I don't care how they will look, what matters is that they care about patients, too many recent events like doctors refusing to treat patients or even euthanasia on patients to make bed space in the hospital are disturbing

@Hallowed_Ground

10 жыл бұрын

morning morality A game of chest? It's chess. The power computing power to replicate a human mind is beyond us, although I do realize you wouldn't necessarily need to replicate a human mind to be diagnosed by a computer. The biggest factor is funding. And a huge part of why these things are so expensive is because there are monopolies in the health care industry. Big companies don't really care for new and emerging technologies that can potentially damage their ability to harvest money from the people so effectively. This is why most of the not-so-expensive health care plans won't pay for the chiropractor they would rather wait until you are injured and give you pills and send you to physical therapy instead of dealing with the root cause. Not to mention doctors receiving payouts from big pharmo companies. Do me a favor and look up the statistics about how many people are on what drugs and in what age groups, it's disgusting. They would rather give pills than encourage fitness and reduced air pollution levels and GREATLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF FOOD THAT POOR PEOPLE CAN AFFORD. On a per calorie basis, diets composed of whole grains, fish, and fresh vegetables and fruit are far more expensive than refined grains, added sugars and added fats. It’s not a question of being sensible or silly when it comes to food choices, it’s about being limited to those foods that you can afford. And btw using movies as an example for something like this is silly. There's a lot more to this than computers being smarter than us.

@Hallowed_Ground

10 жыл бұрын

morning morality Good, I'm glad we came to an agreement than..

@ijbdawg9

10 жыл бұрын

Hey, why so serious(insert troll face here).

@Hallowed_Ground

10 жыл бұрын

ijbdawg9 I get worked up when it comes to stupidity lol. It's my downfall.

@nofearofwater

10 жыл бұрын

ijbdawg9 (insert overused never funny meme here)

"hello Im the doctor""doctor...who?""exactly"

I was at the ER for the first time last night and having a human talking to me was definitly a relief and was nice to have some conversation

Not wearing a white coat and looking at gadgets never hurt anyone on Star Trek, so i say go for it

I'm with Anthony on this one. If I saw my doctor walk in wearing a casual shirt, I'd have a hard time trusting him as a professional. It would be like having a lawyer without a suit and tie, or an accountant without a messy office.

@Hallowed_Ground

10 жыл бұрын

As +Jan Škopek said (hope that works lol) the appearance of a doctor is a superficial issue when compared to transmitting of virus and flu on the sleeves. And I don't think being nervous at the doctors is caused by the outfit the doctor is wearing heh... Rather it's the environment as a whole.

NHS doctors already wear blue uniforms with short sleeves.

I went to see a doctor once & the guy literally googled stuff. Really didn't inspire much confidence.

I don't care if they are wearing lab coats or polo shirts, as long as they provide the healing treatments when needed.

its not really the stress of seeing a doctor, its the stress of finding you have something wrong - and hospitals in general

As a med student, I'm all for short sleeves and more technology. Medicine has a lot of problem advancing for the reluctance of both medical experts and patients. Medicine is said to be the most "humane" of sciences, and people have internalized that humanism means direct physical contact; and medicine means white coats.

my doctor will look like a sim ????

"Hey wassup yo! Nice Jordan outfit man. Them kicks and that throwback lookin good" "Hey thanks! Now roll up your sleeve please." "Whoa man, I don't swing that way. I'm just waiting for my doctor." "I am your doctor." "Word?" And that folks is everyone's future hospital experience in a nutshell.

My doctor wheres a snazzy vest with suspenders.

My doctor will always look like Matt Smith!

My Dad never uses the white coats. The kids get scared.

Didn't realize Anthony was a Night Vale fan. Awesome.

Nice to know you like Welcome to Nightvale Anthony!

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS ISN'T ABOUT DOCTOR WHO

I like my doctor's blue coat. Like Beverly crusher

I'm all for a computer giving me a ballpark diagnosis that a human pins down all before even going into the clinic! Going to the doctor is such a pain, and then sometimes you didn't really need to go at all.

@TorchyThePyro

10 жыл бұрын

***** That was kinda mean, wasn't it?

@TorchyThePyro

10 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there.

@Crick1952

10 жыл бұрын

I agree, if there was an online service that was connected to a computer like Watson, that would eliminate many needless visits.

@TorchyThePyro

10 жыл бұрын

I heard A while ago about some experimental doctor thing that you plug into a USB and you touch a pad, and is supposed to cure you, idk.

Anything to make doctors more efficient, I'd say. Hell, I expect the same level of trustworthiness from my doctor as I do from my tattoo artist, and his work clothes are usually a t-shirt and baggy camo pants. As have been said before, the clothes doesn't make the man (and in my book, that includes doctors as well). Trust should be 100% earned (in the case of doctors, through the power of their education and prior practice), not projected through their garments. As for using machines to get a rough diagnosis and saving the doctor some time... I'm all for it, as long as there's a qualified healthcare professional acting as a buffer between that machine and the treatment I'm receiving. We're not technologically advanced enough to completely entrust machines with something as important as our healthcare... yet.

As a future med student I'm kind off bummed out with that proposal because I really wanted to wear a white coat! Maybe it's a little silly but that's just my own personal nonsense and can see why people would want to change that. As for the tech side I can also agree that although it can help is is still very important to have that "human side" in medicine where the doctors interact with their patients.

I personally like more casually dressed doctors, it gives the visit a much more human feel and makes, at least me, feel a lot more relaxed.

untill just now i thought both of them were the same guy.

@ConcaveEarth100

10 жыл бұрын

You may have prosopagnosia.

Eh!? No more cool white labcoats? Fuck this, I'll become a stripper instead.

I came from that SourceFed video. I've seen other times you were on, but never clicked the link in the description till today. First episode here, and lovin it so far.

I may not be an MD, but after having spent hundreds of hours volunteering as a translator at free health clinics I've definitely seen "white coat syndrome" in action. Personally I'm skeptical about whether changing a doctor's uniform is going to solve the issue. It might help somewhat, but even with the most friendly doctors dressed in more casual clothing many people often get nervous during medical examinations. For many patients often just knowing that they're being evaluated by someone with a lot of experience and education who could potentially be making important and/or costly choices about their health can send people's blood pressure way up. Having said that, the more clear-cut sanitation benefits are obviously worth it and I suppose that even if it only helps a small amount of people not be misdiagnosed with high blood pressure that can only be a good thing.

I used to think these two were the same person. When one says "Trace" or "Anthony" I'd think they were talking about themselves. Was mind blowing to see them both at once.

Anthony and Trace at the same time! More pls! :D

aw but the labcoats were the best!

My general practitioner still wears a white coat, but I have noticed that Doctors in the ER wear short sleeved scrubs. The last time I was there, they still used stethoscopes,

I definitely think doctors should have contact with patients personally, though the amount of contact is up for debate. I feel like using the computer to get the probabilities would be fine, as long as the doctor tells the patient the final results in person, as well as performing any examinations that may need to be done. I'm fine with doctors shucking the lab coats. I'm pretty sure mine just wears slacks and a button-up shirt, anyway.

This is a really interesting development... that I had trouble paying attention to because ANTHONY IS WEARING A WELCOME TO NIGHT VALE TEE!

A computerized doctor that evaluated based on previous medical history is great in theory, but in practice, when a doctor evaluates a patient post "computer exam," you've got expect a high rate of confirmation bias (unless it's a double blind). Seeing results often make you look for those symptoms, rather than starting at 0 and diagnosing traditionally.

Computers may be good doctors in the future, but currently they learning how to walk of two feet.

But what if Watson for some reason crashes or something happens to the system, i don't know yet i know people make mistakes but i don't trust that much in computers either, well it would be great to see this implemented in more places to see how it works and what gets out of it.

What one doctor will look like in the future: Me

@nervozaur

10 жыл бұрын

If you're in med school, good for you. Don't let us down.

@drakhilmaheedhar4822

10 жыл бұрын

Mihai-Ciprian Ghilinta hey friend, just imagine if health get affected, i mean over ruled by tech. What about other professions. No more loop holes are there for their existence. Engineers, pilots, clerks, attendants, etc everybody will squeezed out one day from their professions , in which were medical doctors and some scientists cud be their to say. But sure if like so, they too will vanish for sure. Its not make anybody down, perhaps, Thinking against thinking cud solve a bit...! , try to solve & protect amazing life...!! ,Mentioned as a pledge. Bye

I can't see things like the stethoscope being replaced. It can be augmented with a further device, but not replaced. We do not want doctors that know more about the graphic interface of their smart heart device than they do about the actual S1 and S2 sounds of a healthy heart's "lub-dub" sounds. Medical progress is not to be measured in how many patients a doctor can visit within an hour. Instead, this kind of device is a progress towards the capitalistic commercialization of medicine. More patients seen per hour = more money. There is no way I would ever consider going to a doctor that doesn't even have the appropriate training to use a stethoscope, his own ears, and his medical knowledge (knowledge from his human brain... NOT from his GoogleGlass) to diagnose a murmur or arrhythmia. I love this technology revolution we are having but there is simply no replacement for good old fashioned medical practice that allows the doctor to make direct assessment of the patient. A digital stethoscope will never replace a standard percussive stethoscope. A digital thermometer (which relies on accurate programming) will never replace a mercury thermometer (which works on immutable physical laws). Etc Etc.

@EricJW

10 жыл бұрын

I sort of agree with you, but at the same time, I can't help but think the same sort of reaction happened at the time of the stethoscope's invention. "What new confabulation is this? Stethoscopes? Heresy! We wants our doctors focused on us, not some new-fangled gadgetry!" In the end, I have to stress that these are all just tools to gather information and as radical as some of the new stuff may seem, it's really just a new source of information to add into the arsenal. If the new arrangement doesn't improve things, we can always drop it. Also, a digital thermometer may be more fundamentally removed from the actual temperature measurement versus a mercury thermometer, but it doesn't change the fact that the digital thermometer is still a reliable way to read temperature and can be read with greater precision over analog varieties.

@fullyawakened

10 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with everything you said, but I think that some technologies create a potential where a doctor might not be required to learn basic skills such as heart monitoring with their own ears. My concern is that with a big corporation sponsoring the use of a device like this that it might not be easily dropped from practice despite it's potential hazards. I see a future where a doctor is only useful in the context of his machines, with no real skills of his/her own. Combine that practice with a typical emergency like a major power outage and you have a hospital full of machines and doctors that are completely useless in the time when you need them most. So I am all for this stuff as an augmentation to real skills, but definitely not to replace hands-on medical practice.

the casual atmosphere would make me less stressed and more relaxed...

You two should do more videos with the two of you.

I have found that so far having a doctor wearing more casual clothing is much less stressful. As for having a computer as a doctor--or at least a preliminary doctor before human input--is good as it may be even easier for someone to talk to a suped-up cleverbot. We may even need them more now so that human doctors can help more people and even break language barriers in foreign countries.

I feel better when I see the doctor

The last time I saw a doctor, he was dressed casually, he brought out his smartphone, and showed me photos of what to watch out for, in case it was something worse than what it actually was. It's probably for the best, because the pharmacist said something along the lines of "Well, if it *is* that, this stuff will make it much worse, so at least you'll know pretty soon."

"Dr.Watson, what do you think about this poor chap?" "Gangrene of the foot, 98%" "Aha, the game is afoot"

Awesome shirt Anthony! Night Vale ftw

Super accurate! awesome! The bad thing is that some people might loose their jobs...

I think the appearance of a doctor is rather superficial issue

I'm sort of scared of the fact that it would be a robots mathematics determining my health. Then again, I've been watching a lot of Doctor Who lately so...

As someone who wants to go into pediatrics, I'd rather connect with my patients more, but I may use the technology occasionally

The appearance doesn't change the profession or the doctor's skill.

their is lab coats that are much shorter up to your elbows and barely longer than a suit jacket as for stethoscope they are not much used and if we need them they are hanged all over the hospital but I don't really think we would stop using them for a long time yet though these small Ultrasound look cool and useful throatily

sounds amazing!! I look forward to it.

awesome Night Vale tee!

The woman on the thumbnail is "cyber woman with corn" haha

In Belgium the doctor wears a blue uniform with a long blue coat with short sleeves and green rubber gloves.

How computer doctors will really work : The Two Ronnies - The Fully Automated Surgery

I don't like the idea of people talking to a computer and it making a diagnosis. I am studying vet and we have had it grilled into our heads on the importance of making a patient and client comfortable. But not only that, with the answers the client gives you, you adapt your questions and feel the patient through palpation and other physically demanding methods in order to get a good diagnosis and I feel talking to a computer would really lack that

I think that even if doctors get rid of the labcoat, that we'll still get tense upon being in the hospital with one.

I don't understand, why is the fact that it's a screen increasing the time Doctors look at it? The information is the same whether or it's on a screen or it's in a folder :/

Am I the only one that realized that the thumbnail is the cyber corn lady?

As a professional of the medical field I do agree that futuristic gadgets could help quite a lot in the delivery of health care of each patient; however, a human being should never be replaced with a machine. Computers could make faster decisions and perhaps even give more accurate diagnosis, but there are so many more details about a career in medicine that I strongly believe that the use of computers and robots will result in a disaster. A computer is still very primitive when compared to a human brain. I am sure that any person who has worked in health care field will agree with me.

Wait, wait.... Dr. Watson?

What about hand-held MRIs?

The thought of robot doctors kinda scares me! I just do not want technology to get ahead of itself, I'd so also feel more comfortable in a room with a professional looking one too :)

I need rehab, all I heard was: Dr. Watson and The Doctor.

@abelyung5123

10 жыл бұрын

I know, the word Doctor will never be the same. Ever.

Considering expirience with doctors so far i would take my chances with watson any day

Sleeveless lab coats? Eh? Badass doctors ftw

I wouldn't mind a more casual looking doctor who relies more on computer technology. . (also, lovin' that Night Vale shirt ;])

doctors miss things all the time, it happened to me! i had to get severely sick before i got the right blood work i could have died!! so i think a robot would have done a much better job at diagnosing before things got worse!

i am enjoying that NightVale shirt XD

Put Watson capabilities publicly available through online web page, so people could manage themselves their health issue

So basically we're going to have star trek doctors? SIGN ME UP!

I agree with Anthony. It's called a hospital for a reason. If we lose the human side of it, we lose the sense of hospitality!

@RedCoyote

10 жыл бұрын

I think you're logic--whilst the direction is clear--is flawed. The Latin root "hospes" that is in both words just means a stranger or foreigner. So in hospitality it becomes being kind to strangers while in hospitals it becomes healing strangers. On a side note though, I just want the crazy costs of hospital visits to go down in the US. Maybe having something like an AI like Watson giving a broad diagnosis will cut down the price of visits in some way.

@VCheesey

10 жыл бұрын

Go to a hotel than.

I'm afraid the human doctor well mostly be obsolete in the future, following a majority of today's jobs all made possible by the all evolving automation. Watson 7.0 will be such a competent doctor and human impostor that hospitals that want to compete on the market to stay alive will have to buy these types of robots or go bankrupt.

Did anyone else take the time to read Anthony's shirt?

I would like the EMH from star trek voyager

Doctors not in white coats, using gadgets and screens? The days of Starfleet just keep getting closer and closer....

How about sleeveless lab-coats?

Aren't the radio waves of electronics the catalyst of some cancers?

I have the whitecoat syndrome thing

They better start going sleeveless. I want my doc to look like the Hulkster.

I think lightworkers will become more reliable doctors of the future because they heal the client on a spiritual level which transforms all the other parts of that person into their natural state of happiness.

Speaking as a medical student, I feel that the job of a physician is dying out. Objectively speaking, I can't see human doctors in the future since computers are much less fallible. But then again, I don't think there it will carry completely through, just because of that "human touch."

OMG Night Vale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No because so many things could go wrong with a computer it could lose power and I just feel more comfortable with a human doctor

I want all doctor in the future looks exactly like Leonard McCoy

Once I was at the doctors and the doctor came my heart felt like I was running he said my blood pressure was off the charts. WELL NO SHIT. I has to take medicine for weeks. It made my blood pressure go down.

Night Vale!!!

And now... The weather.

Are you sure my doctor in the future doesn't live in a blue box with a weird screwdriver?

@Itssamrose

10 жыл бұрын

Im scared....

I don't mind of how the doctor looks as long he/she isn't a robot because I feel like the robot would be like, oh no we have to cut off your arm now and I'll be like, it's just cut a little bit and broken no need to cut it off! To late the surgery is done. NOOOOO!!!!

My Doctor will sound Scottish, he will live in a blue box that can travel through time. he will wear a long sleeve dark blue jacket over a white button-up shirt. I'll begin seeing him this August.

I feel like when ever my doctor is filling out an electronic medical record he has a certain skill to it. he can type and and talk to me while typing which impresses me all the time. It all depends on the doctor

I'm in favor of "de-clinical-izing" health care. White suits and walls do seem rather intimidating. More color and designs look a lot warmer and more inviting.

Worked for McCoy... I guess.

this is so wrong. everyone knows the best diagnosis & treatment advice you can possibly get comes from posting your symptoms on a random web forum. also, the "talk to watson while the doctor uses intuition" bit, reminded me of the "hes in-scanable" scene from idiocrasy

Is the Watson Computer named after Dr. John Watson?

Reminds me of the hospitals in Idiocracy

That's not werid to me my family doc always wore pollos :)

Ehh...if I wanted a computer to check my symptoms and give me a diagnosis, I'd go to Web MD