What will we learn about the Maple Leafs from Friday's press conference? Ray and Dregs discuss on the podcast.
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@86daytonazАй бұрын
How the fans and media accept everything this organization does is HILARIOUS! They LOVE YOU GUYZ! Keep it up!
@jferg999Ай бұрын
Great analysis Dregs & Ray. Definition of insanity, i have heard, is doing the same thing over and over and expecting dfferent results. The Leafs have failed miserably at the management level for NOT seeing the obvious that the "core 4" and the team in general are built for regular season success BUT put them in a physical 7 game series and they will lose 9/10 of the time. Credit to them for battling back vs Bs but tgat was Domi, Bertuzzi, Edmundson, and finally Willie when he returned. Domi was their best player vs Bs. Edmundson was one of their best "D". What shocks me is this: i have been a HUGE Shanahan fan since his days in Detroit. When Leafs hired him as Pres of Hockey Ops I thought FINALLY the Leafs playoff futility will end. I am shocked that Shanahan has been so blind or unwilling to acknowledge the obvious re: the Leafs "core 4" and their team make-up. That is a real shocker. Shanny, of all people, should know what type of grit is needed and to balance the superstars with grit!!!!! He has failed in his role i feel.
@dachonabeАй бұрын
Marner will soon realize that no other team is willing to pay him 10 Mil. No wonder he wants to sign with the Leafs.
@ScreaminT81
Ай бұрын
Tre has to tell him NO
@oldhab7890
Ай бұрын
I think Marner will get 10+ from a team who wants to reach the playoffs. What I don't think is any team willing to pay anything for him unless it is an albatross contract.
@skyborne80
Ай бұрын
There are tons of teams who will pay him 10 mill+ I just hope it's not the Leafs.
@scarbourgeoisieАй бұрын
Tre needs to tell Marner’s dad that he’s not being re-signed. Give us a list of teams you’d be interested in going to for the last year of your contract and maybe you can negotiate an extension with them. Same deal with Tavares, however salary will have to be retained in that case. Neither one of those guys should be a Leaf going forward.
@OvertimewinnerАй бұрын
Is the Oilers Vancouver series being delayed further so the media can talk about the leafs for another week?
@Tiglath-PileserXIX
Ай бұрын
Yup, its a plot to convince Leafs management that they better smarten up or next year will be more of the same.
@jorde1516Ай бұрын
Until the team parts with marner and Tavares they will not have cap space to fill there needs.
@giii7599
Ай бұрын
Even if they do find the space Matthews is still a lazy Mexican in the Playoffs. Maple Leafs in last 7 winner-take-all games. Record 0-7 Goals 12 Goals Against 27 Power Play 14.3% (2-for-14) Marner & Matthews: 0 goals, 5 assists (6 GP)
@jlove8445
Ай бұрын
South of the Border! Taco Bell baby, make a run for the Border 🌮
@markmccrory3004Ай бұрын
Ya Dreger you do your part again to make sure that Maner gets what he wants
@Intelpol-fz6hsАй бұрын
Darren Ferris was the worst thing to happen to Marner. Marner's rep was hurt when DF(darrenferris/dickface) spouted that his client took a discount on entry deal(honestly) and was not going to do so with RFA deal. Leafs' brass should have told him to F off right there and then. Make him sit ala Willly. What fanbase can appreciate that. It messed up Bryan McCabe after he got the bag and got driven out of town after. Lets not let history repeat itself. Dubas is gone and DF ain't taking brass out to back of the woodshed again...plz. We need clutch performers in playoffs. Hyman and Verhaeghe are so clutch now and that is sad. Gilmour and Clark were clutch but they only ever won 2 rounds too. Playoffs are not easy.
@phamos73Ай бұрын
Howard Ballard f**ked the Leafs culture and has never been the same since. As a Hab fan, I've always embraced the rivalry and friendship with those fans. The "Field of Dreams" comment was so honest and hilarious.
@sgreen4449Ай бұрын
when shanahan was first hired and as long long time leafs fan going back to the harrold ballard days i was so excited i thought finally here is a guy who played in some of the dirties brutal hockey in his era who knows how or what it takes to win a hockey game and what it takes to win the playoffs and the cup. finally a guy who can bring fortitude to this team because of his experience throughout his career. all we get is a dud, while growing in high school and watching hockey night in canada my friends and i looked up to this dude and all the great players in his era who played with grit, heart and passion and you could see it was for the love of the game and you can see it in their eyes and it wasnt about money. unfortunately now its about money. what a shame what a waste. i dont know what outcome this friday' meeting or announcement will bring. I'm getting close to retirement and the last time leafs won the cup was when i was born and all i can say is I DONT GIVE A CRAP! No doubt it will be the same fecal crap over and over and over again.
@7thkidАй бұрын
The sad part about this season was the defense and goaltending was great in the playoffs. They couldn't score. We need players who can play playoff hockey.
@aaamm4010
Ай бұрын
You need players that hate to lose ,that's when the culture will change
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
That means Matthews, Marner and Tavares must leave.
@pomerlain8924
Ай бұрын
@@user-gk7ri1em4xThere's no moving Matthews with his extension kicking in. No team is taking that cap hit on. But Marner and Tavares should be the ones to go.
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
@@pomerlain8924 You get the word out, that Matthews is available and I can guarantee you, that he`s gone in 24 hours! He is a leader in this group and he is a bad leader. Him and Marner - that's a toxic combination! I'm telling you the Leafs won't get anywhere with this guy in the lineup.
@moonlightmelodramaАй бұрын
We will learn that Leaf management continues to sell only one product--better tomorrows.
@davidewan3Ай бұрын
I had a high ankle sprain it took months to heal. Are we sure Marner was 100%?
@86daytonazАй бұрын
Go play golf!…… should be the new slogan!
@86daytonazАй бұрын
TML LOVES YOU FANS!….. cause you always support them!….. STOP SUPPORTING THEM!!!!….Wake the HELL UP!!!
@user-nb9od6dg4vАй бұрын
Shanahan, Tavares, Keefe & coaching staff must go 1st. If Tavares stays, C goes to Mathews, but better if Tavares moves. Must break up the old boys head office party club!
@WW3_SoonАй бұрын
Mr. Pelley: “Read my lips, run it back one more season”.
@el222
Ай бұрын
😂
@VangeliRockАй бұрын
TML is not in the hockey sporting industry, they are in the corporate entertainment industry.
@ryancoyte702Ай бұрын
I see a lot of similarities with the sens in the 2005/06 season. Great team with a lot of superstars but could never get it done in the playoffs. I hope this is the season Pelley and Treliving take the reigns and start leaning out the roster. Most of the cup winning teams had a core 3 with complimentary players on manageable contracts. I think you can move Marner and get the depth you need to go to the conference finals and beyond. But who knows. I thought Andlauer was going to be different as well but it has been much of the same moves with little results or change. Hoping the leafs can do better I want the revenue shares and also want the battle of ontario to be re-ignited. Also anyone else notice Matthews contract ends when the Coyotes arena is supposed to be built 👀. Anyway cheers boys!
@swavekbu4959Ай бұрын
We always say Leafs have no defense, but their biggest problem in the playoffs is lack of scoring given 40 mil upfront. That's really odd.
@stuffnsuch631
Ай бұрын
I've never found it baffling. Matthew's is around. 8 goals per game, Nylander. 5, marner around. 3 as well Tavares. That's around 1.9 goals per game from the core 4. Who else is paid to score? The teams offense is terribly thin that's shown when against teams that care enough to defend.
@thefozzybearАй бұрын
Yep, Darren is right, Marner and Tavares will not waive their NMC. Then they test free agency.
@bogdank2790Ай бұрын
If you asked Shanahan 10 years ago whether he should keep his job if they only won one playoff round in the next 10 years…he would have laughed and said absolutely NOT..that would be loser material…yet here we are and it doesn’t sound like he’s getting fired…but he should be!
@almVancouverАй бұрын
Is Mitch Marner they guy called out by Nylander for crying on the bench? What I don't hear enough about is how Shanahan and Dubas failed every year with properly assessing the team's chances. They literally spent a couple seasons ahead with futures when the team simply wasn't good enough to succeed. I'll give Treliving kudos this past season with not spending recklessly. He saw the need for snot and addressed that.
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
They changed everything several times except the core four and nothing worked. This season they brought in a really good players, but core four failed to deliver in the post season again (except Nylander, but you can add Rielly there, because he makes 7 mil and he was horrible!). So it's not the rest of the team - it's the core four - that's the problem here! They simply can't get it done!
@ThePalisky
Ай бұрын
100% yes he mentioned junior Matthews wasn't in junior
@WhiskeyGrooveАй бұрын
They'll run it back. Provide all the excuses why and why they can't and do nothing, but if Mitch comes in and says I'll take a cut to help bring in some more good then he's given toronto a gift from a God.
@carpartheroАй бұрын
after deciphering the word salad, we will be reminded that MLSE cares more about making money than winning a stanley cup. nothing magical or mysterious here lol.
@aaamm4010
Ай бұрын
That's why nothing will happen Friday, they are afraid of change
@Spanishflea.
Ай бұрын
Naturally
@el222
Ай бұрын
💯
@el222
Ай бұрын
When it's a full house every night, nothing is gonna change.
@rogersalles200Ай бұрын
Leafs does not have balance, the 4 guys on offense are already figured out by the entire league on what to expect from them in the playoffs, Leafs need to have AM and Nylander as the core pieces and build a strong team around them, thats the only way to get to the next level and a goalie too, must have a solid goalie that does not get hurt often.
@grips2uАй бұрын
1-22 power play, Keefe is a great coach eh Ray? Stop making excuses for management. There’s enough blame to go around everywhere. You have to shake things up this has been going on too long now
@randypattie9524Ай бұрын
Speaking for the rest of the hockey fans outside of the GTA; Run it back with everyone boys! Like they say if it's broke, don't fix it! Am i right?
@user-gk7ri1em4xАй бұрын
It's interesting, that they suddenly started playing a play off hockey when Matthews got hurt. Two best games when they played without him. The Leafs play always better when Matthews is not in the lineup. And they usually win!
@86daytonazАй бұрын
Not only is this organization a joke!…. But so are the FANS!!!!
@el222Ай бұрын
Is Shanny still going to be arrogant and defiant with another defeat
@marcelstanford430Ай бұрын
The team is built in a way that only has success in the regular season. Time and space...they need it to score. You don't get time and space in the playoffs, so they can't score.
@TPMikeJАй бұрын
Matthews out games 5-6, some of 4, Nylander missed first three games and McMann not available, coupled with average Samsonov goaltending, reverse the goalies and see the difference in the series. I do believe Marner should be traded for a stud defenseman and a decent forward, and search for a solid backup to Woll, Coaching change is not a bad idea but blow it up, no.
@Lawrence-vi7qkАй бұрын
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
@almVancouverАй бұрын
Toronto fans paid millions to: Have Shanahan apprentice as president Have Dubas apprentice as GM Have Keefe apprentice as coach Give out long term league high salaries to players that hadn't earned it
@el222
Ай бұрын
Reason why I had no interest in watching any Leafs game or ice hockey as a matter of fact. Ecstatic the team got booted out. Team stands for everything that is wrong about the hockey game. Fans needs to stop buying what MLSE is selling. 😂
@almVancouver
Ай бұрын
@@el222 Agreed. They can't spell lunchbucket let alone identify players of the ilk.
@mikego3346
Ай бұрын
Cliff Fletcher still on payroll
@bluetocopАй бұрын
they were injured and sick . you can get the best team in round one as an opponent. But you need a balance between goalie defence and forwards and move your money around that. We know leafs ended up with all their money in . forwards So Marner out put him on waivers. Keep DOMI!
@bruce8321Ай бұрын
Lets be honest here and stop the crap. Given the circumstances the Leafs did well and showed improvement. Remember Boston did not have the league leading scorer miss games sick as hell. They did not have a Willy miss games. They did not have a top point getter like Marner injured just before the series. Toronto this year unlike others did play tough and Boston had to fight for every inch of ice. Sheldon did a hell of a job having been forced to really switch it up. This team was a vast improvement and 1 dam goal in O.T and nobody would be bitching now.
@slooky14Ай бұрын
What did Marner say I think in January? We're Great! So great you lost in the first round! Now he says they are looked on as gods! Wait until October when he gets booed everytime he has the puck!😆😆
@ScubaSteveCanadaАй бұрын
Is Sheldon Keefe hired to score goals? No. Is his responsibility to come up with game plans that work? Yes. Is he responsible for solving the poor power play? Yes. Is he responsible for solving the poor PK? Yes. Is he responsible for ensuring his players are ready? Yes. Is he responsible for doing all of this in the playoffs? Absolutely. Has he? Not even close. To think he should stick around (pun intended) is a mistake and he should've been gone years ago. A new coach will bring in better ideas, possibly ones that will make a huge difference in the play of the Leafs. And, they'll move forward instead of remain stagnant in the first & second rounds (a big step back this year to not get into the 2nd round this year).
@wesleyp3579Ай бұрын
Wish I could get paid $10.9 mil for no results. San Jose will complete their rebuild and get to the conference final before the Leafs do
@86daytonazАй бұрын
GO LEAFS GO!…….. go play golf!
@paultaylor1814Ай бұрын
The coach can only field the players he's given. I can see paying 2 players big money, but anymore than that and you're seriously hamstringing your team. I'm not letting Keefe off the hook because the power play is
@hockeyfan7100
Ай бұрын
The same thing can be said about the other teams that lost.
@mikego3346
Ай бұрын
Guy Bouchard runs the pp
@melissakelly5813Ай бұрын
All their mystirious illnesses during the playoffs "when things get tough" ????Over the years not one of the core four players has ever said "we need to be better,I need to be better" its always the same shit"its a battle out there,its a game of inches,we were right there bla bla bla" fkn pathetic
@stuffnsuch631Ай бұрын
How are two 50 point players not better than a single 100 point player. Injuries are only half as critical. Two are harder to defend than one. Eggs in one basket, verse how to defend 4 dangerous lines.
@paulmarimootoo2059Ай бұрын
I cannot listen to Dreger. You can swear he works for MLSE. Everything that derger says is utterly nonsense.
@bluetocopАй бұрын
if you build it they will come....................sit in expensive seats and drink watered down beer, and you will be rich
@user-uq6cq5lo9qАй бұрын
Sheldon keefe cannot motivate these guys. I think this team could win, but the coach and the power play are evident that THEY are not working.
@zascorpusaАй бұрын
Team was built flawed. Rookie GM Dubas gave these diva players way too much $$$ and NMC’s before they even won a round. That tells you everything. Fire Keefe now. He couldn’t outcoach a peewee hockey coach
@dachonabeАй бұрын
Core 4 are only good for the regular season. Marner is not effective in the playoffs and Tavares has past his prime. Let's see what Treliving does in the off season.
@mkultra5752Ай бұрын
Coach is an idiot should have rested matthews instead focused on getting 70..why he was a no show in playoffs injured sick blah blah..fire kiefe , shanahan, strip tavares of C
@dannyarroway4187Ай бұрын
If shanascam and keefe are not fired there will be only 1 reason... GREED! The owners won't fire them because they have existing contracts and they don't want to lose the way they did with babcock! Greed!
@wilfredwitzke2607Ай бұрын
leafs would had woll game7 woll would stole that game probably swayman was the difference in the series and we would watching the leafs playing florida all these mystery injuries are still not being talked about
@LoganFruzАй бұрын
1 more year unfortunately then changes will come when contracts are up
@86daytonazАй бұрын
Grow some BALLS!!!!!!!
@ugna2773Ай бұрын
That they re not leaders. Lmao😂
@larscederberg8564Ай бұрын
The Leafs played really well without Matthews and Nylander the reason was that the team bonded together as a unit without them also Keefe is a good coach, and they didn't play any better with Babcock behind the bench
@zascorpusa
Ай бұрын
Keefe is a dumb coach blender the lines and gets out coached. Remember Keefe loved playing Justin Holl remember that
@beer8829Ай бұрын
Leafs trying to win with soccer scores
@kvpunk881Ай бұрын
It's simple, keep the core four, let Domi and Bertuzzi walk, patch up holes with cheap options. And most hilariously, they'll re-sign Klingberg lol
@ugna2773Ай бұрын
You know what funny part is. Marner has no control. It takes a general manager with balls to say if you dont give us a list of teams you can sit the whole season and get paid for nothing. Enough of this micky mouse crap. Start to take control of the situation. This is a joke. They got all paid and did absoultely nothing. Toronto maple leaf organization is just supposed to take all this garbage and sit with it. Thats not ok. For me anyway.
@86daytonazАй бұрын
Absolutely NOTHING!
@Felix-hj3tvАй бұрын
Tavares, Brodie, Reilly, marner, samsonov are too slow for the game! Management ain’t doing shit 💩
@jonthedawnАй бұрын
Lol are you guys drunk?? Game 7 OT..literally a goal away from moving on....after FINALLY playing playoff hockey and bodying the Bruins.. your answer is to get rid of 1 of 4 amazing forwards?? Not get an actual goalie? Or some bottom 6 who can at least threaten to score?? Wtf am i missing here? If they got bouned in 4 and showed no physical playoff level effort id at least understand where youre coming from.... but as of now youre both on glue imo.
@21SalmingKing
Ай бұрын
Can't score in playoffs (again). Core 4 need to score. Couln't again. Bye bye Marner and/or Tavares - good riddance you chokers
@whoanelly-
Ай бұрын
Core is self entitled Brats who asked for all that money without truly deserving it, which has screwed the rest of the team. Mathews, Nylander and Marner are the issues. Mathews gets you to the playoffs, and then does nothing once there, EVERY year. Marner has issues between his ears, and his Dad is delusional and filling his head with crap (that he is the BEST on the team). Melander shouldn't have gotten more than 10. Of those 3, Id only keep Nylander, but realistically Marner needs to go. Next year is going to be another playoff disappointment. I guess you are happy with first round exits then, and IF you make the second, you only win 1 game. We got the clue, you haven't: THIS AINT WORKING
@aaamm4010Ай бұрын
Nothing new same bs as before leafs are the laughing stock of the NHL
@chuckp7939Ай бұрын
biggest mistake was to sign Tavares... we didn't need him.... we had kadri.... the $ would have been better spent on a great defensemen
@86daytonazАй бұрын
Make a statement and that you want no more of this CRAP!
@newfy709Ай бұрын
Marner he is a chicken
@marcelstanford430Ай бұрын
We'll learn somewhere between little and nothing. The 2nd round has started...it's time to move on. Let me know when they actually make a move.
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How the fans and media accept everything this organization does is HILARIOUS! They LOVE YOU GUYZ! Keep it up!
Great analysis Dregs & Ray. Definition of insanity, i have heard, is doing the same thing over and over and expecting dfferent results. The Leafs have failed miserably at the management level for NOT seeing the obvious that the "core 4" and the team in general are built for regular season success BUT put them in a physical 7 game series and they will lose 9/10 of the time. Credit to them for battling back vs Bs but tgat was Domi, Bertuzzi, Edmundson, and finally Willie when he returned. Domi was their best player vs Bs. Edmundson was one of their best "D". What shocks me is this: i have been a HUGE Shanahan fan since his days in Detroit. When Leafs hired him as Pres of Hockey Ops I thought FINALLY the Leafs playoff futility will end. I am shocked that Shanahan has been so blind or unwilling to acknowledge the obvious re: the Leafs "core 4" and their team make-up. That is a real shocker. Shanny, of all people, should know what type of grit is needed and to balance the superstars with grit!!!!! He has failed in his role i feel.
Marner will soon realize that no other team is willing to pay him 10 Mil. No wonder he wants to sign with the Leafs.
@ScreaminT81
Ай бұрын
Tre has to tell him NO
@oldhab7890
Ай бұрын
I think Marner will get 10+ from a team who wants to reach the playoffs. What I don't think is any team willing to pay anything for him unless it is an albatross contract.
@skyborne80
Ай бұрын
There are tons of teams who will pay him 10 mill+ I just hope it's not the Leafs.
Tre needs to tell Marner’s dad that he’s not being re-signed. Give us a list of teams you’d be interested in going to for the last year of your contract and maybe you can negotiate an extension with them. Same deal with Tavares, however salary will have to be retained in that case. Neither one of those guys should be a Leaf going forward.
Is the Oilers Vancouver series being delayed further so the media can talk about the leafs for another week?
@Tiglath-PileserXIX
Ай бұрын
Yup, its a plot to convince Leafs management that they better smarten up or next year will be more of the same.
Until the team parts with marner and Tavares they will not have cap space to fill there needs.
@giii7599
Ай бұрын
Even if they do find the space Matthews is still a lazy Mexican in the Playoffs. Maple Leafs in last 7 winner-take-all games. Record 0-7 Goals 12 Goals Against 27 Power Play 14.3% (2-for-14) Marner & Matthews: 0 goals, 5 assists (6 GP)
@jlove8445
Ай бұрын
South of the Border! Taco Bell baby, make a run for the Border 🌮
Ya Dreger you do your part again to make sure that Maner gets what he wants
Darren Ferris was the worst thing to happen to Marner. Marner's rep was hurt when DF(darrenferris/dickface) spouted that his client took a discount on entry deal(honestly) and was not going to do so with RFA deal. Leafs' brass should have told him to F off right there and then. Make him sit ala Willly. What fanbase can appreciate that. It messed up Bryan McCabe after he got the bag and got driven out of town after. Lets not let history repeat itself. Dubas is gone and DF ain't taking brass out to back of the woodshed again...plz. We need clutch performers in playoffs. Hyman and Verhaeghe are so clutch now and that is sad. Gilmour and Clark were clutch but they only ever won 2 rounds too. Playoffs are not easy.
Howard Ballard f**ked the Leafs culture and has never been the same since. As a Hab fan, I've always embraced the rivalry and friendship with those fans. The "Field of Dreams" comment was so honest and hilarious.
when shanahan was first hired and as long long time leafs fan going back to the harrold ballard days i was so excited i thought finally here is a guy who played in some of the dirties brutal hockey in his era who knows how or what it takes to win a hockey game and what it takes to win the playoffs and the cup. finally a guy who can bring fortitude to this team because of his experience throughout his career. all we get is a dud, while growing in high school and watching hockey night in canada my friends and i looked up to this dude and all the great players in his era who played with grit, heart and passion and you could see it was for the love of the game and you can see it in their eyes and it wasnt about money. unfortunately now its about money. what a shame what a waste. i dont know what outcome this friday' meeting or announcement will bring. I'm getting close to retirement and the last time leafs won the cup was when i was born and all i can say is I DONT GIVE A CRAP! No doubt it will be the same fecal crap over and over and over again.
The sad part about this season was the defense and goaltending was great in the playoffs. They couldn't score. We need players who can play playoff hockey.
@aaamm4010
Ай бұрын
You need players that hate to lose ,that's when the culture will change
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
That means Matthews, Marner and Tavares must leave.
@pomerlain8924
Ай бұрын
@@user-gk7ri1em4xThere's no moving Matthews with his extension kicking in. No team is taking that cap hit on. But Marner and Tavares should be the ones to go.
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
@@pomerlain8924 You get the word out, that Matthews is available and I can guarantee you, that he`s gone in 24 hours! He is a leader in this group and he is a bad leader. Him and Marner - that's a toxic combination! I'm telling you the Leafs won't get anywhere with this guy in the lineup.
We will learn that Leaf management continues to sell only one product--better tomorrows.
I had a high ankle sprain it took months to heal. Are we sure Marner was 100%?
Go play golf!…… should be the new slogan!
TML LOVES YOU FANS!….. cause you always support them!….. STOP SUPPORTING THEM!!!!….Wake the HELL UP!!!
Shanahan, Tavares, Keefe & coaching staff must go 1st. If Tavares stays, C goes to Mathews, but better if Tavares moves. Must break up the old boys head office party club!
Mr. Pelley: “Read my lips, run it back one more season”.
@el222
Ай бұрын
😂
TML is not in the hockey sporting industry, they are in the corporate entertainment industry.
I see a lot of similarities with the sens in the 2005/06 season. Great team with a lot of superstars but could never get it done in the playoffs. I hope this is the season Pelley and Treliving take the reigns and start leaning out the roster. Most of the cup winning teams had a core 3 with complimentary players on manageable contracts. I think you can move Marner and get the depth you need to go to the conference finals and beyond. But who knows. I thought Andlauer was going to be different as well but it has been much of the same moves with little results or change. Hoping the leafs can do better I want the revenue shares and also want the battle of ontario to be re-ignited. Also anyone else notice Matthews contract ends when the Coyotes arena is supposed to be built 👀. Anyway cheers boys!
We always say Leafs have no defense, but their biggest problem in the playoffs is lack of scoring given 40 mil upfront. That's really odd.
@stuffnsuch631
Ай бұрын
I've never found it baffling. Matthew's is around. 8 goals per game, Nylander. 5, marner around. 3 as well Tavares. That's around 1.9 goals per game from the core 4. Who else is paid to score? The teams offense is terribly thin that's shown when against teams that care enough to defend.
Yep, Darren is right, Marner and Tavares will not waive their NMC. Then they test free agency.
If you asked Shanahan 10 years ago whether he should keep his job if they only won one playoff round in the next 10 years…he would have laughed and said absolutely NOT..that would be loser material…yet here we are and it doesn’t sound like he’s getting fired…but he should be!
Is Mitch Marner they guy called out by Nylander for crying on the bench? What I don't hear enough about is how Shanahan and Dubas failed every year with properly assessing the team's chances. They literally spent a couple seasons ahead with futures when the team simply wasn't good enough to succeed. I'll give Treliving kudos this past season with not spending recklessly. He saw the need for snot and addressed that.
@user-gk7ri1em4x
Ай бұрын
They changed everything several times except the core four and nothing worked. This season they brought in a really good players, but core four failed to deliver in the post season again (except Nylander, but you can add Rielly there, because he makes 7 mil and he was horrible!). So it's not the rest of the team - it's the core four - that's the problem here! They simply can't get it done!
@ThePalisky
Ай бұрын
100% yes he mentioned junior Matthews wasn't in junior
They'll run it back. Provide all the excuses why and why they can't and do nothing, but if Mitch comes in and says I'll take a cut to help bring in some more good then he's given toronto a gift from a God.
after deciphering the word salad, we will be reminded that MLSE cares more about making money than winning a stanley cup. nothing magical or mysterious here lol.
@aaamm4010
Ай бұрын
That's why nothing will happen Friday, they are afraid of change
@Spanishflea.
Ай бұрын
Naturally
@el222
Ай бұрын
💯
@el222
Ай бұрын
When it's a full house every night, nothing is gonna change.
Leafs does not have balance, the 4 guys on offense are already figured out by the entire league on what to expect from them in the playoffs, Leafs need to have AM and Nylander as the core pieces and build a strong team around them, thats the only way to get to the next level and a goalie too, must have a solid goalie that does not get hurt often.
1-22 power play, Keefe is a great coach eh Ray? Stop making excuses for management. There’s enough blame to go around everywhere. You have to shake things up this has been going on too long now
Speaking for the rest of the hockey fans outside of the GTA; Run it back with everyone boys! Like they say if it's broke, don't fix it! Am i right?
It's interesting, that they suddenly started playing a play off hockey when Matthews got hurt. Two best games when they played without him. The Leafs play always better when Matthews is not in the lineup. And they usually win!
Not only is this organization a joke!…. But so are the FANS!!!!
Is Shanny still going to be arrogant and defiant with another defeat
The team is built in a way that only has success in the regular season. Time and space...they need it to score. You don't get time and space in the playoffs, so they can't score.
Matthews out games 5-6, some of 4, Nylander missed first three games and McMann not available, coupled with average Samsonov goaltending, reverse the goalies and see the difference in the series. I do believe Marner should be traded for a stud defenseman and a decent forward, and search for a solid backup to Woll, Coaching change is not a bad idea but blow it up, no.
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
Toronto fans paid millions to: Have Shanahan apprentice as president Have Dubas apprentice as GM Have Keefe apprentice as coach Give out long term league high salaries to players that hadn't earned it
@el222
Ай бұрын
Reason why I had no interest in watching any Leafs game or ice hockey as a matter of fact. Ecstatic the team got booted out. Team stands for everything that is wrong about the hockey game. Fans needs to stop buying what MLSE is selling. 😂
@almVancouver
Ай бұрын
@@el222 Agreed. They can't spell lunchbucket let alone identify players of the ilk.
@mikego3346
Ай бұрын
Cliff Fletcher still on payroll
they were injured and sick . you can get the best team in round one as an opponent. But you need a balance between goalie defence and forwards and move your money around that. We know leafs ended up with all their money in . forwards So Marner out put him on waivers. Keep DOMI!
Lets be honest here and stop the crap. Given the circumstances the Leafs did well and showed improvement. Remember Boston did not have the league leading scorer miss games sick as hell. They did not have a Willy miss games. They did not have a top point getter like Marner injured just before the series. Toronto this year unlike others did play tough and Boston had to fight for every inch of ice. Sheldon did a hell of a job having been forced to really switch it up. This team was a vast improvement and 1 dam goal in O.T and nobody would be bitching now.
What did Marner say I think in January? We're Great! So great you lost in the first round! Now he says they are looked on as gods! Wait until October when he gets booed everytime he has the puck!😆😆
Is Sheldon Keefe hired to score goals? No. Is his responsibility to come up with game plans that work? Yes. Is he responsible for solving the poor power play? Yes. Is he responsible for solving the poor PK? Yes. Is he responsible for ensuring his players are ready? Yes. Is he responsible for doing all of this in the playoffs? Absolutely. Has he? Not even close. To think he should stick around (pun intended) is a mistake and he should've been gone years ago. A new coach will bring in better ideas, possibly ones that will make a huge difference in the play of the Leafs. And, they'll move forward instead of remain stagnant in the first & second rounds (a big step back this year to not get into the 2nd round this year).
Wish I could get paid $10.9 mil for no results. San Jose will complete their rebuild and get to the conference final before the Leafs do
GO LEAFS GO!…….. go play golf!
The coach can only field the players he's given. I can see paying 2 players big money, but anymore than that and you're seriously hamstringing your team. I'm not letting Keefe off the hook because the power play is
@hockeyfan7100
Ай бұрын
The same thing can be said about the other teams that lost.
@mikego3346
Ай бұрын
Guy Bouchard runs the pp
All their mystirious illnesses during the playoffs "when things get tough" ????Over the years not one of the core four players has ever said "we need to be better,I need to be better" its always the same shit"its a battle out there,its a game of inches,we were right there bla bla bla" fkn pathetic
How are two 50 point players not better than a single 100 point player. Injuries are only half as critical. Two are harder to defend than one. Eggs in one basket, verse how to defend 4 dangerous lines.
I cannot listen to Dreger. You can swear he works for MLSE. Everything that derger says is utterly nonsense.
if you build it they will come....................sit in expensive seats and drink watered down beer, and you will be rich
Sheldon keefe cannot motivate these guys. I think this team could win, but the coach and the power play are evident that THEY are not working.
Team was built flawed. Rookie GM Dubas gave these diva players way too much $$$ and NMC’s before they even won a round. That tells you everything. Fire Keefe now. He couldn’t outcoach a peewee hockey coach
Core 4 are only good for the regular season. Marner is not effective in the playoffs and Tavares has past his prime. Let's see what Treliving does in the off season.
Coach is an idiot should have rested matthews instead focused on getting 70..why he was a no show in playoffs injured sick blah blah..fire kiefe , shanahan, strip tavares of C
If shanascam and keefe are not fired there will be only 1 reason... GREED! The owners won't fire them because they have existing contracts and they don't want to lose the way they did with babcock! Greed!
leafs would had woll game7 woll would stole that game probably swayman was the difference in the series and we would watching the leafs playing florida all these mystery injuries are still not being talked about
1 more year unfortunately then changes will come when contracts are up
Grow some BALLS!!!!!!!
That they re not leaders. Lmao😂
The Leafs played really well without Matthews and Nylander the reason was that the team bonded together as a unit without them also Keefe is a good coach, and they didn't play any better with Babcock behind the bench
@zascorpusa
Ай бұрын
Keefe is a dumb coach blender the lines and gets out coached. Remember Keefe loved playing Justin Holl remember that
Leafs trying to win with soccer scores
It's simple, keep the core four, let Domi and Bertuzzi walk, patch up holes with cheap options. And most hilariously, they'll re-sign Klingberg lol
You know what funny part is. Marner has no control. It takes a general manager with balls to say if you dont give us a list of teams you can sit the whole season and get paid for nothing. Enough of this micky mouse crap. Start to take control of the situation. This is a joke. They got all paid and did absoultely nothing. Toronto maple leaf organization is just supposed to take all this garbage and sit with it. Thats not ok. For me anyway.
Absolutely NOTHING!
Tavares, Brodie, Reilly, marner, samsonov are too slow for the game! Management ain’t doing shit 💩
Lol are you guys drunk?? Game 7 OT..literally a goal away from moving on....after FINALLY playing playoff hockey and bodying the Bruins.. your answer is to get rid of 1 of 4 amazing forwards?? Not get an actual goalie? Or some bottom 6 who can at least threaten to score?? Wtf am i missing here? If they got bouned in 4 and showed no physical playoff level effort id at least understand where youre coming from.... but as of now youre both on glue imo.
@21SalmingKing
Ай бұрын
Can't score in playoffs (again). Core 4 need to score. Couln't again. Bye bye Marner and/or Tavares - good riddance you chokers
@whoanelly-
Ай бұрын
Core is self entitled Brats who asked for all that money without truly deserving it, which has screwed the rest of the team. Mathews, Nylander and Marner are the issues. Mathews gets you to the playoffs, and then does nothing once there, EVERY year. Marner has issues between his ears, and his Dad is delusional and filling his head with crap (that he is the BEST on the team). Melander shouldn't have gotten more than 10. Of those 3, Id only keep Nylander, but realistically Marner needs to go. Next year is going to be another playoff disappointment. I guess you are happy with first round exits then, and IF you make the second, you only win 1 game. We got the clue, you haven't: THIS AINT WORKING
Nothing new same bs as before leafs are the laughing stock of the NHL
biggest mistake was to sign Tavares... we didn't need him.... we had kadri.... the $ would have been better spent on a great defensemen
Make a statement and that you want no more of this CRAP!
Marner he is a chicken
We'll learn somewhere between little and nothing. The 2nd round has started...it's time to move on. Let me know when they actually make a move.
Keep Keefe Stays .