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@Simcore999

3 жыл бұрын

The key difference, is the price right

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

@@Simcore999 If the features matched yes, but the Wago gives a lot more and if you are buying 10,000 of them I guess it adds up but for repair and home work the difference is insignificant.

@Simcore999

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal Yes, I would use the wago for medium length projects and for short term the other with souder for long term!

@Avaddon911

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal I don't see them replacing the wire nut for this reason alone.. They'll never be cheaper. But if somebody screwed up and ordered stranded wire they're awesome 😂

@mobeydick37

3 жыл бұрын

When you pre-twisted the wire nut I believe a large amount of the current and heat was bypassing the wire nut joint. Try that same test without pre-twisting the wire like the instructions state please.

I've been an electrician for almost 4 decades. Industrial, commercial & residential. I'm just an old guy with an opinion, but I've seen a lot. I've opened many j boxes, troubleshot tons of circuit failures, and have seen hundreds of wire nut failures. Here's my opinion, do what you want with it. Due to the thermal expansion and contraction cycles present in electrical systems, over time wire nuts work their way loose and even fall off. I used to blame the previous electrician for not tightening the nuts, but eventually realized it's the wire nut at fault. A twisted splice inside a box is so rigid that it puts more strain on the connection, prohibiting this natural movement. The connection is the weak link, hence the failure point. I use the push in versions exclusively as I believe that the levers could be accidentally popped open when packing the j box. These spring loaded connectors don't loosen up, allow the conductors to swivel and flex easily within the box, eliminating the tension on the wires. You can feel the difference when packing the box too, so much easier, no stress on the conductors. These are not the same as the push in connections on cheap 50 cent receptacles, those are junk and should never be used under any circumstances! I have used WAGO products in the worst industrial chemical processing environments, along with residential applications, since 1994. They hold up better than anything else. I was extremely reluctant and skeptical early on as to their durability, as wire nuts were the gold standard in a trade with rigid beliefs of what works and what doesn't. Now I use them in every application that I can, with no hesitation whatsoever. I keep in touch with my customers, no callbacks ever. I am not an electrical engineer, I just play one in real life!

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate you sharing this and I have also opened many boxes and had the same experience. It's a terrible feeling when a wirenut is sitting there loose or on the bottom of the box. Thanks for sharing your real life experience.

@jokerace8227

3 жыл бұрын

Just dealing with my own personal electrical issues in 1960s built Idaho houses, I've discovered loose wire nuts in light fixtures and behind outlets. Never was sure if they're meant to be one time use devices, as in after the first twist on and back off they're garbage not to be used again, but they sure seem to be exactly that. I much prefer the Wago style connectors after being introduced to them by a master electrician friend. They grip solid and braided wires of various gauges way better than stupid ass wire nuts ever do for me, brand new or not.

@davemeise2192

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave Nag. Even though I'm not an electrician I have wired a few houses, wired a barn that we converted to a clubhouse, wired some additions on mobile homes, replaced breaker panels etc. I don't have a lot of experience but I have some and I have also discovered loose or fallen off wire nuts while doing electrical renovations. I always wondered why that was the case. Thank you for saying stuff no one else seems to be willing to talk about. I just learned about the WAGO connectors and I think they are awesome. If I have to do any electrical work in the future I'm going to use them.

@TonyGingrich

3 жыл бұрын

I'm tempted to disagree on the thermal expansion theory. But unlike others with stronger opinions, I've come to realize every electrician has worked their own careers full of unique experiences. What I have seen, very often, are nuts loosened due to vibrations--whether from their own current or from an external source. My opinion on thermal expansion is that it shouldn't be a problem for correctly sized wire nuts securing leads with appropriate slack (yet another reason to "always leave an extra loop"). My experience comes from only 5 years in a prior career as millwright--maintaining mostly high-voltage 3-phase circuits. Due to a near daily exchange of various motors to/from across the plant, wire nuts were our best option. That said, I personally do not like wire nuts. My opinion of them is not terribly different than of other splices. Except that the exposed bottoms are a fire risk, in my view. When I have no better option than to use nuts, I always wrap a strip of electrical tap around the bottoms to guard against foreign objects making their way inside. Across the board, and aside from that one personal issue with nuts... I have never really known a "perfect" splice. The best way to compare them is by their contexts. The correct splice for a given situation is always the best splice. Whenever possible and rational, I solder my splices.

@blitzblutz

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Licensed electrician here (31 years of experience), and I love the Wagos! They’re a little expensive compared to wire nuts but certainly have their place in my tool pouch.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

If I were an electrician, I think the extra $$ would be worth it for me to not have to use wire nuts. Still, you could always try to upcharge the customer by telling them they're getting the proper connectors in their home... LOL

@pedjagasevic251

3 жыл бұрын

....and faster to finish great job.

@ChristophPech

3 жыл бұрын

Those wagos are 25 cents a piece. If this saves you 18 seconds of time it's already cheaper than free wirenuts would be.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChristophPech Absolutely.

@brianglade848

3 жыл бұрын

Deez nuts

If you want to do more. It would be interesting to see how the Amazon/Ebay knockoffs fair against the Wagos.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Those things are scary! Good idea though for a video. I appreciate it.

@maxximumb

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal I'd like to see that video too.

@gpadog

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal If you do that test , could you include Ideal, sold at HD, Lowes ? I had half a house rewired with the home depot ones before I started to see the "experts" recommend staying away.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

@@gpadog I will check those ones, I really have not been a fan of any push in only connectors (wago or ideal) mostly because they are a pain to remove and they don't work with stranded well at all. The Wago 221 lever models shown are what makes them great. Easy connections, disconnections and work with mixed wire, solid stranded, etc. But I plan to run some tests on many other brands and models soon.

@Dansk55

3 жыл бұрын

This guy did the older style ones. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIRk06qyhqTfnbg.html

Wirenuts... that’s really nuts... Thankfully not allowed in Germany... Wago is really good stuff!

@juliushollmann9938

3 жыл бұрын

If they are allowed in Germany they have to be good😂

@kleinfeicht

3 жыл бұрын

EU BE LIKE get away with cheap crao get real working producst... We don't build just wood houses we build for eternety

@FullMetalFox2

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliushollmann9938 Well, WAGO is a german company XD

@IshIKoara

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliushollmann9938 He said they are NOT allowed in Germany.

@DrKlausTrophobie

3 жыл бұрын

@@IshIKoara You got it wrong: Wirenuts are not allowed here (in Germany). We used screw terminals in our junction boxes. They fell out of favor decades ago because spring loaded connectors (like Wago 273) proofed to be better.

You have every tester known to man. I have tester envy.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

I buy almost all of it used that tester has stickers on it for the jet propulsion lab so who knows what it's life was before.

@matthewnelson7759

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t be testy now

UK spark here, terminal block connector used to be the standard here but wagos have pretty much made the terminal block connectors obsolete

@db-bv5rs

3 жыл бұрын

Wrapped in some bodge tape😂

@planespeaking

3 жыл бұрын

They're a lot cheaper though and work just fine.

@db-bv5rs

3 жыл бұрын

@@planespeaking maybe cheaper but then they are screw terminals which loosen over time. Hard to fit 3 wires in a terminal and when you put bodge tape on it and you come back to add another cable you basically have to cut the wires because it’s so hard to take the tape off. And it is a bodge.

@ChristianWagner888

Ай бұрын

Same in Germany. Growing up, I only saw screw terminal connectors, but then Wagos became the standard a few decades ago.

Been using Wago connectors for years in industrial environments and they are flawless. One great advantage is to successfully join wires of drastically different gauges. Some sensors and actuators have pigtails not terminal blocks. If the wiring standard from the control panel is #14 AWG and the sensor has a #20 AWG pigtail, twisting together is difficult but using a Wago makes life simple.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this, I didn't go into this much but its awesome to be able to connect such different sizes safely with these. I appreciate you sharing your actual real word experience, you can see many others are terrified of the unknown!

@johnh8546

2 жыл бұрын

I work for West Fraser as an industrial electrician and West Fraser does not allow the use of Wagos. They did for a while but ran into problems with them. Why might you ask. Saw dust it gets in everything and the Wagos do not hold up as well. They tend to get stuck on the wire.

@johnh8546

Жыл бұрын

@@shawskeebennett1440 yes saw dust gets into wire nuts as well. The difference because wire nuts have no moving parts it doesn't seize them up the same.

@joedanero5360

6 ай бұрын

@@johnh8546 It sounds like you should've been using lugs or something else better suited to the environment. This isn't a fault caused by the connector. It sounds like it was an individualized learning experience for a specific niche business.

at 3:00 wouldn’t a lot of current be passing through without ever reaching the wire nut, since the unsheathed wires start connecting below it? Why go so easy on the wire nut, I wanted to see it fry. :)

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

I will be re-looking at that possibility. Maybe I did go too easy on the nut!

@nathandanner4030

3 жыл бұрын

I had a picture somewhere that is of a wirenut that got melted off a circuit where the plumber was running a "Mule Threader". The wires had melted in such a way that the wirenut was in series with the wire in the circuit. We don't know how long it was running that way before the breaker tripped.

@markstrim

3 жыл бұрын

You twisted it so much before the wire nut it didn't need a wire nut!

@timsawyer7443

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal so, first of all, @BLKSG6 was just making a valid point, and not being critical. Still, so many people would have been offended and gotten defensive, but you took it in stride as the suggestive comment that it was clearly meant to be. And it sounds like this might even become a followup video, and that I'd like to see!

@aaronaaron6424

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, just a twist where the nut goes on and spread wires slightly apart below that. Would be interesting to see.

Nothing beats the wago when you've got to join stranded wire with solid. I'd say that's the main advantage over a wire nut. Also much easier when you need to test. When adding a branch to an existing circuit you don't have to struggle with twisted up wire or cut and re strip. Not to mention all the hand twisting and tightening you won't have to do.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree, every time I use these *and I have been for almost 10 years) I am still amazed at how great these are.

@casemodder89

3 жыл бұрын

There are even other kind of wagos for plain solid wires. Without lever. Just fw/rev turn the connector and pull the chosen wire at the same time to release or push it in to make the connection. Dont know if they're available for the murrican market in AWG. But on this side of the pond they're available in metric 0,75sq. mm - 10sq. mm Even smaller then the 221 but ofc can't take stranded wires. 2-3-5-8-16 holes available for the (over here) standard 0,75 - 2,5mm2 version. Dont know about the bigger ones but saw upto 3 hole ones in 6-10mm2 version.

I have a sneaking suspicion that most if not all people with complaints only have experience with knock-offs.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree with you. The knockoffs are horrible.

@osgeld

3 жыл бұрын

that and people can be pretty dumb, I had some guy fussing about them trying to jam 20awg stranded wire in some of the non levered connectors meant for 14awg romex "these things suck I will never buy them" sigh

@hermand

3 жыл бұрын

Especially the one swho think Wagos are weak. The amount of time I've caught myself with those spring loaded clips and "ouch" - once it's locked, they're going nowhere

Because of the Wago 221 connectors, it makes electrician work just a little bit more fun and easier. I truly love those connectors. I wouldn’t go for anything else because of their ease of use. Whenever I buy electrician stuff, if they have the 221’s, I always prefer those. And the 222 by the way is also a very good one, but they’re a little bit bulkier, So I prefer the 221’s always!

I just started using the Wagos. I attribute the resistance to people resisting change. Some people that have been around usually resist new technology and just bash it instead of giving it a chance. I work in the Technology field and see it everyday.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree, I know without a doubt the most of the haters here have never used a Wago 221. I am NOT in favor of all push type connectors, not even Wagos push in only models. The 221/222 series are the best thing they came up with hands down.

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

I attribute the resistance to less conductor contact area.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

Software engineer here. Agreed. Once I tried Wago, I dumped all of my wire nuts and Ideal push-ins where they belong... In the trash.

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs and away we go!

@walterbrunswick

3 жыл бұрын

I'm already sick and tired of these (senile) people! We would still be living in mud houses with straw roofs and using washboards, if it was up to them smh

As an electrician of forty years I'm impressed with the Wagos after seeing this test. I would like to see the same test on non-Wago brand type connectors, such as the type that come with recessed light fixtures. They are stab-ins with no levers.

@ElkStirrinTheHoney

3 жыл бұрын

Electrician of 16 years.. I fear WAGO's abilities with amperage draw, and maintaining pressure on the connection over time. The lever type WAGO's do seem to resolve this issue. But this test gave me a new found respect for WAGO's. I wonder if twisted wire diminishes the abilities of the WAGO. Great video though. I will be sharing it.

@im2yys4u81

3 жыл бұрын

I love Wagos. I'm through with push ins and wire nuts.

@ElkStirrinTheHoney

3 жыл бұрын

@@im2yys4u81 push in's are also wago's.. they just aren't the lever type.

@ElkStirrinTheHoney

3 жыл бұрын

My issue with wago's, is that it's not always possible to just add a wire, when needed. Like when you have a 2 port wago, and then need a 3 or 4 port wago. Now you've bought 2 wago's, when you would have been fine with 1 wirenut.

@im2yys4u81

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElkStirrinTheHoney I bought an assortment online. Came with 2's, 3's and 4's. Sooner or later you'll find a use for the 2 port. I understand what you're saying, but me personally I'd rather buy what I need. Worst case scenario you end up with some strays, but sooner or later you'll use them.

3:10 You're using uninsulated wire. When the're twisted like that and contacting so far down (wich wouldn't even be possible with insulated wires) a lot of currennt can flow through the contact point in the twist, completly circumventing the nut.

@toddravenholt9860

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I came down to post. It's not a fair test.

@Quentyn73

2 жыл бұрын

Yet, that would be an argument against the twist nut connection, no, or you're thinking that the twist cap will be able to withstand higher temps than the wago?

@MrNeutross

2 жыл бұрын

@@Quentyn73 it's just not representative of how to nut would be used IRL. Copper should not be showing outside of the nut. Bare Copper only i side the nut.

@curtisbme

2 жыл бұрын

@@Quentyn73 All they are saying is that the nut would probably have gotten hotter that the 170 if the connection was only in the nut as it would have been if the wires were insulated. I'd guess the wago would still have been hotter but I'd assume the gap would have narrowed. Not that it matters for practice purposes as they both proved they can operate beyond their rating (for at least a little while).

@glasshalffull8625

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis!

I've spoken to people who *thought* the wago could come undone too easily, it turned out they were not opening the lever fully to insert the wire, they thought it only opened to about 45 degrees ...

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That is crazy! Yes in that situation the connection would not be good!

@fredeisele1895

3 жыл бұрын

The clear wago allows visual inspection, the wire nut does not.

@senoJSR

3 жыл бұрын

Morons that should be working at Amazon NOT doing electrical installation

I gladly realized that Americans start using WAGOs instead of those horrible wire nuts. Appreciate it! Greetings from Germany!

@Ozymandias1975

3 жыл бұрын

Amerikanische Elektro-Installation erinnert mich an die weltbekannte albanische Luxus-Automobilindustrie

@HolgerJakobs

3 жыл бұрын

Even using just 110 volts causes the current to double compared to the 230 volts used in most countries. The US are so far behind in many respects. Using imperial units for instance.

@zihechen3111

3 жыл бұрын

The chance electric sets fire up and kill u is much higher than it go through ur body and kill u. 110v is just a fking dumb idea usa is still believing

@AceBurn90

3 жыл бұрын

US Americans measure in everything but the SI system.... I hope for your best that finally the first generation learns what a Scientific Unit with easy to convert factors is. But it will take 2 or maybe 3 generations until everyone understands the advantages and also applies them. Especially with temperatures you can already see a clear advantage. When I see the °F, I could puke.

@chrisb6866

3 жыл бұрын

I call horseshit!.. Read my previous reply

Been using the Wagos for a few years now. Absolutely love them. They're great when connecting wires above your head. Just easier for me to group the wires together. Also very convenient when the person before you cuts the wire in the junction box too short and it's difficult to access the wire

@HobbyOrganist

2 жыл бұрын

You bet! and nothing worse than trying to get 3 or 4 twelve GA wires all lined up to wrestle a wire nut on!

@UltraGamma25

Жыл бұрын

​@@HobbyOrganist This

@ppdan

5 ай бұрын

And if you need to modify something you can just undo and redo everything without having to cut a single wire. tbh if you undo a wirenut the cleanest and best way is to cut off the heavily twisted part of the wire before using a wirenut on it again. After a few modifications your wires will become too short.

I recently purchased some of these WAGOs ( before I saw this video) and they’re great. I can’t see ever going back to wire nuts again. BTW, mine are being used on a 30 amp circuit for a 5Kw unit/garage heater.

@cmotdibbler4454

3 жыл бұрын

WAGO also make a 30A rated version for up to 6mm^^2 wire

This is reminding me of Project Farm, great video!!

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Now that is a compliment but he is a whole other level but maybe someday! Thanks again

@sprinterdiscovery

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal You'll get there! You just need 1.3m more subs - just give it some time and more great videos like this! :-)

@RefurbishedBacon

3 жыл бұрын

Yep no joke this + project farm are my go to channels lately

@TheMattThompson

3 жыл бұрын

Collaboration time!

@smallengine

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMattThompson that would be cool!

I have to admit when you posted these connectors in your other vid I thought hmmm time will tell. But after watching this very informational video I am sold. Congrats on the growth of your channel by the way. This could be the viral video haha.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that thank you

@sonarun

3 жыл бұрын

After watching Sparky Channel, he totally sold me on the Wagos and that's the only thing I use in my home.

@RealitaetsverlustTV

3 жыл бұрын

Time allready did tell. WAGO connectors have been used for decades all over the world especially in Europe.

@matekochkoch

3 жыл бұрын

I use them since the late 80th

I’ve switched to these and have used them for several projects in my home. They are easy to use and give me a higher sense of security over wire nuts, as I too, have had issues with wires in wire nuts not getting properly twisted. Thanks for the video!

Test 4: we set our test home on fire to see how the connectors held up...

@smccomas01

3 жыл бұрын

House burned down but the connector was still good lol

@Dmiller7239

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO 🤣

What an outstanding video! I've been using Wago nuts for my home remodel projects, mainly for pigtails for my GFCI outlets to isolate them from downstream outlets. Loved seeing them hold up to these extremes.

If you're REALLY worried, the slightly larger 221-6xx range are rated to 30A (UL) or 41A (IEC). That means that for the vast majority of domestic circuits you don't need to think twice. An assortment box of 221 series and 2273 (push wire) Wagos has pretty much replaced every other connector in my toolbox. I've got a couple of strips of connector block for emergencies, and crimps and heat-shrink for making joints in trunking, but for most domestic work (and a lot of commercial/light industrial) there's really no contest. They're also handy because I can get more useful work out of less skilled labourers - it's pretty much impossible to make a loose connection, so provided I can visually inspect their work before closing up then we can get much more done in a day.

One big mistake in this comparison: in the overload test, the Wago connector was carrying all of the current. For the wire nut, you pre-twisted the wires, and they were touching below the wire nut...thus current was being passed between the wires where they were in contact instead of all of the current passing through the wire nut. Otherwise, you would have likely seen higher temps at the wire nut during maximum overload.

@seanchinery

2 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought. He literally says he's going to hear shit if he doesn't twist them and then proceeds to twist to a degree that is not possible reducing the overall resistance.

@NickFrom1228

2 жыл бұрын

@Craig Dendy I took his statement to mean the amount of twisting he did was far more than a typical example. So, real world would be stripped insulation of 7/8" or so of a current carrying conductor twisted together and capped with the nut. In the video they guy took ground wires, which means unlimited conductor length (vs 7/8" stripped) which means more wire is in contact and not the same as the real world use. Instead of saying "instead of all of the current passing through the wire nut" he should have said "instead of all of the current passing through the conductor only under the wire nut"

@brewer13210

2 жыл бұрын

@Craig Dendy Sorry dude, these connectors are UL listed to UL 468C "Splicing Wire Connectors", the exact same standard used to certify wire nuts. The testing these go through is far more rigorous than the tests shown in this video, and no, they don't wear out over time.

Just seeing you pre twisting the wire nuts, makes me want to use the wago.

Another german here. Just want to point out that the WAGOs with levers are usually used for temporary connections. Not that it is or isn't code but these are expensive in contrast to the regular ones. I worked for a company that was very reluctant to switch to push connectors. Oh boy, the stories of burning server rooms and what not. But for 20 years now, they are a staple in the field. We got them now almost everywhere. RCBOs, outlets, switches and whatnot. It made everything a lot safer and faster to build. All the oldschool connectors had the 3+ wire flaw. Any movement, vibration, thermal cycling could work screw terminal loose with 3+ wires in them. So in training we were told to tighten the screw, twist and work the wire and then tighten it again so that the wires would fall into a stable position. Well, some folks did't think it was important, or worked against the clock and got sloppy. What i wanna say is that i believe these connectors are more idiot proof. Should an idiot ever become an electrician? Hell no! Will there be idiot electricians? Yea, sadly. And there is also the kind that is like "what? 45 bucks/h, i do it myself, youtube and wikipedia is all i need" So if that at least contributes to families not burning due to stupidity, i'm down. Cheers.

Having seen WAGO connectors used in Germany for many decades, I have full confidence in them and wired my whole house using only Wago connectors. They are also more efficient to use and provide great time savings as well as flexibility when changing some connections. With a 20A circuit breaker, a 40A current would be disconnected by the circuit breaker within 30 seconds, according to a Schneider Time Current Curve data sheet. Thus, in real life, there will be no overload of 40A or 60A for 10 minutes while circuit breakers are functioning properly. Overloading 12AWG wiring for 10 minutes or more with 60A could cause serious problems with the electrical insulation of the wiring in the wall, which is rated at 60 to 90 degree Celsius. Thus, any circuits overloaded in such a way would have to be physically examined for damage and possibly changed. The Wagos would be the least of my concerns. Thankfully, circuit breakers don't usually fail in such a way, but I have seen people swap 20A circuit breakers for 40A or 60A in order to accommodate a high-powered appliance or an old style welding machine. Maybe this only happens in the Philippines...

I used the wago today for the very first time. It was crazy easy to use and I love that I could see the wire to make sure it was all the way seated properly. I am a fan!!

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

They also have testing ports on them, so you can stick your multimeter probe right in and test for voltage without disconnecting. (Look for the port, you'll find it!) I hope someone told you about that.

I love Wago lever connectors. I discovered them about a year ago, and now it's the only thing I use. What I have noticed is that the clamps sometimes come up a little bit, so what I do is wrap the Wago with a 1/2" piece of color coordinated electrical tape (black tape for hot, white tape for neutral, green tape for ground)v to lock the clamps closed. I haven't had a single issue, and I've used probably over a hundred of them in my house. I definitely recommend them.

Great video! It's nice to see these being put through their paces. There are so many conflicting opinions but these do seem to hold up very well.

Master electrician here. I've long been a fan of pushin, levernut, and wire nut. I keep all three and they all have their place. I'm glad you did science on these. Now I have a video to show. I've done a lot of remodels and seen 20 or 30 year old wire nuts. Even the old tech holds up just fine. I also extensively use them on motors. In every single failure I've seen, it's been due to an improper connection being made. You have to pretwist. When you work the wire into the box, you change connection angles, and you can't tighten inside the box. I've seen, at minimum, dozens of failures specifically from this, and catastrophic failures from the resultant arcing. Moral if the story is the connector is only as good as the installer.

4:38 only in Mass where you'll wear t-shirt and shorts outside when there's snow out LOL

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Hehehe you got that right! We are definitely insane here.

@pertyslick6171

3 жыл бұрын

Alaskan here to confirm this statement is in fact false ;)

@chrisanderson8553

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal Amen my baystate brother!

@zacharykallinen9838

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah ok so you've never been to the midwest

@snoopdogie187

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacharykallinen9838 Its 40 F right now I'm wearing very similar clothing, with a foot of snow on the ground. Cold places just get used to the cold.

Well that answered every question I have. Great info as always!

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

That's really the nicest compliment I can get, glad you like it.

European electrician here. We use Wago for everything. They are perfect if used within specifications. Most important thing is respecting the ratings... There are wagos rated for higher A if needed.. but generally you will be using 221 everywhere and be fine. Small tip: if you have a full box and are worried about the clamps opening when you close it, just wrap a bit of tape around them to avoid accidentally opening the clamps when pushing the wires in.

Wago 221's: I have these damn things all over my house. I love them to death. I've never had a problem with them! They don't shake loose, they most certainly can't be "flicked off" with a finger, and they absolutely are reliable. I keep a stock of these little guys (212s and 213s) on hand all the time. I start to panic when I run low. Wire nuts? Push ins? No thank you. I'll stick with my beloved 221s, thank you very much. Also, according to one guy that works for Wago, it's pronounced "Wah-go" not "Way-go". However, he DID say "You're free to call them anything you want!" LOL

We have been using these kind of connectors for decades here in Europe. I honestly couldn't imagine messing around with these wire nuts and having to twist the wires first. By the way: The series 221 connectors come in two sizes and ratings. The bigger ones are capable of taking up to 10 AWG wire and 32 Amps.

@hotratz69

Жыл бұрын

Only the in-experienced will pre-twist the wire for wire-nuts, Not at all necessary and not recommended by the manf.

I like your load tester; brought back a lot of memories. I bought one of those (used) for a calibration lab I worked for many years ago. Never saw another one like it before or after.

Good video. The biggest problem I foresee with the wago connectors is the same as the problem I have seen with the back stab connection used on many receptacles and switches. The problem I have found over the years is that with circuits that have higher current flow and are cycled frequently the blades that hold the wire in theses type devices tend to weaken due to the heating and cooling effect of the use cycle. This heating and coiling effect apparently changes the molecular structure of the metal causing a lose of tension on the wire. I know, a lot of people say I am just and old school guy, but I say if it ain’t broke why change it. First I must say I have never used the back stab connectors in my 45 to 50 years as an electrician. I have changed a lot of receptacles and switches over the years however. I can honestly say I have never in all those years went back to a job I did to replace a switch or receptacle because of a loose connection. But if people choose to use them, it is good job security for electricians, but not me I am retired.

@ppdan

5 ай бұрын

Do not compare crap backstab receptables with Wago products!

@ChristianWagner888

Ай бұрын

This is your theory, but has been refuted in practice. Wagos are not backstab connectors. The material and mechanism is quite different. They have been used in Germany for decades, and electricians do not have to go back to redo them. They are expected to last as long as the whole house wiring without the spring connectors loosening up, which would be beyond 50 years. Therefore, Wagos don't provide "good job security for electricians".

Great info...but would of liked to see pull test on the wire cap !

@Roxst4r17

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly that’s the only thing I wanted to know

@tpasco1995

2 жыл бұрын

The wire nut, when applied correctly, should be fine for about 50-100 pounds, which is meaningless since you should never have wire supporting a load in the first place

In germany we only use Wago's, these wirenuts are pretty damn sketchy in my opinion.

@OtisFlint

2 ай бұрын

I don't like wire nuts, but they actually work fine when used correctly. They're annoying and outdated, but not hazardous.

i didn’t see what the pullout strength would have been with the wire nut (especially when the conductors are NOT pre-twisted). Would it have held tighter or less than the Wago. Otherwise, many thanks for putting this demonstration together for us.

@orion7741

3 жыл бұрын

If you are applying them correctly, they would hold on tighter when not pretwisting the wires because the wires will twist as you tighten the connector and it all gets super tight.

@russellhaskett6830

3 жыл бұрын

I would put money on needing over 100 lbs of force to pull off the wire nut, and then the wires would still most likely still be connected.

@DKWalser

3 жыл бұрын

@@russellhaskett6830 So? Properly installed, the wires should be secured with a strain relief connection. The wire connection -- whether secured with wire nut or a Wago style connector -- is not supposed to be bearing weight. This is a case where, once something is sufficient, more isn't any better.

@cmotdibbler4454

3 жыл бұрын

@@DKWalser Yeah I don't get where people are coming from with that argument, if the wired are under tension you fucked up and have no place playing with electricity.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

@@russellhaskett6830 Your comment needs an asterisk at the end of it: *Assuming the wire nut has been correctly applied

Became a sparky in the UK many years ago but now work and live in Germany and must say,will never go back to connector blocks. These Wago‘s are so well engineered it‘s unreal! Great test by the way 👍🏻

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, glad to hear your good experience and the kind words.

@cmotdibbler4454

3 жыл бұрын

I'd still take a "choc-bloc" over a wire nut through (Wago FTW through)

I used wagos for one main reason. They’re rated for 20 amps, and they use a spring to hold the connection constant through temperature and humidity changes. I don’t worry about a wire slipping out of a wago, it’s positively locked when the wire is in place proper I love them.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder if the jackass that claims to be able to "flick them off with his finger" is either just a loudmouthed jackass, or doesn't know how to connect a wire. I'm sure they're VERY easy to flick off if it fails to make a connection. LOL

Good vid, I just have a single reservation, the cables were pretwisted well outside of the wire nut, at least 1”, to the point that the current between the wires flows without going much through the wire nut, wich make the contact area much bigger and dissipating the heat much better. Have you left the cables insulated out side the wirenut, as in real use, the outcome might’ve been different.

@jimyeats

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent point.

@DjDuncman

3 жыл бұрын

Most people twisting wires (ground wires especially) aren't trying to make a twist that fits inside the nut perfectly. I agree that it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but it does seem realistic.

@Cautionary_Tale_Harris

3 жыл бұрын

Noticed that, too. ALL of the current in the Wago test had to go through the connector. Very impressive---I'll order some of these connectors now.

@DrewSoucy22

3 жыл бұрын

@@DjDuncman Ground wires don't apply to what we're testing here, though. You want this test to be as if it's the live wire, so no -- it's actually not realistic.

@DjDuncman

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrewSoucy22 It's the same gauge wire, so current flow/capacity is effectively the same and is limited by the wire gauge, not the twist. Any difference with ground wire vs an insulated wire is trivial at best. A properly twisted pair of wires doesn't need the wire nut for the circuit to function. The wire nut just ensures the wires don't untwist while also insulating the ends. Properly done, the wire nut isn't even part of the current path, while the Wago is part of the current path. Not realistic? Fine, it's realistic enough though.

Directly beforehand: I'm not connected anyhow to Wago, besides I'm German :-) Here in Germany we're using these kind of connectors for decades. I myself rennovated my house six years ago - all electrical connections are done with Wago: most with standard and whenever to connect to a flexibel wire with the ones seen in this video. I do not buy/use the cheap ones, because I want to still wake up in the morning...🤔 By the way during the house renovation I found some of these (old) twisting connectors. I guess they are from the 70ths when this house was build. So, they are reliable, for sure, but the Wagos are much faster during installation and especially if one wants to change something...👨‍🔧

I am an electrical enthusiast from Pakistan. Never knew a comment on American channel will make him shoot a whole video. You guys are great this answers all my questions.

@THESOHAILKHAN1992

3 жыл бұрын

I never thought it will make it above 10amps. This thing is strong. Never seen one here.

Used these types of connectors (Ideal) in commercial applications, for years, and have never had a problem

Exactly as expected, the wago conducts all the current, whereas the wire nut conducts some, but most conduction is through direct contact of the wires

@cmotdibbler4454

3 жыл бұрын

It helped that in this test there was about 2" of wire twisted together that would have (hopefully) normally been in insulation rather than just bare live wires hanging about ready to kill someone.

Love IT why you tested those two connectors now in the US. Wago connectors are already used like 10 years in the EU. those twist types are concidered museum pieces here in the Netherlands

@HenryLoenwind

3 жыл бұрын

10 years? LOL. I first encountered them in '86...

I wish I was your neighbor. "I wonder if..." would lead to some great driveway fun. I enjoy that you rise to the challenge.

Tests were fair & well done. Thank you for the info. Nothing you found changed my mind. I'll use the Wago connectors.

@DavidStrchld

3 жыл бұрын

Yes good job, however I would have liked to see the wire nut twisted as it would be in the field, in this it was twisted well below/outside the wire nut. All the connectivity and thus the heat should have happened within the wire nut, and none before it. I suspect the wire nut would have heated up further. Another thing I would have liked to see is multiple connections as is common in a circuit. Something like 3 or 4 of each in series, representing down stream circuits using the respective connectors, and perhaps a combo of wire nuts and Wago's and see which one gets hotter.

We used Wagos all over our robots in FRC, and we had them running off 40A fuses. That's all I needed to know they were solid!

@carlossosa9017

3 жыл бұрын

We used them for CAN stuff also during a competition during 2019 we lost 2 drive motors on swerve to crimp connectors so yeah those arent that good against vibration

@justinvzu01

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlossosa9017 That's an inherent fault with connectors like these. You want connectors that are soldered to the cable and clip together.

Saw a different video on Wagos and bought a box of 3-conductors for a simple job I was doing (not an electrician). Twisting wires and screwing wire nuts on has always been a pain. The Wagos are easy to use and even let me make a simple change without turning off power (ok, electricians, I know you do this too so don't complain). I was moving a light switch but needed the light to work while I was adding the wire so I used the Wago as a temporary switch. When the other wires had been installed I was able to easily add the second Wago and move the wires around without flipping the breaker (yes, I added a blank cover plate so I could get to the splice box--1906 house with lath and plaster so not easy to simply cut through the drywall). I will be adding more multi-conductor Wagos to my toolbox.

I am almost sold on these. I understand expansion and contraction. Seems like under normal loads Wago is a good choice. I have seen many wires work loose even under normal loads. I still think more connection area would be better BUT you have tested and shown these are much easier to work with. Thanks for the follow up tests!

Way to go Wago! I've been an industrial electrician for over 50 years. I've seen a lot. Sometimes when developing control schemes and varying connections temporarily etc., I have found Wagos to be quite convenient. I like Wagos, this video just reinforced that liking!

been using wago for more then 10 years, never had a problem with them, and way faster then a wire nut.

Controls guy here. Wagos are the shit. So much easier, much more wire flexibility, and less chance of a loose connection. Plus, people don't try to shove waaaay too many wires into them. I don't care what any sparky says; I will always prefer them over wire nuts. The only down side to wagos is the price.

What some people will not appreciate is that running 3 times the rated load doesn't generate 3 times the heat output, but 9 times due to the power dissipated being the square of the current multiple by the resistance. In practice, it will be a little worse as the resistance will also increase somewhat with temperature. So the heat generated at a sustained 60A might be 10 times higher than at 20A sustained.

May I suggest a follow up test: Wago versus the Chinese knockoffs on Amazon.

@darrentylor5473

3 жыл бұрын

If it isn't properly rated IE: CSA or UL You should not be using it...

Great video. I'd like to see a follow up with the wire nut on insulated wire, where the connection is entirely in the last 3/4" or so vs the 3" of twist in the bare wire we saw here. Maybe twisted vs untwisted too.

Gr8, and timely, video. I recently came aware of these (wago) connectors while getting ready to replace my smoke detectors throughout my home. the new style "final mile" electrical connectors require my removal of old and reconnect of new in order to complete the task. I randomly noticed these units as a replacement to wire nuts (of which I've used throughout my life), so I bought a 100 pack off of amazon. I too, was somewhat curious as to their viability, even though I'd made the decision to "try n see" how they would perform. I can honestly say that since seeing this video (and reviewing some comments from electricians) that I'm moving full steam ahead on this project with full confidence. thank you all......... oh, and I'll be using them on my next project (workshop/storage building) over the remainder of this year.....

Awesome video. I have a background in electronics and do all my own electrical work at my house. No offense to electricians, but I really enjoy the work because it's a nice change from my current (lol) desk job. I've used wirenuts and Wago connectors. Wagos are great when you are connecting a large number of wires, grounds etc. I think the key is to buy Wago and not the knockoffs. Why save a few bucks on an unknown product, especially for something critical like electrical work. I've never used any other brand. I also only use Ideal wirenuts. If I ever do a large renovation, kitchen for example, I'll most likely switch to all Wago. This video is awesome and you have a great kit of test tools. One followup - Don't use the crappy wirenuts that are included with light kits or ceiling fans. Most are garbage.

Your videos are hardcore. I never knew these wago connectors existed.

@Sersch001

3 жыл бұрын

But how?

Great explanation. I never had any doubts about Wago. Always looked highly superior.

19 years licensed electrician here. A year and change ago i decided to start testing my connections. Butt splices, crimps, wirenuts and waygos. So our results actually line up and maybe I should of done the orignal footage to KZread, but its other places. Regardless, our results are similar and I used a welder for the power supply going up to over 100 amps for the yellow and red or tan sized wire nuts using 14, 12, 10, and 6 awg wire.

As an electronics engineer, the Wago connectors are something I've only been introduced to in the last several years, They work great for low voltage applications. I only recently started seeing them used in commercial electrical applications this year...Im only speaking for my local area, of course. Wire nuts have always been the norm. Where I have always seen problems is that our "low voltage" product with stranded wire is normally wired up by an electrician who typically only has solid conductor wire on hand and wire nuts can just be hard to use when connecting both stranded and solid wire together. The Wago works well for both types of wire. I am of course talking about products that draw less than ten amps @120VAC but the Wago really makes connecting stranded and solid wires together very easy.

There is still the question of longevity...when something is heated up and cooled repeatedly for a period of time. Certain plastics degrade faster than others. Love your work!

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Very true. I didn't attempt to cover that since it wouldn't have been accurate since even lab testing isn't really the same as time itself but the track record in europe on them has been excellent and for over 40 years.

Wago definitely makes a great product. The lever connector takes up much less space in the electrical box than a wire nut, and it is much more reliable too.

I see a lot of post from the electrician side of things, figured I would share my input on the low voltage side as an electronic engineer. Great test from what I have seen. I have watched a lot of other videos on the comparison and was appalled with some of the misleading things I have seen in other videos. I think one of the biggest things to note is that wire nuts will generally always work at a cooler temperature based on how they work. With the Wagos, you are creating a bus that all current needs to run through. In doing so you are creating a specific point where all the heat will be transferred to. With wire nuts, the wires themselves will be the electrical bus, thus not adding any additional resistance at the splice point. That being said, I am very much a low voltage technician and do not have to worry about excess heat like an electrician would have to. Because of this I do believe both types of connectors have their applications. For me wire nuts are the best bet when connecting up many low current draw devices to a single power supply (in excess of 5+ 20 gauge stranded conductors). When working on electrical outlets in my own home, I tend to use the Wago connectors for three way switches as it does have a cleaner look and tends to be more space efficient. Great video, and to anyone reading this, use what you like best as they both have their pro's and cons and are well engineered.

I'm not a homeowner, or in the market for lawnmower, or interested in doing electrical work BUT damn it...I watch every vid with interest! You make such informative videos. I would watch you do car reviews or gaming tutorials. Keep up the great work.

Nice solid test! Good to know the absolute facts of using these.

Gallons, pounds and Fahrenheit, I have never been so lost in my life listening to someone speaking English.

@notahotshot

3 жыл бұрын

Is that because you are unaware that it is exceedingly easy to look up conversion factors, and apply them? Is it that you are one of those individuals who think someone else should have to do the work of converting the numbers so that you don't have to? Or, is it that you like to pretend that other systems of measurement never existed, have no reference in the real world, and therefore are impossible to ever comprehend? We could go back to cubits, stones, bushels, pecks, and witch's tits (as in "hotter than a).

@shadowopsairman1583

3 жыл бұрын

1 Gallon (128 oz) of water is 8 Pounds, or 3.8L. 0 Degrees C is 32 Degrees F, 100 Degrees C is 212 Degrees F

Thanks so much! This test was fantastic! I plan to start using Wago Lever Nuts from now on. Your test confirmed my decision. Thanks again.

Thank you so much for making this video! As an electrical contractor myself I really appreciate the tests you did. I suspect the doubt some have over these style of connectors come from residential electricians who take there experience from using the stab in connection for 14 gauge wire. The only outlets I've seen that offer that connection are made of low quailty material, giving that style of connection a bad rep. Don't judge a type of connection by the cheap outlet that employed its use.

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

I judge a connection by the amount of conductor in contact. Because surface area equals capacity. That's why we touch wires together to make a circuit. It is intimate contact that allows the flow of electrons.

I watch some videos and discover Wagos connectors. This is the best connector EVER! Ease to use and work with. Thanks for the test.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

I'm a Electrician and we only work with Wagos and i realy like them. Lg. From upper Austria

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Don't give out your address the US sparkies will come find you. Imagine using a better technoogy!

@davidprammer4764

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal true

Good video. One tip, the Wago 2273 is better for solid copper wires. I use Wago 221 connectors only when I need to connect a solid to stranded wire or stranded to stranded wire. The Wago 2273 is also better priced, approx. 1/3 compared to Wago 221 connectors.

Iappreciate your detail in explaining these. I’ve used wire nuts for years. I can see benefit for these especially in fixtures where it is a light fixture only or a ceiling fan. Thanks for the time to demonstrate these.

Very cool Video and test. Coming from germany I use those WAGOs for everything. It would be great if you could use °C or metric in general maybe as a text overlay or something so that we europeans can follow along a little easier :)

@Xhopp3r

3 жыл бұрын

Or you can just do the math, is not that complicated

@mrjakobt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xhopp3r We use the metric system, because we‘re lazy and don’t want to do math.

@CM-zf1qc

2 жыл бұрын

We use human measurements in the U.S.

@ElSelcho77

2 жыл бұрын

@@CM-zf1qc Just like Liberia and Myanmar. You know, Elite Countries.

@stefans8325

2 жыл бұрын

@@CM-zf1qc interesting so you got 12 fingers?

That should settle it. Good testing from you and Bill (Sparky) from sparkychannel likes Wagos as well. I'm certainly sold. Thanks for taking the time to show what's what.

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Suprised to see such discussions. These Wago Clamos are used by 99% of all electricians here in Europe by now. Fully certified by standards, there is 0 risk in using them. The main difference however is that we have 230 V outlets, so the average current is usually lower

I’ve done a lot of retrofit to my 1927 house over the past 10 years. I use both but when space is tight or short wire ends I’ll always use Wago. Much more compact. Glad to see a test showing equivalent performance, though.

LOL! Leave it to the Silver Cymbal to have the capability to run these tests and silence the doubters. I think the veteran electricians just like staying old school, which is perfectly cool. Change is sometimes hard to accept. Thanks for the great info as usual!🤩

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate it, I love how nice and calm everything looks on video. This one was very challenging to get set up but I really wanted to see it for myself just as much to share with all of you.

@cooper10182

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes change depends on Code Laws, though I admit these look better than the old nuts.

When you had the wego at 20 amps, that's all I need to know it's good to use, as most 20 Amp breakers trip before they reach 20 amps. Thanks for a great video.

@julianreverse

3 жыл бұрын

The 0,5 - 6 mm² / 20 - 10 AWG 221s are rated for 41A / 30A UL!

@cfaerber

3 жыл бұрын

Er, 20 A breakers are supposed to hold that current for… like… ever. They will only go off if the current exceeds the rate by a certain factor for a certain time.

Great video. Thanks! Actually I think you went easy on the wire nut. A typical hot or neutral connection would only be twisted together INSIDE the nut, so more heat would build up inside the nut. In your test, most of the current probably never passed thru the half-inch-long twisted portion inside the nut. I think that would make the Wago look even better!

As an electrician, I must say that I really like Wagos. I have only used the push on type with solid wire. I like that I can see if the wire is properly inserted. I cannot tell you the number of incorrectly connected, corroded, and or melted wire nuts I have seen in my career. I, knock on copper, have never had a Wago fail. I also like that I can easily rough in circuits and check them before they are enclosed by the wallboard. Then it is easy to add the device wiring when the walls are done by just inserting into the connector. This has saved me from mistakes in wiring by being able to confirm circuits while it was still exposed. Thanks for the testing. I will have to try the clamp type, especially if they will work with stranded wire.

Dude 95% of the world use celsuis. Maybe add those number to your vids in future as well. 👍

I've used Wagos over the last few years in cases where it was just easier using them because they stack easily instead of trying to jam wirenuts into a small box...I've also continued to use wirenuts. I think there are times when both connectors make sense...who said there had to be only one answer to a problem ?

Great follow-up video to the first video! You have proved me wrong. I admit, I am one of the "old school" electricians in the first video that called you and the Wagos out and you have convinced another traditional electrician to change his ways. The test you ran are sold evidence of the quality engineering of the Wagos. Again, thanks for providing great video evidence of this comparison. I am now a subscriber.

You mentioned it and you should test it as well, pre twisted conductors vs twisted with the nut. Just found your channel today an am looking forward to many more great videos like this one!

Great job with logical, thorough, and scientific testing! Intelligent people know that well-engineered and UL certified products can be used with confidence. However, I'm glad to see hard evidence stuck in the faces of all the Joe Specialists out there who pretend to know more about what aught and aught not be used. You know, the type of guys who are also ultra-opinionated about their favorite motor oil brands but really don't know enough about their vehicles to fill a mouse's tea cup.

@explorenaked

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with you 100%. I posted on the last video how at a company I used to work our ME lived by them for outlets and switches. Never once in my time there did we get any call backs due to any sort of failure. Paraphrasing what he said, use what you like and I would add, do it to code and do it safe. Great comment.

@ethelryan257

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in my 60s, and am still fighting with my apprentices about how much better these are to wire nuts. It's a mucho-macho thing.

@richardp3624

3 жыл бұрын

@@micahap1559 Red flags like what Joe Specialist? Is it common that 60 amps runs through no. 12 or 14 conductors? Are you feeling a bit pretentious today? Your use of emojis speaks to your intelligence level.

@notahotshot

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayo4300, please quote the exact part of the original comment where they said anything at all about wire nuts, particularly that anybody should be afraid of them. They said UL listed products can be used with confidence, that would include the UL listed wire nuts.

@notahotshot

3 жыл бұрын

@@micahap1559, "red flags" lol, you're an idiot.

I think that the Wagos seem more dummy proof. Wire nuts are so easy install incorrectly if you don't know what your are doing. Whatever saves the most lives.

@chrisjacobsen1659

3 жыл бұрын

What is this secret other than pretwist and torque it down? If it doesn't torque down and pass a tug test, bad conn. I'm just saying, it's not exactly rocket science. I prefer wire nuts because most of the current flows from wire to wire where they touch and not through the connector. In a wago, all of the current goes through the connector.

@Crazeddingo

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisjacobsen1659 How would you know to twist or to tug test if you dont know how to use the items. Hindsight is twenty twenty, once you know how to do something its easy. I mean what can be easier than e=mc2 right?

This is the first video I've found after an hour of searching that does an analytical comparison of the connectors instead of anecdotal evidence. I like your setup and would be curious to see the test expanded (ie. test multiple of each style and see if results are consistent). Another test point could be the resistance of the connection (directly correlated to heat).

Great video! I use Wagos since last year whenever I need to use a wire nut at home. The cool thing about wagos that you didn't mention is how better they are when dealing w solid and stranded wire on the same connection. If people complain of Wagos pulling out is because they are using fake chinese ones.

How much pull does it take to drag a wire out of a wire nut? I was waiting for the comparison test...

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

I can't give you an exact number, but (assuming it's applied correctly) it can take a lot. I think that's probably the ONLY thing a wire nut can say it does better than Wago. But again, it has to be done properly. If applied by someone who doesn't know what they're doing, a wire nut can be pulled off with almost no effort.

@oldvlognewtricks

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs ‘it can take a lot’ does not establish how it compares to a wago. In the video that wago was tested, but not the wire nut. I was only commenting because the tests in the video were incomplete.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldvlognewtricks and the point I was trying to make was simply the fact that it's utterly irrelevant. Whether a wire not can handle 10 pounds or a thousand, they were both strong enough to get the job done. In fact, I would say the Wago is better because it doesn't require any technique to properly apply. You can screw up a wire nut application, but you really can't mess up a Wago. When you push the lever down, it's either applied or it's not.

@oldvlognewtricks

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs Fair. This also follows for the load at which they fail - that video still showed the test for both components. Funnily the ‘technique’ point is often cited as as a reason wagos are bad and wrong - as if requiring knowledge or skill is somehow the same as objective virtue. Or it is insecure contractors desperate to defend their relevance through shibboleths rather than merit. Not that it’s important, but the main benefit from my perspective is that changing a wago does not require the wire to be cut and restripped to maintain a good contact, but this is true of a wire nut connection resulting in shortening wires as changes are made.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldvlognewtricks Absolutely!

Your voice would be great in a commercial!

@SilverCymbal

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe one day!

@diogor420

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilverCymbal can't wait to see it! 😉😂

Wago is pretty much the standard used by electricians in Germany since 35 years. I never saw anyone fail in my 15y of carrer.

New sub. I just bought an LED recessed lighting kit that used these Wago push-in connectors. Man, I had to push like crazy to seat them all the way into the connector but once in there was no way I could pull it out. I was concerned about overheating if there was a short or too many amps and this answered that question in spades. Great video.