TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Synthesis of testosterone 01:38 - Performance enhancers before testosterone? 03:28 - Brown-Séquard Elixir and other drugs 04:26 - First isolation of androsterone and testosterone 05:31 - Was the Bronze Era natty? 05:56 - When did testosterone hit the market? 09:17 - But the Germans used steroids in WW2, right? 09:39 - The Male Hormone book by Paul De Kruis 11:35 - Testosterone becomes available 12:02 - Was the Silver Era natty? 12:44 - 1954 World Weightlifting Championship 13:50 - Dr. John Ziegler's experiments on York Barbell crew 14:13 - Ziegler and CIBA's development of Dianabol 15:43 - Was the Golden Era natty? 16:34 - Summary and conclusion Old School Bodybuilding playlist: kzread.info/head/PLK7oVKkif-qXRDEob5MKbaT0KEZRe9niu Support the channel and get early, ad free access to future videos: www.patreon.com/NattyLife Second channel: kzread.info/dron/WiZKkWHKu9iaxzf7E7D3HQ.html

@hariprasad467

Жыл бұрын

Hey for your next video. I gave a damn good idea. Make a video about "Lost secret to a great body" - David Bolton. It clearly illustrates that how eugen sandow build muscles and provides precise explanation about each and every exercise.

@hariprasad467

Жыл бұрын

Trust me. You are gonna love it.

@gael.7593

Жыл бұрын

@@hariprasad467 It also has a section that goes through the history of the light dumbbell system, all the way to *Hyppolyte Triat* and the ancient greeks. That alone makes it worth reading IMHO.

@waynestone6462

Жыл бұрын

Man on your last video all kinds of people who obviously don't know any better said all the natural bodybuilders we're on anabolic compounds. This video crushed them probably small and pissed off . I subscribe too your channel and I like it .

@ralphwarom2514

Жыл бұрын

All things considered, speed is the biggest reason. They speed up visual results. I'm natty. But only because I don't want to die and looking good isn't my job.

All the body builders before 1950's actually seemed to glow with health! Their faces also seem more "relaxed". Nobody looked like a freak, and they were examples of what a human body can be capable of. Modern body builders just look scary, and it is difficult to view them, for me, without feeling some remorse for how they may suffer in their later years.

@schecter5035

Жыл бұрын

Yep the really old bodybuilders had the physique of like roman, greek statues. Such a beautiful physique

@hooktraining3966

Жыл бұрын

@@schecter5035 agreed. That era is over sadly

@JackClayton123

Жыл бұрын

I agree that all of those Bronze Age bodybuilders have physics that are a healthy goal. The only golden age bodybuilder whose physic I like is Frank Zane’s.

@stedros

Жыл бұрын

Yep, because they were natural and their diets were prob a lot better also (no fast food etc). I bet they all walked more than we do now also.

@JackClayton123

Жыл бұрын

@@stedros Makes you wonder what they would have achieved with modern exercise equipment and dietary supplements.

As a retired FDA investigator I am impressed by your through review of the history sterile marketing and abuse. Your history also touched on the related and much broader topic of health fraud. Everyone should be aware that there is an entire industry out there promoting ineffective and dangerous products simply to steal your money. Don't be duped! Be skeptical!

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Thank you for your support bro :)

@jd9119

Жыл бұрын

LOL it's funny how a KZread channel about bodybuilding has "retired FDA investigators" in it. But I suppose anybody could be anything on the internet. I'm a current emperor ninja, BTW.

@TheDJLionman

Жыл бұрын

FDA=dogshit

@lycanlube7484

Жыл бұрын

@@billfromnowhere7687 phone could of autocorrected? Such a trivial reason to disregard a statement

@Pulsonar

Жыл бұрын

@@billfromnowhere7687 It’s most likely a typo, or as someone already mentioned it could be a primitive autocorrect that made the wrong word assumption. So need to be so cynical.

The first time I noticed the effect of change in size of body builders was around 1963. I began working with weights at age 14 and got my training info from Bob Hoffman's magazine "Strength and Health." I remember a man named Bill Pearl, a Mr. America who looked good as it was. Suddenly he wasn't seen in the magazine for a short while when suddenly he returned HUGE. Big beyond anything I had ever seen. He was selling a new workout course. Now I wonder what the course entailed. I couldn't afford but I knew later he was using steroids. I appreciate the research you did. I'm 77 and still lift iron and still love it.

@NattyLifeYT

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing. How interesting that you got to see it happen in real time. Funny that nothing has really changed since then, "influencers" using steroid fuelled physiques to sell courses and supplements.

@gfreeman9843

5 ай бұрын

Yes. He wrote Keys to the inner universe, that was my bodybuilding bible for a long time.He had a short chapter on steroids.. basically saying Don't. So l didn't 😂😂

@themalaailaanaa1347

3 ай бұрын

Should have​@@gfreeman9843

@anshhindu2045

2 ай бұрын

Lift and live man ❤❤

@Gasta1983

Ай бұрын

I sincerely hope you live to have your 100th anniversary with your facilities in tact. Respect!

Bro just have to learn 200 years drugs and medicine history to make 18 min video, huge respect.(imagine amount of work and research behind the scenes)

The amount of research that was done in this video deserves respect alone. This was amazing.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks bro!

@RonaldRegain

Жыл бұрын

Yeah really grade A video

@Inv1s1bleMan

9 ай бұрын

I totally agree. Very good work. Pro journalism level

@Richard-ot5ss

5 ай бұрын

wow dude, you post MPMD's steroid family tree picture, but you show a picture of Greg as a snake oil salesman? For what, turkesterone? show a picture of Derek you coward@@NattyLifeYT he started selling it because of Derek, Derek sold it first. I do mostly disagree with him selling it or pushing it, but Greg has a flawless channel aside from that I've learned to live with it. I just the hypocrisy, people are so simple minded. Greg is way smarter than Derek.

@NotSoLiberal

4 ай бұрын

I'm surprised though this information isn't already in a book somewhere

those 1930s physiques are honestly my dream physique because they look like the peak of human development imo, any bigger and its just rediculous

@boostav

Жыл бұрын

The ones up to the early-mid 1950's are perfectly natural, anyone who says that isn't achievable naturally just has shitty genetics.

@JP-xd6fm

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!, I wonder though if for example Brad Pitt used something to get the physique he has in the fight club. But those bodies of the 30's are better looking than the ones today.

@phil_5430

Жыл бұрын

Its funny how todays gym bros could easily compete with these guys

@bodycounter9386

11 ай бұрын

Funnily enough the physique of a 1930s bodybuilder is only considered above average by many young people today. They actually think that bodies like Chris Hemsworth in Thor or Chris Evans in Captain America are realistic goals for men.

@British_Dragon-Simulations

11 ай бұрын

@@bodycounter9386 They are realistic physiques if you use anabolic hormones. It just might take approximately two years. Depending on how you react to the hormones.

Going through old newspapers is a pain in the butt even if they are digitized. This is very well done. Respect.

I think you forgot to include the natty king, Mike O'Hearn, this is what peak genetics, hard work, dedication and a dozen of duck eggs a day does to you, nobody trens harder, eats clener, anavar gives up, dbolish their goals, test their limits like Mike O'Hearn. Disappointed in this channel, can't even recognize the true natty greats.

@ryantimony6692

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

He truly is a shining example to all us naturals 😂

@hogansheroes2793

Жыл бұрын

Mike O'Hearn is about as natural as whole wheat milk.

@garethllewellyn215

Жыл бұрын

Don't know how many times I've said this but Mike o hearn is natty He naturally produces tren in his ovaries and he actually lays those duck eggs 🥚

@Klausisyoutube

Жыл бұрын

This is slapstick and not mentioned to be taken seriously. 😂

That first dude is pure strain “what Japanese video game developers think about Americans in the 1980s for a boss design”

@InvisibleHotdog

Жыл бұрын

I think that's Kai Greene

@gfanikf

Жыл бұрын

@@InvisibleHotdogYep I recognized him right away from the pony tail. The rest of the get up is pure I’m about to fight Mayor Mike Hagger

@uditdhiman3088

Жыл бұрын

@@gfanikf Final Fight reference, love that game.

@juane.6827

Жыл бұрын

reminds of that one American from Baki

@DarkMuj

Жыл бұрын

@@juane.6827 that guy is based on Sergio Olivia

This video is AMAZING. So well researched, so well told and just short enough to cover the material and arguements BEAUTIFULLY. Well done sir!

In 1983 in Dubuque Iowa, Bruce Randall (1959 Mr Universe Pro Overall) told me that he was the last Mr. Universe to achieve that title without the use of steroids. I absolutely believed him!

@atlet_proshlogo

4 күн бұрын

Тогда уже был дианабол и тестостерон. Не верю ему. Но генетика у него хорошая была

Calling cocaine and meth "the forbidden pre-workout" is hilarious

@stevejamieson8468

Жыл бұрын

Cocaine certainly helped give us some of the greatest promos in pro wrestling history.

@brocklanders3616

Жыл бұрын

Macho man especially. I remember when Hogan was coked out of his mind cutting a promo, that was accidently gay. "Come meet me in the ring, and with one touch brotha I will have you on your knees unable to finish what you started"

@citizenoftheninthdivision

Жыл бұрын

​@@brocklanders3616"I am the cream" 😂

@humanbean3

Жыл бұрын

i knew a guy that did meth and worked out all day. dude was huge. looked like a non natty

@stevejamieson8468

Жыл бұрын

@@humanbean3 Superstar Billy Graham talked about using meth as a pre-workout. It was rumored that the Mentzer brothers and other bodybuilders did the same

I enjoyed the research you put into this with the newspaper clippings and the book reference. As an older natural lifter, I hear skepticism all the time about what can be accomplished naturally. The greatest thing the 1940s bodybuilders gave us is an aesthetic to work towards that I use to model my physique, not striving for size but symmetry.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your support bro!

@ryanjacobson2508

Жыл бұрын

Something also that modern people don't realize is that people were much less sedentary and had naturally higher testosterone levels in the earlier 20th century.

@kenwoods9247

Жыл бұрын

Good stuff! Keep it coming!

@vids595

Жыл бұрын

Scrawny skinny people have symmetry. Lifting is for size and strength increases.

@joseviu969

Жыл бұрын

simetry is mostly genetic unless u had an injury or somthin

Minor correction: Cows are female bovine, Bulls are male bovine. Actually other female animals such as deer, buffalos and similar animals refer to the female of the species as cows.

@kryska367

3 ай бұрын

Takže koza je kráva...🤕. V českém jazyce je jelení samice laň a ne kráva pokud jde o buvola, řekne se buvolí kráva. Náš jazyk je vyspělý a vy jste barbaři.

@AaronDennis1111

Ай бұрын

So what's a heifer

@LiamE69

17 күн бұрын

Buffalo are bovines along with cattle, yaks and gaur and others. In deer the males and females are called bucks and does. A rather famous song has a line about female deer...

@lefthookouchmcarm4520

8 күн бұрын

Humans do it too 😂

I had two of my brothers undergo major surgery to reduce their 'breasts' because of steroid abuse (gynecomastia). They were both teens when they used the drugs. Neither had kids later on.

@PowerRedBullTypology

11 ай бұрын

Why did they not have kids? cause they were infertile or any other reason?

@Deathtank75

11 ай бұрын

@@PowerRedBullTypology probably that, didnt you head durgs reduced their genitals?

@Zglemb79

11 ай бұрын

@@PowerRedBullTypology They were unable to breastfeed :)

@ralfybaby

11 ай бұрын

That's not "major surgery" it's a minor cosmetic procedure

@John.Flower.Productions

11 ай бұрын

BITCH-TITS

Just wanted to mention that that "juice" was in use since the 1930's. Testosterone Propionate was in use in 1937 under the brand name "Perandren" (Ciba). During the years 1939-1945 it made up a whopping 20-28% of Ciba's total sales. Methyltestosterone was in use as early as 1941 under the brand names "Metandren" (Ciba), "Oreton-M" (Schering), and "Neo-Hombreol" (Organon). Testosterone Cypionate was in use in 1951 under the brand name "Depo-testosterone" (Upjohn). b

@atlet_proshlogo

4 күн бұрын

Вот это ближе к правде. Спасибо. Следовательно Ривз использовал тестостерон пропионат где то по 125мг раз в 4 дня.

You are correct in saying that early testosterone pre 50's was useless for developing champion bodybuilders, irritated prostrates, shrunk testes, and required huge dosages. By the sixties EVERYBODY competing on a national level was on. I competed back then and was very familiar with that scene. Dianabol was ridiculously easy to get legally. Great video. Thank you.

@eliascommentonly4652

Жыл бұрын

🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷1982✝️🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷athens 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 Cant people just admire marathon runners bodytypes ?????? Why people want to die young? I want to breathe better .so i choose cardio 🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 People dont want to exlerience trying to breathe .... Trust me......its suffering Cardio is better But with less fame Fortune and titles I like kenyans marathoners bodytypes 🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

@Richard-vm8rh

Жыл бұрын

Hugo Labra with that Mustache and Buzz Cut was one of my favorites and as a 15 year old who got hooked on Body Building at 13.Steve Reeves and the Hercules Movies got me hooked. I tried everything Protein from the Sea smelled like old fish! Protein. both by Hoffman Weight Gainer no 7 but it was consistent Training my Mom's German Cooking that enabled me to clean and Jerk 220 lbs at 16 100 Kilos! Joined the Armed Forces at 18 won Army Air Force combined Weight Lifting Team Western Championship as a 210 lb "Heavy Weight" Never heard of Steroids believed the Magazines! Was sent to Vietnam at 19! I will be 75 in August lift and teach MMA in Costa Rica still strong and healthy with out the Drugs

@baraka629

Жыл бұрын

It still is perfectly legal in most countries around the world except the USA, because the muricans had an entire mass hysteria about steroids back in the 80s, fueled by hyperbolic and at times straight up invented stories in mass media. Mass hysteria events which muricans seem to go through every couple of years - the satanic panic, the D&D scare, the violent video game debacle, Marylin Manson and spree shooters, the Russia hysteria, the vaccine scares etc. Genuinely happy that we don't go through (at least most) of that nonsense here in Europe.

@TheSuperappelflap

Жыл бұрын

@@baraka629 what are you talking about lol. almost every country in europe has banned the sale of steroids without a prescription, and the doctors are very strict about prescribing it. do you live in romania or something

@KasumiRINA

Жыл бұрын

​@@baraka629"the russia HYSTERIA" you mean like when they said that russia is going to invade Ukraine full scale and openly one and a half years ago? Oh, no worry, they're totally not bombing us every fucking night. Just "hysteria"...

Funny story. Years ago I spoke to a guy - Alan Peel - who worked at York in the 50-60s. He told me that at the time they introduced Dianabol, they also started doing "isometric" exercises. Here's the funny part; The lifters thought it was the isometrics that were making the difference in their lifts, and energy levels. You see, they were used to "performance enhancement" being like pep/speed pills, so when they took the D-bol, and didn't feel anything after 30 minutes, they all just said "this stuff is bunk". He told me that several lifters, who previously has dragged their feet coming to the gym and were tired & broken down, would suddenly be almost jumping through the doors saying; "Hey fellas! Man, I tell ya, those isometrics have got me feeling like I'm 19 yrs old again! And let me tell ya, my wife's a pretty big fan of those isometrics, if you catch my drift".

@robbertag808

Жыл бұрын

@Starkey Morgan Not maybe... Do some research.

@davidevans1611

Жыл бұрын

@Starkey Morgan Daily use of niacin in small amounts (300mg) does help lower LDL cholesterol and is recommended by MD's. I doubt if it reduces any bodyfat.

@adam-lt8iy

Жыл бұрын

Great story. But sad at the same time because this is happening to this day where we can no longer tell what actually works or doesn't work as almost everyone is enhanced.

@harveypratt995

Жыл бұрын

@Starkey Morgan I seriously believe Evander Holyfield juiced and didn’t even know. I doubt his handlers and doctors ever even told him. He’s a good man but, the kind of guy that would tell you he didn’t use because he really didn’t know.

@harveypratt995

Жыл бұрын

I remember in the 70s I was about 10 years old. Watching a football game. West coast. Either Chargers or Rams. The commentators were talking about how the team had more injuries than ever before and it was early in the season. They went on to discuss how the team had started a new style of strength and conditioning. They were wondering if the injuries were because they were doing calisthenics. The talk of it always stayed with me. Years later I learned more and always wondered if the team was experimenting with different types of juice that was really causing the problems. I also learned that some roids will make you more injury prone. The other thing about the early years of usage. I doubt most that were juiced even knew. If any of them did I don’t believe they had any true understanding or any at all.

An informative video! I appreciate all the efforts you put in here! Keep it up 😎👏

this video is so thorough and I appreciate the effort and research put into this. Thank you, this is very informative.

I started taking Dianabol in the late 1950s. I got it from a guy who owned the gym where I worked out, as a young, dumb kid of 17 or so. When my mother found out, she had a fit, and that woke me up to the potential dangers, thank God. I stopped taking it.

The guy who wrote The Male Hormone, Paul de Kruif, also wrote one of my favorite books of all time, The Microbe Hunters, telling the story of the first microbiologists, and how germ theory, vaccines and early treatments were developed. He does a great job of showing the scientists as flawed heroes, and their efforts as rough and tentative, but tenacious and methodical. It's got a few parts that have not aged well, but for the most part I highly recommend it for history buffs and fans of scientists in general.

@jangobango2847

Жыл бұрын

Terrain Theory >

@kristianlavigne8270

Жыл бұрын

Germ Theory is bogus

@NLghost010

Жыл бұрын

too bad he butchers paul's last name in the video

@eliascommentonly4652

Жыл бұрын

🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷1982✝️🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷athens 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 Cant people just admire marathon runners bodytypes ?????? Why people want to die young? I want to breathe better .so i choose cardio 🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 People dont want to exlerience trying to breathe .... Trust me......its suffering Cardio is better But with less fame Fortune and titles I like kenyans marathoners bodytypes 🇪🇺🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

@seronymus

Жыл бұрын

​@@jangobango2847there's no way you're this retarded. When you see viruses in a microscope what do you see?

Well done on a super well researched video. Wow. You put in a lot of effort here.

Sucks how physiques from the bronze era are pretty much considered mid by the fitness industry and social media in general

@buckplug2423

8 күн бұрын

If someone's an idiot, yeah.

"I need 100 kg of bull testicles please" - "For what?" - "SCIENCE"

@conradspy3611

Ай бұрын

What about goat testicles aren't they just as effective

All your videos have very high quality information and very entertaining! Thank you!

Steve Reeves was natural. His bodybuilding career peaked in 1950 and he was always outspoken against drug use in the sport. Plus there was no money in it when he competed. He just had some crazy genetics.

@mikrobi_3419

6 ай бұрын

Reeves is very suspicious for me.

@squamish4244

6 ай бұрын

@@mikrobi_3419 He's borderline, for sure. Those genetic do exist, however. And then the question becomes, where did he get the juice? This was so early on.

@conradspy3611

Ай бұрын

One of the people to first use the juice was Adolf Hitler back in the 1930s to be able to satisfy his young wife. And in the 1940s various people started using them By the 1950s bodybuilders started using them so it's not hard to beleive that Reeves was on them.

@elvisincali

Ай бұрын

YUP!!! I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!! I always tell my young nephew, a good gauge of natural vs steroid use is... Look at Steve Reeves!!! Anyone who is bigger... and or much more ripped... is juicing!!! And sure, there can be guys taller, and if they're only 10 to 15 pounds heavier, and about the same leanness, then sure, he could be natural... But if they're a little taller, but 20, 30, 40 pounds heavier than Steve... the guy is juicing! Period! And I don't count former juicers as natural, if they quit using... their bodies are forever changed by 'roids!

@DruNarayan

Ай бұрын

I don’t find his genetics to be crazy at all. A couple years ago when I was in prison, I bulked to 237 and cut down to 212. My body looked similar to Steve reeves in some photos, although with a bit more fat and slightly worse proportions. I have pretty much the same frame as him, too. A slim 6’1” frame. My brother had very similar results from lifting naturally. In prison I saw many men of all different races get similar physiques to the 1950s bodybuilders. None of them were on steroids. We definitely did illegal drugs sometimes, but just for getting high LOL. I did years with many of these guys too, so I know it wasn’t like they were just maintaining gains they made from steroids that they had when they came in. Many of them started skinny and young. All different heights and races, black, Asian, Hispanic, white, short, tall.

There was also a shift in bodybuilding attitudes... the 1950s bodybuilders were part of "physical culture", as focused on health, vitality, and to some extent the athleticism to perform strength and somewhat acrobatic feats, as just gaining visibly big muscles, and the main goal was aesthetic proportional muscles, as close to the best physiques seen in ancient Greek and Roman sculptures... people like Jack LaLanne continued this into the modern era, but bodybuilders like Steve Reeves were part of that culture, more than the "bigger muscles at all costs" later bodybuilding culture. I've seen peopl claim that Steeve Reeves was given testosterone mixed in with B12 shots (B12 injections were common back then and considered healthy), but there's no evidence and as you point out, early injectable testosterone had limited effect and was more placebo than anything useful.

Wow! I am blown away by the astounding amount of high quality bodybuilding -related information revealed and presented (and very well too, if I might add) ) in this just short 18 min video. Love it, love it. keep 'em coming

A very thorough and informative video, which kept my interest, great job.

Great video. What's missing is a discussion of the secrecy involved. In the early days of steroids they were not illegal, but giving away your secret weapon to your competition would be stupid.

US hammer thrower Hal Connolly later admitted he started using in 1964, but this was before steroids were made illegal in track and field. He also claimed to know that by 1968 all elite level athletes were on the juice, Tommy Smith, Bob Beamon, etc.

@michaelcohen9740

Ай бұрын

It's not just bodybuilding, remember baseballs scandal and Olympic athletes,and Lance Armstrong,they work and you'll always have people trying to get the edge , imagine competing against others who use them and you don't ,it's very hard to do and be competitive,I don't think they should of been made illegal like they are ,you are limited in this country to a few select types

@Pokarface7

4 күн бұрын

@@michaelcohen9740yeah! Why not make SARMs available for competitors? They don’t have secondary effects, so the argument that they’re harmful has been removed

I love the pop up of coach Greg when talking about useless supplements 🤣 nice touch 👌

@averyso6669

Жыл бұрын

Coach Greg at least brings up facts about his supplements and on the more new compounds says there’s not a lot of studies on them so it may work for you it may not. He may not deep dive into supplements in general but he will call bs when he can and rightfully so.

@mtvjackass74

Жыл бұрын

lmao, surprise people actually follow him

@schmidtygt

Жыл бұрын

@@mtvjackass74 he has a lot of good information about lifting and dieting. As well as is very truthful about the harms of PEDs. I don’t take his supplements nor do I pay attention to them though so I can’t speak on that

Outstanding Report, so I subscribed. I am looking forward to more of your content.

Extremely informative, perfectly organized video. Thank you.

It was really nice watching this very well documented research of yours in video format. Great work! Thank you for what you do and keep the good ol' days of bodybuilding alive! I really hope this channel's popularity will explode because you deserve it.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks brother, much appreciated 🙏

That was a great summary of the history of artificial steroids. I knew much of it before but it’s great to have the history condensed and analysed like this to see the ‘before’ and ‘after’ in the bodybuilding world.

Really interesting and well researched! I always wondered about this. It would be interesting to see something as simple as a height/weight ratio list. I'll bet that skews upward quickly starting in 1960?

Great work 👍. A lot of research and time went into this.regards.

Personally, I find it incredibly uplifting to know that those incredible physiques we see pre- 1950s are natural, especially the women, because that gives hope that anyone who works hard and eats well can get just as strong without weird pills. Otherwise it seems a lot of people would have you believe that it's impossible for a woman to get strong without pills. Thank you for making such incredible videos, especially the ones about old school female body builders and athletes. I had no idea these women existed, and it is very eye opening to see the results they were able to achieve naturally. *Edit: to the people saying "oh but not Anyone can" or "but those people had incredible genetics" etc, you guys should stop taking things so incredibly literally and chill out a little :)

@tomashgrey2211

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with your journey ❤

@georgevue8175

Жыл бұрын

Bill Pearl was my favorite & Bill always preached against steroid use.

@alejandroperez5368

Жыл бұрын

Those aren't amazing physiques...

@zachcd390119

Жыл бұрын

​@@alejandroperez5368 not to you, sure. Different perspectives.

@johnyboy3454

Жыл бұрын

its not certain they were natural, he said its a grey area

Congratulations on a well researched video mate!

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated my friend!

very well done, you've found a niche in strength sports that in my opinion has not been fully explored

I'm expressing my thanks to the maker of the video, this reportage is so well done, and is extremely appreciated !🧐

Great video. I commend your hard work in doing solid research and putting these videos together in a way that’s easy to understand. Keep it up dude 👌

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support bro!

I have always found as a natural weight lifter it is all about your diet and rest. The only time I was able to see gains quickly was when I was out of work and I was able to eat and sleep properly which is hard to do when you work every day. Overtraining is a big killer too

@user-yc2sc6jk8g

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.As a natty bodybuilder you can see huge difference if you keep same program and just get a 2 week off work

@darylguberman4242

Жыл бұрын

DARYL GUBERMAN Discusses His Life Up To The Mr.America Bodybuilding Championship. kzread.info/dash/bejne/loWjl7GJaJvSmps.html

@milosstojanovic4623

Жыл бұрын

If anyone put 2 bodybuilders one natural (full program, rest, big meals) and other one with all of that mentioned but plus steroids, difference in gains would be obvious to the one on steroids. Even if we put 2 of them one just eating properly and have enough rest and other one with all that but plus adding additional supplements like protein, vitamins, amino acids etc... The one with supplements will definitely have more gains. There would be obvious difference.

@kittenluvzu

Жыл бұрын

@@milosstojanovic4623 disagree. Neither natty would look noticeably different, except maybe...maybe to a discerning eye. However, the guy on steroids will have as much or more gains after 6 months as the natty who trains hard and eats right for fifteen years. Steroids are THE magic pill.

@TheSuperappelflap

Жыл бұрын

yeah i was unemployed for a year during the pandemic and gained 20 pounds of muscle lol. being able to get enough sleep, and eating only self cooked meals with organic veggies and 0 processed food was 80%, the exercise was 20%, i probably only worked out 15-30 minutes a day on average. then went back to work, now im 20 pounds fatter

Great history lesson im glad i found your channel your informative and i really dont think we can argue your research

Saying that steroids were around in the 30s is like saying the internet was around in the 50s. Neither of them were in a usable form until decades later

My ex training partner Bill is 96 years old and fit as a fiddle. Never missed a workout in his life even when travelling, the first item in luggage would be dumbells. He won the first 1952 and second Mr Perth contest in Western Australia. No roids for us. I held Australia's first Natural Bodybuilding contest in 1968 (founding president ANBB) and have since worked in the Empire State Building NY for Natural Physique and mens exerise magagines, judged the World Natural Bodybuilding WNBF titles in New York. At Boomas Natural Gym would not let the users in my gym, (btw in Manly (Sydney) invented Pump Aerobics 1990 which was exactly copied soon after). This morning just raced my 46yo friend up a hill cycling with my self made 78 tooth chain ring ( my other bike, Cevelo S5 has an 81 tooth chainring). All this pertaining to, if you want to live a fit, healthy, happy, long life, keep away from pharmaceticals. Keep healthy and good luck. Thank you Natty for your research.

@Underhills

10 ай бұрын

I agree on the natural part but TRT can be a positive life changer, not for anabolic purposes but to regain vitality and strength that over time is reduced due to low testosterone levels. I see that as anti aging treatment and it should be embraced. Like most things in life substances and compounds can be of benefit if used properly and it can be misused for the wrong purposes. That goes for many medicines meant to treat astma, low metabolisme, skin burns, muscle and joint illnesses etc.

@KaiSoDaM

9 ай бұрын

My utmost respect sir

@sterlingmoore4798

8 ай бұрын

Impressive. And a good lesson by example. The easy chair will kill you before weight training will. My best regards, sir.

@randy-yx6pi

5 ай бұрын

Thinking about planet earth and all that exists. The past. The future. The parts. Humans create stuff. Everything seems to be a group of parts. Does anything exists with one part. What is it.

great video, man. Nicely put together and well-researched

What an amazingly well made video, learned many things, thanks.

Nice deep dive!!!! subbed.

This was very well done. It’s amazing to see the side by side pics and evolution of steroid use as well. It truly shows how effective they are regardless of their legality and/or the moral and ethical cases for their use as a performance enhancer.

Dianabol was first made in 1955. The physiques started improving shortly after this. Steve Reeves is supposedly Mr Natural but there were a lot of suspicions when he would travel to Europe for a movie and come back 20 pounds heavier and yet leaner.

@usamade5943

Жыл бұрын

Source?

@bearclaw5115

Жыл бұрын

Yes Dbol was first synthesized in 1955. But it wasn't on the market until 1958. Dr. Ziegler may have had access to it earlier than 1958 however.

@ofauvi2089

Жыл бұрын

I have never heard anything about him doing that, where did you learn this?

@MrSocko-vn7fw

Жыл бұрын

@@usamade5943 Trust Me Bro

@Dan-jg7zl

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSocko-vn7fw Wtf would we trust a nobody like yourself?

We don't know for certain the exact year steroids (testosterone) was used for athletic purposes to lessen recovery time and for its energizing properties, but i would estimate the experimenation to have started in the 1940s in the USA. There is medical literature that point to this being the case as well.

@conradspy3611

Ай бұрын

You are pretty much spot on they stated using them in the 1940s. Hitler used the in the 1930s.

@IronWarrior86

Ай бұрын

@@conradspy3611 Yes, additionally i believe there were limited pharmacological experiments done by the Germans in the 1930s-40s involving amongst others the use of methyltestosterone tabletts, possibly to observe any increase in aggression or strength, which together with their documented use of amphetamines, likely later formed the basis for the Nazi "supersoldier" myth.

@IronWarrior86

Ай бұрын

@@conradspy3611 Yes, additionally i believe there were limited pharmacological experiments done by the Germans in the 1930s-40s involving amongst others the use of methyltestosterone tabletts, possibly to observe any increase in aggression or strength, which together with their documented use of amphetamines, likely later formed the basis for the "supersoldier" myth.

@IronWarrior86

Ай бұрын

@@conradspy3611 Yes, additionally i believe there were limited pharmacological experiments done in the 1930s-40s involving amongst others the use of methyltestosterone tabletts, possibly to observe any increase in aggression or strength, which together with their documented use of amphetamines, likely later formed the basis for the "supersoldier" myth.

@IronWarrior86

Ай бұрын

@@conradspy3611 Yes, additionally i believe there were limited pharmacological experiments done in 1930s-40s Germany involving amongst others the use of methyltestosterone tabletts, possibly to observe any performance enhancing effects, which together with their documented use of amphetamines, likely later formed the basis for the "supersoldier" myth.

Lol - That intro clip had me rolling. The mask, faux road warrior ensemble, and the bubble gut. It was just too much. xD

Some damn fine research! Super informative, thanks! (From a trained historian turned trainer/bodybuilder)

@Super_Stan

5 ай бұрын

thanks for your inpu mullti super talented woman

I like your bronse and silverage videos alot, but I would like more detailed training videos as well. How much volume, rpe/rir, types of progression etc..

@akashi5763

Жыл бұрын

Natural hypertrophy, bald omni-man and Geoffrey verity schoffield all have stuff relating to that.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

I might be doing some of that on my second channel. But in general I think there are plenty other people making those kinds of videos and I haven't even been lifting that long (under 2 years), so to be honest I would only feel comfortable giving very basic/beginner advice. You can check out some of my older videos in my natty talk playlist

@deltalima6703

Жыл бұрын

@Natty Life. I did not realize you were so new to weight training/ bodybuilding.

"Forbidden Preworkout" 🤣🤣 had my rolling I'm stealing that for whenever the topic comes up lol

As a teenager in the early 1960s I trained at local clubs in London including the famous Wag Bennett gym in Forest Gate, where Mr Britain/Universe John Hewlett trained (and later on Arnold Schwarzenegger) During that period 1961-62 I never heard anything about steroids and did not know what they were and neither did my friends. Of course it did did not mean they were not around and being used but I would guess not that much, unless of course it was kept quiet as a secret weapon by some bodybuilders to enhance their chances of winning competitions. Interestingly I was prescribed a weeks course of little pink pills by my doctor to help me get over a sports back injury in 1960 when I was 14. I now believe they were Dianabol pills and boy did they work!

@michaelcohen9740

Ай бұрын

Testosterone and it's derivatives work very well especially if you train hard and eat right ,that's why they continue to be used by so many including amateur lifters and other athletes plus for men who suffer from low testosterone,it's a great way to restore your sex drive and masculinity if used properly and monitored

Such a needed video to document this historic timeline. Excellent work!

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

Great video. Wonderfully researched. Really lays the foundation for understanding the rise of testosterone in health and body building. A double edged sword.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated :)

Great content and production!

What a great video with well research data. Thank you!

As always, incredibly well researched, presented and with a lot of information a bodybuilding nerd like me did not yet knew. Congratulations on the good work!

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support bro!

This is such a fantastic video! Well done and really important information here. I wish it was public knowledge to every kid who wants to get into lifting

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks :)

Great video! Very informative 👏👏

Excellent summary. Thank you for posting.

Excellent documentary. It would be informative to know the bodybuilders affected by the negative side effects and were struck down in their prime because of steroid use over this same time period.

@nealbeard1

Жыл бұрын

That is a long list

@deltalima6703

Жыл бұрын

Would need a definition of what to blame on what and it would be very arbitrary and non scientific.

@Steve-hh9gs4yo2i

Жыл бұрын

@@deltalima6703 I think it could be scientific, or perhaps reasonably inferred from the amounts that were taken, and the final cause of death. Even without an autopsy.

@berlinetta____2680

Жыл бұрын

All of them

@baraka629

Жыл бұрын

Well considering we know from surveys in colleges in Canada that at least some 30 000-odd guys are on steroids, yet hormone-related ER admissions are barely a blip on the radar in hospital statistics (and even those that happen are usually cortico-steroid related), so just from empirical evidence we can surmise there is not really that much side effects. Which also matches with the findings of studies like e.g. _The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men_ (Bhasin et. al.)

Amazing video, finally someone to clear the rumors about people in the silver era using steroids! Love this channel.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support brother!

what a research !! great work man

Fantastic work, bruh- CONGRATZ!

Mad respect from a lawyer for all that background research and finding the FDA case! 8:25

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated bro!

@gfanikf

Жыл бұрын

@@NattyLifeYT absolutely archives set reps are some of the hardest!

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Trudat 🤣

I'm glad you mentioned John Grimek and York because his opinion would have had massive sway in the bodybuilding community. What did Grimek think of it? He thought it was all bunk ad for old people

Reg Park's one year improvement from Mr Yorkshire to Mr Britain when he moved down to London was pretty suspect.

I share the same opinion as the video. It's pretty obvious imo that it started in late 50s and it was very widely used in the 60s. Steve Reeves, Reg Park, etc are top natties. They were big, but healthy, with healthy body fat percentages. Soon after that, things started to get freaky.

@bambusizdrowie3979

Жыл бұрын

And more or less from the mid-nineteenth century, until the era of steroids, drugs such as amphetamines, cocain, meth etc. were in common use.

@gfanikf

Жыл бұрын

Let’s not also forget that Steve Reeves was a (no pun indented) very big on being a proponent of natural bodybuilding competitions very late in his life.

@mark4lev

Жыл бұрын

Steve reeves and reg park both used. Reeves it was later on in his career. This is old news.

@amazin7006

Жыл бұрын

​@@mark4lev "this is old news" aka "I read it on a forum 10 years ago so it must be true". Nobody knows if Reeves ever used later. What we do know is that he never really lost size, which means IF he did use then it really didn't do shit so its a worthless thing to argue about lmao. He was natty for sure before 1960.

@mark4lev

Жыл бұрын

@@amazin7006 I’ve sen the pics of him, they were around for a while. He was bigger and puffier. Some of us have been debating this grimek- reeves- steroid thing for YEARS. Grimek used later in his career but it’s not easy to see any changes in his physiology.

When I first got into bodybuilding back in the late 70s, early 80s, the story I heard was that body building got into steroids via the results of medical use of steroids to aid survivors of concentration and POW camps from WW2. There were very large numbers of people injured in various ways by WW2 available to experiment on with drugs. This research quickly made it into Hollywood (where drugs and surgery were heavily in use to enhance the stars) and the body building scene associated with Hollywood. I would guess that by the mid-50s professional body builders would have been well aware of testosterone. When Dianabol came along it really took hold because it was so very effective. Steroids are used a lot in horse racing so it's worth looking there too since there's loads of money in horse racing and possibly even fewer ethical restraints. Back in the eighties it was veterinary steroids from India re-labelled as Dbol that were prevalent so far as I could tell.

Always nice to see people speak so passionate without any knowledge

this is a great vid. very interesting man

This video brought back memories of my younger years, when I was really into working out and trying to get as big and strong as possible(without resorting to any performance enhancing drugs). I had been working out for close to 10 years at the time. I recall a conversation I had with a woman close to my age at the time(who did not look like she worked out with weights at all) who implied I needed to work harder in the gym or be less lazy because if I was really working hard in the gym and not lazy, I would be giving Arnold or Lou Ferrigno a run for their money. She seemed clueless to the fact that huge guys like them were on steroids. I made her aware that I did not take steroids because I did not want to take big risks with my health by using them and she seemed to think because I implied that Arnold and Lou were on steroids, I was defaming them in a despicable way and she became even more negative towards me. And this was not the last time I would run into women like this who had similar views. I can't help wonder if other guys who were natural lifters ran into women like this, who thought they lacked motivation or were lazy because they did not have Mr. Olympia level physiques?

@christians7706

Жыл бұрын

Most people have no clue about many things, it's just how most of us live their life.

@leswhynin913

Жыл бұрын

No limit to ignorance

@SofaKingShit

Жыл бұрын

If you had been lifting weights for ten years you could have probably crushed her like an insect.

@thezu9250

Жыл бұрын

Why are you singling out women? Most people didn’t know about this type of stuff. A lot of guys would lie about their steroid used in the past so many young men thought that hard work is how they got there. These days they’re more open or exposed with social media but many STILL deny it. I think the general public is better aware now so a lot of women know that it’s steroid use now. Besides, even in the past, nearly all women did not chase after men with that physique to begin with. Most of them preferred men with more realistic definition so why would they know? Literally none of them wanted men with bodybuilder physiques anyways. A lot of women were not even lifting weights anyway. Most didn’t want to gain visible muscle but now more women are open. So obviously they have a better understanding of how that stuff works.

@TheSuperappelflap

Жыл бұрын

@@thezu9250 this just my experience, a lot of women see jacked guys in marvel movies or clubs and think thats normal and achievable if you just work out, whereas any dude with half a brain knows chris hemsworth and those dudes prowling around at the club are juiced to the gills. tldr women gullible

I am not a fan of steroids in the slightest, but if you’re gonna use them for looks the way they did it in the 70s and 80s was far more human looking and aesthetics than whatever happened these past 30 years since the 90s.

@jd9119

Жыл бұрын

The physiques in the mid-90's were the best in bodybuilding. They had started using HGH by then, but it wasn't as crazy as it is now. Back then, it was extremely expensive to get ahold of and most of the guys selling it at the gym were selling fakes.

@justchilling704

Жыл бұрын

@@jd9119 Any examples you have in mind bc when I think of the 90s I think of Ronnie Coleman before he hopped on gear even though he had a great top tier physique prior.

@sooparticular

Жыл бұрын

@@jd9119 best in steroid bodybuilding yes....The 90s were great

@jd9119

Жыл бұрын

@@sooparticular Don't pull that crap. You had the best group of athletes ever in that period. And Dorian Yates was the top.

@jd9119

Жыл бұрын

@@justchilling704 I'm a huge fan of Dorian Yates. Flex was great, Nasser, Shawn Ray, Lee Haney.

Excellent vid - great research.

Great video, very informative

One of your best vids ever..and that's saying something..bravo👌

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Thank you brother!

Great video, well researched. One of my questions has always been, when did horse trainers begin to give PEDs to horses? It would be interesting to know if there was any cross over to the Iron Game.

@bigfletch8

Жыл бұрын

Paul Jordan was heavyweight p.l.world champ. He trained at one of my gyms in West Aus.. Later became a horse trainer, who became surrounded in " controversy "

Really interesting, great insight. Thank you for sharing.

Well argumented channel holder. Great work.

Started being widely used in the 60's. A small number of guys in the late 50's may have used.

I loved purchasing books on this subject. I kept trying to find out how to get a body like that, but none of the courses I studied said anything. They mentioned a few things about the medicines. I still completed my 2 courses. I even have a diploma from college on fitness, nutrition, and health science. It's so sad many are dying. The bodies look so beautiful. You can accomplish a smaller version without the medicines.😊

I ran distance races in track when I was in junior high school in the 70's and I knew this boy who had an older brother who lifted weights all the time, and the boy told me that his brother was taking something called Dianabol. I didn't think much of it, girls didn't lift weights back then, esp distance runners, but I did here about that steroid way back in the 70's.

Thanks for this amazing video. I learned a lot!

It would be amazing if you did a part 2 of this video, titled: When did movie stars start using steroids?

@sooparticular

Жыл бұрын

the 70s. Facts

I'm impressed by how thoroughly you researched this topic. The magazine articles and information that you found was very helpful. As sad as it was to know that the Dr who developed steroids in the U.S. died early at least he showed remorse. They clearly didn't see how awful steroids would be and the toll it would take on the human body at the beginning.

@NattyLifeYT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support :)

@EmorettaRobinson

Жыл бұрын

@@NattyLifeYT you're welcome.

Excellent video!

Very good and reliable information decided to prescribe.

Interesting video, i am 67 but in my early 20's i was going to a SERIOUS gym and the owner used to talk about bulls testicles, they pamphlets on the desk for things like animal testicles, liver, etc. all oral, some people were taking whatever as when you saw them in 6 months they shrunk, i went there once and there was a line waiting for their shots, the owner offered to put me on a 'program' but i stayed natural, i liked to have amazing cardio so i pumped my upper body and did lots of running. A few guys there could bench 500, GENETICS is primary though regardless of drugs those guys are gifted!!!!!!!

I was interested in the old studies on how to help old men with depression and lethargy with testosterone. I am not old yet, but I found out I was on the low side of normal and my doctor said with some of the symptoms I had like being so tired all the time and having trouble remembering things I should try taking a supplement of that, and some caffeine because I do not drink coffee and am in good health. I have a very low dosing just been on a short time I have suddenly lost fat around the belly, had energy like i have not in years, become happy and creative again, and feel better than when I was 19. I am utterly shocked that something like that, such a small amount too, would make such a vast difference for someone’s well being. I bet those elderly men who had been in nursing homes or were about to be forced to retire were VERY grateful to that study! Steroids should not be used and abused. Testosterone however is not a demonic thing.

@nikobitan7294

11 ай бұрын

No-one is saying testosterone itself is bad. It's even frequently used to help post-menopausal women (though, in line with the medical treatment of women in general, studies on its side effects are abysmal, leading to no FDA-approved therapies). The real problem is the "more=better" attitude, leading to lots of men destroying their bodies and mental stability with excess testosterone, and also messing up their own natural testosterone production in the process.

@edd943

11 ай бұрын

Yep I agree. I am a working out for more then 15years never been on any gear. That being said, I plan to be on very low testosterone program when I turn 50. Men as get older our testosterone lvl drops and this is is very vital for us. Was trying to convince my 74+ year dad to start taking some very low dosage but he is not interested. He is still working and very active, I believe trt will keep it that way for longer.

@davidthedeaf

11 ай бұрын

@@nikobitan7294 As a kid I figured if a little of anything tasted good a LOT was far better! I just think that is what happens for some young men with working out who start using supplements of all sorts. Sad.

@davidthedeaf

11 ай бұрын

@@edd943 it is up to him and his doctor, he may not need any. My late grandfather RIP didn’t need any. Died in a freak car accident working under a Jeep sadly age 74. He had still good arm muscles too due to he was a farm owner. He was why when I was a toddler I wanted biceps, not monster ones just ones like 4 inches because he got them tossing bales of hay. Never used anything but hay tossing, not even a gym. And my gramma said he had no issues in bed either at his age so nope no need for testosterone. :P

An excellent overview of the history of anabolic hormones in the form of steroids. As a "natural for life" former competitive bodybuilder, I trained in a "hardcore" gym alongside those on the "juice". I saw a big change when HGH and thyroid hormone came into usage. What you failed to mention was the improvement in nutrition and training which also caused an improvement in physique. BTW, there is a difference in training for strength vs training for physique. Muscle type( fast twitch, slow twitch and intermediate twitch) also affects the result on muscle growth/size. The wrong muscle type, wrong training and non-optimized nutrition also affect the results of training regardless of anabolic drug use or not. Then there are other ergogenics such as caffeine which can affect the intensity and duration of a workout. One can enhance through proper training and nutrition the secretion of testosterone and growth hormone. Growth hormone production is more easily manipulated via nutrition than testosterone. My Master's thesis in human nutrition( "The effect of canned tuna as a nutritional supplement on the physique enhancement of individuals engaged in intense weight training) looked into the interaction of nutrition, hormones ,training and muscle type.

@cassius573

10 ай бұрын

Quite an interesting thesis. I will definitely check it out. What where your findings towards the impact of quality sleep on GH and testosterone levels, all other things being equal?

@leftylucy2263

9 ай бұрын

In the 50s food was more nutritious. So pre steroids had an advantage. That's why they look healthy and jacked

This is a very accurate and truthful documentary in my opinion. It's terrific. Thank you for sharing.

The quality and thoroughness is impressive, thanks so much for making these. The problem indeed is we don't historically know when the first PEDs were used. What I believe to be most-likely true is that methyltest made it's way into gyms in the 1940's and was a gym secret. Something that has really stood out to me in the histories of both body builders and strength athletes is a recurring story; a naturally strong guy from some isolated state shows exceptional promise in strength sport and realizes he has reached his limit in progression so moves out to a famous gym on the East or West coast, only to have immediate improvements in strength and size. The biographies always state it was the competitive environment, modern equipment, and education on training/diet/sleep, though the immediate results could also be explained by PEDs/Methyltest. To be fair, I don't remember the dates of most of these stories, and were probably in the 1950s. What stands out to me in some of these old natty pictures is how everybody seems to have the same puffy muscle-belly shape, which may be consistent with methyltest water retention. Who knows, again I don't know the dates of the photos but it's always odd to see 10 guys at the same gym who all have puffy upper-pecs and full delts. Like your video is about, it all comes down to what year it was, as it's pretty obvious that PEDs made their ways into the major gyms, and that date is probably earlier than we think. I'm rambling, this channel is terrific. Thank you!

@signs80

Жыл бұрын

Part of the "puffiness" is that these guys weren't very low bodyfat, they'd be sitting at 10-12% at their most conditioned so their body wasn't dried the fuck out with 0 water and no glycogen like today's natties that try to mimic roiders. If Ziegler at York Barbell, what was essentially the mecca of the strongest lifters in the US at the time didn't think to use test much less methyltestosterone before 1954, I think it's unlikely any more than a handful of lifters in the entire country would be using it at that time.

@eliascommentonly4652

Жыл бұрын

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@TheSuperappelflap

Жыл бұрын

having a bit of a round belly and a barrel chested shape is actually pretty normal when you have decent core strength. where are your organs supposed to go otherwise? your abs and all the other muscles around that area grow outward, not inward. to have a flat stomach as a dude you either need to deliberately undertrain on core strength compared to everything else or suck in your stomach and flex as hard as you can before taking selfies in the gym mirror. even the roided out dudes in modern bodybuilding have big bulging stomachs with very defined abs. 2 years ago i had such low body fat % it literally hurt to walk and i still didnt have a flat belly, thats just not how most men are put together. we arent built to look like aesthetically pleasing triangles with tiny waists and flat stomachs, leave that to women. we are built like bricks, to carry heavy things around.