What would it take for Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag? | ESPN FC

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ESPN FC’s Dan Thomas, Rob Dawson, Shaka Hislop, Steve Nicol, Jan Aage Fjortoft and Frank Leboeuf discuss Erik ten Hag’s future with Manchester United as the club has their second-most losses through 15 matches in all competitions to start a season.
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  • @Supafly621
    @Supafly6217 ай бұрын

    The major major' problem with Manchester United....that persons are ignoring why managers come there and fail....is the fact.. that the players who are representing the club are exorbitantly Overpaid....so there is no real incentive or effort.. in majority of them to perform at the best of their abilities .... because what...they are receiving waay higher salaries than where they were coming from in the first place...😒 So.. until this situation is fixed...these players will throw any...and repeat any' manager...under the bus.

  • @tvgcmma9215

    @tvgcmma9215

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah as a spurs fan it’s an issue for few prem clubs as well as need to get recruitment right otherwise you can’t get rid of players as other clubs in Europe can’t match wages - our biggest ever signing still has 18 months left and he’s been on loan last few seasons and we have to pay part of his wages - for Man Utd it’s even worse as have lot more players on the silly wages and long term contracts - it’s why they need a director of football whose first job is to get rid of players and then sort out recruitment once that done then can look for a new manager until then whoever gets will have same issue

  • @Supafly621

    @Supafly621

    7 ай бұрын

    @@tvgcmma9215 yep

  • @michaelmckenzie6263

    @michaelmckenzie6263

    7 ай бұрын

    No no no you need to stop pocket watching That's not the problem. Even though it's amusing to see Manchester United change managers like the weather That's really the problem. Tanking is not allowed in the The Premier League. But really that's what Man United needs. They just need a season with no expectations. Where they sell off the Deadwood with the big wages. Fight against relegation finish 15th save money and let the manager build one consistent philosophy of football. Right now Manchester United there's errors of players that don't have the same consistent philosophy. Some play tiki taka some play rough football. That's why they're losing It's not a matter of effort you just don't have a consistent team.

  • @morrisanderson3180

    @morrisanderson3180

    7 ай бұрын

    💯 % right.

  • @colet8940

    @colet8940

    7 ай бұрын

    He did give rashford a much bigger contract

  • @JscottyOfficial
    @JscottyOfficial7 ай бұрын

    I love how Dan winds Stevie up 😂😂😂

  • @jftt42

    @jftt42

    7 ай бұрын

    It's cringy because dan just wants to have a conversation and the old guy always takes it personally and starts hyperventilating.

  • @dead_r33d

    @dead_r33d

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jftt42 Dan does not "want to have a conversation". you can't actually believe that. If you've watched ESPN half as long you would know that he does it to get on Stevie's nerves

  • @jftt42

    @jftt42

    7 ай бұрын

    @@dead_r33d I watch this show daily. Over 90% of the time, dan just gives a different argument and the old guy loses his marbles and starts acting like a child. At times it gets so embarrassing it becomes unwatchable.

  • @10from10

    @10from10

    6 ай бұрын

    Stevie should have taken his med after d show

  • @diroysama8558
    @diroysama85587 ай бұрын

    Stevie: "He'll never get an opportunity to manage a club the size of Man United" That's how they bury you 😂😂

  • @10from10

    @10from10

    6 ай бұрын

    looks like stevie wants d job bad.

  • @markmwiti1529
    @markmwiti15297 ай бұрын

    Dan is a prime gaslighter😂😂

  • @DiReal_Donclassy
    @DiReal_Donclassy7 ай бұрын

    How many coaches will United sack before they get it right?? Who is going to replace him if he's sacked now? The root problem with United has to be addressed, not just sacking the coach at all times. You can't solve a problem the same way and expect different outcomes. Let them give him more time if they can't sack half of the rotten squad.

  • @shawnchia3611

    @shawnchia3611

    7 ай бұрын

    I think there is something seriously wrong with the culture at United.. its certainly not a wages issue cos the players are paid handsomely. And i dont really know if sacking the manager helps if the players are not giving everything on the field like previously under Sir Alex

  • @DiReal_Donclassy

    @DiReal_Donclassy

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shawnchia3611 Their recruitment is awful. They don't target the right players to suit their culture. May be they should concentrate more on defending than attacking when playing strong teams. 10 Hag to has to change his tactics

  • @todwest

    @todwest

    7 ай бұрын

    United and the Glazers don't care about getting it right. They care about extracting the club's wealth and putting it in their pockets.

  • @Bestlifestyle32

    @Bestlifestyle32

    7 ай бұрын

    This is the best statement I have seen, at least we still have people here with sense.

  • @anwartemam5168
    @anwartemam51687 ай бұрын

    After all Ronaldo was right about united 😂

  • @holadea5704
    @holadea57047 ай бұрын

    Steve gets so easily triggered by Dan 😂

  • @talhaansari62
    @talhaansari627 ай бұрын

    The work De zerbi is doing in Brighton is earning him good praise. I think he could be easily in the line for clubs like RM when they get rid of Ancelotti, or PSG when they get rid of lucho or Bayern when they get rid of tuchel. Not just that Italian big boys like Juve, or milan clubs can take him. And if Xavi is sacked tomorrow De zerbi is the guy who plays similar to the Barca way. If he can keep getting into Europe with Brighton for a couple of seasons I'm sure any of these clubs will take him so personally I don't think MU is a good move for him.

  • @davidlim7440

    @davidlim7440

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes. He would be silly to take the Man U job. If he fails there, he would be a forgotten man

  • @kostar500

    @kostar500

    7 ай бұрын

    Really top class managers wont go to MU… thats a graveyard

  • @davinnicode

    @davinnicode

    7 ай бұрын

    Also Stevie and other don’t understand that De Zerbi is in Manager wonderland right now. He is the main man at Brighton and is involved in everything highly respected by the responsible persons at the club. That’s the total opposite of what has been going on at Man United for a while now. They had Rangnick at their hand who was similar to De Zerbi and most importantly a proven reformer of football clubs getting them equipped for a successful long term future. It didn’t even had a chance to implant anything. He never had a chance to begin with. United is a club right now which needs major reforms in almost every department. This is a hotseat for any manager. I can only see a manager with a character like Klopp turning things around at Man United. He has shown it in the past that he is capable of revamping struggling massive clubs so that within these clubs a winning mentality is lived by every single responsible person. Question is: Where does one find a manager like Klopp? There are not too many out there…

  • @MarcoBonechi

    @MarcoBonechi

    7 ай бұрын

    Also he is now obvious Man City post Pep. Barcelona is not viable Xavi will stay for 10 years.

  • @deathstarresident

    @deathstarresident

    7 ай бұрын

    Too early to consider for big clubs. Brighton recruitment and the way the club is run needs more appreciation. They were doing well even under Potter. For all the praise that De Zerbi gets - Brighton are still only 2 points above a United side with their worst possible start in 40 years or so

  • @stillergangforever3594
    @stillergangforever35947 ай бұрын

    The year is 2048, man utd and Gary Neville are still searching for answers

  • @thamsanqambatha9266
    @thamsanqambatha92667 ай бұрын

    Ronaldo told them what is needed to be done. And He told us that this Eric is a bad manager and look how things are now..

  • @xtreame

    @xtreame

    7 ай бұрын

    And he was right

  • @deron19

    @deron19

    7 ай бұрын

    Rangnick was the main one that said United needed open heart surgery. He saw this before anyone else and no one listened

  • @yashmufc

    @yashmufc

    7 ай бұрын

    Fanboys trying to find some solace now while he was benched deservedly(even for POR) 😂😂

  • @lexkanyima2195

    @lexkanyima2195

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@deron19so why is Ragnick as a interim manager and not going upstairs as a sporting director ?

  • @williamsdibia7788

    @williamsdibia7788

    7 ай бұрын

    @@yashmufcwell if he didn’t come back to womanchester united he would have been ready for the World Cup. Not the rubbish scenario that happened for months which built up to his World Cup preparation

  • @antenehzeleke6980
    @antenehzeleke69807 ай бұрын

    In football, winning isn't incentivized by money as far as players are concerned (think their salary). So when people say why aren't the players playing well, they're getting paid regardless of what goes on in the club outside the pitch, the answer is that money isn't an incentive for them to win, because they get paid either way. That's where mentality and elitism comes into play, like what City and Liverpool have.

  • @derrickwanjala3710
    @derrickwanjala37107 ай бұрын

    Yes, the board remains the biggest problem at the club. But again, ETH isn't helping himself here. He has favorites who do nothing but still plays them. Mourinho remains the best United manager post-fergie

  • @salfetka
    @salfetka7 ай бұрын

    Jan is right- we have to blame ETH. The Glazers were there when SAF was winning, when Mourinho won Europa League, won FA cup etc. Look at Spurs - same owner - same players - different manager - top of PL. The managers make a difference.

  • @imo098765

    @imo098765

    7 ай бұрын

    Look at ETH last season and Spurs this season, same thing The problem is Levy them are actually good owners, just look at the past 5 years what they have done They have completely revamped the training grounds, built a brand new stadium the best in the country and one of the best in Europe. started spending on players which they couldnt with the stadium costing over 1.2 billion which they still paying off Levy and co put Spurs in a position to compete, even the players they brought in were attacking players under a defensive manager, now with an attacking manager they doing well. While United, stadium is falling apart, training facilities are that of a championship club, a Man united youth player said that. United have counter-attacking players for a possession based manager who currently has 5 injured players of his starting 11 out and 3 of the backups to those players also out

  • @zendata4354
    @zendata43547 ай бұрын

    "Trust in your manager" Fergie said as united fans didnt trust their manager and sacked Moyes.

  • @zakimubarak7862
    @zakimubarak78627 ай бұрын

    Here we go, Stevie with another of his episode 😂

  • @God_is_an_Atheist666
    @God_is_an_Atheist6667 ай бұрын

    De Zerbi didn't inherent a club in shambles like Man United. He continued to play well and got better, he can wait for better Man U is a graveyard right now.

  • @priincexavi5504
    @priincexavi55047 ай бұрын

    Either they’ll sack him the same way they did to Ole and Jose with Top 4 looking very unlikely to be attainable or they may actually give him more time.

  • @aryan.4855

    @aryan.4855

    7 ай бұрын

    Ten hag won’t be sacked, the reason we losing because we don’t have Martinez and Varane at back. If we had them, we would’ve beat arsenal, Bayern, palace, Man City and Newcastle. It’s hard to play when you don’t your 2 important players not playing.

  • @thereckon3592

    @thereckon3592

    7 ай бұрын

    @@aryan.4855 And Shaw, he was very crucial on the left. But even if they were to be back, I'm not sure how their form would be at the beginning at least. We need more quality players that fit for the club and fight for the club but I think we first need a proper scouting department and top quality in the football directors chair or we'll be spending a whole lot on nothing as usual.

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@aryan.4855excuses...you had your best team at Anfield and G-Tech last ssn, and you still got hammered

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@thereckon3592bad pkayers, quapity players, average players, passengers and bech warmers...you don't know who you gna get...so 4get about systems, tactics, culture, identity etc...on the day just play the ball as it lies, and adapt if you have to

  • @montana6832

    @montana6832

    7 ай бұрын

    @@aryan.4855it’s already been reported in the times they’re looking at replacements

  • @Youtuber-ku4nk
    @Youtuber-ku4nk7 ай бұрын

    Compare with Westham last season. They were close to relegation and even in the relegation zone, but this season they have turned it around.

  • @lilysl3797

    @lilysl3797

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, but they won conference league and now plays in europa league

  • @GennySavastone

    @GennySavastone

    7 ай бұрын

    What are you on about

  • @g_pazzini

    @g_pazzini

    7 ай бұрын

    Man Utd is not WestHam, my friend… Man UTD should have been a world class club…

  • @parinag

    @parinag

    7 ай бұрын

    They should appoint David Moyes as manager again 😂

  • @Youtuber-ku4nk

    @Youtuber-ku4nk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@g_pazzini Dream on. There has been something rotten about it for many years.

  • @gratefulkm
    @gratefulkm7 ай бұрын

    Journalist , "we know Man U are a hard club to turn around at the moment" "well if he cant turn it around now, Fast , he has to go" And that's a prefect description of insanity

  • @QuintoAlvarez

    @QuintoAlvarez

    7 ай бұрын

    The point that people are making is that although it takes time to turns things around, he must be sacked when things get worse. He was manager last year and did a good job. This year he got a bunch of players he wanted. And the results are just not good enough.

  • @Noirlore

    @Noirlore

    7 ай бұрын

    He has to go in the mind of the fans…he’s reporting on the fans

  • @abdmagic4854

    @abdmagic4854

    7 ай бұрын

    @@QuintoAlvarez saying these are all the players he wanted is a lie. The guy went with what was left and people are forgetting that this has happened to every other manager after SAF. Let's also remember that every other club is cared for by it's owners in a way that shows because they all have a DOF while United had none for about 8 years now or more.

  • @phillawrence5148

    @phillawrence5148

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@abdmagic4854So he didn't want Antony or Banana or Casserole? Ok

  • @abdmagic4854

    @abdmagic4854

    7 ай бұрын

    @@phillawrence5148 loooooool Casemiro wasn't his first option. Antony and Onana we can say yes and he defiantly wanted Mount which I blame him for. I'm not saying he isn't to blame for somethings but the fact that we have seen this with Moyes(didn't really get a chance), Jose, Van Gaal, Ralf and now Ten Hag it's pretty clear it's the players but more so the higher ups and the structure as Ralf said before he left.

  • @KemzA658
    @KemzA6587 ай бұрын

    Although it's easier to get rid of the manager it's about time they start to ship some of these players who have been sub par under multiple managers. At what point do they start realizing it's not the manager but the players

  • @Mohammed-dz4yd
    @Mohammed-dz4yd7 ай бұрын

    It would take : Analyzing and fully understanding why the 4 or 5 predecessors coaches failed. It is a waste of money to keep applying the same solution to a problem while knowing it hasn’t worked for 5 times.

  • @bjvu9460

    @bjvu9460

    7 ай бұрын

    or, or, or, they can keep trying different coach until they find the right one. I have never seen a problem get solved by doing the same thing that was not solving it. Now, with that said, the players at manu are not as great as everyone else think they are and their greatness is being over valued due to them wearing a manu jersey. None of the manu players would be starting on City, Liverpool, new castle, arsenal because they are not better than the players that are starting on these teams !!! I once met a moron from harvard and people thought he was a genius because he went to harvard! Sometimes the name of the institution creates an illusion that the person in it is better than the other person that is somewhere else

  • @imo098765

    @imo098765

    7 ай бұрын

    @@bjvu9460 Luke Shaw would start for City, Arsenal and Newcastle. Martinez would start for City, Newcastle and Arsenal(who tried to sign him but he said nope) Onana would start for Arsenal and wouldnt be out of place at City, its just Ederson is so good with the ball at his feet you cant replace him his save stats around actually that good A fit Varane would start for Arsenal, Newcastle and Liverpool I just noticed something, the players that would actually do well at other clubs have all missed majority of this season, all injured. Its only Onana thats been fit and he had shocking start but since than penalty save seems to be doing well

  • @williamc9578
    @williamc95787 ай бұрын

    The closest comparison to ManUtd now is Chelsea. Both big clubs, both ready & willing to spend like money is going out of fashion. Both have big fanbase. Both have dysfunctional owners. Both have high and perhaps unrealistic expectations. In ManUtd's case, as Jan said, they've tried a steady hand in Moyes, then a hugely experienced Van Gaal, then they went for win in every League "Special One" Mourinho, then they went for fan favourite OGS, then to "behind the scenes maestro" Rangnick, and now Ajax progressive bright young Mgr Ten Hag. Short of trying an Italian or a Spanish manager (just use Nationality as a criteria), they've literally tried everything. Maybe get Ferguson back?

  • @alone2break

    @alone2break

    7 ай бұрын

    So basically, Roy hodgson is next. Got it.

  • @lancerevo9747

    @lancerevo9747

    7 ай бұрын

    Maybe put a sock in it and relax, because ten Hag is going nowhere.

  • @BrandonLawrence

    @BrandonLawrence

    7 ай бұрын

    both have American owners, thats the most important point

  • @WolfofAsia012

    @WolfofAsia012

    7 ай бұрын

    Get a quality experienced manager like Carlo Ancelotti (when RM fires him) and let him steer ship for good 5 years. And see

  • @williamc9578

    @williamc9578

    7 ай бұрын

    @@WolfofAsia012 not so sure. Carlo didn't manage to turn things around at Everton, and didn't leave it in better shape when he left. He is not known to be a fixer, but a fantastic manager of elite teams. He certainly knows how to win things. But then again, so does Mourinho. He's also agreed to take the Brazil job after he leaves RM.

  • @GunnGunn10
    @GunnGunn107 ай бұрын

    I'm not a fan of any PL clubs, but I do really enjoy ETH work at Man United. I hope he continue for many more years

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO41827 ай бұрын

    Funny how angry Stevie gets with Dan! 😂🎣

  • @Nnny792fhgf34
    @Nnny792fhgf347 ай бұрын

    Dan got put in his place hahahah. Well done Stevie 👏

  • @anthonyb3514
    @anthonyb35147 ай бұрын

    Steve's argument on any coach wanting to take the United job works if you've had no idea on what's going on at United for the last 10 years and still have a 90s/mid 2000s view on what coaches look for when considering their next job.

  • @monsieurcherry

    @monsieurcherry

    7 ай бұрын

    No, Stevie is spot on, all managers have big egos and belief in themselves. Imagine being the coach to take United back to the glory days of SAF, that’s the mentality coaches have.

  • @sethmurphy3516

    @sethmurphy3516

    7 ай бұрын

    Stevie is spot on if you have a brain and aren't taking a job for a hefty bag. You're thought process is part of the problem and I'm not even a MU fan so tbh keep on keeping on ya donkey 🤣

  • @kf_01

    @kf_01

    7 ай бұрын

    Are you for real? Imagine a coach not believing in themselves and refusing to take a job with the biggest paycheque they'll ever see. Any confident coach will take that job. ManU squad looks decent on paper, so obviously a coach that believes in themselves believes they can turn things around. What are you smoking? You shouldn't be a coach in the first place if you don't believe you can turn a decent squad around.

  • @strangerweirdo9963

    @strangerweirdo9963

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@monsieurcherrythat would be the Career ending for any managers lmao

  • @jswats92

    @jswats92

    7 ай бұрын

    @@monsieurcherrythe manager that times their entry to ManU with the contract expiration of Rashford, Maguire, Bruno, and others that have overstayed their welcome will be successful. Until then it’s best for managers to stay away

  • @OneSoccers
    @OneSoccers7 ай бұрын

    Amazing🔥❤

  • @cyrile.6754
    @cyrile.67547 ай бұрын

    Eric Ten Haag is definitely the problem. Recall that the manager was given complete control over signings. Look at the cabbage he had bought over his almost 2yrs. The man has bought rubbish and has actually depleted the team. I am certain the manager takes all the blame.

  • @krongsone6943

    @krongsone6943

    7 ай бұрын

    Its his fault that He signed mount, antony, amrabat, who can't start against Mancity he should be sacked.

  • @superman01011
    @superman010117 ай бұрын

    Pulling the trigger on ETH won’t solve the problem however it’s the purchases that ETH made who are ultimately letting him down. Those players at his disposal clearly aren’t up to it. Go get the youth from within the club and give them a go

  • @cliveparkes3405
    @cliveparkes34057 ай бұрын

    Even if they sack the manager the problem will be there same way cause these players come in like they own the club you can't talk to them

  • @jojolouis
    @jojolouis7 ай бұрын

    " no coach would refuse to go to a big club"...well we're not talking about going Manchester united at the moment then... but of course there is the money side: if going there with lucrative wage and a 20 millions clause in it if you get sacked, that could change your outlook of anyone.

  • @0jama
    @0jama7 ай бұрын

    We're just never gonna blame the players huh?

  • @finfog4590
    @finfog45907 ай бұрын

    Ragnik, Ronaldo and Sancho have spoken up about the issues at the club - all ostracised. I think the club is stuck in a time warp pre 2010. Very reluctant to evolution.

  • @Contextualiser16-tn8nd

    @Contextualiser16-tn8nd

    7 ай бұрын

    Stop giving that charlatan Rangnick credit for something Jose Mourinho did 4 years earlier and in real time

  • @finfog4590

    @finfog4590

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Contextualiser16-tn8nd I know Jose spoke out too (and was seemingly correct), but Ralf doubled down on it which is good.

  • @pikachu832

    @pikachu832

    7 ай бұрын

    And what have those 3 players done for man utd recently? Exactly, nothing. All talk and complaining and no action. Way too many "experts" and leeches at the club who think they know better.

  • @russellward4624

    @russellward4624

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea Sancho is the guiding light. A player with an attitude problem at 3 different clubs. But he's totaly not part of the problem lol

  • @rashidkhalid3970

    @rashidkhalid3970

    7 ай бұрын

    Zlatan and chocolate bar comment 😊

  • @user-qr5fh6zl4v
    @user-qr5fh6zl4v7 ай бұрын

    The problem is not the players nor the manager but the club are the training equipment good to the standard for the club when you don't good training equipment u can't do well

  • @tauseeful
    @tauseeful7 ай бұрын

    funny how the fans shat on Mourinho the most and he has the best stats for all the managers

  • @Triple_X_X
    @Triple_X_X7 ай бұрын

    My grandma and her old friends FC have been registered in Championship.. They'll face United in the FA cup..United will certainly lose comfortably to my Grandma FC ..They should sack him then

  • @thereckon3592

    @thereckon3592

    7 ай бұрын

    If United loses to your Grandma FC, it's absolutely the players that need the sacking more than the manager.

  • @thomasyates616

    @thomasyates616

    7 ай бұрын

    GFC will smash them!💯

  • @inzykhan415

    @inzykhan415

    7 ай бұрын

    Go grannies 😅

  • @monokumaxd1943

    @monokumaxd1943

    7 ай бұрын

    @@thereckon3592Both need to go.

  • @obongo96

    @obongo96

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@monokumaxd1943no united as an entire organisation need a reboot

  • @aamir7993
    @aamir79937 ай бұрын

    In football, two things are very important, first, to pass the ball very quickly and accurately. And secondly, all players should fear the coach. But we have not seen this system in this club until now, sorry. 🙈

  • @andrewmikic
    @andrewmikic7 ай бұрын

    Yeah because sacking managers has worked in the past.

  • @ogreat20
    @ogreat207 ай бұрын

    Stevey Defending De Zerbi taking the job is my best ESPN FC moment of all time. Stevey🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @brandankelly4069
    @brandankelly40697 ай бұрын

    Good points Stevie on de Zerbi.

  • @MisterrSZ
    @MisterrSZ7 ай бұрын

    the fact that people blame the glazers at this moment is embarrassing, almost the full starting 11 is Ten Hag players... if he's not getting these players like he wants to that his problem

  • @PedroPorridge
    @PedroPorridge7 ай бұрын

    Manager is trying to change the style of play give him time

  • @coderite_
    @coderite_7 ай бұрын

    12:00 😂😂😂😂 Stevie complicated himself.

  • @kanereeves4866
    @kanereeves48667 ай бұрын

    Love these guys

  • @ChrisGrande
    @ChrisGrande7 ай бұрын

    They need help in the midfield. Casemiro good but Fernandes is too spotty and mount is not a mid. SM is great for Scotland and a decent sub. But they need a beast in the middle.

  • @redpillknowledge1578
    @redpillknowledge15787 ай бұрын

    They shoud have put heated debate in the title 😅😅😅😂

  • @larrytan16
    @larrytan167 ай бұрын

    Ronaldo said standards have dropped since he was last there. Instead of supporting him to raise standards, ten Hag stupidly pushed him out the door. de Gea won Golden Glove and ten Hag stupidly pushed him out the door. This manager doesn't seem to know what he's doing.

  • @ste123samurai
    @ste123samurai7 ай бұрын

    I mean from a sense point of view De Zerbi shouldn't leave Brighton for Man U. I think for united a better manager would actually be Thomas Frank. I think he more than deserves a chance at a bigger club and i think he would suit the profile of player at united more.

  • @SampoSaarela
    @SampoSaarela7 ай бұрын

    On paper it doesn't look bad... Man, there is 2 or 3 players who could get into the top 5 clubs as free agents...

  • @diadiecisse3089
    @diadiecisse30897 ай бұрын

    I agree with the old fart. It’s up to a good manager to take up the challenge of bringing out the best out of his players. Under a good manager, some of these guys could be world class. Bruno actually got the skills to become great. Same with rashford. And we all know how good casemiro and varane are when the team is actually well coached. The truth is ten hag has reached his limit and it shows. No matter how hard it gets, never show sign of giving up. Players pick up on it and before you know it, you’re gone!

  • @nsouck7620

    @nsouck7620

    7 ай бұрын

    Bruno, Rushford, have always been average players. They have never performed in an exceptional way to rate them as excellent players. The entire team is poor. Unfortunately, it's the manager who pays the price all the time.

  • @myp0h

    @myp0h

    7 ай бұрын

    "Under a good manager". With the exception of OGS i THINK all the managers at man U are good managers. They just cannot get a tune out of the team. So they may need to sack directors and playera.

  • @dominicomusi8753
    @dominicomusi87537 ай бұрын

    Did Dan forget that his job is to moderate the discussion and not obstruct it?

  • @maggifatai4497

    @maggifatai4497

    7 ай бұрын

    ..bit hard to resist being a wind-up merchant when you've got a cantankerous Scotsman Infront of you😂

  • @TH-c1k2

    @TH-c1k2

    7 ай бұрын

    He is facing skillful Steve,. Fjortort, Frankie and Hi-slop

  • @myp0h

    @myp0h

    7 ай бұрын

    😃 Dan is always ready to stir up Steve.

  • @mercboy111
    @mercboy1117 ай бұрын

    Agree with Jan and Frank, spot on!!

  • @GinOYYYY
    @GinOYYYY7 ай бұрын

    All the managers we had never was vocal around the touchline. That is the biggest issue with the players. They can do anything on the pitch and no one is visibly making them know that. Ten hag , ole, mourinho, van gaal they never did say anything or isnt shouting at players when they are doing something. These players need that. Keep on shouting at them when they do something wrong and next time they wont be repeating the same. Every manager that came in had a calm attitude near the pitch they just analyse everything on their systems and everything is said in the dressing rooms thats what is wrong. Players are getting away with everything they do on the pitch.

  • @thztan7492
    @thztan74927 ай бұрын

    When Stevie & Dan argue they looks like father & son argumentation😅😅😅

  • @danika181263
    @danika1812637 ай бұрын

    There was a big difference when Ferguson was working under the Glazers .. .. he had David Gill and they operated as partners for a decade .. .. EtH is trying to do everything by himself 🤷‍♀️

  • @ecofriendly0

    @ecofriendly0

    7 ай бұрын

    He sacked all the previous staff members and used his agent kees vos for all his transfers, what else do you want to give him?

  • @bjvu9460

    @bjvu9460

    7 ай бұрын

    Manu at that time was seen as a great club as these old timers keep saying. Those days have long gone and players today, dont need manu to have a big name recognition and win trophies. There is no reason to go to manu when you can get the same thing at chelsea, liverpool, new castle, brighton, man city , spurs, arsenal etc. Even the players at manu dont respect manu and view it as just another team ..

  • @Richieraul67
    @Richieraul677 ай бұрын

    Well if he loses to Fulham, Copenhagen & Luton then it’s inevitable imo

  • @jwcwyoutube
    @jwcwyoutube7 ай бұрын

    Players can break manager or make manager good... Players train all time they know what to and do not do.

  • @Bigfoot985
    @Bigfoot9857 ай бұрын

    Let’s also hold Tan Hag responsible for being a terrible talent scout. How do you coach both Antony and Kudus at Ajax, and think Antony is remotely better than Kudus? Turn around and pay 100mill for Antony and let Kudus go to West Ham for 40 mill?

  • @xiaotianding2825
    @xiaotianding28257 ай бұрын

    cant imagine how much money he spent but still got this results

  • @Dapo.m
    @Dapo.m7 ай бұрын

    Thanks jan!!

  • @nwo4-Life
    @nwo4-Life7 ай бұрын

    Time to bring in Conte! That will spice things up! 😂

  • @oliverprincemanavira2524
    @oliverprincemanavira25247 ай бұрын

    I'm a liverpool fan but if United manages to convince DeZerbi to be their manage ,I will be very worried. He has got the charisma to be a coach at a big club. He will even turn around Maguire into a top center back ,look at those Brighton defenders now and with the playing capabilities of Onana he can build a fantastic team

  • @russellward4624

    @russellward4624

    7 ай бұрын

    Didn't they say the same about Potter taking over chelsea?

  • @lethalchocobo1886
    @lethalchocobo18867 ай бұрын

    Nicol proving us why he never could by a high-up at any club.

  • @BrandonLawrence

    @BrandonLawrence

    7 ай бұрын

    he don’t need to

  • @ademsems
    @ademsems7 ай бұрын

    Stevie asked how often do you get a chance to manage a club the size of Manchester United. I'll answer and say every other year apparently, just look at how many coaches they've had recently lol 🤣🤣🤣

  • @angelbadillo4511
    @angelbadillo45117 ай бұрын

    Everyone complaining that a coach needs time and I’m just here observing how spurs are succeeding with someone who has been there for years and not losing anyone important this year.

  • @ogbonnachibuike4616

    @ogbonnachibuike4616

    7 ай бұрын

    Give it to the end if the season or next if spurs would still be doing well.

  • @train_xc

    @train_xc

    7 ай бұрын

    Because the coaches are just not good enough. Expect Van Gal, who was past his prime & Mourinho, who Utd should have backed instead of Pogba. Moyes, Ole, Ralf and Eric didn’t prove anything before coming to Utd

  • @rashidkhalid3970

    @rashidkhalid3970

    7 ай бұрын

    Spurs have levy like him or not his actually a smart guy spurs don't have the financial muscles of a Chelsea Newcastle united so he has to work with a smaller budget

  • @druid7734

    @druid7734

    7 ай бұрын

    even when ole came after mou left, he was winning almost every game till they came back to their old ways. its just the honeymoon period, soon he will struggle. A season is a years worth of football, a lot of challenges happen especially towardss the end.

  • @angelbadillo4511

    @angelbadillo4511

    7 ай бұрын

    @@druid7734 the thing is no on like the guy the PE teacher style or did he even have one? Mou got that trash of a team an undeserved 2nd place. Ang has a CV and results to compare, Ole was just borrowed some some team in his country since he was an assistant coach out there. Even sir Alex won something before joining man utd

  • @davinnicode
    @davinnicode7 ай бұрын

    I can only see a manager with a character like Klopp turning things around at Man United. He has shown it in the past that he is capable of revamping struggling massive clubs so that within these clubs a winning mentality is lived by every single responsible person. Question is: Where does one find a manager like Klopp? There are not too many out there…

  • @xmryeofuren

    @xmryeofuren

    7 ай бұрын

    totally agreed..

  • @melvinlee2628

    @melvinlee2628

    7 ай бұрын

    wonder why big ange was not scouted when he was winning titles almost everywhere he's been (granted those were not in the most high profile of leagues but it still takes a winners' mentality to actually get the job done)

  • @lexkanyima2195

    @lexkanyima2195

    7 ай бұрын

    You think a manager with character will fight against the board ? The boards has the power

  • @awartank

    @awartank

    7 ай бұрын

    Please don't. It'll spoil another good manager's credentials

  • @imo098765

    @imo098765

    7 ай бұрын

    Klopp, you mean Edwards. Klopp didnt want Mane and Salah but was given them because the DoF decided they were better signings for the club. That just proves how important having competent people above the manager can be, imagine having arguably Liverpools best ever EPL player not wanted by the manager that made the manager succesful

  • @ethelbertcole8906
    @ethelbertcole89067 ай бұрын

    Thank you Frank

  • @anakLA
    @anakLA7 ай бұрын

    Fun show

  • @maxvain
    @maxvain7 ай бұрын

    ETH did this to himself. He is a Dutch league level coach. Backing guys like Anthony with others at his position, playing Rashford at #9 early in season, focusing on pressing rather than buildup, poor substitutions, poor player development and lack of adaptability. Poor decisions right around. Ownership drama is a serious issue and problem, but regardless of that, we still have players that should be at least 6th in the league overwhelming lesser competition!

  • @ankitrawat4736
    @ankitrawat47367 ай бұрын

    I'll keep backing if he loses the games but for that he has to show his style of play no matter how many matches you lose but there should be a clear pattern.

  • @alibobsmarland9572

    @alibobsmarland9572

    7 ай бұрын

    So if he loses the next twenty matches but plays the exact same style of play you will still back him? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

  • @ankitrawat4736

    @ankitrawat4736

    7 ай бұрын

    @@alibobsmarland9572 then atleast I wud have the clarity what he is trying to do. Till now thr are no patterns.

  • @krongsone6943

    @krongsone6943

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ankitrawat4736 Shouldn't that be a reason to sack him. Ange, De zerbi, Pep, Klopp didn't need more than 1 season to implement their style of play.

  • @alibobsmarland9572

    @alibobsmarland9572

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ankitrawat4736 A season and a half in charge and still doesn't know how to find a playing style that suits his players. He's spent 60 mil on Mount and doesn't play him as he has to shoehorn Bruno and Rashford into the team no matter how badly they are performing. Spent fifty million on Onana to try and play out from the back despite having defenders who aren't comfortable n the ball and sixty million on an unproven forward who has zero Prem goals.

  • @ankitrawat4736

    @ankitrawat4736

    7 ай бұрын

    @@krongsone6943 I totally agree with that if he's playing that way to save his job then definitely he needs to go. I agree thr are no patterns he should leave. Klopp without having players last season played the way he does.

  • @christianwag3015
    @christianwag30157 ай бұрын

    Klopp & PEP are smart enough to not spoil their resume at this banter club 😆😆

  • @yeasirkhan5786
    @yeasirkhan57867 ай бұрын

    Ten Hag with Ajax showed way more impressive work than De zerbi in Brighton. Why are they so confident that De zerbi will fix the issues?

  • @nathanmcguckin9518

    @nathanmcguckin9518

    7 ай бұрын

    Not really lol doing it in a pub league don’t mean anything he’s been found out

  • @nnamdiagina2223

    @nnamdiagina2223

    7 ай бұрын

    Ten Haag is a horrible manager. Look at the way ange has changed spurs squad

  • @BC-mj7gj

    @BC-mj7gj

    7 ай бұрын

    @@nathanmcguckin9518Yeah they eliminated Juventus and Real Madrid in the pub league

  • @PedroPorridge
    @PedroPorridge7 ай бұрын

    Managers need time not 8 months 18 months 2 years even 3 years if you choose a manager for Cod’s sake stand by him and give him time. Judge him after 4 or 5 years not after 10 games

  • @theshadowmaster560
    @theshadowmaster5607 ай бұрын

    Nothing like shouting over each other. Great conversation skills there lads 😂

  • @deedogg1679
    @deedogg16797 ай бұрын

    We THE FANS know its not the manager,so why is the media trying to sack him

  • @jamesjenkins8364
    @jamesjenkins83647 ай бұрын

    Honestly I think they lose at fulham, and also lose at Copenhagen, and THATS where they will have no choice but to sack him.

  • @ZamaCPT
    @ZamaCPT7 ай бұрын

    Maybe Potter can work some magic?

  • @tvgcmma9215
    @tvgcmma92157 ай бұрын

    They need to get a dof new head of football operations in before any manager and once that in place they can then build up again over time and gradually they the players out the door don’t want and on big money

  • @someenchilada
    @someenchilada7 ай бұрын

    As a Utd fan, if eth is sacked the only manager I would accept is will still. Let’s take this experiment all the way. 🎉

  • @dalmarbentley498
    @dalmarbentley4987 ай бұрын

    Man U has a player problem, not a coaching problem.

  • @robertwilkinson4435
    @robertwilkinson44356 ай бұрын

    Fed up hearing the same thing from ETH we need too improve we will improve same old story. Plus the players need too look at themselves too

  • @okwaresimpet1418
    @okwaresimpet14187 ай бұрын

    Eras come to an end... ETH, on challenging Pep & Klop😅

  • @trevorclarey3336
    @trevorclarey33367 ай бұрын

    What about the players ?

  • @thatbubbleman
    @thatbubbleman7 ай бұрын

    With four previous managers of absolute quality, couldn't do it either -Stevie Nicol So Ole was "absolue quality"? Great punditry

  • @nikohowai8
    @nikohowai87 ай бұрын

    the next 5 games.. depends on those results I think those are winnable games for utd, if they somehow lose 3 or 4 and perform poorly then I don't see how ETH will survive..

  • @trx3696
    @trx36967 ай бұрын

    Swap ten hag and poch and see if it that works as crazy as sound i think ten hag profile at chelsea is better they need a proper playing style aggresive tactics and since man utd need a long term project ad rebuilding poch will fit perfectly

  • @jamescampos2140
    @jamescampos21407 ай бұрын

    any coach at UTD is going to disappoint, there is not support upstairs and when the going gets tough at the club the players tend to become subpar and turn on the coach and the cycle repeats. They need a new culture before a new coach comes.

  • @sk.towhidurrahaman4764
    @sk.towhidurrahaman47647 ай бұрын

    The soft guys did not work in Man Utd. Because the club was used to have a tough guy like Sir Alex. They need guys like Antonio Conte who will force changes

  • @Contextualiser16-tn8nd

    @Contextualiser16-tn8nd

    7 ай бұрын

    Somebody with sense

  • @bjvu9460

    @bjvu9460

    7 ай бұрын

    Alex would not have done any better than what is going on now because times have changed . Nothing stays constant! Now, every dynasty comes to an end and alex probably say the writing on the wall and decided to vacate his position while he was still afloat instead of dying on a sinking ship .. If the guy was that great, he is still somewhat involved with the club and could help with drawing up plays but his time of relevance is long gone.

  • @creepinasicrawl
    @creepinasicrawl7 ай бұрын

    Manchester united's biggest mistake was sacking Louis Van Gaal. He was steering the club in the right direction, developing and playing youth prospects. club and fans wasnt patoent enough to see it through.

  • @10bighikes58
    @10bighikes587 ай бұрын

    man if it weren't for United, ESPN FC wouldn't have a show.

  • @davegoodwin1950
    @davegoodwin19507 ай бұрын

    I rex, if he don't get out of that comparatively easy champions League group, that'll be when he's weighed in Mebbiz after crimbo the most. They need a replacement manager and an adequate one would cost shitloads AGAIN

  • @randyschwaggins
    @randyschwaggins7 ай бұрын

    The ultimate issue is not the manager...its the players. There is still a poison in the dressing room...something ManU fans thought was erased after they got rid of players like Pogba and Lingard. But it's still there. Personally I think Rashford and Shaw lead it...and they are followed by others like Sancho and Wan-Bissaka....even Fernandes and Anthony. ManU have leaders who could have kept those players in line...like Maguire and McTominay...but they have been stripped of power. Until these issues are sorted out there is no point sacking the manager. No one can succeed at ManU right now.

  • @eddmich8947
    @eddmich89477 ай бұрын

    Hey, you know what? I don't know about you guys, but personally, I think it would be pretty awesome if Hansi Flick to come to England. Just saying!

  • @GlotzFC
    @GlotzFC7 ай бұрын

    You say we’re going in a vicious circle because you always report on Utd more than anyone. How about mentioning Arteta’s and Klopp’s first 2-3 seasons as a relative comparison?

  • @philwong6051
    @philwong60517 ай бұрын

    Does not matter who the manager is...... It's neither the owners nor the board or ETH on the pitch delivering such results........ The media is barking up the wrong tree, take aim at those on the pitch, not those off the pitch.

  • @eyeweekly6677
    @eyeweekly66777 ай бұрын

    Imo eth shouldn’t be sacked but he shld be clearly told to get in a style of play regardless of us missing the top 4…. We need to take a couple of steps back to jump forward.

  • @jswats92
    @jswats927 ай бұрын

    Dan is right, it would be really dumb to join United since they are unable to turn over players. No manager worth their salt will join United mid season

  • @bjvu9460

    @bjvu9460

    7 ай бұрын

    you have a loser perspective and winners dont think that way. Winners defy the odds and losers wait for the perfect time to take an opportunity. There is a reason they call it a turn around ! I bet ten hag if fired will not have any problem finding another mediocre job because those are a dime a dozen but to be the guy to take manu back to its glory days, is a once in a life time opportunity. Its more fulfilling if I won at a club that wasnt already a winner before I got there than to join a club that was already crushing it , winning another trophy.

  • @Matt-001
    @Matt-0017 ай бұрын

    ETH isn’t the problem! You can bring in as many coaches as you want and you can sack as much of the coaches but the problem still remains. Last season Rashford was at the level he ought to be and United did well and this season he’s like the others and United are suffering. What does that tell you??? Those players ain’t good enough! United need an overhaul of players.. Rangnick said it and Mourinho made a funny statement about this same players... They don’t even play up to an average level... When will the blind owners and management see the true problem of United???

  • @Chase10995
    @Chase109957 ай бұрын

    Potter went down that road.

  • @HG-kn3hb
    @HG-kn3hb7 ай бұрын

    Managers won't mind signing with MU for the full payout when they got sacked even they can't turn the team around.

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