When did baseball become baseball?

This video provides of overview of baseball’s origins in New York and the game's spread across the United States during the American Civil War.

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  • @RetroBaseball
    @RetroBaseball2 жыл бұрын

    This video was very good. I research 1800s baseball for a living, and there were some things that I didn’t even know in this, keep up the great work.

  • @calebwhitetheawoken

    @calebwhitetheawoken

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh hey retro baseball I love your videos definitely underated

  • @joeo4496

    @joeo4496

    2 жыл бұрын

    This a John Thorn burner account? Lol

  • @412StepUp

    @412StepUp

    Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe someone can make a living researching 1800s Baseball. Pretty cool job.

  • @jasonsmith2439

    @jasonsmith2439

    6 ай бұрын

    How do you make a living researching baseball? Sounds like a good job.

  • @GeraldM_inNC
    @GeraldM_inNC2 жыл бұрын

    Some years ago I was using the database "America's history newspapers", and decided to take a break from my project to see the earliest reference to baseball that I could find. I don't have the reference now, but I recall that it was in an 1820s newspaper, and it reported on a new fad in New York City called baseball. It was readily recognizable as being our game, and not just some very distant ancestor. I have never seen this newspaper article reported in any review of the history of baseball.

  • @ddstinger8480

    @ddstinger8480

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool.

  • @farpointgamingdirect

    @farpointgamingdirect

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's mentioned in a book "Baseball Before We Knew It"

  • @travisperry4515

    @travisperry4515

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you could find it and share it??

  • @therealtruetwelfth798

    @therealtruetwelfth798

    Жыл бұрын

    Earliest reference to baseball in America is in a by-law written in 1791 in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

  • @jaerockets
    @jaerockets2 жыл бұрын

    i have a feeling this channel's gonna be big. keep it up!

  • @cushmfg

    @cushmfg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed these videos are so good!

  • @qualitycontent1325

    @qualitycontent1325

    2 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @VL1975
    @VL19752 жыл бұрын

    HOLY FUCK WITH THE SOUND EFFECTS! Blasted my ears off the headphones! @4:05

  • @ami2evil

    @ami2evil

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you happen to Slop Your Knickerbockers?

  • @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul

    @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul

    2 ай бұрын

    Somebody always complains about the music, without fail lol.

  • @VL1975

    @VL1975

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Thanks for responding a year later. LOL

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman09092 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing to think that at nearly the same time as Baseball was gaining popularity and spawning the clubs in the USA, at the same time as Association Football (soccer) was doing the same in England. How amazing would it be to be able to travel back in time to when NYC had three top flight professional baseball teams: the Yankees, the Dodgers and the Giants. Who wouldn't want to venture into Ebbits Field or the Polo Grounds before the wrecking ball demolished them, and the memories of what transpired there.

  • @mikefannon6994

    @mikefannon6994

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have precious memories of watching the Reds play at Crosley Field in the 60s. Think it's a vacant lot now.

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Soccer. Psssh.

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Assocation Football... Ass. Foot. For short?

  • @Raptorman0909

    @Raptorman0909

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBatugan77 Soccer soccer soccer soccer! There, feel better?

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    You must not forget that in the time the British occupied NE USA the game they played was cricket. There were many cricket clubs and even more players. If you look around there arre still some cricket ovals in existance. I'm Aussie and when visiting DC thirty years ago I saw a lunchtime game being played between what appeared to be diplomatic staff on an oval. A USA Cricket Association exists so maybe check their history.

  • @mellow-jello
    @mellow-jello Жыл бұрын

    Clubs in New Jersey played on the Elysian Fields in Hoboken, where they played a version of Rounders with rules adopted from Cricket. Activity would have involved playground rules, only formalized over time, when men played in amateur clubs, and writers began following exploits in professional clubs & leagues.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    that story was debunked but nit far iff from what happened…the amalgamation of two sports that were played begat the third game that we know of today

  • @leobthelionshow
    @leobthelionshow Жыл бұрын

    In college at UCF I took a sports history class with Dr. Crepeau and we learned about the history of baseball, loved that class.

  • @nitedreamer23
    @nitedreamer232 жыл бұрын

    Ear blast at 4:05. Be aware. Great video, however, just turn down the volume before 4:05.

  • @speranzayaya
    @speranzayaya2 жыл бұрын

    Damn, they were even shifting the dude at 2:33

  • @bobmcrae5751
    @bobmcrae57512 жыл бұрын

    The first baseball game recorded in Canada was played in Beachville, Ontario on June 4, 1838

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Oldest Team name Philadelphia Phillies(1890) The Oldest Team Cubs & Braves (1870) Fenway Park(1912) Alexander Joy Cartwright (Knickerbockers Club,1845)

  • @aaronharris5069
    @aaronharris50692 жыл бұрын

    Interesting short on the origins of baseball. I enjoyed it very much!

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep2 жыл бұрын

    man that is cool. Excellent work. My “general” historical knowledge was that it developed in the 1870s/1880s. But obviously I was wrong, and I am glad I learned! I sorta kinda wish it was still referred to as “New York Rules” baseball because internationally you have the distinction for Rugby and Australian Rules Rugby or football. lol. It doesn’t really matter, I just think it would be cool. And all those different names for different “ball games” that were played as you researched. That really blows my mind! Again I generally knew it sorta evolved from cricket but had not known there were so many different varieties! Again, very cool, excellent work excellent production!

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Knickerbockers, The First Baseball team(1845)

  • @rodneyhood2269

    @rodneyhood2269

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well we know that they played during the Civil War, 1861-1865. In Ken Burns Baseball they mention that their "center field " was captured.

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    The reference to Rugby (presuming Rugby Union as opposed to Rugby League) with AFL has little bearing as an analogy to baseball. There is definitely no where near as many variations in the rules in baseball wherever it is played. Americans tend to not have a good overall view of how many nations baseball is played in.

  • @nozrep

    @nozrep

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@flamingfrancis yes, I understand that. But in the video, he specifically delineates the history of how “New York Rules” baseball became the dominant form of baseball and eventually just became referred to as “baseball” as we refer to it today. All I was saying was, I think it would have been funny and cool if the “New York Rules” part of the name had held on through history and through the years, in similarly comparable manner as to how the specific phraseage of “Australian Rules football/rugby” has held on in their sport through the years and over the course of time and history. I was not making any direct comparison of the three games beyond historical, nomeclatural choices of phraseage for the names. No big deal. No problemo. Just a “fantasy” thought that Inhad while watching this excellent video on the history.

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын

    CRICKET: A Brit game that influenced the development of American baseball. CRICKETS: The result of 'Fire Sales' by baseball teams, such as the Oakland A's of 2022.

  • @robertpoindexter8616

    @robertpoindexter8616

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @yanke1256

    @yanke1256

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ooo so that's where Crickets comes from, Cricket....Yea I like New York Baseball much Better

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    Oakland As: 122 years of fire sales just to keep competing

  • @mikej1234
    @mikej12342 жыл бұрын

    Just subbed this video was so interesting and so cool keep it up can't wait to watch more much love man ❤️ ⚾🧢

  • @writerconsidered
    @writerconsidered2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I had some fuzzy knowledge on the early game, this cleared things up a bit.

  • @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul
    @MarlinWilliams-ts5ul2 ай бұрын

    There is a story from the War of 1812. American POWs brought to Britain were playing a game with a bat & a ball, when one of the prisoners chased a ball outside the camp boundary he was shot. They were playing an early version of base-ball.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck57052 жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: Derby County Football Club played their home matches at the Baseball Ground, but that location only got its name in 1890.

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Further Fun Fact.....the first known (REAL) World championship was played under the auspices of the International Baseball Federation (IBAF) in 1938. I'll let you all check out the details in Wikipedia to find out who won.

  • @DavidSmith-xs3or
    @DavidSmith-xs3or2 жыл бұрын

    Great informative videos. I'd like to see one on the origins of baseball uniforms- where they came from and how they got their distinctive look.

  • @big8dog887

    @big8dog887

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Paul Kostiak Great story, didn't know that. One small correction, though, Mack was the owner-manager of the Philadelphia Athletics (forebears to todays Oakland Athletics), not the Phillies.

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @ZENN-LA74
    @ZENN-LA742 жыл бұрын

    Enjoying your content. Keep up the good work, mate.

  • @thebaseballprofessor

    @thebaseballprofessor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!

  • @MFPhoto1
    @MFPhoto12 жыл бұрын

    I see you credit John Thorn's Baseball in the Garden of Eden. I totally recommend that book. I also recommend Paul Goldberger's Ballpark: Baseball in the American City.

  • @frankym69
    @frankym69 Жыл бұрын

    Rounders is actually an Irish sport and baseball is directly dirived from the sport, however town ball and beanball which are exactly identical to baseball, the only differences are bean ball you have to literally throw the baseball at the base runner to record an out. Town ball or stickball you can record an out the way we do today or by beaning your opponent. Town ball was also set up to play with any stick you can find to hit the ball. Sort of like baseball in the ghetto. Lol. Baseball is the oldest american sport with the oldest professional league in existence, The American Association (now the American League). There are a lot of facts in this that I never knew I played this game for a living at one point. Really good stuff here man.

  • @tgiunta41
    @tgiunta412 жыл бұрын

    The first game was played in Hoboken New Jersey !

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    that was long since debunked

  • @guitarz76
    @guitarz762 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. It makes me wonder when overhand pitching begin and was it controversial.

  • @vassa1972
    @vassa19722 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff enjoyed the information

  • @TheoSprinkles
    @TheoSprinkles2 жыл бұрын

    I read a book about the Louis and Clark expedition some years ago, where along the way they tought some Native Americans a stick and ball game with safe bases, I think they called it Rounders if I recall correctly. That would be early 1800s

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Knickerbockers, The First Baseball team(1845)

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Bat"? It was a popular similar version of MLB played in Canada, early 1800s, I've just discovered.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tur7321 except they weren’t…the game was around before them

  • @kevanleslie1511
    @kevanleslie15112 жыл бұрын

    First official game was in Beachville Ontario Canada in 1838 all recorded

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Video or it never happens bro.

  • @kevanleslie1511

    @kevanleslie1511

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look it up

  • @RoyalGamingMastersRGM

    @RoyalGamingMastersRGM

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I was waiting for this. Beachville's my home town and baseball's my favourite sport so I'm quite proud of it

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    Might of have been...or might have been a similar game called "Bat". Absolutely worthy of being discussed imo. Thanks!

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you produce a copy of the rules used?

  • @PaulfromChicago
    @PaulfromChicago2 жыл бұрын

    The Brits played a game called baseball in the 18th century or earlier. Hell, Jane Austen references the game in her novel Northanger Abbey.

  • @jbjoeychic
    @jbjoeychic2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Great job Just subbed

  • @hoponpop3330
    @hoponpop3330 Жыл бұрын

    When I was in England years ago some people mentioned that our baseball was similar their children’s game rounders. That’s the first time I ever heard of that game. I watched Cricket a number of times but it never made any sense accept the local guys drinking , during breaks , it reminded me of slow pitch softball

  • @markpatterson2507
    @markpatterson25072 жыл бұрын

    US Cavalry had spirited games mid thru late 1800s.In fact ,men under Col Custer had been playing only days before Little Bighorn....

  • @blehkelekwet9642
    @blehkelekwet96422 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video.

  • @yoboypoptart6192
    @yoboypoptart61922 жыл бұрын

    I wish those red stockings were as good as today’s reds

  • @pigs6486
    @pigs64862 жыл бұрын

    4:40 I wonder when they started making 'baseball' one word.

  • @PunkDudette5
    @PunkDudette59 күн бұрын

    4:05 I was cleaning and this scared me 😂😂

  • @multiverse7797
    @multiverse77972 жыл бұрын

    You get a dislike for the loud explosions that destroyed my hearing.

  • @hyzercreek
    @hyzercreek2 жыл бұрын

    The 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings moved to Boston where they became the Boston Red Stockings and then the Boston Braves. They still exist today as the Atlanta Braves.

  • @ThePickles69

    @ThePickles69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Braves & Cubs The Oldest Team(1870) Oldest Team name Philadelphia Phillies(1890) Fenway Park(1912)

  • @bretstanley8931
    @bretstanley89312 жыл бұрын

    New York fans were a spirited bunch even back then!😉

  • @yankees29

    @yankees29

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes we were

  • @gus473

    @gus473

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@yankees29 Go Red Sox! 👍🏼😂

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    were? they’re still spirited! they’re not crazy like the Philadelphia fans or masochists like Marlins fans, but they’re still spirited

  • @vincentmazzola5695
    @vincentmazzola56952 жыл бұрын

    * !!!Before playing this video!!!* ========================= You may need to mute the sound starting at 4:03 - 4:11. Bad audio. Otherwise GREAT info!!!

  • @paulpitt52
    @paulpitt522 жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын

    Subbed 👍

  • @VenomousStare
    @VenomousStare2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid man. Long live baseball

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @jerrygomez3825
    @jerrygomez38252 жыл бұрын

    Yup. You've impressed me enough. New sub here

  • @thebaseballprofessor

    @thebaseballprofessor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jerry

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @anonymousYTviewer69
    @anonymousYTviewer693 ай бұрын

    4:59 those green and yellow uniforms need to return

  • @ralphgarcia913
    @ralphgarcia9132 жыл бұрын

    Don't blame rock and roll. Rowdy behavior was said to start with the birth of rock and roll in the 1950s.

  • @thebravesfan1427
    @thebravesfan14272 жыл бұрын

    i love the content

  • @Grass_77
    @Grass_772 жыл бұрын

    Jump scare at 4:05

  • @trackmaster152002
    @trackmaster1520022 жыл бұрын

    Its pretty funny to think about a 50-40 game. Its like "Oh we have a commanding lead of 45-40 going into the bottom of the 9th... oh well I guess we'll be powerless to stop five runs from scoring because we don't have gloves, the field is a mass, our team is unathletic, and its basically slow pitch softball."

  • @ericgoldfarb4870
    @ericgoldfarb48709 ай бұрын

    Jason Alexander cartwright. CARTWRIGHT!!

  • @rossrobertson5622
    @rossrobertson56223 ай бұрын

    There is an argument that Baseball was first played in London Ontario Canada.

  • @greggweber9967
    @greggweber99672 жыл бұрын

    There was a time when it was 4 strikes and you're out at least by one set of rules.

  • @carlthornton3076
    @carlthornton30762 жыл бұрын

    Very Good!... #179 ✝ {7-13-2022}

  • @EpicVideoMaster11
    @EpicVideoMaster112 жыл бұрын

    When Trout was born

  • @notonyourlife7939
    @notonyourlife79392 жыл бұрын

    I don't know precisely when it became baseball... but I do know that it became a joke when they started putting a free runner on second base in extra innings.

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy22822 жыл бұрын

    Baseball will always be the greatest sport ever

  • @ami2evil
    @ami2evil2 жыл бұрын

    Base, Ball... There, the mystery has been solved...

  • @fabio40
    @fabio402 жыл бұрын

    The first recorded baseball game was played in Beachville, Ontario, June 4, 1838. A year before the game in Cooperstown. Google it.

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Knickerbockers,The First team Baseball(1845)

  • @brucetowell3432

    @brucetowell3432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Baseball historian Ken Burns might disagree.

  • @fabio40

    @fabio40

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brucetowell3432 I knew many Americans would reject it. That's why I said Google it.

  • @brucetowell3432

    @brucetowell3432

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fabio40 Oh I did, but your argument should be with Ken Burns, far be it from me to be called a baseball historian. Have you seen his baseball documentary?

  • @fabio40

    @fabio40

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brucetowell3432 I don't intend to argue. Just stating the facts.

  • @2XtheFather
    @2XtheFather2 жыл бұрын

    This is in my recommended and I don't know why

  • @nozrep

    @nozrep

    2 жыл бұрын

    it came into my recommendeds I believe because the youtube algorithm “sees” that I watch a lot of the channels Jomboy, Baseball Doesn’t Exist, and Pat McAfee, and also nother one simply called, Baseball Sports. Lol, yes, I always try to wonder about how the “algorithm” sends videos into the recommendeds. Even though I am certainly not deciphering it nor am I a programmer, thinking about how it happens makes me think I might almost be deciphering the secrets of the computer algorithm that controls video recommendations. Yes and how silly eh?

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    To sell you LIES! More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @wereleeroads9311
    @wereleeroads93112 жыл бұрын

    When it was no longer "3-O'Cat."

  • @yoadryanOK
    @yoadryanOK2 жыл бұрын

    Cartwright! Cartwright!

  • @bretstanley8931

    @bretstanley8931

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're referring to Seinfeld, I was thinking the same thing!😁🤣

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    father of the rules but not the game

  • @joesanchez3646
    @joesanchez36462 жыл бұрын

    Something is missing… stay tuned😎

  • @Ibhenriksen
    @Ibhenriksen2 жыл бұрын

    I think you meant when did base ball become baseball?

  • @flamingfrancis
    @flamingfrancis2 жыл бұрын

    If you really want to trace the lines of any of these bat and ball sports you need to go back just a bit further....to the Egyptian era. You will find some depictions in the hieroglyphics to stick / ball likenesses. But insofar as the reality of today's game is concerned we didn't have a game until we had rules so that makes it 1854.

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts Жыл бұрын

    Like most Gen-Xers I first heard the name 'Abner Doubleday' in a Wrigley gum commercial in the 70s..

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan772 жыл бұрын

    The Weekly Anglo-African. Whoa! Say what? 👁️👃🏿👁️ 👄

  • @voltrondefofunv5708

    @voltrondefofunv5708

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙄🤔😳

  • @jeremyrhansen6637
    @jeremyrhansen66372 жыл бұрын

    2:45 is it though??? And I don't see 9! They are kind of missing the most important position! I bet the umps HATED this era!! 🤣

  • @stevenvitte
    @stevenvitte2 жыл бұрын

    I watch videos like this and it saddens me in many ways. (Video was good and informative, by the way.) I look back at what baseball was in the beginning; it was a humble, innocent game filled with amateurs who just loved to play. I look at the nonsensical melodramatic circus that baseball is today with its politics corrupting the sport; players with multi-million dollar contracts, billionaire owners who purposely put out losing teams on the field, overdramatic sports media hyping baseball's off-field stories, cookie cutter ballpark dimensions that are off-putting, and the destruction of independent minor league baseball (MLB Partner Leagues = Scam). Baseball has fallen so hard in recent times. I hope baseball fans understand what I'm trying to say here... We need to start going back to the sport's simpler times.

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @TK0_23_

    @TK0_23_

    2 жыл бұрын

    The old game was actually filled with cursing, gambling and violence, on and off the field. Fights in the stands. Shady characters in the stands and dugouts. Even a few fires started and stands burned to the ground. It was no place for women and children. It wasn't until the early 1900's that team owners began to try and clean things up, because they were losing money at the gate. It culminated in 1919 with the Black Sox scandal which allowed them to enforced gentility.

  • @stevenvitte

    @stevenvitte

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TK0_23_ And your ultimate point? Not disregarding what you said, because even back then you had shady things going on in baseball (and every sport, for that matter). However, don't use what you just said as justification for the nonsense that's unfolding in baseball recently and now. You can't tell me with a straight face that what we have now in baseball is a million times better than what we had in the early 1900s. Politics, money, arrogance, and corruption are all anchoring baseball now. Do you want to spend thousands of dollars just to attend a single MLB game?

  • @FirstCoalitionArmy

    @FirstCoalitionArmy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenvitte in the early 1900s a team lost the world series on purpose for gambling money. I think you have very rose tinted glasses on when talking about early baseball.

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm almost 50 and think the game and the players are absolutely fascinating and fun. The "politics" is completely avoidable, as is the drama. All one has to do is watch the 9 innings of play between two teams. That's it. If you chose to embed yourself in the narratives of (as you admitted - elite and wealthy people) then that's what you'll get out of it. Tune out all that noise "old timer" just enjoy the game!

  • @zakarypetroski6994
    @zakarypetroski69942 жыл бұрын

    If you want to talk about the oldest team in baeball? It should be the oldest team in the same city and the same name in the most consecutive years. And that would make the oldest team in Major Leauge Baseball the Philadelphia Phillies. Who has been a team since 1889.

  • @FireballFlareblitz734

    @FireballFlareblitz734

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you want to talk about the oldest continuously running franchise, it would be the Atlanta Braves, who have played every season since 1871 (and have a reason to lay claim as the first professional baseball team as well since quite a few 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings players joined that organization)

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FireballFlareblitz734 and took the team name with them setting up the Red Sox to take the name eventually

  • @richardsylvanus2717
    @richardsylvanus27172 жыл бұрын

    LFGM!

  • @natesturm448
    @natesturm448 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Union Troops were allowed to play a game during their imprisonment is pretty neat. Now only if the confederacy had that moral compass towards blacks.

  • @clifford7594
    @clifford75942 жыл бұрын

    The New York Game. Of course.

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ask any Brit, Kiwi or Aussie... we're all Yanks on this side of the pond, chief. Heh hehehe heh...

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hide the jealousy Cliff.

  • @clifford7594

    @clifford7594

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBatugan77 What the hell would I be jealous about? I'm from Jersey, near where the first "New York Game" (the basis of the game that's played today) was played in 1846 at Elysian Fields - just across the Hudson from the "Capitol of Baseball" - Ken Burns. Generations of my family have seen the best teams in baseball play. My Dad caught one of Babe Ruth's home runs, and I was a friend of Yogi Berra when I was a kid. My Dad and I lunched with Whitey Ford at the Diamond Club. What the hell would we care about a perenially mediocre team from Ohio? Ohio? Fuck Ohio.

  • @functioningbroken3497
    @functioningbroken3497 Жыл бұрын

    All I think of is Adam Sandler ridiculous 8 how baseball was invented

  • @farpointgamingdirect
    @farpointgamingdirect2 жыл бұрын

    There's evidence that baseball is based upon existing games played by the Dutch in New Amsterdam

  • @sentimentalbloke185
    @sentimentalbloke1852 жыл бұрын

    In cricket, the ball is not pitched. It is bowled. Pitching is illegal.

  • @thebaseballprofessor

    @thebaseballprofessor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the correction. I should have said the ball is bowled or hurled without any bent elbows. Bowlers run towards the batsman.

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Bloke. 👈😡 This is 'Merica! If we say PITCH, it's PITCH! You GOT IT? Good..

  • @sentimentalbloke185

    @sentimentalbloke185

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBatugan77 Ahh, always amusing to see an American cultural imperialist in full stride. 🤣

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sentimentalbloke185 we take after the Brits, you taught us everything that we know

  • @sentimentalbloke185

    @sentimentalbloke185

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bostonrailfan2427 I'm not British, chief.

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik90342 жыл бұрын

    Volume too low, I gave up.

  • @AlvinSeville1
    @AlvinSeville12 жыл бұрын

    "When did baseball become baseball?" Baseball became baseball when people decided to make it baseball. Uh, I certainly hope that clarifies things a bit.

  • @rolandruesch6862
    @rolandruesch68622 жыл бұрын

    Rounders did not really become very popular since it is only played be girls.

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Incorrect...there are a number of versions and it was generally found to be a "village" game espeiallly when played in areas of Wales.

  • @vijaynair2403
    @vijaynair24032 жыл бұрын

    Well, everyone knows God invented baseball. Because it’s perfect in it’s weird intricacies. Either that or some mad scientist invented it in a lab.

  • @bigdambluesband6295
    @bigdambluesband62952 жыл бұрын

    I've watched a little bit of Cricket lately and as a baseball fan it really makes no sense at all. No bases? No foul balls? Makes no sense to me at all.

  • @TheBatugan77

    @TheBatugan77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, times tables and long division kicked your ass. So it actually makes sense... Big Dam blew bands...

  • @brennanroy7842

    @brennanroy7842

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cricket is easier to understand than baseball

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brennanroy7842 just bowling the ball to the batsman then the guys running back and forth to score runs until out…the real issue is it lacks the complexity of planning and tactics

  • @TheManWithNoName93
    @TheManWithNoName932 жыл бұрын

    Invented in canada

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    nope…but nice try you can lay claim to a chunk of lacrosse though

  • @TheManWithNoName93

    @TheManWithNoName93

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bostonrailfan2427 baseball was invented in canada in 1478

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheManWithNoName93 no you blithering idiot: it’s just one of the first recorded games by that name. the name itself is older than that: it’s at least 260 years old. it’s in multiple newspapers from before that year. given that there’s a strong BRITISH link to Canada then it’s not the same baseball that you believe it to be: it’s a cousin of the sport, like rounders or one of the other mentioned games. but i doubt uou care, you’re too lazy to bother researching

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @counselthyself you do know that the tribes WERE NOT SLL IN CANADA, right? the bulk of the originators WERE FROM THE UNITED STATES. Western and Upper New York/Pennsylvania area, not Quebec. so no, i was not wrong. just because the name was French due to the whites not pronouncing the native words DOES NOT MAJW IT CANADIAN

  • @jonnydanger7181
    @jonnydanger71812 жыл бұрын

    This guy abner dobbleday invented it.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    his buddy Abe Spaulding claimed that he did…the same guy whose company benefited from the fame his claims helped generate

  • @jamessveinsson6006
    @jamessveinsson60062 жыл бұрын

    Next you could do a video I Y the Chicago Cubs suck forever

  • @piggyroo100
    @piggyroo1002 жыл бұрын

    I can tell you when it STOPPED being baseball. The last ten years.

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sound like an old guy shaking his fist at the kids bud...just sayin...😅

  • @piggyroo100

    @piggyroo100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lewislovelord8977 You read my file

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@piggyroo100 Lol. It's okay man. The game is in okay shape. The people who run the game will always be despised because we all despise authority. But "the game" is fine. Always will be. 👍

  • @piggyroo100

    @piggyroo100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lewislovelord8977 Not to me. I stopped watching and attending. Think they’ll miss me? Universal dh was the last straw.

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@piggyroo100 Naw. Probably not but the game isn't really about individuals, never was imo.

  • @scottthomas3672
    @scottthomas36722 жыл бұрын

    Doc Adam’s is the Father of Base ball. Please research

  • @tur7321

    @tur7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alexander Cartwright Jr(Knickerbockers club,1845)

  • @blowupbob1

    @blowupbob1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Doc Adam's was too busy diggin bullets out of Matt Dillon to be playing baseball!

  • @thearcticlord3920
    @thearcticlord3920 Жыл бұрын

    Baseball is mention in 1744 John Newbury's Little Pretty Pocket Book and was invented in England possibly before 1700. I has taken the Americans 150 years to turn it into the only commercial sport which is duller than cricket.

  • @thebaseballprofessor

    @thebaseballprofessor

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch my full lecture on the "Origins of Baseball". I mention Newbury's Little Pretty Pocket Book.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    duller than cricket? soccer is the dullest sport of all the big sports!

  • @thearcticlord3920

    @thearcticlord3920

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bostonrailfan2427 Soccer? What is soccer? I fear you may be referring to football. Not American football of course, which appears to be a game designed solely for TV ads and those not fit enough to play rugby. I agree football is dull, so dull in fact that it is the no.1 sport in the world for both men and women.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thearcticlord3920 oh lookie, another ignorant Brit who doesn’t know the damn word is their own and who thinks that they’re superior because they use another word.

  • @sidemann8593

    @sidemann8593

    3 ай бұрын

    Bowling's a good sport. It keeps your kids off the streets and puts them in the alleys.

  • @chefdsal1
    @chefdsal12 жыл бұрын

    When they stole it from cricket

  • @ericdailey8587

    @ericdailey8587

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had learned that cricket was popular in the 1800s, but as baseball grew in popularity, cricket players migrated over to baseball.

  • @bostonrailfan2427

    @bostonrailfan2427

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ericdailey8587 stole?

  • @andykitchen5225
    @andykitchen52252 жыл бұрын

    Baseball players are so scared of the ball they have to wear huge gloves to stop them hurting their hands. Cricket players must have a good laugh at that.

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    You must have totally forgot to mention that wicket keepers (Catcher) in cricket wear large padded gloves on both hands PLUS inner gloves.. Arguably the most spectacular catches taken are from wicketkeepers who gain a big lateral movement advantage knowing their hands are safer. It is a safety factor in any case and has always been part of baseball. If you think that it makes cricket more superior to baseball you need to start learning. You might also ask yourself why do most of the national players of cricket teams wear basebll gloves when dong their warm ups prior to the commencement of most games these days?

  • @andykitchen5225

    @andykitchen5225

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@flamingfrancis okay yes the wicket keeper wears gloves but look at their proximity. They are for safety. Your catchers are so swaddled in armor you would think they were on a bomb disposal team, so go on compare the two. Baseball gloves are made to make the catching easier and less painful on the hands. Full stop. Stop kidding yourself and do us a favor, use less words, you sound pretentious. Oh and don’t even get me started on all the pads and helmets your “football” players use, that game easily compares to rugby, what is it with American sports is your toughness is only for show?

  • @morefiction3264

    @morefiction3264

    2 жыл бұрын

    And a proper cricket game can last a week.

  • @andykitchen5225

    @andykitchen5225

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@morefiction3264 5 days. For a test match. Sure. I never said it was an exciting game.

  • @morefiction3264

    @morefiction3264

    2 жыл бұрын

    The other thing I've wondered. Have you ever played catch with someone with a baseball? Typically we'll stand 30 feet apart or so and throw a hardball as hard as we can at each other. And I do mean at each other. You target the shoulder, sometimes it's more at the face though. It's one of the fundamental skills. Throwing and catching like that.

  • @mr.devil9577
    @mr.devil95772 жыл бұрын

    Too bad I don't have a time machine to stop these villains from creating the most boring sport in history

  • @kidwave1

    @kidwave1

    2 жыл бұрын

    More total horsesh!t to cover up the truth. The freemasons created baseball, thats why there is 3 strikes and 3 outs and 9 innings, in reference to 33rd degree masons! All you have see to KNOW THIS TRUTH is look downn at the field AND SEE THAT IT IS THE SHAPE OF A COMPASS AND SQUARE, the symbol of freemasonry! 90 feet between bases is a nod to 90 degree right angles, achieved by a square.

  • @ebonyc5562

    @ebonyc5562

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yet you can’t help but being pressed at others enjoying it. Sad life.

  • @lewislovelord8977

    @lewislovelord8977

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol. We are not "untrollable" and I appreciate your comment OP. Made me laugh! It can be a dry game and not for everyone, agreed and I love the sport.

  • @Killerqueen2000

    @Killerqueen2000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just admit you can't understand it

  • @randymanson5752
    @randymanson57522 жыл бұрын

    Now I understand why it's slow dry and boring ty fu

  • @christophersummers1939

    @christophersummers1939

    2 жыл бұрын

    back on the short bus with you