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@QuantumNetwork

7 ай бұрын

Verruckt has always been my favourite and scariest map. Truly haunting

@Callofdeath1997

6 ай бұрын

Your link isnt working anymore, any other way to join? Would love to play some good old zombies again

@TheKalmGaming

4 ай бұрын

Even if i choose my shit, bo4 wasnt that much forgiving. They dropped the ball at cold war for me, basically invincible.

@dawz198x

4 ай бұрын

Honestly I lost the anxiety in black ops 2. And more so in black ops 3. They made the zombies smaller in black ops 2. They looked less threatening than bo1 and WAW

@mikeoxlong7139

4 ай бұрын

its really the map i been playing zombies since bo2 and some maps im still scared to play solo😂

It wasn't until bo4 did I feel that zombies lost it's anxiety. The ability to CHOOSE a starting loadout, CHOOSE what perks you had, and CHOOSE where those perks where ruined the survival feel. You were no longer in a bad situation and forced to utilize whatever the map gave you, as you had control from before the game even started.

@limz13

7 ай бұрын

I really enjoy current day bo4

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

For me, it was BO3. Although I think it is my favorite, it just killed a lot of that anxiety with gobblegums, 3 hits without jugg, and the opportunity to load in with RK5s. But the community was peak during this time. The engine looked beautiful, and I actually think BO3 looks like one of the cleanest cod games ever made (from a PC perspective at least). Easter eggs were peak, story was peak, and maps were quite consistent and full of cool wonder weapons. The only thing really missing was the difficulty and anxiety. Everything else was about peak cod zombie form for me

@rhy45bianchi31

7 ай бұрын

@@theWheezy im tired of the "eNgINe" from Cod 4 to mw 2019 they used the same fucking engine Jesus fucking Christ every zombies youtuber I see it's fucking ignorant on how a Cod it's made It Always been the same fucking engine and engine doesn't dictate gameplay engine dictate what lightning, texture, sounds, and to cunstruct the data itself Cod Always used the same fucking engine until mw2019 were they changed engine and the eNgINe itself doesn't dictate the game play please before saying engine do fucking research BC of Tim hassen the zombies commiunity think video games engines dictate gameplay they don't stop spreading disinformation

@abejamie

7 ай бұрын

i just wasn’t a child anymore

@hamcheese3532

7 ай бұрын

Bo4 for me aswell but cold war absolutely killed any form of it because of the health bar

It's the charm that old zombies had, it felt liminal, it felt like you shouldn't be there and you were alone, it was Erie and scary to play alone

@TheYumChannel

7 ай бұрын

You phrased that perfectly, especially it didn’t feel like you were supposed to be there

@imdrewfimurr3911

7 ай бұрын

@TheYumChannel it felt ominous, I feel like bo3 and up kinda lost this charm, it just doesn't have the same ambiance as say town, or five, especially nuketown zombies loading screen, which was actually creepy and that's what made it so fun to play

@scottjs5207

7 ай бұрын

@@imdrewfimurr3911 I still remember dropping into it on launch day and I was amazed by it! That bell charm slowly dying as the first round began...

@imdrewfimurr3911

7 ай бұрын

@@scottjs5207 the loading screens on old cods were perfect

@uPSIDEdOWN577

7 ай бұрын

That’s so accurate.

There will never be a gaming experience that can bring more anxiety upon me than completing WaW campaing at 3 am

@TheYumChannel

7 ай бұрын

Oooo that’s a killer

@scottjs5207

7 ай бұрын

You mean on Veteran? THE GRENADES ARE COMING FOR ME!!!

@amgvlogs5087

7 ай бұрын

original five nights a Freddie's was equivalent if not more anxiety.

@Name-vp3ds

7 ай бұрын

This. I vividly remember that cutscene just after finishing the campaign of the zombie running towards you, scared the shit out of little me

@cditzler2018

7 ай бұрын

For fucking real

As someone who's played zombies since the start of 2009, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the easter egg songs made my friends and I all feel like badasses and the fear of dying went away. I love waw and bo1 because they felt like you were actually surviving against the zombies, not doing a quest with the inconvenience of zombies being there

@hebjdhdhdbbshshshshs9119

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely waw and bo was the best

@chadkirk925

7 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! I used to play BO2 zombies with my friends and they always wanted to do the stupid “Easter eggs” which just boiled down to getting down to one zombie crawling around while you watch and try to replicate a KZread video for an hour. I hated that shit. I just wanted to actually PLAY THE GAME

@Gematrinator

6 ай бұрын

Kino der toten was so good

@DrippyVisualsLLC

5 ай бұрын

Agreed !

@jswagpsn2285

5 ай бұрын

Ain't nobody dying as long as 115 is playing xD even on high rounds, we'd save that last rock to activate when we needed it most

The vanoss “dude I’m not scared” at the start made me laugh.

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

He’s my favorite KZreadr, he’s been killing it lately on them scary games. Had to include that bit from him 😌

@xzempty_8387

7 ай бұрын

​@theWheezy vanoss has always been amazing, but recently, I feel he's been making the best content of his career. Fun reference.

@BeelzebubBeelzebub

7 ай бұрын

It’s what convinced me to watch this video to the end haha

@glurak888

7 ай бұрын

​@@xzempty_8387Coward deleted all the "shooting to the beat" montages. Fuck him. Did Yoteslayer dirty.

@muhammadnaufalbinahmadmazranmo

7 ай бұрын

You like his video episode with Lui Calibre@@theWheezy

My buddies and I always had the agreement “no one goes down when the song is on”

@ElazulKnight

7 ай бұрын

I've never died while the song is on in Kino

@aomais5138

7 ай бұрын

@@ElazulKnightcuz when 115 starts playing you get plot armor

@killianmccluff36

7 ай бұрын

Facts

@poolee77

7 ай бұрын

We saved the song for as long as possible. Playing it usually gave us enough for a boost to make another level

*I barely wanted to play 'Five' as a kid,* because it gave me bad anxiety! I'd always tell my friends that Kino was better, but 115 gave me eerie vibes and horrible anxiety.

@triocha233

7 ай бұрын

Completely agree with you 😂 I was terrified of that map

@Waryfuls

7 ай бұрын

@@triocha233 Same bruh, I'd always find excuses not to play Five

@sonofodin1044

6 ай бұрын

Yeah the doctor scared me so much I would do the table glitch

@Waryfuls

6 ай бұрын

@@sonofodin1044 😭😂

@silverninja2132

5 ай бұрын

five was scary man, at the time of my first play through of the campaign, it threw me into five and i was scared because my dad told me not to play zombies because of how scared i got. Core memories man, kino is my favorite. its perfect.

I felt like I noticed that zombies was going in a more "player friendly" direction when they added gobblegums in 2015, along with the movement speed being increased, player health increase too, and a general story shift too. It felt different at the time and I remember sticking with the older games because they just felt.. well different, and more of a basic "from the ground up" experience the older games give.

@GIJames

7 ай бұрын

plus idk what they are doing with the story, can we please link it back to a funny rock and and nazi occultism and science fiction with real history in it, it felt so much cooler to me.

@kippurthedog

7 ай бұрын

Wasn’t really player friendly, casual’s thought getting pack on shadows was the EE 😂

@x52wolf12

6 ай бұрын

I still thought bo3 zombies was amazing. Tranzit and die rise had the “from the ground up” type experience but they weren’t that good. At least the maps in bo3 were great.

@chillbizz74

5 ай бұрын

Black Ops 1 was my most favorite version of Nazi Zombies

@Deathmare235

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@x52wolf12tranzit sucked cause the process of going from the ground up sucks

The old cod zombie maps had a great dynamic where they were fun as ever playing with friends, but then when you tried playing them alone, they quickly became an utter nightmare with you constantly checking every corner not knowing when a zombie might be coming right behind you. Great times

The worst part is when we were all playing this, we had no idea it was going to be the best they ever did, and that there'd never be anything quite like it.

I personally felt like waw and BO1 did it best. But at the end of the day, WAW did it the best. The time line, locations, and the movement of the zombies, felt real. If you were playing alone, you felt like you were against all odds. You’re stuck in an abandoned location, that not to long ago, was controlled by evil.

@nickthompson1812

7 ай бұрын

This might be the nostalgia talking but I 100% agree with you. New zombies tries to hard to keep innovating and giving you new tools. I just need a 1911 and a couple of good buddies.

@Okami400

7 ай бұрын

100 %

@ragingstormgaming7829

5 ай бұрын

I think most creepy and anxious was waw and bo1. I personally think funnest was bo2. Played them both!

@BungieStudios

4 ай бұрын

I didn’t like WaW for the same reason I don’t like BO2. The knifing has a lunge mechanic rather than a swipe. Not only does it miss, it pulls you in to get double swiped. The movement system was wonky in both games.

@Balls1335

4 ай бұрын

Y’all remember the zombies in Verrückt? That was the scariest map in the series, one of the gameplay reasons being the zombies’ sprint speeds and another being tight corridors and separate spawn sides.

World at War and Black Ops will always be the peak zombies experience. No flashing lights and instant gratification with choices amidst the chaos. Nothing but pure uncertainty, and reliance on your skill.

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

No

@Settiis

6 ай бұрын

@@lazyvoid7107Yes

I still remember WAW zombies late at night as a kid and let me tell the generation who never truly experienced beating the campaign just to see that scary ass cut scene of the plane crash and the zombie coming at you and in real der ris when you’d throw the monkey bomb in the furnace true terror to hear sams voice before we knew what it was i wish y’all could relive that experience for the first time

@verydaizey7790

2 ай бұрын

stupid little kid npc

The Easter egg music is plot armor

Something to take into account too is the maps themselves and the overall “zombie feel”. I love outbreak but putting zombies on what feels like a multiplayer map doesn’t give me that same feeling that being trapped in an abandoned mental asylum gives off. The torn down, bloody structures, random corpses, they gave off that “zombie” feel. Some of the newer maps have a hard time doing that, it feels like it’s just zombies on a multiplayer map.

@neckbeardcat6777

7 ай бұрын

I mean the post launch maps are exactly that, they're campaign and multiple maps that were repurposed for zombies. Outbreak maps were originally meant to be a blackout br map until activision pulled the plug on that gamemode.

@eastfieldfilms8593

7 ай бұрын

This is why im really looking forward to MWZ on the new game coming out next month because it looks like outbreak, but with more anxiety and detailed atmosphere to the maps

@scottjs5207

7 ай бұрын

It's funny how even Transit could pull off that anxiety to a degree since the open areas were incredibly hostile at times as well. To me though, the more open maps got, the more it reduced that anxiety... also the sound effects, I still think Natch and Verruckt have the most haunting atmospheres in the entire series. (Mob is just overkill and feels like an edgy teen trying to be scary)

@scottjs5207

7 ай бұрын

@@neckbeardcat6777 literally all of them are reused assets. However, there's a clear design philosophy with each, they tend to keep spaces tight and slightly claustrophobic as compared to what their Campaign and MP layouts were for the most part. It's like the BO2 Nuketown Zombies Remake which did a fantastic job of making the map far more restrictive as well.

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

​@@scottjs5207Nah you hating on Mob

Well said and well timed since the new mw3 zombies got a trailer. Atmosphere is something a game, location, and map need to set in on the player. Something as little as seeing the health bar of a zombie in Cold War removes anxiety and atmosphere since you know exactly when the zombie will die, instead of needing to learn around how many shots you require. Any miscount could mean your downfall which meant you needed to be careful to not fall in overconfidence. Looking at something like Verruckt or Buried, these maps are years apart. While the latter has more features, both accomplish the goal that there is still a certain atmosphere. Something to be afraid of, and everywhere you travel is a choice that can mean survival, everything you need to survive another round, or your downfall. In Cold War as an example, there is no map to me personally that evokes any emotion such as fear, or asking questions such as: who is talking to me, why am I here, what happens when I open this door? The first time I went down the elevator in Five and see the horrific laboratory was a moment that set fear. Or see the pentagon thief running at you, not to kill you. Simply to steal your way of survival for the next round. That era of zombies knew how to strike emotion to the player.

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

Didn’t intend on timing this with MW3 zombies, but oh goodness has zombies been extremely disappointing for me. Haven’t enjoyed it since BO3 genuinely. BO4 just tried getting experimental, and Cold War just feels soulless to me. Vanguard/MW3 zombies is honestly just disrespectful to the craft. MW3 zombies should’ve been promoted as DMZ and solely that. That ain’t no cod zombies to any real fan

@SaucY213

7 ай бұрын

MW3 zombies is just dmz with some zombies on the map i've seen mods with more passion

The last time I felt anxiety was on Die Rise. My first time playing the map, I took in everything. The scenery, the location, the zombies talking to you when you're playing as Stulinger. All the sound effects of the building creaking, fearing falling off the edge. Not to mention the blood everywhere, the sweatshop.. imagining what the place was like before the zombies. Hearing a hidden radio, I felt even more anxiety, knowing that there's people down below that have been massacred. It was a great experience, besides how the map itself plays. The atmosphere was truly great for a first time player.

@jaimegarcia767

7 ай бұрын

Yo same! Idk why but origins just didn't make feel scared just kinda sad :(

@BoxOfCurryos

7 ай бұрын

Die Rise is the scariest zombies map no doubt.

@thechugg4372

7 ай бұрын

Not sure about scariest but god damn the art design of Die Rise is unmatched@@BoxOfCurryos

@souldjahovmisfortune9325

5 ай бұрын

Die rise was the last map I ever played on bo2 it’s been 11 years and I still remember jumping from one high rise to the other and the red dragon me and brothers would fight over playing it. It had a tense feel with how uneven the map was.

@roronoazoro2970

4 ай бұрын

@@BoxOfCurryosverrukt from waw says hello

I remember back when bo1 came out. Never played cod before and I got into zombies because my brother showed it to me. I would be sitting on the floor shaking with fear whenever I played. It lasted up untill bo2 when origins dropped. I really miss those times

@Easygoated3418

7 ай бұрын

we all miss some times :/

*_it's almost like the newer games focused on gameplay instead of story/setting. incredible._*

Will never forget being scared of playing Bo 2 zombies alone, the loading screen music when loading made my hairs go up

When it comes to the most anxiety inducing map, I’d have to pick Verruckt from WAW. The perks may have been a great addition for survivability, but the guns themselves still didn’t kill fast enough. Add in the fact that Verruckt sprinters started early around round 6, you’d better hope you aimed for the head and that the window behind you wasn’t open for a sneak attack.

@Fxrrxt2x

7 ай бұрын

I also thought it was always very creepy to see those sprinters coming at you from across the hallway with those animations they have 😬

I almost got anxiety the way those zombies was just running up to the screen like that in the intro

I understand the feeling of Anxiety in old CoD zombies but at the same time i can't understand that someone who played WaW zombies first at launch and experienced all the DLC have the same "Anxiety" feeling when he arrived on Kino, especially when the zombies in WaW were really buggy and stick to the player when they hit you compared to the really easy avoidable zombies in BO1. At the start of BO1 i was already playing way better than i did in WaW and the feeling of fear against the zombie went away completely, of course sometimes i was still dying from a 2 hit in early rounds because i wasn't paying attention but honestly doing a game of Kino in public was like me having 30-50 revives because i was constantly reviving the 3 others dudes that kept dying, at this point i was always going for the upgraded balistic knife for secondary and playing with only 1 weapon. All of that felling is just a big nostalgia thing, and my first game of Nacht will forever be in my mind but my first game of Kino was absolutely not as "traumatizing" as my first game of Nacht.

Still remember queing up for a 4 player game of waw or bo1 on the xbox 360, it always felt more like you had to plan your setup of loadout and perks before it was too late before the higher rounds came or you would end up just anchoring the team

@roronoazoro2970

4 ай бұрын

I still play waw and bo1 on the 360 lol

this video is actually so relatable, its sad that its became just a gamemode to play for camos to have in multiplayer 😢

@thechugg4372

7 ай бұрын

Not for Multiplayer, camos for Zombies that's all

Best era of COD Zombies, it felt challenging and rewarding because you had to earn everything while everyone also started at the same progression as you. Gobblegums AKA Cheat Codes ruined Zombies because they no longer made new perks and everything went towards montizing the gums, some of the maps were also made with those gums in mind (Zetsubou EE). I also felt the customizable loadout did damage aswell since you can add extra damage,fast reloads, better ADS etc all from buying a wall weapon, something that in the past literally had to be earned through buying perks and double Pack a Punch, not anymore you get it off the wall for the same price as the normal weapon. Glad to see someone finally pointing out the massive flaws of BO3 Zombies, it's a great game don't get me wrong but i really feel that's when the downfall started through custom loadouts,gobblegums and alot more making it lose a certain magic and charm the gamemode once had.

@maniachd324

7 ай бұрын

Still the best zombies game overall but agreed far from perfect especially since there wasn‘t a no gobblegum mode with the old zombies settings or anything like that that would have been bussin

@lintlickers

7 ай бұрын

You little kids are wrong and that’s all imma say.

@kaiser9287

4 ай бұрын

That's why I played the All Around Enhancement Mod, because it gives you the option to turn all that shit off. I like Gobblegums personally, but when I'm in the mood to play something the old fashioned way, I either turn them off or go to Waw customs.

To this day as a grown man, I still have an irrational fear of playing zombies, especially alone. I think playing WaW zombies as a little kid scared the bejeezus out of me. WaW, Blops 1 and Blops 2 zombies were pretty unnerving compared to what we have gotten since

I remember back then I was terrified of zombies. Never would play it late at night. My greatest achievement that my 9 year old self accomplished was getting to round 40 in kino. The entire time I was breathing heavily and the adrenaline running through my veins. How amazing that was. The atmosphere and the liminal space of a feeling that a player should be with me in a solo game. And the screeches of the zombies terrified me. The mystery of how the zombies can form some sort of words. The teddy bear laugher. The ambient noises. The laughter of the “Game over screen.” When I would hear it I would imagine a zombie feasting on my characters corpse while laughing giving it an eerie feeling.

Verrückt was def the scariest map back in the day because the eerie nature of it being an old insane asylum that all felt closed in was insane

I remember back in the WaW days when me and my friends would play Nacht and had a blast but then whenever nobody was online and I wanted to play I would try to go in but every time they started increasing in speed I would immediately back out and go play something else lmao. Never would have thought Call of Duty would be a game that I'd be quitting out of fear.

I miss the old days of zombies so bad. My and my friends would spend hours every Friday night in middle school rotating through all the zombies maps from WaW to Bo2. Those were the days...

I agree 100%, zombies from older cods was filled of anxiety and fear of the unknown. And we’ll it always felt like it was hard 2 chose A or B, meaning like ur metaphor with Timmy and jimmy. Newer cods make u feel 2 powerful…

Thx 4 making me remember the good old times mate, ur work on the cod zombies is amazing and all the data u used being in the description is a +! Keep working like this pls 🙏🏼

Good video, I love the challenge of older zombies maps. I'm creating my own bo3 map and I'm trying to recapture the difficulty

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

Hope the map creation goes well! People like you keep providing content the fans want in a game that the developers couldn’t continue. It’s always awesome to see

@phr3ui559

7 ай бұрын

can’t wait to see

@milana2020

7 ай бұрын

You got this

"Dude Im not scared" - Vanoss

this video is so spot on. i have always found the set up process in a zombies map the most enjoyable part of the experience

I haven’t felt fear in a zombies game since I first started. Once you know what you are doing (even in WAW and bo1) it’s easy and not scary. It was only scary in the beginning because you didn’t know where to go and what to do. With newer games there is no anxiety or fear because it’s not grounded in somewhat reality like the old zombies was

@Davidvanzutphen

7 ай бұрын

And for some reason glowing objects are flying around in the newer maps instead of having a more realistic map with old or decayed buildings

the production on this video is incredible

Everything about this was very well done and analyzed. I had fun watching this and reminiscing about the past and how horrifying the older games were.

This video is incredibly well made and shares a lot of the criticisms I've ranted about in my own vids and streams. I'm glad there's still some hope in this community that the sane ones are still out there.

In WAW-B02 did I feel this. In bo3 after losing the 2 hit down system, it started to get much easier, and with the gobblegums too easy. Bo4 really made a dent with being able to choose a load out instead of starting with a pistol and letting us use specials so much. When Cold War came out, we lost 4 base characters we could grow attached to, and got actual full load outs making zombies not even a challenge

Fucking thank you for saying those words about gobblegums. They completely ruined the fun of zombz to me, playing wit h people who would beg to reset cuz they didn't get perkoholics legit made me stop talking to people whose days

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

Resetting is crazy, they could spin it the next round 😭 Personally, I already got really good at zombies so I never minded it as much as others probably have. I was satisfied enough with consistent maps, cool wonder weapons, and a developing storyline. Plus content was at an all time high and was a really fun community to be a part of, one of the better gaming ones I’ve seen. But WAW-BO2 just hits different and made you focus up until you are comfy with all your needed weapons, perks, and any buildables if any. Different levels of satisfaction there

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

​@@theWheezyas nobody is forcing you to use them dude

@joshua7563

18 күн бұрын

@@lazyvoid7107Well the 3 hit is also just ass Rather have 2 hit like in prior to black ops 3

Honestly starting the video off with the lab from five perfectly captivated that scary claustrophobic feeling of OG zombies bravo 👏 I also believe B03 was that turning point for the direction of zombies.

you really capitalized on a big factor that made zombies fun. great video and it definitely speaks truth

This video is perfection. I remember when nacht came out, my friends and I struggled to get to round 10 even. It was the most fun I’ve had in zombies, when it was actually challenging (granted I sucked back then) Oh what I would give to have a new zombies game with bo1 mechanics, zombies that run just as fast as you, more zombies on the map at a time, with bo4 type Easter eggs I can hop on any zombies game after bo2 and get past round 100 without trying, it’s just not challenging anymore :/

@Fxrrxt2x

7 ай бұрын

BO3 mods do that: only super sprinters, more zombies at a time, etc.

Love your content, Bro. I struggle massively with nostalgia, especially when it comes to zombies so its awesome to have stuff like this to put that at ease every once in a while. Zombies is unrecognisable now. Especially after having seen the MWZ reveal. It just aint it man.

I am really surprised that someone mentioned this again. You explained this so well. As someone who never played a lot of multiplayer zombies, I never used chewing gum in bo3 so the anxiety was still there. But then again u tank 3 hits in bo3.

You sun up how I feel perfectly, that adversity and anxiety is so addictive

I noticed the Vanoss audio clip towards the beginning and checked the description, wondering if you credited it. Much to my surprise everything was credited and cited and I have to commend you for that. On top of that, this is a concise and well structured video essay. Sub earned 👍

There really was something special about getting my friends together on kino and going "guys, press the rocks just trust me" for the first time. I know it's not true but to this day i swear it made the zombies faster and more aggressive. Took us from terrified middle schoolers to high octane soldiers in an instant 😅

What a great video man Missing on old maps

Got yourself a subscriber! Those intro transitions from the halo games sold me on your editing 🔥

hello Wheezy outta here

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

Sup homie

I definitely agree about the anxiety being important and the mega gums being cheat codes and I never use them, but personally, I prefer the BO3 style where you can get hit once extra but the zombies swing their arms faster. I feel like it only took a small amount of the anxiety away. BO4 and further, to me, are where it got ridiculous with specialist weapons in your loadout and countless other mulligans.

Thanks for this power point presentation. Great perspective

WaW and BO1 zombies were the iterations that gave me the most anxiety during 2008-2011. At the time, Zombies was new and it was pretty challenging at the time as you mentioned in the video. While Zombies doesn't give me the same feeling today as it did back then, I do have to credit a lot of that not to just the way Zombies caters to comfort, but also, I'm not a kid anymore. I was only 9 years old when I played WaW zombies for the first time and the anxiety and fear I had of being chased by a horde of zombies all alone on Nacht.

Hearing the wunderwaffle as the screen was pitch black put the biggest smile on my face, very well put together video!

Great video! Really hits home what I was feeling with Cold War. I like Cold War but knew something was up when I started being able to play by myself and get to round 50 by myself on Cold War. I’ve always been the worst zombies player among my friend group and struggled on BO1 and BO2 back in the day. While some of this may be improvement, a large portion is change in difficulty and with that more anxiety in the older games. Also on a side note, did anyone else get 5 ads on this 10 minute video?? Really makes KZread feel like watching TV. Just like zombies, classic KZread used to be better

This the feeling I couldn't describe, even in some maps of B02 I felt like it was going away

this is such an awesome topic to make a video essay about, well done

I was 17 when i played this game. The fun/scary feeling I got out of this game was different than any other game I’ve ever played. I wouldn’t call it anxiety though. All my friends and i cared about was finding a place to camp ⛺️ In zombies.

This! This is EXACTLY what's missing from Cold War zombies. The anxiety. Something I always got creeped out from and still do, is the laugh at the beginning of every map Also tbh, I rarely use gobblegums. Something else: I personally think the 2 hit down system is better than the 3 hit down. 2 hit was less bs and also forced you to strategize at least until you got Jug

@IGLlLl5654

7 ай бұрын

rose tinted nostalgia glasses

@intuitionedits2.032

7 ай бұрын

@@IGLlLl5654 nope. I only got super into zombies last year.

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

​@@intuitionedits2.032Nah

great video... ur absolutely right

1:55 that's become a meme between me and my nephew,glad to see someone else appreciates "dude I'm not scared".

People forget that most gobblegums especially the OP ones didn‘t existed in the first half of the BO3 cycle so on release BO3 was quite difficult if you weren’t a above average player at the time. Just shows how people don‘t have good memories since the BO3 you are playing today is a completely different game from the one at Release especially in terms of difficulty

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

Duh he is one of those types of Nostalgia freaks

I love how you summed up my first experience playing zombies when I was 10 years old. My cousin got black ops 1 only 3 days after its release. I remember playing it by myself on Kino scared shitless. Pausing the game and thinking if I should keep playing. I was only 10 years old lmaooo. Great video man!

even as an adult that bo1 switch up to the zombies menu gives me chills

Honestly I think the direction they’re going with zombies in MW3 is just going to continue to make the mode worse. IMO sledgehammers direction was interesting and with some tweaking could’ve been the new direction for cod zombies.

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

They should’ve strictly promoted it as DMZ, cause that’s all it is. They used to have a Warzone event with zombies, but no one looked at that like the true zombies mode. Their marketing made MW3 zombies seem like it was supposed to be the real deal, but surprise it’s just DMZ

lmao okay so this sounds nitpicky but it isn't, you're not using the word anxiety correctly. Anxiety is the effect produced on us by the elements in concert by the game intentionally or not; it is not "the anxiety of the game" it is the design of the game that produces anxiety in us. It's like saying horror movies used to have scared in them. Just, I was super confused by the title and the thesis and I think if you were to make your argument more clearly you could say something like, Call of Duty Zombies lost intensity and intention to scare the player with it's design but again the wording it lost anxiety; that would be like saying it went to therapy and recovered, lol

Yea man, everything you said was right and accurate, you have amazing analytical skills

Really great video. This video talks more about world at war, but the first game I got into zombies was BO2 and to me there’s still no map that combines the tension and anxiety of tight WAW maps with the more accessible and intuitive gameplay of Mob of the Dead. That kind of horror and claustrophobic feeling the old zombies games gave off is never going to come back because COD is too mainstream of a franchise, and they mainly want to appeal to casuals.

You're making this way more dramatic than it actually is. The reason why we all were very anxious during the early COD zombies was because we were young and or new to the game....

@theWheezy

7 ай бұрын

Not really, yes people get used to it but it can still easily be scary. I played some verruckt alone today and I was pretty goddamn terrified. Situations get intense, and audio with headphones on is nerve wrecking. Not trying to be an ass in response to you, but seriously go try out verruckt by yourself at night. Have some headphones on and keep the game volume where it is by default. Have an open mind and see what you think

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

​@@theWheezyHe is not wrong tho. When I was young I was scared of BO1 zombies but when I got experience with the maps it wasn't not scary even in solos but would agree that verruckt is still one of the most hunting maps even in BO3 I got scared once from the banging

@thetypicalgrape9898

4 ай бұрын

@@lazyvoid7107 🤓

Really well put together video surprised to see you're not a larger channel

Dude your editing style is amazing! Keep up the good work.

Great video! I definitely feel like the older maps gave me way more anxiety than those in bo3. I like to think the atmosphere also had some sort of part in it, seeing as the graphics and tone were a bit more serious than what we got later on (forever praising modern technology for allowing better lighting in video games lol). I swear the music ee's were also like a second wind - that's why you would activate them in 'later' rounds. The characters voicelines were a massive reprieve for my anxiety in that sense too. Hearing whatever ridiculous Richtofenism cut through the thick dread in the air and empower me to soldier on. But then again I don't know if that's because I grew older and more seasoned with zombies as the games came out, or because of the gobblegums. I had to grind for forever to get my first perkaholic, and even then I didn't want to use it until I had at least 10 minimum. So by that time I was gunning for high rounds/ee's anyway. I already knew how the zombies moved and how I had to train to evade attacks. Weirdly enough though, I found bo3 movement hard at first because of how easier it was to move lmao To me what ruined the anxiety was having a loadout to spawn in with. The idea I could safely bet I'd have a specific set of perks, with weapons kitted out to whatever I set on the wall/in box messed with the scare factor of zombies. It's gonna sound stupid, but when they gamified zombies - health bars, objectives, loadouts to lvl up - it took away all the anxiety and made it feel... like any other video game I guess. It took away the potential to waste time THINKING about your next move, how to get there, how many hits the zombie needed etc etc - player agency and all that - and kinda held your hand through it all. Some gums added to gameplay imho but idk, compared to the other stuff I don't think they were all that detrimental to the uneasiness I felt in zombies.

The vanoss, "dude I'm not scared" lol

This was the shit back in the day good old days! nice video great editing

THIS. I've always been searching for the right way to phrase why i prefer the first two games, then you come and put it all down perfectly! The original games just felt.. Grim. Dark. Like a place you don't belong, where your choices never truly mattered and the only control you have is of whether you survive til the next wave. The maps were designed to be.. sick and evil. I remember spawning into kino the first time, and immediately it resonates that feeling that you should not be here. Something is wrong, cursed, like you are always being stalked and are just waiting for death to appear out of nowhere. The new games simply do not share this feeling. Ever since BO3, they've been focusing on the eldrich side of zombies, margwas and weird undead mages that suck your soul out of your body. The zombies of the new games just feel like they have been summoned into an otherwise peaceful world. Their only goal being to kill you before being sucked back into the aether forever. The old games didn't do that. It actually felt like a dying world, collapsing societies. A place where you will simply become part of the design, whether it be sooner or later. Also, when you started talking about the value of music in the games, I'm a bit surprised you didn't go for the *LEGENDARY* 115 Kino easter egg. Once that song came on, I think everyone can agree that it was like activating godmode..

The intro reminded me when I used to play Bo2 zombies when I was younger. It brought me back to when I would try to play solo and tell myself "alright, time to go for a high round game" and get on transit, only to get scared after round 5 and ride on the bus for the rest of the game. good times.

Such a great video, thankfully the cod zombies content creators ain't dead yet

my brother you 100% correct with this video, I always struggled with the Five map when I was younger, because everytime I went to the lab level I always died, and I was so stressed progressing in this map

This was an amazing video explaining my childhood game ✨🤘🏽

dude ur right when i was 13yo, i was so scared to play zombies but that fear was the thing which excites the game horror experience, bo3 removed the horror and the zombies doesnt look horror at all, bo2 map mob the dead got the most scary zombies and for bo3 its gordd. For me bo3 zombies are peak and i enjoyed the 3 hit sys due to bad internet connection. i was always playing at 180ms and thats why i hated 2 hit sys. Still ur right on that part. GREAT VID

i remember when i was like 14 , i used to play a lot of buried solo, but i never really knew how to play the map so i'd just be around the first main areas, then in a multiplayer lobby i had 2 ppl open the witch house while i was still in the main area. when i saw those ghosts flying at me i felt a shiver down my whole body and insitctively turned off my tv in a flash. i had never felt so scared from a video game. i remember sitting there staring at the black screen wondering what had happened. probably the most a game has ever affected my emotional state ever

Biggest advantage early zombies had was the graphical limitation. Foggy and dark corridors, unclear objects in the distance, and gritty noises made for the perfect horror experience even for replay-ability. That’s not even touching the amount of comfort you have using field upgrades, a pistol with shatter blast that is stronger than most wonder weapons, and lethal like semtexs that are more convenient than monkeys. It is still fun for sure but it definitely takes the fear and anxiety factor away

0:40 - 1:56 describes me during the WAW era. I’ve only played zombies on my own once in my life. I was 9 yrs old and I’ve never tried to play on my own since.

When I first heard this zombie menu music back when I was a kid during BO1 it legitimately scared the shit out of me to even just listen to let alone play the game. This was back when the soundtrack to games and especially cod and zombies were actually very well thought out and executed

BRO THE VANOSS SLIPPED IN IS SO GENIOUS, I WATCHED THAT VID LAST NIGHT AND I GET THE JOKE UNFATHOMABLY

This is such an interesting video, as an older player I make the game harder by not buying jugg or avoiding the box, anxiety and risk lead to adrenaline to me because I know how to train. But when I was younger, anxiety just lead to fear because I didn't know how to train and I had no control over the game, I still had to learn. I still come back to this game after 12 years, black ops 1 and waw were peak zombies for me. bo3 is just an imitation and everything that followed it was a hollow husk.

This video was so well made

Music Easter eggs in the older titles were lit and you hit the nail on the coffin! Nothing like turning that music on round 30 something and go bat sh*t crazy 😂😂

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

Nah

Bro this vid is beautiful. I remember feeling every stage of these emotions as a kid when playing zombies now the zombies are scared of me lol

I love the older zombies songs and remember the positive impact that they caused my gameplay, but on bo4 there were some really fun songs that pumped me up a lot as well.

I still remember my first experience with cod zombies. It was with Shadows Of Evil. Imagine a grown ass teenager at 15 years old being scared of that map... imagine what WaW, bo1 or bo2 zombies would have done to me 😅 at the end of my first run I was so frightened that would not try playing zombies again for a whole month. As I got bolder I played more and realized it wasn't the monsters that scared me, actually was the constant anxiety of getting overwhelmed and downed by them. As I got more experienced I managed to reach higher rounds and eventually lose the fear, but the anxiety was still there. I knew that one mistake could be the end of the run (usually I wouldn't use quick revive), one wrong rotation, one unlucky zombie spawn, one panzer or meatball stun and it would be over. From round 20 I had to be on constant alert and that's why I feel in love for zombies, risk and reward (and the story as well of course)

In VR that anxiety is increased when you play solo cause it makes you feel like you're actually there in the bunker in Nacht Der Untoten. I played Zombies in VR and it's more terrifying since you're not playing on a TV screen but now you're technically physically there and it's you against the undead horde by yourself and you gotta reload guns yourself and do all the motions instead of pressing X to reload and the fact you can mess up the reload abd drop the clip makes you more anxious and scared

@WhiteVipor

7 ай бұрын

You play on Pavlov vr?? Zombies vr is way fun

@rogueraccoon1840

7 ай бұрын

@WhiteVipor nah I play on Contractors VR it's a lot better

@WhiteVipor

7 ай бұрын

@@rogueraccoon1840 imma have to look into that. Haven’t heard of it. Thanks man

@rogueraccoon1840

7 ай бұрын

@WhiteVipor I got a video of the game on my channel if you wanna see it. They recreated Town from BO2 zombies and it's amazing man. Plus you can duel wield Galvaknuckles and Rayguns

I remember when I had a few friends over and we switched off on zombies playing online. When one of our friends made it to round 30 we had never seen someone make it that far before and we were all so invested in how far he could get. This was right before they released the second map on WaW so we were all blown away lol

Such a nostalgic video. So good

@lazyvoid7107

7 ай бұрын

Toxic one

Well made video my guy!

Its funny, I see you on the WAW menu, picking a map to play. And I still feel the anxiety to this day. I know if I picked up a copy of World At War I’d avoid solo until I gathered up enough courage.