The resistance test is also pretty important for short circuit currents. If you have a whole bunch of connections all over you want your short circuit fault currents to stay high so that fuses blow immediately instead of cooking and heating up places for a longer time.

@ChristophPech

2 жыл бұрын

A B16 Leitungsschutzschalter on 230V will trip instantly at 80A, which is 18kW and not exceed 2.8 Ohm. I once misconnected a Wago leading to a higher resistance and a nasty surprise. Since then I always measure the installation resistance of all mains circuits.

@mrdur2101

2 жыл бұрын

if you build up your electrical installation smart (only a few or no connetions) u dont care for that little resistens

@benbaselet2026

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrdur2101 Whatever you do you should know what you do.

@apigge8723

2 жыл бұрын

@@benbaselet2026 Good answer! Covers most anything!

@Tupsuu

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChristophPech Here in Finland we use mostly C10 and C16 circuit breakers and they require 125A and 200A of shortcircuitcurrent tested with a Fluke

The only other test I'd like to see is running high currents through them to see how much they will take. Other than that I do think this is really good information and I use Wago connectors in my house wiring all the time.

@tarakivu8861

2 жыл бұрын

Well, thats determined by the resistance they have which also tells you about power-losses in form of heat.

@KillerSpud

2 жыл бұрын

@@tarakivu8861 not entirely. It does not show how the housing would deal with the heat it looks like none of them would catch fire, but they will melt at some point and that would be very bad.

@patnutoris4054

2 жыл бұрын

All of them work well above what is specified for 2.5mm 2 cables. Check out kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIRk06qyhqTfnbg.html

@JoppedeZeeuw

2 жыл бұрын

He did test the voltage drop at 20A which was negligible. Even with the worst result of 80mV at 20A, that’s still just 1.6W which is less than most dimmer units for house lighting will have to dissipate. None of the numbers are of serious concern even when heat dissipation is difficult. Edit: I checked again and actually the worst result was 1.8 mOhm, which equated a heat production of only 0.036 watts. That’s nothing and maintainable 24/7.

@Magneticitist

2 жыл бұрын

It's like knife arguments. What's the best knife? I mean what's it being used for? Residential is fine. Wagos are great. Any kind of levernut really. I use them all the time. As for endurance I've never seen a levernut in an old plant that's been sitting there for 75 years+. I just see old wirenuts. When they are crumbling old wirenuts, most of the time they were just covering a tightly braided splice. If I want a high current splice that will never be removed and needs to last forever and even serve as a weight bearing splice if need be, I'm braiding solid copper then soldering it, and then twisting a wirenut over it if we're talking between wagos or wirenuts. If I'm wiring a light switch at home together or something I'm not really too concerned about what I'm using so long as I'm not trying to do some shit like hot glue wires together like jackass.

Confirms me in my experience: ViD Products are absolutely fine to use. German department store OBI sells the non-levered as their house brand, which should mean their certificates are most definetely not faked. And I had no issues when using those and the levered ones so far.

@kitecattestecke2303

2 жыл бұрын

Still no experience in the long run for just 6 cents cheaper per connection thats test would be mental to do on your own houses :-/

@arthurmoore9488

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitecattestecke2303 If the certs are genuine and they really are such a common brand, then I see no problem. Wago is the gold standard, but as others have mentioned the largest issue with knockoffs is quality control. That's not an issue from a company with a reputation to uphold. Also, Wago makes those extra hold down products, including DIN rail mounts that you can fit their connectors into. That's another reason they can charge a bit more.

@maltesartor711

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitecattestecke2303 The push-ins I bought as I ran out of Wagos for a job at my house. Certainly a lot better than the Luster terminals I replaced with them. The only real difference I noticed is, they are a bit harder to push in than the Wagos. The lever mechanism actually feels a bit nicer than wagos, though they are one for one a bit thicker. And I think they would have caused a bunch of housefires already in Germany if they are prone to it - craftsmen shop in department stores in a pinch as well...

@jimmyb1451

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitecattestecke2303 I bet you're vaccinated though. You don't need "long run" evidence. If we all waited around for "long run experience" before adopting a new product, we'd have nothing.

@Tobi_DarkKnight

2 жыл бұрын

Wie wo was weiß Obi.

I still can't wrap my head around why people hate Wagos that much. Yes, they're slightly more expensive compared to some other connection types and yes, if used properly, other stuff like wire nuts can be just as safe. But those are not foolproof and if used improperly, they might cause serious issues. That being said, Wagos are simply foolproof and much more convenient. Nice video, though.

@johnalexander2349

2 жыл бұрын

Other than paid shills, I can't see why anyone would claim that wire nuts are better. But as for "foolproof"... sadly, no. Once had a tenant that rewired a florescent fitting for a LED retrofit tube using Wago 222 blocks... shoved the wires in without lifting the lever. There's always a better fool.

@aimbuster1

2 жыл бұрын

i buy only wago. thats the way ( i dont not care about some cents ).

@ezurth

2 жыл бұрын

NEVER underestimate a persons ability to be a dumbass

@squee222

2 жыл бұрын

wire nuts if used properly provide a higher quality electrical splice. It's really that simple. Wago: DIY idiot proof. Don't need to know much. Wire nut: Good quality permanent splice not dependent on manufacturer to ensure continuity and ampacity but dependent on your ability t make a solid pigtail splice. Do you trust your skill more than a manufacturer? Than use a Wire Nut... if you trust manufacturers of connectors more than your skill, use a Wago.

@Kalvinjj

2 жыл бұрын

It's quite impressive how absolutely every field has mad raging fanboys and haters. I get it preferring one over the other, that's natural as everyone has different priorities on their selections, specially since both have their upper hand on some aspect than others. But to be hating like idiots and claiming bias and paid review if your precious loses? Damn...

Your style of video making is distinct, clean, and aesthetically pleasing. Writing things out is a great way to fill video space between key points, and it looks really good. Plus it's always relevant because the values/words are related to what you're talking about. And the nice penmanship on the clean white paper is very satisfying, haha. Putting the knockoff connectors on a paper and writing their points is a nice touch!

@gn6034

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah shame he makes the 1's look like 7's though

@AndyGneiss

Жыл бұрын

@@gn6034 That's just the typical handwritten German numbers, and German sevens also typically have a horizontal dash through them (which can help tell them apart). I found it weird when I first witnessed it in school with a teacher from Germany.

@tildey6661

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyGneiss everyone should be using a crossbar on their 7s

@OgbondSandvol

Жыл бұрын

As it was said for someone else here, in other video's comments: I bought a bunch of Stabilo pens hoping that I could get so smart as Scott, but it didn't work. And being left-handed also helps to make the handwrinting more appealing.

It's rather odd to trust the certificate markings on knock off products, unless there's an online certificate available, which can be fabricated too, but that at least will be something...

Some time ago I watched video where Wago connectors were being tested for extremely high amperage and as far as I remember 2,5 mm wire started to loose it's isolation due to heat and started to glow red before even anything happened to Wago connector...

@paulstaf

2 жыл бұрын

John Ward "Wago 222 Connectors vs Others, Testing Current Overload and Flammability" youtube video

@cdscissor

Жыл бұрын

Link for those who like convenience: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIRk06qyhqTfnbg.html

Cool. I'll just stick to using genuine Wagos though. They're the industry standard, and no one would ever question your use of them.

@adamw.8579

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Really industrial standard.

Thanks for the comparison; I was especially interested in the effective amperage through the connection (short time and long time) compared with what's indicated. Great video!

Very accurate testing and rating system. I wish all the brands were available in my area. The point about Wago themselves not being that much more per piece was an excellent conclusion. Absolutely great video!

The certificates part made me laugh. It's much easier to have CE molded onto knockoffs than it is to get the certification.

@theaifam5

2 жыл бұрын

Try to compare with “China Export” symbol 😂

@tyrgoossens

2 жыл бұрын

@@theaifam5 AKA the "Chinese Excrement" symbol.

@ulwur

2 жыл бұрын

CE is not a certification, but a self assessment by the manufacturer that the product complies with the standard, but no third party tests are required. So CE is only as good as the manufacturers conciense.

@MrARBlack

2 жыл бұрын

@@ulwur finally someone Who knows, thanks

@gowdsake7103

2 жыл бұрын

@@ulwur Ce kinda sums up everything wrong with the EU

Thank you for taking the time to research this! I thought your last video was very concise and i had never heard of wago connectors before then so thanks again for that!

@wolfgangpreier9160

2 жыл бұрын

And i always thought wire nuts are - nuts. 👍😁

@dans-designs

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolfgangpreier9160 dude since your comment, there has been 5 Fake accounts posting to various Adult websites! May need to check your Gmail settings and connected accounts bud!

@wolfgangpreier9160

2 жыл бұрын

@@dans-designs I am sooo lucky i don‘t use gmail! 😂🤣

@dans-designs

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolfgangpreier9160 hahah fair enough

Excellent video and thanks for your research and unbiased commentary - it is appreciated

big issue with knockoffs is quality control/assurance. They skimp in that area so although they might pass your testing a significant percentage of them (maybe one in a thousand or ten thousand) might be dangerous - which is an unacceptable failure rate for something meant to stop your house from burning down.

@GLITCH_-.-

2 жыл бұрын

Hm, fair point. But the connecters aren't fire extinguishers or sprinklers. :P

@Fifury161

2 жыл бұрын

@@GLITCH_-.- I think you miss the point - flawed analogy, fire extinguishers or sprinklers don't have the ability to start or perpetuate a fire. Insurance has a way of pointing blame at something that isn't certified or up to spec.

@m80116

2 жыл бұрын

In old homes is not uncommon that wire caps become oxidized, spark and fail charred. I still deem very unlikely that a hole in the wall start a house fire. It's all mythology pumped by distributors and electricians to better promote their job. Anyway... 1 to 2 way 3-color coded WAGO copycats it wasn't my choice: they don't exist per WAGO catalogue and they're incredibly convenient while cabling house 3 core wires.

@aaronporter2180

2 жыл бұрын

Scrolled down to make this exact comment

@LC-hd5dc

2 жыл бұрын

the other thing is since the knockoffs aren't really cheaper, why buy them?

i really didn't expect the slide connectors to perform that well

@UliTechMobile

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@UliTechMobile

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqJ5p5ewlZeperg.html

@Schatzjaeger2

2 жыл бұрын

And I would also not give it 3 points for ease of use. If it is already installed and you don't have the "tool" with you, it is not easy to use.

@Lena-qg8bd

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schatzjaeger2 i mean nails work just fine

@ConorNoakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schatzjaeger2 if you’re working on electrics and you don’t have the basic tools such as a small flat-blade screw driver then you should probably not start the work and get a professional instead 😂

your videos are so valuable thank you.

9:50 the most important thing is: .. the CE - certificate can be given by the company itself, "yup our product is europe compliant" - otherwise they cant be imported or even sold in europe.

@larkhill2119

2 жыл бұрын

Legally imported or even sold. Third party certification is required outside EU.

@dutchducks5451

2 жыл бұрын

Don't make the mistake that you have the CE and the C E .. that's a big difference...

7:35 The sudden appearance of the foot made me laugh, you are brilliant, I haven't laughed so much for a while THX :D P.S. Don't worry about comments from people who whine, these tests are needed to let folks know what to use.

Nice! It's always interesting to know how "no brand" products perform as well (since it's so hard to know beforehand). They are often good, but if you are unlucky you may get some crap. In this case, you also don't want to discover that you got a crap product by it starting a fire, haha.

Thank you I learnt a lot from your videos, great information.

Awesome content. I love this type od videos 👍 thank you for your channel

A good testament to the VID connectors is that my school uses them. And if I remember correctly they were sold under the Wurth brand.

Thanks for the heavy lifting in testing this all, nice result!

I would've liked to see an endurance test, where you see if and by how much holding-strength and Ohm change after ten, twenty and maybe fifty uses.

@mcac-youtube

2 жыл бұрын

An accelerated oxidation test would be great.

I only ever use this type of connector for low voltage situations. Nice socks. great video 2x👍

Excellent video Scott

Working with computer systems for years, I definitely see the benefit of WAGO and the better knockoffs over wire nuts for use in many parts of the system when dealing with bare wire connections.

I bought some WAGO connectors based on your recommendation. Love these videos!

I'll definitely be looking at the ViD connectors if I want to shave some price, and some of those slide connectors if I want to get a few bonus points for safety, thanks for the video!

@stehlajz

2 жыл бұрын

The ViD seems like a reasonable alternative. The brand ViolaDirekt is German (same as Wago) and the certifications seems legit and can be downloaded from their website. The others are all probably some chinese no-name, the sliding looks also decent but without any paperwork to prove some quality control it can be little bit sketchy.

Im from the us and have never seen these connectors until one of your previous videos. these look like a amazing idea compared to wire nuts as far as safety and ease of use. what ive always done with wirenuts though is made sure they actually threaded onto the wire first then wrapped the wire in electrical tape or put heat shrink tubing around it to prevent the fire from backing out of the wirenut

thanks for doing this, this is great!

Great coverage.

Excellent, many thanks

Very handy review, thanks.

Vielen Dank. As a scientist, I really appreciate your methodology and rigor. I think you tested the right things and provided the important data.

Excellent tests and comparison, dude! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Here in Brazil I never saw those connectors... But online there are some sources... Maybe I try them soon. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Perfect work is done. Here's like! Thanks!

Maybe I've already written this in the past, but I really like your hand written texts and schemes!

Thanks! Came just in time, I was looking at the Wago clones just today!

@greatscottlab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support :-)

Thanks a lot for the great video as always! May I ask the wire tool you used? Looks as one from knipex.

Great review/computation Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)

Would have been nice if you labeled the amazon links as to which brand each one was. Also, it sucks that the VID ones don't seem to be available on US Amazon.

@nidusa1

Жыл бұрын

I can not find this ViD brand on internet search. are they sold as a different brand name also?

If preferring a superior product over an inferior one is being biassed then I freely admit my guilt.

Das ist super! Danke!

These Wagos are EXCELLENT when wiring stranded LED lights/fixtures to solid gauge wire that's wired around the house. They also work very well with applications around the car and motorcycle which I have at least a decade of very good experience using. The only reason I still use wire nuts is cause I purchased a whole bunch at a discount years ago.

i repeated the resistance test of a wago 221 with AWG 16 fine stranded wire and got 1.1mR as a result. my wago knock-off look-alikes came out even better with just under 1mR (voltage drop measured with a UT181A). i removed more insulation so i could measure directly at the connector's entrance, while running 18A through it.

Interesting video thanks.. What wire stripping tool are you using please?

nice one! ive been using multiple knockoffs for a while. never found any with a similar price to wago

I always chuckle when people throw around "you're biased" as if that somehow discredits what you had to say. Literally everyone is biased. If someone claims they are unbiased then that just tells me they lack the self awareness of it. I watch this channel because I want to hear your opinion on things. If I wanted an unbiased comparison I'd read the spec sheets side by side.

@baronvonbeandip

2 жыл бұрын

It's an internet joke; "Your nitpicking and biased; I win, bye-bye." Use it whenever you require intellectual superiority. It's like using Caps Lock but with arguments.

Great comparison!

I made industrial machine wiring using original WAGO 221 - mixed cable types from 0,8mm2 to 4mm2. Zero problems, excellent reusability (for correction work). Expensive but worth any spent coin.

very interesting, thanks

Great video and comparison. OT: I envy your penmanship.

Thank you very much! As you are displaying oscilloscopes quite a lot, I was reminded that there seems to be very few tutorials on how to use an oscilloscope on KZread. (Maybe I just haven’t found them?) Perhaps an idea for a video series? Thanks again!

What do you feel about shrink wrap ? (Heat treated wire wrap) ?

I've come across loose wire nuts several times. Some that I put on, some that I assume an electrician put on due to various aspects of the application like how old it is and knowing that nobody had touched it in years. Seeing some tests of 20 amp rated Wago 221 connectors shrugging off 60 amps while barely warming up is impressive. They're soooooo much easier than wire nuts, especially when connecting 3 or more wires and doubly so when connecting stranded to solid, as is typical with light fixtures. The lever nuts just aren't going to self-loosen, not from any kind of repeated heating and cooling from environment or electric resistance. They also work the first time, no repeated attempts required trying to get stranded and solid or three or four solid wired held just the right way that a wire nut will evenly grab and hold them all. The only 'strike' against the Wago 221 I have is they don't make a 4 hole version! It's like the Holy Hand Grenade scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, slightly modified. Two! Three! Five! When you just need to connect 4 wires but have to try cramming the bulkier 5 hole Wago into the box...

I wonder if you would consider doing an additional evaluation on the "push in" wire connectors, represented in the USA largely by Ideal connectors. I actually picked up a pack thinking they were Wago knockoffs, as they look very similar from the outside. Thanks!

I'm sure they're all somewhat similar in thia but I'm curious how water resistant they are now. I have a few projects that require rewiring but a lot of them may deal with at least condensation. Great video as always!

Thank you for testing this. It is good to know, but I will still be only using Wago's in my home. It is just an emotional thing. :)

Good work scotty

Your previous and this video was great

4:41, the 2 grooves on the left connector are the mark showing how much insulation to remove...

I bought a whole bunch of these types of connectors from aliexpress a few years ago and they were much cheaper (about 1/4) when compared to wago connectors. I have a hole set of wago for mains wiring and such, but for other stuff I often use these convenient alternatives with the nice screw-holes as well.

Would be interesting to see the resistance test in comparison to wago and I don't know if I missed it, how would the clamps perform with fine wires not only solid. Thanks for the Video.

The previous video was not bad at all. I think it was loud minority of people with very strong opinions who thought that their opinions were fact. Wire nuts, if used correctly, can get the job done safely, but so can Wagos. Also, some other commenters pointed out that on places like Amazon counterfeit Wagos are sold as real, and it is possible that any negative opinions about build quality might've stemmed from them buying counterfeits instead of real Wagos. This is really the fault of the website they are hosted on (especially Amazon), as it is very hard to tell these days if a product is real or not, especially considering that many reviews are paid and thus not genuine, inflating the overall rating. Hopefully those people learn to have a more open mind in the future.

@baronvonbeandip

2 жыл бұрын

If the last 6 years have taught me anything, its that, when people are loud and obnoxious about their opinion, I ignore it almost unilaterally.

@someguy4915

2 жыл бұрын

@@baronvonbeandip Usually the ones that scream the loudest/rudest that they know best are the ones that have no clue what they are talking about. Also, people who care that much about whether someone uses a wire-nut instead of a Wago or vice-versa that they go around spamming comments on KZread videos should typically not be consulted for proper advice anyway, looking at the comment section here, some people really do stay up 24 hours a day spamming their opinion on KZread xD

@gn6034

2 жыл бұрын

Wirenuts damage the copper to make a connection so most countries with proper wiring regulations don't allow them. As we have to test the installation and fill out a legally binding document that is our only defense in court if there problems down the line, we don't fuck about with gimmicks like wirenuts we make sure our connection are robust.

Great tests, original wago connectors are quite expensive :D

I think the problem might be with North America, since they use half the voltage, they have double the amps.

I've used many kinds of connectors. The Chinese ones, real Wagos, the Ideal lever connectors, traditional white terminal strips, set screw wire nuts, Polaris taps, split bolt, etc. If I am trying to make a really good connection, I will go for a terminal strip or a small Polaris tap. If I am just trying to connect things together, I usually go for the Chinese 3 input, 3 outputs per input connector. Have one running at 25 amps that has been there for years, recently took apart that box and it's perfectly fine.

I was really hoping for a comparison between all these and wago’s.

what would you recommend for a wireless relay/ switch combo? DIY or buy

great job. i would have given 4 points in the resistance test because it is so important.

Right away, I'd like to say that you have some nice looking PME on your test bench! We also have one other thing in common - great handwriting! Anyway, I commend you on creating such a useful video. The test criteria you employed is very thorough, but the Resistance Test is definitely the most critical test in your list. Way back in engineering school, I was taught that Power is simply a form of Heat and, as you correctly pointed out, Power (P) is a product of both Current (I) and Resistance (R). Put a much simpler way, Heat increases when electrical conductors (wires) have poor contact with one another. Personally, I've never heard of a house fire that started at a simple connection point, but it IS possible. It is far more likely that a wire may come loose and short to ground - which obviously causes a lot of heat - but that's where your Pull Test comes in, which I see as the second most important test in your list. Regardless, thank you for performing this comprehensive product test and, please, keep up the great work!

Thanks for the video =)

The CE "certificate" is merely a self-declaration by the manufacturer of conformity with European regulations, which is mandatory for sales to european customers. It is therefore in no way an expression of quality or the like.

@baronvonbeandip

2 жыл бұрын

They need to make sure that certificate is certified before it certifies a product.

@apigge8723

2 жыл бұрын

@Reimar: Thank you!

ViD are pretty good, they were pretty good priced, so I tried them, and I'm very happy with them.

great channel, good video!

So, these are ok (code approved) to use in USA vs the standard wirenuts? I have some 50 standard 120v 15a receptacles to replace in my fathers house (built 1973) and 'many' have wire nuts in the old metal box to extend the existing wires. Or, should I just leave well enough alone and wire-in replacement receptacles? (ain't broke don't fix-it kinda deal)

When it came to the UL listing, did you actually look up the number and verify it applies to electrical safety for this specific product's use case? Case and point: most surge protectors you might find today with a MOV and multiple outlets will have a UL listing, but the number only applies to "relocatable taps", not actual "surge suppression", meaning only the outlets expansion, not the MOV, is certified. This means the MOV could be below below UL certification and possibly fail tests where the MOV can catch fire under a large surge, but the outlets themselves pass. It's a real problem.

Thanks for the Video. I guess I would have needed it six weeks ago, maybe I wouldn't have bought the big ones I did, which do not fit the housing

what pens are you using? love them.

Scott there's one thing you are missing in the Certificates. For something to be VDE or UL Listed as the name implied there is a number who certifies such listing that you can consult. Having the logo doesn't mean it's not simply a silkscreen applied without any document that certifies such thing (very common with China manufacturers). Other thing is the similarities between the CE logo and the CE (China Export) logo. So just having CE doesn't mean that it's the CE logo we know for products authorised to be sold in the EU but a China Export logo. Just a search online can show you what I'm saying, KZread doesn't allow links now... I'm a European EE currently living in Shenzhen/Hong Kong so I've come around this kind of stuff all days. That and counterfeits from brands as Knipex, Wiha, Wera and Wago for example.

We also use connectors like the 3M "IDC" connectors in the USA, although rarely. I think you might like those because they require no stripping, but you still have to use a tool. I feel like the common connectors used in Europe are more foolproof and less labor intensive, while the US connectors require skill to use and thus leave more room for error. We always twist the wires first and if you are connecting stranded and solid wire then you have to do it a certain way. I really only ever use 3M wire nuts (which are different than what you tested) unless some wire nuts are supplied with a fixture.

Good Video!

As long as they work up to 16 amps these will be perfect for a small car audio upgrade

I think that at 4:43 the connector on the left (smaller one) has the insulation information provided by that little indentation on the bottom.

Well Done 👍

Würth also provides a labeled version of the ViD Connectors, which I am testing now for some month.

What's the name and brand of that crimping tool. I currently use an automatic one from Stanley but I'm curious about the one you use for testing purposes.

You are great scot 👍🙂God bless you

4:43 fairly certain that the indentation at the bottom of the 1-to-1 is the indicator for the wire stripping length?

Are any of these knock offs or Wago brand useable with aluminum?

The VID connectors are the same ones Würth sells in their stores :)

Thanks!

@greatscottlab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support :-)

This new intro brings me nostalgia.

I havent made the jump to wagos yet. Can someone with experiencetell me how they do a house? With wire nuts i can fill my pockets. Whether its 2,3,4, or 5 wires together, the one nut covers it. With Wagos is it a pain to have to keep count of how many of each you need? Or having to have a few dedicated pouch pockets?

I use the lever kind all the time but I can say that there is not some "best" option between them for all purposes. It depends. I've seen lever nut splices where they magically somehow wiggle and pop off, lending to the idea that their use in general could become a little "too easy" for people over time. If I forcefully tried to remove a wire from the nut without opening the lever, I can do it with some twisting and turning. It's just not magically as solid as taking something like 12 or 14 and literally braiding it together. Wagos could probably stand the test of time but AFAIK empirically they cannot compare to wirenuts which have the actual evidence of doing so in many situations. People who are doing basic residential or light commercial wiring don't need to be too concerned about it.. they just need to make sure their joints are good with whatever product they use. Some facilities have local code which requires them to braid and solder permanent terminations in the boxes, something which the thought behind is not possible to do with a lever nut. Some of the thought behind that could be something like hospitals where engineers have kept it in mind that they want feeds to stay together temporarily maybe even in some drastic situation where an earthquake or other climate disaster has damaged some of the infrastructure. Having said that has anyone ever used wagos in a hospital for anything other than small fixture wiring? Would they let you make all the jbox terminations with them? This is just a random and joking example but I bet someone who is in an extremely unlucky situation where they need to hold onto some long ground wire to keep from falling is going to prefer it was fastened at the other end with a braided wirenut as opposed to a wago. I understand a wago may be tested and rated with all the acclaim but again, it's not hard to go see wirenuts older than you in old plants which are still fine. You can't do that yet with a wago unless you're pretty young. Of all the back and forth about wirenut vs wago I just don't get it when it comes to simply and basic wiring. Who cares. Just don't use scotch tape. People are talking about their preferred product for their electronic light switches lol.

Ideal brand lever nuts also have this sort of locking mechanism. Wago needs to up their game.

Interesting comparison :)

Bring an American, I am used to using wire caps. I bought some of those connectors and online, (wago knock-offs) and thought they all sucked. I may have to get brand name wago’s to give them a try. Wire caps work very well, but the ability to switch out wires without re-stripping in very select situations would be very nice

Wirenuts were widely used in the Netherlands, until wago made decent push in wire connectors. But the Dutch wirenuts made by Conex are diffrent. They have decend instruction load and certification (kema dutch version of vde)and there own tools to install them.