Wow. That was a beautiful photo of a Waygate. EXACTLY like I pictured it!

Ogier are the fantasy race I identify with most. Oh-GEER is how I always pronouced it too. Always sounds weird to me when someone calls Loial an "ogre"

For the sanctuary for male channelers during The Breaking, both views are correct - they saved the world from being completely destroyed in this time of madness by prolonging the duration that it took. It is like the survivability of multiple serious wound inflicted over the course of years vs having all injuries at once.

I decided I'm not reading the books but I love spoilers and love seeing the visual interpretation.

That's way more Ogier per Stedding than I ever imagined

An aspect of the stedding you missed is that creatures of the shadow (trollocs, myrdraal) cannot enter, and evil humans can enter but feel uncomfortable. As well, waygates shouldn't really be included under stedding, as the one power (even with the Talisman of Growing) was required.

@elisampley7598

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The ways could be grown without the OP with the Talisman. It's a ter' angreal and doesn't require power to use it. And shadowspawn will enter a stedding but it's about the hardest thing they can be forced to do. It does not prevent them from entering, they just fear it more than deep water. When Perrin and Egwene run into an empty stedding with Elyas I think in book 2 or 3 when they were being chased by ravens, he tells them they would have to be driven by myrdraal or the forsaken themselves to enter. And likely not even myrdraal because they don't like to enter either.

Can't wait to see the difference in the Deathwatch Gardeners and Loial when they show up. Cheers Jon

@WoTUp

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I just can't wait to see Loial!

Can’t wait to see the Ogier in the show! Especially my man Loial!

@JediMasterJinx

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Now that the show is out and we’ve seen Loial, what do you think?

Can’t wait to see them on screen!

Great 👍 thanks

Thanks Jon. Great video as always 👍🏻

I always wondered why didn’t the ogier open the book of translation during the breaking? If there’s anytime to bail on the hasty humans is when they are tearing the world apart.

Good video. I wonder if the Book of Translation is really a book or something like a key or other codex. Also, I wonder which stedding the Book of Translation is located. By the way. Many Blues believed that sheltering male channelers in the Steddings saved the world. Reds believed it prolonged the Breaking and made it worse.

The guideposts for the ways were not in the stedding, they were on platforms inside the ways at places where branches occurred.

I just finished TSR and have been reading ogier as ‘ogre’

Subbed!

If a Foresaken has access to the True Power and enters a Stedding, will he/she be able to sense or access the True Power?

@WoTUp

4 жыл бұрын

Great question! Luckily I know the answer. RJ has gone on record in 2005 to say they cannot.

All fine and dandy but Ogier in Polish means stallion. I'm polish my brain just keeps on giving when I hear this race's name.😂

I wondered about the Ogier who travel with the Seanchen. They seem the total opposite of the Ogiers of Westlands. Are you certain after the 7th turn of the wheel, it doesn't reset and man is given another chance to NOT repeat the previous pasts? I'd hate to live in a world where every 2-3 thousand years man repeats the same errors. It's a wash, rinse, repeat and reset cycles. How awful to know a Lews Theron will be born, with all rhe Forsaken and the wars will be fought, the world broken, the power tainted etc etc Ad infinitum. Depressing future

@elisampley7598

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The wheel takes 14 thousand years to turn once. Not 2-3

@carolbriscoe9337

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@@elisampley7598 so each turn is roughly of 2 thousand years duration. 7 turns of 2 thousand years. Ok the first 3 turns have been different, Lews is the first dragon. So once Rand defeats the Dark One is that the end of the age? Then the whole cycle repeats, Dark One escapes, Forsaken join him and a Lews battles him again?

@elisampley7598

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@CAROL BRISCOE well we know that the 2nd age is when he breaks out. The 3rd is when he is sealed. We know that in the 1st age was our time right now with no dark one. There are references to our age in the books, Sally Ride is a hero of theirs. The first woman to the moon. So some ages definitely have nothing to do with the DO like ours. I'd say that probably twice in 14k years he breaks out and is put back. And sometimes the Dragon is born as a woman, this is 100% legit and not speculation. Nakomi is likely the female version. I'd say each turning there is one man, and then one woman who fights him and restores balance. Each time separated by somewhere around 5 thousand years. With each having 2k (an age) years of him only partially sealed. So of the 14k years 10k are free of the DO, eventually leading people to forget about him between him breaking out. If he was ever present then the age of legends Aes Sedai would have been aware of him before they released him. They would not forget him in only 2k years. He has to be around so little in the turning that people eventually forget about him. But every turning he does come back at least once, but I think twice. RJ was very balanced when it came to men and women being in power. I think the next story would have Saidar being tainted and a female dragon having to cleanse it and battle him. Or something similar. But it is tragic that it happens over and over.

@elisampley7598

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@CAROL BRISCOE and yes when Rand defeats the DO its the beginning of a new age. Rand says this over and over. I don't want to spoil things if you haven't finished the series. But it's definitely the end of the age. That's also why the Ogier want to go back to their planet using the Book of Translation. They only exist in our world during certain ages. It's likely all ogier leave sometime with 100 years after the end of the series. Some speculate that it happens within 10 years of the end of the books. They have to because it's the will of the pattern during certain ages. They really are only around during the ages the DO exist.

@carolbriscoe9337

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@@elisampley7598 I'm currently reading book 11. I knew the Ogier weren't native to the planet, but I didn't realize they only visited when the DO was rising. Thanks for that info