Another great and informative video Joe! Thanks for the info 👌

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Keith Tierney thank you, appreciate you taking time to comment. Makes this all worth it. Take it easy and see you on the next video

Thanks man, was waiting for this vid, answered my questions about it. Keep up the good work man, appreciate your time put into this videos.

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+sebastian teulea I know you were. hey thanks for the support. It's what makes this all worth it

The blue stuff started off as balancing putty but got too hot and liquidated. You can see this stuff on most motors. If it has liquidated your motor is dead.

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah those evolve motors are junk. Never had an issue with racestar, even trying to blow them I couldnt

Do you know the size/model of the bearings between the sleeve and hall sensor unit? Great video btw

another good vid . I wanted to try and work on my evolve motor but couldn't because it would void the warranty. Glad you made this video for us. Thanks.

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Dusty Surfer ya within warranty your very limited as to what you can do

Thank you for the video I do have a question I stripped the inside of the motor where is attaches to the bracket any ideas on how to fix it?

@JoeKyser

5 жыл бұрын

Might be able to tap that. That's tough though. Especially with vibration.

Hi Joe, nice video, you tell many people how to choose the high quality motor for their electric skateboard. Welcome to compare Maytech motor also. Maytech 6355 closed cover motor with temperature detector on the hall pcb board. And pay more attention on all details :)

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Agnes Chen absolutely I guess I was making a comparison to evolve. is the walk down the stairs a technical issue with compatibility and the person replacing the motor would have to have that knowledge that's why I didn't get into it but I am going to make a video like that I am going to get into it explain exactly how the motors work and then explain those Hall sensors and show everyone how they can use a different motor say like maytech

Another good video bro

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+dark1000rr44615 thank you very much. hey without this comment section I wouldn't have any good ones at all! thank you very much

But if the clicking comes from the motor itself(in relation to another of your video) then the onoly way to get rid of the clicking sound is to rplace the motor bearing right? @JoeKyser

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Axel Teboul if it's none of the above and the motor is clicking, no you don't replace the bearing i the motor, you buy a new one. check out my video about the race Star Motors there's a link in the description where you can purchase them. I've actually set challenges to various professionals to show me a completely rebuilt motor and I put up a hundred bucks to see anybody out there do it. Even a professional wont be able to replace the bearings. The odds of it being a bearing failure are slim to none anyway. Ive replaced like 8 motors and it hasn't been a bearing yet.

What type of cleaner????

The outside shroud of my motor isn't spinning true and this is creating a wobble in my actual wheel. Is it possible to change the shroud with another same or is it stuffed?

@JoeKyser

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the actual outside can definitely be replaced. I mean the only way I would think of going as Maybe Cherokee and older one and using that I know you can't find it brand new. If it is wobbly, that would make me think it's the bearings or something

I disassembled Evolve faulty motor and everything looks fine. Supricely clean etc. I don’t understand why this thing stops working. Any ideas ? PS: I did that swap over test based on Evolves motor test video. Nothing. Still doesn't spin.

@jakeguest6810

4 жыл бұрын

Did u ever find out whats up

excellent video gotta love the passion! Awesome when we learn shit!! In regards to heating those gears to remove i've heard of people doing it for rc helis and will be able to use motor afterwards. heat quickly breaks that thread lock and then that set screw as well will be no issue. Let me know if you hear of M1 motor replacements, those bastards wanting 266.53 to ship ONE! What i have going on is one motor is sounding off, a bit of a matalic sound like something is riding metal on metal. I'm realling thinking it a bearing.

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

yeah problem with these are it takes a massive amount of heat. Yeah the rc ones ive meased with. Heck ive made my own. I have coil winders and crap in the shop for all different sizes. I tinker around a lot. Anyway if your taking the gear off, your probably not using that motor again. These motors really are not worth rebuilding. They are commercial junk. Now i have a set of hand wound ive been using and I will tinker with those eventually. They may be worth it.When I put the replacement gears on I use dual set screws with some blue locktite and have not needed any heat and never had any issues of it coming loose. They used some heavy duty glue or some crap Chinese throw aways really.

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

use racestar at the least. Ive never blown one yet. Blown 3 evolves at $220+ a pop

Hey Joe i have a question on the racestar motors. . . When you purchase lets say 2 of em do they come with the gears on em already or how do i get the old ones off? And do i get rge 140 kv of the 150? My evolve moter spins but the shaft is loose and the gears doesnt spin. . . Then if i hit the breaks it wont accelerate anymore.

@JoeKyser

5 жыл бұрын

no I've never had any that came with the gears so I'm going to assume that you're never going to get any with the gears on them. I have some links for the gears on eBay if you can't find them. the fastest and easiest way to get off the old gear is to take a propane torch and heat the shit out of that gear. It slips right off then. I dont even loosen the allen nut till i heat too. I usually heat it loosen the Allen nut and then heat the shit out of it again take a pair of pliers and pull it right off

@AlexGomez-mr9ps

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser yeah if you could shoot me the link please because i think im gonna need new motors. Do you got any ideas why the motor moves and the shaft and gear dont.

@JoeKyser

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlexGomez-mr9ps if i saw a video or something i probably could tell you. Sounds like they lost contact inside. Not sure. In the description of this video is all sorts of links. I made them last year but checked a few and they look good still. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWaTttmafbu1h8o.html

@AlexGomez-mr9ps

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser thanks man. . All your videos have been alot of help. . . But im purchasing the racestar 140kv motors. What Gears do you recomend i use in your opinion.? Or try to re-use the old ones?

Hey hey Joe )) yes!!! .. nailed it again )) you are Da Man .... well done )) loved it ... now there's things I didn't know ))) cheers Keep 'em coming )) Andrew )(

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Penman thank you sir

@zulupenman

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Joe Kyser ... no thank you !!!! and a big thank you for all my subs as well they're talking about you on my comment threads you're becoming "the go to guy" for every possible complicated issue on electric skateboards and internal hub motors that is awesome Joe congratulations)) cheers Bro ) Andrew )(

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

Andrew Penman my ears are ringing haha

I had a broken bearing first month I had my bamboo GT... luckily Evolve replaced the whole engine

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+David Thielemans holy smokes! i thought i broke the bearings in my evolve motors, turned out it was the dust cover that snapped off. ya that was an evolve motor i was holding. i did thay 3 times. switched to racestar and it never happened again. After the first motor I tried to make a warranty claim but well ya thats the video where i show they accidentally let me see the back office chatter and made the "evolves response" video. they claimed i had to of used it outside of their suggested use and wouldn't replace it but sold me a motor for $210. Then two more times. Like an idiot i paid up. Well yeah i will back the other guy any day since evolve did me like that. The owner actually emailed me and told me to call him after i made that video. He specifically said he cant wait for my phone call and they want to be sure their customers are taken care of. Im not a sell out and wasn't looking for a free handout. I make my videos as real as i can. I try to let fact take over. I try haha. sorry for the rant. i guess this is all stuff i would like to say but keep my trap shut. I would like to think that anybody that came after me got treated differently and that's enough to satisfy me and keep my trap shut. I cant support their motors though. Not after my experience with them. Is what it is.

Can u show how u install a new gear to the motor? Thanks

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Robin Schaefer absolutely

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

shoot took me forever to find our last conversation. so i saw your name and just use this one. did you get it yet? i had clicking today on my board and it wasnt the gear or motor. but anyway i got the new stainless steel grub screws in. works perfect and you can use two of them. crank one down and then set one right on top too. it will never come out then. 3mx2.5

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

My clicking was from the hub gear bearing. i made a video about "evolves clicking" and what some possible trouble areas could be. Hope all is well and you figure it out buddy. lmk if you need any more help i got you

@BG-yk9fk

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser What's the video's URI on the World Wide Web?

@JoeKyser

5 жыл бұрын

@@BG-yk9fk kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXllsaikmrWfdrQ.html

The reason I was interested in the disassembly was to examine the possibility of introducing a hydrophobic coating. In a future video series on our channel I'm going to examine the practicalities of weatherproofing components. Obviously with the exposed motors, this is going to have it's limits as the hydrophobic coatings aren't designed to be durable on moving parts, but in the short term it may work out well. Only testing will tell. Thanks for the disassembly video as well as sharing the motor specs.

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

+Twelve Wing Productions thats super interesting for sure. if you need anymore help just let me know I can take pictures I have Motors already disassembled whatever you need just let me know

@twelvewingproductions7508

6 жыл бұрын

I'm looking into a combination approach at the moment. One solution is to use a marine water treatment.. more of a water displacing lubricant called Nanoprotech for the motors. That way anyone can do a non invasive application to the motors themselves by spraying it directly into the motors without disassembly. The second element is to use a 2 part hydrophobic spray on the speed controller and BMS. This isn't designed to allow the board to run underwater but instead is based more for those instances where you do find yourself caught in the rain or even in the case of a catastrophic immersion. The chance is that if the board is opened up and the water removed/absorbed.. it won't be a total loss. I'll let you know what I come up with and post a link to the video. I'm still doing some initial experimentation with various wheel and gear combinations to sort out max ranges for variations of the weight of the riders.

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

+Twelve Wing Productions well one thing I know is these manufacturers out there have boards that they claim are waterproof. so what they have done is made the enclosures for the motor such as the Hub or the cover for the electronics waterproof. once you start using the board once you maintenance the board the waterproof factor completely disappears because of the fact that the electronic components themselves are not waterproof. No one has actually taken that time uet. We see potted motherboards. seald motherboards ect. a lot of people think that they do that to waterproof it I mean a lot of people think that and I know better I know it's for vibration so the parts don't vibrate off the board. Consumers are fooled lets say. What your talking about is addressing the root of the solution for sure. Not an easy task to take on. Sounds totally awesome. Im following what your saying. If you need help let me know dinary

@twelvewingproductions7508

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Once a manufacturer decides to do a water proof enclosure what they find is that it's incredibly expensive to do it right and not something someone is likely to do with a skateboard. My goal in this is simply to showcase some of the options out there. I also see what you are saying about people being fooled. Either they do it themselves by not understanding the results of water incursion or by being fooled by unscrupulous and spurious claims by manufacturers. Thanks for the offer of assistance. Always good to have someone to talk to that has previously cracked into an Evolve board.

Keep it up !!

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

thanks you!

Hey Joe. Has anyone used the racestars on a GTR yet. One of my motors is making a clicking noise and evolve won't replace it because I bought the board on eBay. I know the connections are different..

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are different. thats a real good question there. the last time I check a few months back, there was no other options. I wish I had a GTR just to tinker with. I have not been active on social media with ES8 lately so I have not had any repairs come through. I usually get to get a good idea of boards I dont have when they send them in to get fixed. Ive help develop some of these aftermarket parts. I should step back in this and figure some shit out. After years Im actually taping some more content. Let me reach out to some people and see if there is any good news I can give you. Because its evolve I doubt I will have any but I will see

@Irpilot

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser cool. Thanks. Just ordered some so I'll try to figure it out on my side too

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

@@Irpilot yeah keep in touch, i bet I can help figure it out. The hall sensors are going to be the tricky part. I bet evolve has placed them in an odd fashion and programmed the esc to correspond this way it would make it more proprietary than just the plug. Thats my best guess because thats what I see a lot. I converted an evolve using their battery and deck and wheels to use universal hardware. Im about to do another one the same way. Worst case you can always do that. Its a project but in the long run if you dont want to pay evolve replacement parts price, its a good idea and investment.

@Irpilot

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser ok might hit you up on the conversion once the evolve motor dies.

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

@@Irpilot ok no problem. I updated the description so my current details are there. Just in case I dont answer in a message on here. I get a ton of them, dozens a day, and sometimes I just dont see them all

What's the life span?? And how douse it compare to boosted boareds?? I'm on the fence about witch one to get cuz idk witch one will last

@JoeKyser

5 жыл бұрын

Like how far can it go or actually how long will it hold up for? They are comparable either way. Most people when shopping look for how far it will go and how fast. Its really the wrong way to shop for these. I would ask how much are you going to use it? Where exactly are you going to use it? Also what kind of customer support will you need and will you ever need parts? Boosted is a consumers company and koowheel isnt. Now evolve can be if they want to but you pay dearly for it. As compared to boosted they want to help you take care if your board

@TowerCrisis

5 жыл бұрын

Don't get an evolve... They're notorious for having remote disconnects, horrible customer service, and having the brakes lock up when riding. You should read up on this: www.reddit.com/r/ElectricSkateboarding/comments/8g352i/why_i_am_done_with_evolve_skateboards/

Great video, thanks for the info. How did the base of your motor snap off? It really does look like cheap pot metal :/

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+southpaw that one there broke just from handling it making videos with it and all but yrs its cheap metal. wasn't hard to break that's for sure

@cubiq1

7 жыл бұрын

Bummer. I guess for $50 we can't really expect high end quality. What are the most common types of failures you've had with these Evolve/Racestar motors? Keep up the great videos man.

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+southpaw well the last said I put on there I haven't had failure yet typically in the amount of time I've had one I would have least gone through to sets. I even stopped taking care of it I stopped using the electrical parts cleaner I mean I really wanted to see if it's going to hold up and how long. I just can't seem to kill them. the only issues I've ever had is with dust and dirt. it's when I didn't take care of them and keep them clean, they just start seizing up. actually now that I think about it all the race stars that I took off still actually worked they just made different sort of loud sound. I went to say grinding but you could hear like it was working harder than it should be. with the Evolve Motors my very first one just pretty much fell apart. I'd wire sticking out the back of it. actually when I sent the picture to evolve, they told me they're not going to honor the warranty because there's a stick stuck in my motor. I was so pissed off I was like blow it up it's not a stick idiot they are wires look closer. they were like we never saw anything like that we don't know what you did to it and I said the same thing I never saw anything like this I don't know what you guys sold me lol.

@cubiq1

7 жыл бұрын

Lol you should become a test rider for Evolve. It sure sounds like you put your gear through its paces! Are the insides of the Evolve and Racestar motors identical? From the outside they look no different (other than the color.....)

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

they do look identical and they weigh the same. it seems as though the inside is a little different looking though. the evolves look cheap put together with different looking resin. they dont want me at evolve :(

what are the type of bearings inside the motor itself ? Are they the same 608 type ? From what I understand there are a total of 3 bearings per motor correct ? One close to the gear which is a regular 608, and two inside the motor itself which I'm wondering what they are. Can you help ? Thanks man, great video

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

Jason_Music yes yes there are two inside. They are tiny and looks just like the usual 608s but is maybe half the size. Then there is a sleeve it travels in I suppose to make sure the shaft stays perfectly straight. No friction on it so I wouldn't call it a bearing but it does hug the shaft. I had packed up the shop for renovations or else I would take a picture for you.

@Jason_Music

6 жыл бұрын

I see thanks. Would be nice to know the type of those 2 inside bearings. In short the outside bearing close to the gear is easily accessible and quite easy to replace. However, the 2 inside bearings require more complicated steps I think to replace, like unsolding few pins and all.

@Jason_Music

6 жыл бұрын

Any news on the type of bearings inside ? Thanks man

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

Jason_Music Oh did you want the size? Just a little FYI. The bearing quality far exceeds the the motor quality itself. There is no upgrade. If thats what your thinking. Ive already explored this if thats why your asking. The actual size of the bearing, not sure to be honest. Bit they are super high quality. Never going to blow them out.

@Jason_Music

6 жыл бұрын

Oh THX, Alright good to know. I'll juste replace the side bearing then. You rock man thanks for all those nice vids !

good video joe

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

FPV UMBRA thanks buddy

cool

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+SheSkates 926 :)

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+SheSkates 926 :)

You should do a giveaway for that…

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+Storm-Burst whats that the motor? lol

will pick up a few cans of cleaner now.

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+ajdahun its the very best thing you can do

the blue goo is for balancing

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

+niklaus stöckli ah ok and i suppose then all of it doesn't cure sometimes leading to failure. Just like te epoxy resin holding the windings together. I've taken apart Motors that have had resin that look like it didn't cure all the way and failed as well. That's priceless info there. Thanks a million!

@stocklitv1371

6 жыл бұрын

put arctic silver past on betwen the motor and the motor holder..... so your motors not get so hot......

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

niklaus stöckli i’ve never had any issues with any motors getting hot besides the Evolve but I’m not sure that was the issue. Honestly I really don’t know. Those are the only motors I’ve ever had trouble with actually

@stocklitv1371

6 жыл бұрын

my racerstar motor is much more cooler now + i sanded down the rezin from the motor and holder for better heat transmission......sorry for my english im from switzerland lol kzread.info/dash/bejne/mX2gtJiIaarYdKg.html

@JoeKyser

6 жыл бұрын

+niklaus stöckli shoot your English is excellent. don't apologize for that ever! I totally appreciate this video you linked me to. Super interesting that's for sure. at some point I was actually going to do some official heat testing and try some different things out I've never really got around to it. Heat is a culprit no doubt.

boosted board motor bearings keep failing

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

Ut oh, that's not good!

@ambroisevalet

4 жыл бұрын

So if someone could find a way to easily take that pinion off and open the motor to replace them everynow and then

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

A good set of bearings will outlast the motor itself. They must have had some duds bro. Email me with some pictures. I'm sure I can help out thebrokerscollection@gmail.com

@ambroisevalet

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoeKyser I haven't openned the motor yet, the pinion is stuck on the shaft. I 'll cut it off with a grinder when I have time. You can look it up on youtube Boosted Board Motor noise. Bearings fail and it wears out the shaft

@ambroisevalet

4 жыл бұрын

actually i figured it out you just press hold the pinion and hammer to stator it comes off easy peasy

Evolve charges twice what two of these motors cost

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i know before i knew better i had bought 3 motors from them at over $200 a pop. They sucked. I bought two of these for under $100 and never needed any new motors again. Go figure

@enjoyesk8978

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Kyser first of all thank you for the videos you’ve done. Evolves customer service is horrible. I bought a bamboo gtx and put about 30 miles on it and the garbage esc went bad. I got it back and rode another 20 miles or so and a motor stopped working. They wouldn’t work with me at all. Sent me a link to purchase one of their motors I can get for 1/4 the price elsewhere. So I put the board to the side and worked on my build. Bustin nomad board, evolve trucks (now I’ve been buying ownboard which are $75 shipped, half the price of evolve) ABEC 11 107mm wheels, flipsky dusk vesc 4.20, Psychotiller enclosure, Maytech on/off power switch, custom made 10s4p 10Ah battery pack with BMS for charge only, Oldboy ceramic bearings, xt 90 connectors (antispark) and flipsky vx1 remote. I spent way less to build a board at that time and with higher quality parts. Now you can get a board equivalent or better than a evolve for half the price. All in all it’s way more enjoyable for me to build and I’ve learned a lot from watching videos like you have posted and others in the esk8 community.

@enjoyesk8978

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Kyser have you been riding?

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

@@enjoyesk8978 every day

@JoeKyser

4 жыл бұрын

@@enjoyesk8978 I know I really want to make some more videos I had plenty of projects around here that I can get into I haven't really tinkered around with anything lately but yeah I ride every single day always have been years now. I have a daily routine that i use the electric skateboard for. If its raining big bummer you know

I want one😞

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

+MattsPlanet. TV Im going to address that in a video here at some point. I want to be able to hook you guys up that's for sure

@mattdieffenbach3430

7 жыл бұрын

Joe Kyser ok it would mean the world to me if I could get one btw did u see my recent lol😂😂

We're can I get these race star Motors from could you give me the website so I can buy one 👍🏿🛹 plz get back to me mate

cool

@JoeKyser

7 жыл бұрын

:)