Imagine having a government who was willing to fight to the death to protect your culture, instead of actively doing everything possible to destroy it. This actually sounds like paradise to me.

@theobroma7755

6 ай бұрын

But Nazis tried to eliminate big parts of German culture and to replace them with their inferior ideology.

@_biz_

6 ай бұрын

What drugs you on

@AK-vs9nr

6 ай бұрын

Shhhhhhhh dont tell 'em.... they wont understand yet. We need a few more years until ppl wake the hell up.

@longiusaescius2537

6 ай бұрын

oy vey..

@diegotrejos5780

6 ай бұрын

Imagine having a government willing to kill 6 million peoples including 20 million slavs for a delusion.

You forgot one important detail: A channel on youtube called 'Zvallid' would post a video titled 'What would happen if Allies won WW2?'.

@edmundblackaddercoc8522

5 ай бұрын

Is it still up?😂

@blakepollock8074

5 ай бұрын

Considering that there might not even be an internet in this timeline, probably not

@RaidenTheRipper950

5 ай бұрын

"The World would become degenerate."

@vicentedacosta

5 ай бұрын

Not KZread. More likely something like DeinTube😂

@jpmonkman

4 ай бұрын

Better ....much better still having proper morale values!

"Call of Duty" would've been "Call of the Reich"

@joemana-mj3ro

Ай бұрын

i wonder if wolfenstein would been different?

@darko7mc186

Ай бұрын

​@@joemana-mj3ro Wolfenstein would make the N*zis look good this time. Unlike in Canon where they made the N*zis as bad people as they are in real life.

@Samhobenji

Ай бұрын

@@joemana-mj3ro It would be "Westminster" with Churchill and mecha queen Elizabeth ii

@rogerlynch5279

Ай бұрын

@@joemana-mj3roShurly not the Ad Clips to Part 1 and 2 and CHANGEOVER DAY might had become true. as wll as the CHANGEOVER DAY Game Show KZread: Bethesda/Wolfenstein 2/"Gameshow", put on lthe Net by spotwelders, But I had sent the " QUIZZMASTER " then as well to "RE-EDUCATION", instead of RICHTIG he wrongly used the Noun RECHT ( 0:38 in the clip )

@joemana-mj3ro

Ай бұрын

@@rogerlynch5279 what the fuck are you yapping about💀

Italy was part of the axis, at least you’d have good food

I cannot help but feel like this would be the most realistic version of an axis victory world, unlike all those hyper-dystopian scenarios usually presented.

@poopman4263

6 ай бұрын

true except germans pushing to urals, or the germans getting to the AA line at all in the ussr, Stalin wouldn’t have given up, and the germans wouldn’t have tigers or leopards, as they wouldn’t have met the soviet t-34 in battle yet. There would probably be a german aligned western europe , but not directly allied. Hitler would definitely dominate northern and eastern europe, but italy would probably split off from hitler and the Nazis as they did not agree with their racial ideas, and form their own block. On top of that (this is getting drawn out) Nazi germany’s economy would collapse shortly after the war, as the german economy was built entirely on war and prolonging of paying of loans. The cold war would be short lived.

@Luke_05

6 ай бұрын

Literally this is the best one I’ve seen

@etwasgutes3553

6 ай бұрын

What do you have against the" The germans take Europe and then Asia and Africa with Japanese to then wipe out the Americas" scenarios?

@googlestinkt5184

6 ай бұрын

First of all there wouldnt be mass migration right now

@TonyGModesto

6 ай бұрын

Nazi Germany likely would have collapsed within a decade. It’s entire societal model was unsustainable.

Its unrealistic that Finland would not regain former territories and more of Karelia. They were a German ally in our timeline and would ally with Germany in this timeline as well.

@perttiprutkula461

6 ай бұрын

Finland has its former territories in the map

@palious13

6 ай бұрын

Technically incorrect. They were not a German ally, they were a cobelligerent. It's a samall difference, but an important one.

@Dinoface96

6 ай бұрын

Yep, not to mention that in the Nazi racial beliefs the finns were actually consider "on-par", and i do read somewhere mention that they were considered the brothers of the so called "nordic aryan race"

@MrFriendlyCsgoContent

6 ай бұрын

you reallly believe the nazis wouldnt just backstab finland?

@coala2001

6 ай бұрын

CO-BELLIGERENT, not allied. Finland even had equipment from both Germany and the US.

One of the best history based videos I've seen in KZread. ❤

We would all drive bmw m5s

@zvallid

15 күн бұрын

and blonde gitls

@goldyoutube7663

Күн бұрын

​@@zvallid😳😳🤨

"European gamers would be shooting allies" got me😂😂😂😂

@Brick_guyy

2 ай бұрын

Me too

@Brick_guyy

2 ай бұрын

If there would be any games

@RandomHuman1103

2 ай бұрын

@@Brick_guyy Probably would be,but with heavy propaganda

@vinceheins

2 ай бұрын

@@RandomHuman1103as are today

@ANewHandTouchesTheBeacon

2 ай бұрын

​@@RandomHuman1103You guys act like there isnt propoganda all ober the place in movies games, tv and ads🙄🙄🙄 you just dont notice it because its clearly too normal for you now. Or because your brainwashed, or simply agree with the propoganda. Its no different

Most "what if the axis won" videos talk about germany conquering the entire world. I like how this one is more realistic, feels like something that could have really happened

@perseus274

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but Czechs and Slovaks would be Germans. Poles and Hungarians would be wiped out, so those nations existing and being part of "Ayans" is incorrect.

@stephenblacker1208

4 ай бұрын

Flawed in many ways

@landofthesilverpath5823

4 ай бұрын

It was never Hitler's intention to "conquer the world." The notion is ridiculous. But what political tendency was based on world dominantion? Hmmm..let's see. Oh...communism. and they nearly did it.

@damianoasteriti8530

4 ай бұрын

​@@perseus274Prussianas would like to have a chat with you...

@fortunatomartino8549

4 ай бұрын

Without the propaganda about an evil Germany

The important thing is that ABBA would still exist in this alternative axies's world, no one less Frida is replaced.

@dutchroyalnavy1

9 күн бұрын

hell yeah

Imagine living in a world where AI narrates media that alters your perspective

would love a second part with an extended space race, cold war destabilization attempts by all sides etc.

@bwmasterr

6 ай бұрын

yes

@leutnantobvious4340

6 ай бұрын

us and soviet space program without german tec and scientists? it would be straight up germany first and only .

@worldofdoom995

6 ай бұрын

Except the UK had a huge Rocket and ballistic missle program that could have beat the Ruskies to space by five years had they not been broke. Its like me saying the Germans could never get a nuclear bomb because we has so much resources to do so.@@leutnantobvious4340

@screwstatists7324

6 ай бұрын

THANK GOD WE SAVED THE WEST FROM HITLER

@imadeanaccounttocomment7800

6 ай бұрын

Yeah my biggest problem with this video other than his suggested way for Germany to win the War was his portrayal of this alternate Cold War. It seemed like he didn’t have a firm understanding of the Geopolitics of Indochina and Latin America that made the Cold War what it was between the USSR and USA. Since things like the Vietnam War didn’t happen the cultural impact in the US would be huge, civil rights movement might have been delayed or did not happen altogether, no hippie culture and revolution in music, certainly more than just the lack of a few Vietnam war movies. He also failed to realise that the “communist” revolutions such as the one in Cuba was nationalist in nature as opposed to really being communist so they would have just gone to a different backer like fascist germany to achieve their goals and Germany would be happy to oblige because that’s how you wage a Cold War. Also I have no idea why he thinks China would be split into two, no matter how much money you give to generalissimo cash by cheque nothing short of all out total military intervention by the US in China would have saved his ass.(pretty sure that was the opinion of General Marshal). Could also have focused on the new fascist satellite states like France, cause it seems like he forgot about Free France completely and the numerous European monarchs that would have been displaced.

"If the Germans won, we would all be speaking German." - Ok, now we're all speaking English.

@piratet0aster719

6 ай бұрын

Nah you wouldn't exist - Hitlers Plan was to clear out lands for Nazi Germany upcoming population "superior race" Hitler secret project to breed only best once, This meant after fall of USSR the United States of America, Mexico, Canada was next in line ! To be used as slave power and rest of population would be killed in the concentration camps- Pretty much entire America. - On other side, Japan would done same thing to China, Australia, India. Stuff is scary.... I am glad We Won!

@matthiasklaus4550

6 ай бұрын

Soon my friend

@piratensender1065

6 ай бұрын

And more and more people in Europe speak Arabic..

@rinzlr3554

6 ай бұрын

@@piratensender1065it will never trump English. It’s far easier to learn and already more wide spread

@BIGRIG2244

6 ай бұрын

@@rinzlr3554 hes saying something (((different)))..

Thanks for the detailed plans at the start. i will use this!

I watched 88 videos today and this is my 14th favorite. Well done.

@rhett3185

19 сағат бұрын

Aye, I get that reference!

Key sentence: "The winner of the war is always the good guy."

@megaham1552

4 ай бұрын

Not really

@NormalThe7th

4 ай бұрын

World war 2 is basically one of the only wars in history where the winner were objectively better than the losers in terms of morality. The American concentration camps of the Japanese and the Kolkata famine etc. weren't nearly bad enough to give the German Concentration camps and the horrid Japanese treatment of China any run for their money.

@DonGivani

4 ай бұрын

😂bs, you can migrate to North Korea if you want to experience this crap

@indiana-dani

4 ай бұрын

he said the quiet part out loud...

@bunz637

4 ай бұрын

You are really not trying to insinuate that the Nazis were “good guys”…😟

I can only imagine the American meltdown if Germany was so far ahead in missile tech, given how massive the panic was for the soviets who were barely ahead.

@jmgonzales7701

6 ай бұрын

Soviet tech paled in comparrison compared to america

@aghomidaniel1937

6 ай бұрын

The USA would become isolationist and simply not care in this scenario

@wingedhussar1453

6 ай бұрын

Well nazis only want alot to concquer usa.they would have went for it.nazis were crazy and probably would start nuclear war

@Blackmage4001

6 ай бұрын

Problem is, German leadership simply did not have the mindset to organize large-scale scientific research usefully. Nazis are remembered as organizational masterminds, but the fact is they were mostly a mob of backstabbing mini-tyrants who spent most of their time fighting each other for political power and scheming for more loot. They also lacked the key group of scientists necessary to figure out that an atomic bomb was actually feasible. Mostly because they drove them all out in the 1930s! USA/UK had over a dozen Nobel-quality people working together. Germany had Werner Heisenberg, working basically alone, and who didn't really believe it was possible anyway. They also couldn't afford the industrial resources. People will point to the rockets and jets to argue against me, but the Manhattan project was about 2 orders of magnitude greater effort. Consider that the gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge built in 1944 was the largest building in the world and it didn't significantly add to the bomb effort! The Y-12 plant that did most of the uranium separation was filled with enormous magnets, whose construction would have required so much copper for wire that it would have impacted the production of artillery shells... so instead they melted down the entire US silver reserve and turned it into magnet wire!!! The most realistic atomic weapons program for Germany would probably have been a heavy water reactor producing radiological weapons. But losing the heavy water plant in Norway wasn't actually much of a setback. (a) the "big shipment" that was sabotaged had something like 1/10th the D2O needed to start up a reactor. (b) that plant wasn't anywhere near the level of industrial cost of the Oak Ridge plants. Germany could have built a replacement somewhere more secure. They just didn't see the point given that it was just one of a dozen pie-in-the-sky projects being half-heartedly funded by various competing bureaucracies. Not to mention their lack of access to high-quality uranium ore. The only good source was Shinkolobwe in the Belgian Congo, and the Belgians managed to transfer all the processed ore to the USA in 1940.

@missk1697

6 ай бұрын

🤣@@jmgonzales7701

Lots of work went into that, Well done

No boatloads of Africans being dumped on the coast of Europe every day, for sure.

@sayingnigromakesyoutubecry

Ай бұрын

And hopefully no Muslims they are worse

@KevinBalch-dt8ot

Ай бұрын

Though in the scenario envisioned, Germany has an extensive presence in Africa. Plenty of opportunities for mixing. The colonized always make it bake to the colonizer’s homeland. See ancient Rome and today’s Britain and France.

@bobbyfischerman4811

Ай бұрын

@@KevinBalch-dt8ot what’s your religion?

@KevinBalch-dt8ot

Ай бұрын

@@bobbyfischerman4811 - None. Aesop’s fables has better moral lessons than any religious tract. Far more interesting to read. And kids know the talking animals are not real.

@blauwbeer556

Ай бұрын

@@KevinBalch-dt8ot A lot of Rome's influence dissapeared within 1 generation of them leaving Brittanica, and Gaul wasn't much better as it was moreso army territory than civilisation territory. I do agree with your point, i just think that Rome is a bad example.

While it is true that Germany have planned an invasion of Spain, it is likely that an Axis victory in the Mediterranean could persuade Spain to join without any fight.

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

an invasion is more persuasive

@roccosfondo8748

6 ай бұрын

@@zvallid you forget that Spain had not only an ideological reason to join the Axis but also a practical one: Gibraltar. Not to mention a big slice of that cake called Africa

@CapCody

6 ай бұрын

@@zvallid Invading Spain would be a waste of resources, and Spain would probably willingly join

@Grummel1971

6 ай бұрын

As far as i remember spain offered to join germany but that was politely refused since a friendly neutral spain was regarded as more valuabel then having to support the badly equipped spanish army to defend their coastline, whitch would take additional troops out of the fight against the russians and western allies.

@mrblack888

6 ай бұрын

@@zvallid You don't invade allies unless you want to turn your other allies against you. Franco was as anti-communist as Hitler, he was a useful and faithful ally.

This alternative story is more real than the alternative world of the book The Man in the High Castle.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

Truth! That mean that idea is not the best in the world about alternative ww2 war and post war alternative history. The Man in the High Castle is just a weak american alternative history story.

@Dung1NguyenTuan-ew4ey

6 ай бұрын

To be fair there was far less in-depth knowledge regarding the Nazis and related topics in 1962 than now.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

@@Dung1NguyenTuan-ew4eyI can agree with you!

@careyfreeman5056

6 ай бұрын

Most instructive thing about that was how they would eventually eat their own. And I don't see that changing in this scenario. Just look at the leadership. Goering is the most competent and he's a pill head. Then you have the chicken farmer and the "ad guy".

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

@@careyfreeman5056So, what you want to say to me? Who would be after Hitler death a leader of the Third Reich, in 1962, for example?

good video, it's definitely more believable than the scenario in Wolfenstein, although I'm not sure about that either ^^

Fighting on too many fronts. Battle of Britain was a huge loss of aircraft for them, and if they’d used those resources, they could have beaten Russia. Also, Germany would be unable to sustain such a large territory, so Europe was pretty much it.

Quite an interesting take. I find it very realistic, not the doomsday dystopian scenario usually portrayed.

@gregorgerzson1767

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I also love how objective it was. (I only argue with the football part. Hilter and Göbbels hated football, and cant stop flame the national team how bad they are, so in the end they just didnt care anymore.

@icosthop9998

5 ай бұрын

Agree

@ASLUHLUHCE

5 ай бұрын

It's very optimistic to think they'd suddenly stop gassing Jews, and wouldn't genocide Slavs

@BelfastBiker

5 ай бұрын

i mean, unless you're one of those the regime wants to kill. Yeah.

@larryhats4320

5 ай бұрын

TFW you realize the doomsday dystopian scenario is the one running live right now, based on what happened.

The neoclassical architecture is beautiful and i only wish it would be a more common sight nowadays

@JanosRado-gd2od

3 ай бұрын

Can only agree

@Shirley10.

2 ай бұрын

It would have been if we won

@primaitalia6586

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I‘m Italian. And i live the Imperium Roman and the Roman Architecture.

@ClipsOfVTubers

2 ай бұрын

@@Shirley10. cars destroy our architecture, not freedom of speech, dumbass. Hitler was very pro-car so no, it would actually look worse than it does today

@Cokiecoler

2 ай бұрын

@@Shirley10.take a shower for me bud🙏🙏

The first half of this was awesome.

Very thought provoking!

Your alternative history is on another level dude , great job! 😊

@Juntasification

6 ай бұрын

Well its pretty much how its descriped in the book "Fatherland".

7:52 Adolf be like: Where the fuck I am?

@snn6262

2 ай бұрын

joe pesci's " what the fuck is this piece of shit" comes to my mind.

@burningtank160

Ай бұрын

"Is this Hungary? Where the fuck did Goebbels take me?"

@oliveryt7168

Ай бұрын

Reminds me of Biden on stage..

@Martin-zj4bp

Ай бұрын

Hahahahahahahaha

@robertbeier5521

Ай бұрын

@@snn6262 No definitely john travolta confused meme kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKV-uMNpls-WYdo.html haha!

what an excellent video thank you very much 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I like how he mentions proliferation of small portable radios. Shame he neglected shortwave though which was popular well into the 90s and Germany was a powerful broadcaster back in the ww2 times being easily heard in the USA.

"This is not world War II this became like 135th European" Hit me so hard Edit: Omg 1k.This is my most famous comment

@ackwardHistoryoffical

6 ай бұрын

No comments this comment with 120 likes? I gonna change that

@Retroist2024

6 ай бұрын

Wwi is also European war

@ekarn69

6 ай бұрын

@@ackwardHistoryoffical i disliked ur comment what are you gonna do ab it

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

WW2 can be even USA never intervene in Europa against Germany and Italy.

@notsosilentmajority1

6 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!!! That was great. 😅😂🤣

One part I found unrealistic is both the use of multiple atomic bombs on Japan plus an invasion of the mainland. If two atomic bombs did the job of forcing a Japanese surrender in actual history it's unlikely 3.5 times as many atomic bombs would fail to accomplish this in the alternate history. However, overall, I really found this intriguing and well done.

@phillipswanson4055

5 ай бұрын

Actually that made sense. One of the reasons for the Japanese surrender was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin island. That was cited by Hirohito himself in the surrender announcement and that didn’t happen in this timeline.

@phillipswanson4055

5 ай бұрын

Also it is likely if he did still want to surrender the august 14 coup could have had more support and succeeded. Interestingly, that plan had some parallels to operation Valkyrie but on a smaller scale

@zvallid

5 ай бұрын

@@phillipswanson4055 exsct, the real reason was the soviet invasion of manchuria that destroyed almost all japan had in china in two weeks

@Andre-by4su

5 ай бұрын

@@zvallid it`s not really accurate to say that it was the "real reason". It is likely that it played a role, since the Soviet Union played kind of an independent mediator role between Japan and the US before, but to say that the real reason Japan surrendered was the Soviet Union is like saying that the real reason Germany lost WW2 was Italy.

@Ironpancakemoose

5 ай бұрын

Bro, Japan was borderline starving, their navy was obliterated, their airforce was castrated, merchant marine was obliterated, fuel was rationed like printer ink, and the Japanese experimented with eating bamboo as a food replacement. The japanese were incapable of offensive actions.@@phillipswanson4055

It would be a far sight better than the Europistan we have now.

The legendary channel is back and got the 1.3M views it deserves. Tho probably Stalin sues for peace (as I heard there were some options in 42), probably doesn't quite get pushed past the Urals and maybe keeps 1 major city, then definitely no Khrushchev but maybe some hardliner or just Beria, probably some new face though. Speer would fill the role of being the German Khrushchev in general maybe. Just some wild ideas.

@zvallid

3 ай бұрын

good ideas, may be you are right

This video is incredible. The scenario depicted is so realistic that I could see in my mind clear images of all that happening as if it was a parallel universe. The german hippie movement was definetely going to happen. You should expand this scenario further in time.

@topcatandgang

2 ай бұрын

germany didn't have aircraft carriers, they wouldn't have a chance. the oceans of the planet all have sunken submarins that have the designation U on them.

This is one of the more, if not most, realistic Axis-Victory scenarios. It isn't too far fetched and the details from Women's rights to music. Speaking of, Music related sub-cultures would probably boom in countries like Germany, Sweden, the UK, Ireland etcetera. While they would most likely be punished and condemned heavily, Sub-Cultures, fashion and genres like Punk would probably either be much more popular and larger than they were IOT or non-existent because of the presumed notion that things like anti authoritarianism, Femenism, Progressivism, Socialism and all related/similar ideological standpoints would be heavily censored and kept out of the minds of the people. With such an Authoritarian regime all throughout Europe, it's not hard to imagine that nothing but Nazism and other related ideologies and subjects are the only ones taught in schools and from a young age, with other ideas and standpoints being prohibited from entering the Regime, though there is always someone who comes up with these ideas in the end, so it's not entirely implausible to say rebellious Sub-cultures and genres would exist, so much more than than our timeline.

@zvallid

5 ай бұрын

good analisys!

@choossuck7653

5 ай бұрын

Far far far from reality

@onpointoriginal

5 ай бұрын

@choossuck7653 If you want reality, it's right there in the history books!

@choossuck7653

5 ай бұрын

@@onpointoriginal the history books that were either written by or proofread in Israel. Really really rich.

@onpointoriginal

5 ай бұрын

@choossuck7653 Wow, an actual anti Sem*te. Now I get your user handle, I just thought you couldn't spell. It's confusing following your trail of thoughts across your 2 comments, but with all the big thoughts swirling around in your little head, I'm sure that must be your daily condition

Well done. Well thought out and realistic. All the best.

Wolfenstein devs need to take notes for a more realistic reboot.

This is the best “what would have happened if the Axis powers won” video I’ve seen and I’m thankful to you for making it

1:46 - just a nitpick, but invading through the Caucasus is unrealistic. It's a massive mountain range, a natural barrier that's 1500 km wide, 5 km tall and 150 km thick. You can't just steamroll tank battalions across there like through the Central European plains. Good video overall!

@MoeSzyslak2001

4 ай бұрын

But you would have a population unfriendly to the russians there, who would be glad to help Germany if they, for example, were offered independence in return.

@effexon

4 ай бұрын

im more curious of logistics as that is brutal region in winter and far from berlin. they would need to quickly build fortifications in urals to keep that place.

@wyqtor

4 ай бұрын

But you can invade through the coastal Caspian Sea plain of Northern Azerbaijan through Dagestan. The locals living there are Muslim, so they would also presumably be sympathetic to Germany.

@benjaminbritsch1749

3 ай бұрын

the Nazis almost conquered the caucasus in our timeline - just imagine them attacking from two sides...

This is so cool! Thanks for making this video, you've really created something here. Love the portrayal of the hippie movement, I was wondering if that was gonna be covered and it sure was.

Outstanding video, life would be very similar to today, many of our relatives probably would not have left Europe, we must all consider how truly close we were to this outcome, I believe this world we live in now is full of youth who have no values, no direction, and a lot of that comes down to loss of values and integrity of the WW2 generation.

Don't forget the most influential fashion designer of his age Hugo Boss . . . 😀

I found the Nuclear warheads section interesting, I think you haven't really considered that one fully. Britain actually had a really advanced nuclear programme prior to the US joining the war and while Ernest Rutherford was from New Zealand he worked all his adult life in the UK. Its also worth thinking of what happened in Germany with their wonder weapons, had the UK been isolated a wonder weapon would have been given much higher priority and even if it hadn't they wouldn't have merged the research in the US to be sure. Also interesting that you didn't want to touch Lehi with a bargepole.... while suggesting Iran and Iraq would be in full revolt. Also agree with other comments about Finland, I often ponder had the war ended with an Axis victory I'm sure a great deal more significance would have been placed into Finland's wartime contribution to the axis war effort, which following the start of the Cold War has been pretty much ignored.

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

finland borders are not exact, it wass an error

@mjc8281

6 ай бұрын

@@zvallid I mean more that Finland's role in the war wouldn't have been downplayed, ignored as it is in this reality

@AndyGrouch

5 ай бұрын

Finland would be much larger in geographic area. It would encompass all of Lake Ladoga and also Murmansk.

@onpointoriginal

5 ай бұрын

@@AndyGrouch my thoughts exactly 💯

The best documentary film I have ever seen.

We wouldn't have any of the problems we have today.

I have never heard a more realistic alternate WW2 history

@manacola

4 ай бұрын

How can we say accurate when referring to hypothetical sinerios? Why do the good guys always win? They don't. There are no good guys. The winner just gets to call themselves that.

@ziomudru

4 ай бұрын

@@manacola amen

@nnnnnn3647

4 ай бұрын

Probably yes. The author only forgot to mention that entire nations, for example Poles, would be 100% murdered.

@miketackabery7521

4 ай бұрын

I have never heard a more unrealistic version of an alternate WW2. So many alternatives just to get to the starting point (that the axis won). Ridiculous.

@tsdobbi

2 ай бұрын

His scenarios for post war may seem more realistic, but his alt history for how they won is pure fantasy. He basically pretends American lend lease was never a thing. Which was largely the reason WHY Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. The Russians seemed all but defeated. The Americans would be wrapped up in a war with Japan and they would now be free to attack US shipping of war materials to Britain and Russia. He literally says in the video "Germany doesn't declare war on the US because thats absurd". It was not an absurd thing to do strategically in the moment. Its only absurd in hindsight, because we know the Russians turned it around before an American soldier ever even engaged a German and the US managed to go from a 3rd rate military power to a Superpower capable of largely fighting the Pacific war on it's own while still field almost 2 million troops in Europe by the end of the war.

Comparing this timeline to our current one, as a European it sounds like paradise

@crono3339

Ай бұрын

As a Jew not so much though

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537

Ай бұрын

@@crono3339 The fuck you mean? You basically get Madagascar or whatever the Havaara agreement pans out to. Only a jew would complain about having to build themselves up respectably and not being able to parasitize.

@alexappsapp1332

Ай бұрын

Such a paradise that I or my parents wouldn't exist🤩🤩

@bruhproductions2078

Ай бұрын

@@alexappsapp1332 even better

@bruhproductions2078

Ай бұрын

@@chriskopp1361 because i will be, unlucky for you

A more realistic and interesting alternate timeline. Would love to see a 'Man in the high castle' style TV series based on this. Tell us more about the rivalries between Germany and USA, and what life is like in east Urals soviet union!

@zvallid

2 ай бұрын

Yes there will be a kind of sequel

A well-done narrative that left few holes. Normally, these types of constructs are, at best fanciful, at worst ridiculous, but yours had many believable elements. I thoroughly enjoyed your take! My main criticism is that the notion of any European country, except Germany, having nukes is unlikely... especially France, who I imagine would continue to be a vassal state with little presence on the world stage

@reborninflames2188

6 ай бұрын

It was a great idea to include the expanded Mediterranean/ North African campaign.

@sammy-wi8pi

6 ай бұрын

Yes, because the narrator inserted real events alongside hypothetical ones and made it seem VERY REAL ❤❤❤❤.....good job .

@Marvin-dg8vj

5 ай бұрын

​@@reborninflames2188a Mediterranean campaign instead of an attack on the USSR would have been even more believable. There were German voices in favour of this. It would have defeated the British in North Africa , closed the Suez Canal , strengthened Italy and allowed Axis control of oil in Iraq and Iran. Germany and the USSR have divided Europe between them both with nuclear weapons .The US and UK plus other surviving areas of the British empire would be a separate block also with nukes.

@PassportReasons

5 ай бұрын

LOL "few"? The fate of Blacks and Africans, more Jews that tried to escape to Palestine, various people deemed insufficiently human by the fascists. Come on. You just pretend the people never existed and you can pretend the holes aren't gaping wide.

@seanmatto2258

5 ай бұрын

They Had Hans Kammler and Mario Zippermayr’s coal dust bomb.

As long as I stay in the Americas I’ll probably be fine

@SlapStyleAnims

6 ай бұрын

Yup

@missk1697

6 ай бұрын

Argentina:

@Epicgamerboy-li4rv

6 ай бұрын

Antarctica:

@slayride136

6 ай бұрын

Canada

@AdrielMichael-xo2hd

6 ай бұрын

as a Nigerian who was colonised by birtiain i see us very well

Very fair good video

PERFECT!

“something like the 135th european war” lol

@TheCrab78

3 ай бұрын

Underrated humor for sure

I love how Bose was the first prime minister of India because of the axis victory. Not a lot of people know that Subash Chandra Bose was in talks with hitler regarding the situation of India after a British defeat.

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

he was in berlin too

@heyybigdaddy6988

5 ай бұрын

And most Indian leaders had a good connection with Hitler.

@saranshsaini4870

4 ай бұрын

Some people say that he was a Nazi for shaking hands with Hitler, but you save your house before caring about others so the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Quick question - is the narration voice-over AI generated? As in the vocals, or is it your actual voice?

@zvallid

2 ай бұрын

no it's not my voice. my voice is horrible

@jezzalexander

2 ай бұрын

@@zvallid Ahh, cool, thank you for replying - I'd heard the voice on several different channels and was just curious.

well I'd be fine with all this, sounds pretty good to me :D

@LesangdesdieuX

15 күн бұрын

This scenario is too utopic forgetting the racial pettyness of nazis wich considered all non germans as sub-humans in different degrees It's basically saying all would be the same exept europe would be in better shape and without external influence Very enticing tho that's for sure xD

"Nazi Congo" Does not sound like a good time

@Grason20

2 ай бұрын

But i guess better than Leopold's Congo, which is not a high bar

@NobleBoss

2 ай бұрын

​@@Grason20 "Oh Bongo, Bongo, Bongo I dont want to leave the Congo, oh no, no, no, no, no" - Leopold the 2nd probably

@Ananas-280

Ай бұрын

​@@NobleBoss😂😂😂 that's hilarious ngl

@Bigpapaidadwag

Ай бұрын

Did the Nazis want to geniocide black ppl? Or were they fine with them as long as they kept to themselves?

@Nmmhh

Ай бұрын

@@NobleBoss🤣🤣🤣🤣

I really like how you show how every day life would be like not just the political tensions!

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

I agree! That is really good in that video.

The series Man in the High-Castle has been an excellent inspiration source for you

@zvallid

10 күн бұрын

really not

There would be a good chance it would lead to further conflicts in the following years, the splitting of China for example

That's a rather interesting take on alternate history comparable to that of HOI4 mods like the "Thousand Week Reich" and/or "The New Order: Last Days of Europe". Of course a few inaccuracies with their reichkommissariat borders, but that's not important. But still, great "What If" scenario on a topic widely discussed in media

@ivan5595

6 ай бұрын

As fun as these mods are, they are made by certain individuals who wanted to make them to look as bad as possible.

@genericwhitemale9566

6 ай бұрын

@@ivan5595 to be fair, there is no way the war could've ended like this. Both the Allies and the Axis said that they would only accept unconditional surrender from the other side. If Britain and The Soviets never capitulated, Germany would've just kept attacking until they did and would've made them a fascist puppet of Germany. There's absolutely no way Hitler would've accepted the Soviets still being around after the war considering how much he hated both Slavs and Communists.

@ivan5595

6 ай бұрын

@@genericwhitemale9566 I'm saying that the axis is designed to look bad and evil in these mods

@Vagab0nd12

6 ай бұрын

​@@ivan5595Which is absolutely accurate, I mean it wasn't allies that planned and organised mass genocide on "subhumans".

@joserkp1535

6 ай бұрын

unfortunately history is written by the victors@@ivan5595

Thank you for the upload Zvallid. I hope you are doing okay.

@JOECURR1488

6 ай бұрын

This was his masterpiece.😮

@hank780

6 ай бұрын

@@JOECURR1488 agreed

Bravo! 2 thumbs up, way up!

@zvallid

2 ай бұрын

thank you!

I love your videos, I love your Central Powers victory series. Keep up the good work

"The European Gamers spend all their time shooting allies instead of axis" 😭

@akmalvargas3402

6 ай бұрын

I can imagine, playing battle of Gibraltar campaign as a Wehrmacht soldier

@theregnarute

6 ай бұрын

:-)

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

Yeah! That would be lovely games for me too! Petty, because they do not exist!

@swedenisthemotherland3952

6 ай бұрын

@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mhJust play as Axis in Hell let loose.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

@@swedenisthemotherland3952 Yeah! We really lost the war, before 78 years, but that was a good fight. But, finally, at the end our fight and will would triumph. Because we are the only hope for Europeans and white race. But, Israel, USA, Russia, China, England, France, ect., do not want that. And they want destroy your in ww2 neutral country. That winners of last global war!

11:49 and don't forget to the Japanese, Nazi idealogoy saw them as honorary Aryans. Ribbentrop felt that that way and even convinced Hitler to think on those racial lines.

Soviet would have collapsed without support of USA. New government would have kept Russia as it is today ( same as end of WWI). Germany would have kept Ukraine and some other parts. NOTE - The conflict became world war because colonial powers forced the colonies into the war, all the major nations are still and has been in war since, but none is termed as WW.

Despite you being really far away from my political views, I can’t hesitate from saying that you’re my favourite channel

@ArbDaNub

6 ай бұрын

what is ur view

@JobyDoby

6 ай бұрын

where did his political views come into the video?

@leonardodegregorio

6 ай бұрын

@@JobyDoby I’ve watched nearly all his videos and by viewing all of them I sort of got an idea

@JobyDoby

6 ай бұрын

@@leonardodegregorio i guess all alt history videos will come across as politically biased just because the other political system has won, but thats the whole idea of it really.

@swox3669

6 ай бұрын

@@JobyDoby He's populist conservative, and is entirely historical on the axis nations (doesn't hate them for made up reasons/emotional appeal)

I have to say this is pretty accurate to how it would be. Though I disagree about some of the cultural aspects, especially the music and hippie culture in the United States, though that could just be my ignorance on the subject. All in all, great video.

You forgot also the iran revolution wouldn't happen and Iran remained a peaceful country something like today's Canada

@volvodude101

14 күн бұрын

I can assure you that canada today is not an example of anything good at all.

I was hoping for him to say that if the axis had won the war, not one thing would be different than if the allies won, everything would be the same, only the country seen as a global superpower would be different, that’s it… fascinating..

Seems logically consistent with known behaviors. Well done.

I am amazed how accurate is the story including the map. Good job !

@personaltreat5472

2 ай бұрын

What? How do you even know that? You been in another timeline or something?

As an Indian I approve this coz India and Netaji Subhash bose was close Associates with Hitler. if won Then Indi won't have been divided and NETAJI would have been first PM of INDIA . For sure.!

4:43 "Subhas Chandra Bose is the Indian PM of India" what we needed 🫡❤️

Can you imagine people in comment sections calling people they disagree with Churchill?! 😂

@odeleon24

4 ай бұрын

If more people knew about Churchill’s life they most likely would use his name as an insult in this timeline

@SneedFeedAndSeed

2 ай бұрын

That guy is literally Churchill.

@ClipsOfVTubers

2 ай бұрын

“Calling people they disagree with Hitler” when you guys are *literally* glorifying Hitler. Ok bro 🤡

@Christoph-sd3zi

2 ай бұрын

​@oxdox2356 you're about as sharp as a marble

@user-wj6dt5bq3w

2 ай бұрын

@@odeleon24Common people just obey what they see on television, they have the mental level of a dog.

Abba not existing is possibly the worst alternative history consequence ever convieved

Life would be paradise

@Christoph-sd3zi

2 ай бұрын

I literally dream about this world at night.

@gooseguy9148

2 ай бұрын

depends where you live

@mtg9587

2 ай бұрын

Where do you think it would be worse?

Well Spain is unrealistic probably especially because the nationalists were supported by Germany and Italy. Franco just didn’t want any war and H. wanted to replace him with someone who would join the war as far as I remember

I very much doubt Hitler would have invaded Spain

@leblon712

5 ай бұрын

There was no need. Both Spain and Portugal, and Brazil and Argentina too, has gone fascist on their own.

Britain wouldn't have fought till 1944 in this alternate reality. Britain never wanted to fight the war in the first place, I reckon we would have thrown out Churchill rather than face the consequences. Also, Hitler liked the British Empire, it would do him no good to disband it.

@andrewhale337

5 ай бұрын

… and possibly the Fascists in Britain would have gained control… not to mention the very popular Nazi party in America, and the support of fascists there by nationalist Christian radicals( Father Coughlin comes to mind with his millions of followers on his popular radio show!) with already over 30 congressmen with contact to top NSDAP officials!! … If the US supported Germany, as so many wanted to, the question arises why Japan would attack the US?? they would have probably finished off China and the rest of Indochina. Many of today’s GOP would feel very cozy in this „Brave new World“!

It's very fortunate that the good guys always win in war, according to the history books.

@zvallid

2 ай бұрын

great comment

@rhett3185

18 сағат бұрын

I feel like this kind of sentiment is rather new. It’s basically a soft way of manufacturing consent of the masses who ‘won’ in the past to basically vindicate themselves of all the current wrongdoings and failures that they now wrought now. Anytime I see this kind of line, actually parroted by people who genuinely believe that the allies were the ‘good guys’ I just think of all the shit we have to deal with now, and all of the atrocities that the ‘good guys’ cover up to make themselves look good. I know you the OP don’t believe that, but just my take.

The trivia is mind-boggling.

Finland would have been given back its pre-1938 land as well as more of Karelia, perhaps including the Kola peninsula. In the middle East Iraq, which had a pro-Axis revolt IOTL, would be given Syria, Lebanon and Transjordan to form United Arab Republic, which would be an Axis-aligned dictatorship. Armenia almost definitely wouldn't exist being subsumed into greater-Turkey + Azerbaijan. The Netherlands + Friesland would be annexed to the German Reich. Additionally, the USA would annex Greenland from Denmark. Nonetheless great video, quite plausible IMO.

@romko4496

6 ай бұрын

There's good strategic reason Russia holds on Murmansk. Don't think the Nazis would be that stupid giving up on that.

You know Europe is fucked when you watch this video and realize that it represents a far better Europe for Europeans. In our timeline, European Countries help immigrants and foreigners more than their own citizens, in this timeline at least the governments take care of their own and make sure that the general population evolves and gets more intelligent and Europe and most of the world is safeguarded from foreign intervention.

@Syndixal

6 ай бұрын

Fact

@amadiohastruck4331

6 ай бұрын

Except the slavs

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

right

@lemonboy9208

6 ай бұрын

Bro you living in a made up world

@abdelrahmantarek5439

6 ай бұрын

@@amadiohastruck4331 eh only really east slavs and serbs the rest are fine

Really good content and realistic. Will there be a chance of a part 2?

@zvallid

Ай бұрын

for the moment it's not a project

@MJ2A

Ай бұрын

@@zvallid Very well. Still good content

@blauwbeer556

Ай бұрын

@@MJ2A He'll make a video about a fash USA, presumably after the Mars sequel.

@MJ2A

Ай бұрын

@@blauwbeer556 I’m intrested

how the hell were you able to think of something like this? like its so well made

@zvallid

2 ай бұрын

happy you like it!

Very good presentation. 10:39 "Even those who score in the low ranges." Showing a couch potato watching t.v. and eating popcorn. Clever 🙂

The "Axis Powers" were Germany (including Austria), Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia, and Thailand. Finland was allied with the Axis, in the war against the Communist dictator Stalin. Other countries, like Denmark, were members of the anti-Communist "Anti-Comintern Pact". By the way, the English language was developed from 5th Century German (Anglo-Saxon), and is thus a Germanic language.

@lI-tm2pn

4 ай бұрын

I mean Denmark was under axis control by that point. You can't really say "Denmark" did anything at that point. It was just Germany pulling strings.

@Cowboys777

4 ай бұрын

So technically we still do speak a German language lol

@memetkasupovic4321

4 ай бұрын

Croatia didn't exist as a state but Croatian Ustasha regime. English isn't Germanic language, it is Romano-Germanic language actually. Denmark was German satrapia, Germans simply walked in without any resistance...Post war Europe would lay on Germanic peoples as ruling class, Slavic speaking would be either sterilized or slave labours.

@oliverkelly9164

3 ай бұрын

​@@Cowboys777not exactly, the 'German' language. German is specific. A 'Germanic' language just means from the same wider umbrella. Like how French, Spanish, Italian and Romanian all stem from Latin. Modern English is this mix up of Britonic, Germanic (from the Saxons), Norman-French and even elements of old-norse.

@Sleepystories923

2 ай бұрын

germanic isn't the same as german, anglos came from denmark, and english is just modern norse, so its more danish then german@@Cowboys777

Quick Question, Does The Godzilla Franchise Still Exist In This Timeline?

A better world, with humans and nature in one. ♥️♥️♥️

Amazing how perspective plays a huge role in this.

@primaitalia6586

2 ай бұрын

Of course it does. He said it neutrally. Meanwhile the others pretend to be neutral. But actually just spouting Allied propaganda.

A lot better than what we have now

About German being the primary language learnt in Europe. For this to happen Germany would've had to have a monopoly over the entertainment industry. This is the reason in my understanding why English is spoken frequently today the world over. Not only because it's a trade language, and because of colonialism, but in large because of the entertainment industry.

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

interesting, mau be you are right however in the east europe they all speak russian being under soviet influence for decades

@syndicalistcat3138

6 ай бұрын

That would be the case for sure, they would be the dominant one 100%

@drakegod84

6 ай бұрын

@@zvallid Seriously? The most common language in the soviet block is Russian? I almost find it hard to believe since the Russians were hated so much. I would assume they too speak English as a second language. I mean you're older than me and are from Italy, so you have more experience, but I would assume English.

@pvp216

6 ай бұрын

@@drakegod84older folks speak native language + russian since it was mandatory in school and english wasnt

@mattia8327

6 ай бұрын

German is not a singable language though. I think Italian would rise in popularity as Italian music becomes more commonly listened to.

Well done.

will there be a 2nd part? Most excellently done. Always interesting to watch programs/movies about alternative timelines, like the series "Man in the high Castle" Thank you.

@zvallid

6 ай бұрын

inb the future there will be a second part

Very good. The part about the east European settler hippies was interesting; all very realistic.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh

6 ай бұрын

Truth! I was reading something about that! Very realistic story about that!