“A children’s story that only children can enjoy is not a good children’s story.” -C.S. Lewis, paraphrased

@satrajitsamy7443

4 ай бұрын

very true

@briancurtis6022

4 ай бұрын

I think there's an important difference between "all-ages show" and "kids' show," which G4 and G5 illustrate perfectly. Think of the classic Bugs Bunny cartoons--obviously kid-friendly, but with plenty of side remarks, references, and undertones that only adults would catch. They were for an all-ages audience, and so was G4.

@nightflame389

4 ай бұрын

​@@briancurtis6022 and yet the difference in quality between Paw Patrol and Make Your Mark is as clear as night and day Unless you want to argue that Paw Patrol is an all-ages show like Avatar: The Last Airbender or Gravity Falls

@galaxystarstudios7160

4 ай бұрын

In other words, kids AREN’T dumb

@bismarsyauqie7885

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but that doesn't mean that every show need to be this deep & complex show that always over complicated story & dump lore exposition that turn your brain to the max. Sometimes, you just need a show where everyone just you know "have fun" but still enjoyed by everyone else in all ages, perfect example will be Bluey

Also can I say Who's bright idea was it to replace the writing staff of the movie with a completely new set of writers for the show and tell your tale series

@SunIsLost

4 ай бұрын

Probably Darren Throop.

@BlythePennyBicycle21

4 ай бұрын

Technically speaking, one person from the movie did return to the show, writer Gillian M. Berrow. Given how she had been involved with everything My Little Pony related since Friendship Is Magic season 5, this should've worked. However, there is one notable absence from movie to series, Meghan McCarthy. She was the showrunner for Friendship Is Magic and was an executive producer on A New Generation. However, she did not work on Make Your Mark due to being story editor on Centaurworld.

@troin3925

4 ай бұрын

@@BlythePennyBicycle21 And then Centaurworld got cancelled before it could actually end. I really hate my life. Update: I should probably watch the show since, despite the backlash against Netflix not renewing it for another season, it seemed to have an ending (this isn't the first time I've seen people do this).

@AxsorXI

4 ай бұрын

Maybe someone at Hasbro. Hasbro is just a bad, greedy, incompetent and awful company which doesn't care so much about their IPs. They don't even deserve support from fans. They're the worst. I don't even care about MLP G5. For me Hasbro can keep to ruin its IP, but I'm sorry for Lauren Faust. She knew how to draw a dragon. Instead those animators of this animated series can't even draw dragons with a good design. Talk about incompetence. Sometimes you just have to move on to discover other things of quality to appreciate.

@troin3925

4 ай бұрын

@@AxsorXI I’m not defending G5 (if you’ve seen my comments, you’ll know how passionately angry I am at it), but I don’t like that mentality of “they don’t deserve support from the fans,” and “they need to move on to better things” (that’s not how it works with the latter quote. There’s still a chance that we’ll get a better show in the future. Also, are you saying that we should abandon G4 related stuff too? Again, that’s not how it works with the context that you’re implying). Plus, in another comment (which is the exact same as this comment just with a few edits), you threw bronies under the bus, calling them a bad fanbase and that we need to “accept it” which gives some unfortunate implications as to the type of person you might be.

The fact G5 couldn't keep track of its own specific continuity, let alone G4's is bad enough. But the fact they couldn't even keep track of which generation it was supposed to be a sequel to made it even worse. It kept hammering in that G4 was its past while NOT making sense, yet kept somewhat naturally introducing aspects from G1 (Megan's Rainbow of Light Locket being the most obvious) without breaking the continuity besides the fact that since G5 is G4's future and G4 was not G1's future, so it still brought things to a halt as we tried to understand HOW G1 now existed in G4, when we know it didn't (yes, aspects of G1, such as Tirek and Grogar came back, but those were G4 versions of them, not G1's brought into G4's world), so we get side tracked from whatever the plot is SUPPOSED to be, because the new plotholes open more plotholes with the plotholes in plotholes in MORE plotholes, causing everything to crash and leave us questioning what the flying FEATHERS is going on anymore! All G5 had to do was establish itself as a separate timeline (Starlight LITERALLY gave them at least 5 of them to choose from with all the alternate timelines She created back in the season 5 finale) and most of the inconsistencies would've been easily waved away due to the different timelines being SO different, we could've believed G5 somehow came from one of them. BUT, because they CONSTANTLY hammer in that G5 is the direct future of THE ORIGINAL G4 TIMELINE, it all falls apart like a house of glass in a windy valley full of rocks.

@StarMic-o7

18 күн бұрын

"A house of glass in a windy valley full of rocks." _💀💀💀_

17:32: Should we consider Star Strike a better villain than Opaline?

@hellistheunderworld

4 ай бұрын

yes

@satrajitsamy7443

4 ай бұрын

yes

@jetragnarok2075

4 ай бұрын

No doubt, yes.

@BobHershey

4 ай бұрын

Hell, *Sprout* was a better villain that -Ovaltine- Opaline!

@-necromythzen-b6844

4 ай бұрын

He lost it lol

one reason that people don't talk about enough is that one of the main catalysts for MYM's problems was the complete change of the team that made the film(Bould media) to the team that made the show(atomic cartoons) I don't know why that happened, but I'm sure that this was the reason for the inferior animation we had in the first chapters, in addition to the script changes, for example, the plot of the first chapter would be different from what we had according to a leaked storyboard

@ImmaLittlePip

4 ай бұрын

Would love to know more detail about that Might make a great video

@CordialH

4 ай бұрын

@@ImmaLittlePip there's a lot of interesting details that went into that problem. Hard to track down the original statements but animators invited to panels at cons have talked about it some. Amongst other issues the animation team was new, they had movie quality models to use, and they had TV quality software, so it was just physically difficult to animate anything, it was slow (one described every time they clicked a change it could take up to 3 minutes before they could interact again) and they couldn't make any changes to the models. You know how a lot of artists have a thing at the bottom of your commission agreement that says you do/do not have permissions to make alterations to their work? They had that. So they couldn't even clean up the models to make them more workable. Virtually everything people disliked about the show was due to a decision from somebody wearing a tie and not the artists and creative team.

If the three tribes were all divided and hated each other, WHERE ARE THE WINDIGOS?

@lpnobusters

Ай бұрын

I did a rewrite of the movie and make your mark where windigos came so the three tribes decided to split so they wouldn’t have disharmony cause they though the other tribes were myths if that makes sense but at the end wendigos come when they all argue at the end and the crystal break and Sunny realizes that the crystals didn’t need to unite there just crystals it is really the tribes then the wendigos get banished. If this doesn’t make sense feel free to ask questions

@ikmwrime29sorryaira60

4 күн бұрын

@@lpnobusters That makes more sense than the show, maybe you should've been one of the writers.

I remember after the way the defeated that lion villain me and my friend couldn't comprehend what we just watched Like we've never seen a villain get defeated with snowballs I still don't even know what that was if its bad or creative...

@AstralArbourSys

4 ай бұрын

Right? You're seriously telling me that nopony ever fell into the snow before?

@BobHershey

4 ай бұрын

@@AstralArbourSys...and the fact they were walking in the snow meant it was touching their hooves. Shouldn't that alone have had the same effect as throwing a snowball at them?

@AstralArbourSys

4 ай бұрын

@@BobHershey I thought I only saw them walking on the ice but whatever it's dumb either way

@jessicatouvell6859

4 ай бұрын

Also was anyone else disappointed that Starlight Ridge wasn't just the Crystal Empire? After the whole Spike mess, I was seriously hoping that we would see (or at least hear about) some G4 characters that didn't end up being a disappointment? Like "Hey! This is the Crystal Empire!" then we get a little bit of lore about Flurry Heart and Princess Cadence.

6:34 “We just need a little hope. We just need a little unity. We just need to find the ma-a-gic that’s inside of everypony.

@TheTakenGamer

4 ай бұрын

Only song I remember from G5 right here

The best reason why MYM failed was the inconsistencies between the two generations. They tried to hype it up as much as G4, saying it's a sequel. But after each and every episode, it ruins the lore for G4. It took something that was great and threw it into a toaster and burned it. It also left bronies disappointed, especially the newer ones, like myself. When I finished watching G4, I was really excited to watch G5, hoping it would expand on the lore of G4. It also made me feel happy that I could at least watch episodes when they are coming out with everyone else. But seeing the show come to what it has become is really heart wrenching.

@ElizabethMiller-pe7qc

4 ай бұрын

I totally agree. At first, MYM was actually a fine show to me. It felt a bit empty, but I ignored that feeling and tried to enjoy the characters. The only reason that worked is because they are very happy characters. Then I watched some reviews of the show, and I am so glad I did because it helped me realize how terrible of a show it really was. To sum up what they said, it was a show with happy ponies that had pretty minor problems that were solved by “magic happened.” I mean (referencing part 1 of this), even if Sunny already accomplished her big life goal, they could have an arc of her discovering a new goal she wants to work at instead of being just there! There are just so many possibilities they could have taken but they didn’t! I did like that in the latest episode they told us what themes the ponies were supposed to be. Like I think Sunny being the Alicorn of Hope is a great idea. It just should have been established sooner.

@ImmaLittlePip

4 ай бұрын

Also the batch releases didn't help Just like what happened to JoJo part 6

@hellistheunderworld

4 ай бұрын

?@@ImmaLittlePip

@troin3925

3 ай бұрын

@@ImmaLittlePip It reminds me of Invincible's midseason break.

In regard to not getting answers on how G4 became G5, perhaps that can be chalked up to a mindbogglingly stupid ruling regarding the G4 characters. Apparently, Discovery Family still owns half the rights to them despite not being involved in G4's creation, so Hasbro couldn't use them unless they got Discovery Family to agree. But that begs the question of why they would make G5 a G4 sequel if they didn't have the rights to use any of the characters. If you don't have the rights, you can't make something a sequel. G5 as its own thing would at least free it from the shackles of being directly compared to what came before. As for Make Your Mark as a whole, I feel like it was finally ready to go somewhere after Chapter 4. And then Hasbro just gave up and cancelled it. Something I feel should be considered for Make Your Mark's failures is Tell Your Tale, even a low budget production like that would draw resources away from Make Your Mark if it was airing and ongoing at the same time.

@AxsorXI

4 ай бұрын

I'm gonna be honest with you. Currently MLP isn't an interesting and entertaining franchise and its G5 seems so poor and bland. There isn't nothing interesting. The first seasons of MLP:FIM were funny in a way. Lauren Faust's vision of MLP was good and interesting. But now that vision is gone for MLP. Hasbro has done it and changed it in worse. Hasbro really ruined MLP. They destroyed the original vision of Lauren Faust about this franchise and turned it in something made without creativity and passion to sell toys. They could make it a good franchise for families (kids and even adults), but they made it something for people without good taste. Bronies ruined it too because of their obsession for it and their trollism as MLP fans. Hasbro and bronies really didn't carry on the legacy of Lauren Faust. Hasbro is just a bad, greedy, incompetent and awful company which doesn't care so much about their IPs. They don't even deserve support from fans. They're the worst. And bronies are also a bad fandom. You have to accept it. Gosh! I don't even care about MLP G5. For me Hasbro can keep to ruin its IP, but I'm sorry for Lauren Faust. She knew how to draw a dragon. Instead those animators of this animated series can't even draw dragons with a good design. Talk about incompetence. Sometimes you just have to move on to discover other things of quality to appreciate. That's it.

@ImmaLittlePip

4 ай бұрын

​@@AxsorXIdude bronies are keeping the franchise alive to this day what are you talking about?

@AxsorXI

4 ай бұрын

@@ImmaLittlePip You missed the point of my comment.

@troin3925

3 ай бұрын

@@ImmaLittlePip I don't know if it was the same commenter, but they always go on and on about how we need to "move on" even though that's not how it works with movies and shows. Update: It was the same guy. I already talked to them so I'll just leave it at that.

@troin3925

3 ай бұрын

Once again, more proof that copyright needs to be abolished as soon as possible!

G5 hearing this, feels like someone's fanfiction, that somehow became a show. And i've read fanfics that at least did things that were interesting

I got a song for ya My bananas: One lyrics line: my bananas ma ma ma ma ma my bananas

@Lunar_sunshine

4 ай бұрын

This is pretty much the whole song

@Lunar_sunshine

4 ай бұрын

Tyt

4:15 the fact that you are singing shows how great the G4 songs are

Two words to describe Make Your Mark: Hot garbage I adored A New Generation, but everything afterwards fell downhill. Originally, I blindly hated G4, believing it was garbage, even when I was still a kid. But then, I gave it a shot, turning out to be one of my favorite things ever. I was nervous about G5, but pretty optimistic. And after A New Generation released, I was satisfied and confident in the future of the generation, only for it to be the worst piece of media I’ve ever seen. One of the saddest things about it is instead of bringing in new fans, it’s just driving old ones away. I could only imagine how devastated Lauren Faust is or would be seeing this soulless cash grab that tore down everything she built.

I do want to point out that in the last episode they finally told us what theme of friendship each pony stands for. It still should have been established earlier but I think it’s a nice touch. Like how Sunny is the Alicorn of Hope. I think that works really well with her character in the movie and has some potential.

I really hope g6 is in a completely separate universe than g4. One of the concepts for g5 was a Viking-esc setting which I think could be really interesting. The cutie marks looked more like cave drawings and they had accessories that matched the Viking aesthetic. I just want g6 to be a whole new group of characters separate from g4 in every way possible. Except maybe Luna and Celestia since I think they’re really interesting characters imo. I would love to see them expand on the idea of Skyros and maybe how Luna and Celestia sorta became the celestial guardians. It’s a shame g5 failed so badly but that’s really Hasbro’s fault for taking on people who really didn’t understand the legacy of g4. It was only a paycheck to them and they thought it would be fine. But I hope that this gen crashing and burning is a lesson for them to put extra thought and time into making sure g6 isn’t a total dumpster fire.

This series, is why I decided that Make Your Mark is an alternate timeline.

@ikmwrime29sorryaira60

4 күн бұрын

The one where Twilight misplaced her braincells?

6:34 Butterflies don’t get their wings over the night 🎶 It all takes time 🎶 Birds don’t just wake up and fly 🎶 It comes from deep inside 🎶 Find your light! 🎶 Let it, let it glow 🎶 You got it, got it, go! 🎶 Find your light! 🎶 You gotta let it glow 🎶 Every pony can 🎶

I love the concept of G5, but the execution was done so poorly it hurts. Even if all of Equestria actually ended up getting segregated into only 3 areas, you can make those areas huge and full of life! Expand on fantasy aspect and how each race evolved without magic. I literally made an AU where Pegasi take a more Cyberpunk route to explore ways they could fly again/make up for the lack of flight, Earth ponies stayed more traditional but evolved in a more Steampunk like style and Unicorns believing what happened to be a curse evolved more spiritually with things like astrology, crystal properties, more of a nature/Cottagecore type of thing. This way not only can they incorporate things like modern technology but keep the fantasy elements. Naturally in terms of the characters, literally keep it consistent. They were all fine in the movie just do your homework when taking over from writing the characters. Also in terms of what happened in between and Opaline being an actual threat? this is centuries in the future. Taking the apocalypse route is such a fun idea of having Twilight going missing in the same way Luna went "missing" for 1000 years. The crystals could've easily been used as a "If something were to happen to me, take these crystals, protect the magic, you all know what to do". Which resulted in future generations forgetting the message (again after centuries) and Opalines interference causing magic to not completely disappear, but lay dormant. Honestly even if it wasn't Opalines involvement imagine how cool it would be to have that mystery of what caused that to happen, and Opaline is this new "threat" who isn't this great evil but is an Alicorn from this new mysterious Alicorn location who just wants that power? She could literally stay the exact same way she is in the show but it'll be less annoying with how nonsensical the story/lore is. I could go on but I've essayed long enough. So much potential, they just put the pieces in the wrong places.

6:34: What is the key to a family? (Oh oh) What is the key to a home? What is the part that I missing? (Oh oh) To help me find where I belong? I'm searching, I'm looking for something. Something that comes from the heart. (From the heart) Cause sometimes you need something to lift you up, and help to reignite your spark.

@midnightthesmartfox9981

4 ай бұрын

And even when it feels so confusing when you’re alone. You knoooooow we’ve got each other to find our way home

You know what’s the worst thing about G5? Its that it bears the name My Little Pony, a series well worth putting more time and effort into making a beloved franchise, Lauren Faust made the show because she wants to make a show that everyone can love, not just little girls, some of my favorite things about Friendship is Magic and being a brony is that it encourages fans to make their own music, fan animations, their own oc ponies and other creatures from Equestria, and making unique incredible art, hell, even fans made their own games based off of the show and we used to have a comic con that’s MLP based called Brony-con! The show encourages the fan base to make their own stories based off of the show and G4 came out in 2010, G5, 2019, there’s no excuse for it to be this awful. First, they purposely lied to our faces about Grogar, they ruined any hope for Equestria Girls getting a season 3 like it was originally planned, now they gave us this pathetic excuse of a Generation and sequel. I weep for the future of this franchise,😠😒 more reasons why after all that, I hate Hasbro with a passion!😡 And you know what’s the worst part of this is, none of this need to happen at all and G4 isn’t even close to being finished or in this case, fixed all the problems from seasons 8 and 9 and finished the story arcs we expect to see in a final season.

@benjaminbarriga7821

2 ай бұрын

I really hate Generation 5 so much. I will say this, I could name only 3 people who would save G5 right now, Faolan Cortez, Doc Anubis, and that G5 smart alec nerd KZreadr named "Hawk Nightwing". Look I appreciate what Hawk Nightwing is trying to do to save G5 but at this point I feel like he's just wasting his time.

@tylermccaw8092

2 ай бұрын

@@benjaminbarriga7821Don’t forget “Makaryo”, he’s another one who makes G5 actually tolerable.

@benjaminbarriga7821

2 ай бұрын

@@tylermccaw8092 I don't know man, Makaryo is not exactly a G5 reviewer. While yes he does like G5, but his channel is mostly MLP G5 Parody animation videos. He doesn't make reviews of MYM episodes nor TYT episodes, he just made a video of why he likes G5 despite many others hating it, he even said in that video that it was not made to defend G5 or anything, it's just to share his thoughts and feelings about G5. So yeah he may like MLP G5 but I wouldn't necessarily call him a G5 defender. I will say that while watching Makaryo's "Why I Like MLP G5" video I can't help but feel bad for that G5 fan's comment Makaryo showed in his video receiving a death threat from a G5 hater. While I don't like G5, I must agree that sending death threat to someone is unacceptable and nothing to tolerate at all. I may be a G5 hater but at least I don't send death threats to those who like G5. Infact I would never send death threats to anyone. If these people like G5 then that's totally fine, I respect their opinion.

Putting in effort? Actually investing in something? Curating and cultivating a fandom? Combine all three and you get the exact opposite of Hasbro

Great collaboration! Saw part 1, and here for part 2.

6:38 It's portrait day, I want you by my side.

I feel like G5 was just for the money. While the Movie was good.....I feel like the rest of G5 drags the movie down.

There’s so many inconsistencies between G4 and G5, that I decided my headcannon is that G5 takes place in a different timeline.

U 2 are insane for staying on this series til the end

This was and interesting and awesome collab video glad to see you both cover this topic. I do wish Make your Mark did cover the events from the comic to help build the world a little and setup Opaline a little more, we could have had Discord be a mentor to the new main six and help them to understand the past and magic. Thanks for this awesome video the both of you were awesome and made some good points~!!!

@jessicatouvell6859

4 ай бұрын

I would have loved to see the new group travel to what is left of Canterlot in the show, maybe to help discover what happened to the magic (beyond what Spike told them) or maybe to learn about what life was like before tribes split up. Or perhaps go to the Crystal Empire to see if Flurry Heart (or her descendants depending on time difference) are there. Anything better than a quadrupedal Spike showing up (even though he had always bipedal in G4)

These are not G5 issues, these are NETFLIX issues! Similar criticisms could be said about most of the shows my daughter watches on Netflix (the only difference: those shows don't have fandoms to call them out on it). G4 was made for cable television, and I think that brought with it an expectation that the channel's wider demographic will view the show (including parents). But G5 is a cookie-cutter Netflix cartoon, which tend to be hyper-focused on extremely narrow demographics. Only girls between the ages of 6 1/2 to 7 1/4 are expected to click on the icon, and the writing is nothing more than hitting a series of checkboxes that a marketer thinks that specific demographic likes. It's naive - G4 was a hit because it appealed to a wide demographic including adults. Likewise, Bluey is a hit because it appeals to parents. But some Netflix shows have such a narrow target demographic, that my daughter has outgrown the show between the first and second season!

Sadly Make your mark screams of ESG. Sunny is mary sued and often sidelined, or is just blatantly stupid or blind. Hitch was Basically relegated to kind friend because we cant show him being a cop that would upset the anticop people. Zip took over his job and became a one track detective who was oblivious to any and all feelings of others and became intrusive. Pip, was just social media star who learned to put the phone down from time to time. Izzy became pinkie squared and was annoying AF, and Misty got the most focus and basically became the main character later because she was the disadvantaged youth screwed out of her childhood. And no shocker she got the absolute most character development. Now not saying there is anything wrong with the once villain becoming one of the strongest characters, ((Green ranger from og power rangers comes to mind.)) But with how these characters were destroyed after the movie was just heartbreaking. Combine with them coddling and treating the viewers like 2 year olds and not trusting that kids are actually intelligent and can handle more real world situations. ((Like Bluey a show literally made for Toddlers where as MyM is made for 7-13 year olds)) Combine with the absolute terrible Tell your tale shorts on YT being the lowest of low effort garbage. Being draw is Piss ugly Bean mouth ((calarts garbage)) And being almost required for some things to make sense in MyM while at the same time also contradicting it. It feels like they purposely wanted to ruin everything G4 had built up. Plus I personally don't think Hasbro wanted it to go that way, i feel that was all Netflix pushing its agenda and having to tiptoe around YT's nonsense so they could market it to kids. As they cant really monetize stuff for kids on YT, and the toys aren't selling.

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

4 ай бұрын

Perfectly said, there you have it.

Opaline attacked Equestria/Dragon Lands, was defeated by overpowered Magic of Friendship, escaped, sneakily broke friendships while disguised, attacked again, succeeded because friendship magic does not work without friendship. It's *THAT* simple.

Generation five was... disappointing. They never explored the world. Never searched for Twilight's home. What happened to the Spirit of Harmony? Or the clubhouse or whatever it was called that came from the remains of the Tree of Harmony? What about Twilights Castle in Ponyville? Or Ponyville itself? Canterlot? What happened to Cloudsdale?

Since the creator of the video asks to share his thoughts, here we go - why is no one talking about the root problem of G5? The fact that show is written for an obviously different audience? All the details are not important in this case - plot, continuity, characters or jokes. The MLP cartoon writers changed their *approach*. G5 reminds me of stupid cartoons for girls, something cheap and designed to advertise toys (glitter!! more!!!). There are a lot of them, nobody remember them, but children watch them all the time. The only exception I know is Ever After High - this show had a different approach, so the cartoon itself is quite interesting, although it’s also just an advertisement for a doll line. And it was cut short too. As a rando from the Internet, I make a prediction: G5 will live for ten years or so, thanks to lifeline from G4 merch and fandom, then it will be relaunched again.

My favorite song is without a doubt Starshine time but I don’t feel typing the entire song into this comment right now so I’ll leave it at that

@UnboxingAlyss

4 ай бұрын

I thought I was the only person who actually liked this song. 😞

What I hate most is that Misty's backstory can be compared child kidnapping trauma. A book I'm reading called "Pulling the Chariot of the Sun" is a memoir about how the author was kidnapped as a child. The author said that he was told lies about his father being a criminal. He was also told his mother gave him away as she was too young to take care of him. We can only assume, to justify her not going back to her father, was that she was told that her father was a bad guy. Then she jumps into her fathers arms when she sees him, so all I just said couldn't of possibly happened. Bad writing and bad research into these types of trauma.

Invincible's mid-season break immediately reminded me of this show's pacing (I haven't watched Invincible btw), to the point of it killing more and more hype and momentum that the show had, with the only people left just wanting to see what the hell happened between this show and G4. The only difference is that there was no mid-season break, that was literally how long each season was, and yet it was hard for me to believe that the seasons were actually finished!

Bronies reaction to MLP G2 & G3 after watching G5 :"Maybe we treated you to harshly"

I just realized we don't know happened to flurry heart.......😃

@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll

4 ай бұрын

Your right! What happened to the princess of umm…what is Flurry the princess of?

@AxsorXI

4 ай бұрын

Hasbro doesn't care about that.

My little pony make your mark 9/10 show for me.

Even after enjoying A New Generation, I never had high hopes for Make Your Mark. Curiosity as to where the story would go from there, perhaps, but I expected it to always stand sadly in the shadow of Friendship is Magic. "Apparently, the concept of Chekhov's Gun does not exist in G5." - Nor did it exist in G4's 9th season. 😆

Could it be that opaline did what she did in the comics. And when that failed because twilight made the 3 crystals. she attacked the deagons which lead to twilight making the dragon crystal. And making a bubble to keep opaline out

I've been waiting for it to happen and today I was in Ollie's Bargain Outlet to find that most of the original g5 figures and mini figs are there. Our Walmarts here in TX no longer even have a shelf space for MLP. Good job, Has Bros.

I already wrote that a few times under other videos, but I'll write it again here... IMHO, the biggest problem with G5 was/is a lack of someone who gives a damn and holds the reins. In G4, Lauren (and later Meghan ) played this role, taking care of quality control and ensuring that some fundamental canon was being followed (and Lauren had to fight Hasbro's execs a lot to push certain ideas that later made G4 so good). It wasn't always perfect - especially in the later seasons - but leadership and some vision were there. To give an example... I read somewhere (unverified, but it makes sense) that when it comes to Pinkie Pie, Lauren apparently gave specific instructions that Pinkie's jokes were NOT to rely simply on silly humor that only young kids would laugh at but that her gags should be funny for people of all ages. I would say that they followed that rule pretty well for the first five seasons. Regarding G5, there doesn't seem to be a 'Lauren '/'Meghan' or any other single leader. It looks more like each episode was written by a bunch of people who were given some basic premise of the show, a random prompt, and were instructed to 'do something with it.' If true, that would explain a lot - including many inconsistencies with the lore and a lack of character development (if there is no long-term vision for a character, writers have nothing to work with). Whatever the reason, it's sad that the potential that the movie had generated was wasted. And don't even get me started with TyT. The mere runtime of that show makes it impossible to write anything other than a silly SoL comedy. And even then, it's hard to do in 5 minutes... It's all just sad, really 😞

@Thinginator

4 ай бұрын

Supposedly, now that MYM is dead, they're revising TYT to have at least occasional 22 minute episodes to tell an ongoing story. Which sounds great in theory! It'd be the 2D G5 the majority of fans actually wanted! It's just too little, too freaking late. I don't expect much of the fandom will actually watch it even if it turns out to be good, because so much of G5 up to this point has been a disappointment and nobody wants to get caught up on the lore.

I decided this series was easier to digest when considering it as a reboot rather than a sequel. even though they have characters, like twilight, with the same designs, names, and possibly personalities as well. G4 borrowed designs and names from previous gens before and it worked just fine. just consider the history of g5 to be a remix of g4 and it becomes easier to digest. something that still bothers me though, is how even as a reboot it doesn't hold itself up. I recently re-watched the majority of g1 and some of g2 and the only thing I can say, is that the only thing that might be less interesting and compelling than g5 is g3. I'm sorry, as much as I enjoy characters like pip and misty, and of course izzy, it just doesn't hold up character wise or plot wise to past installments. It really sucks, because the movie starting off g5 was really good.

They've done Argyle so dirty in MYM, his years of research into Equestria's history were completely ignored in favor of having some characters infodump the answers (which still raise more questions) to the main cast...

@sweetdreams1028

4 ай бұрын

Indeed. In MYM, they used Argyle’s research only once and it was just for where The Dragon Lands were. Considering how Opaline already went there, we could’ve just had Misty learn from Opaline where it was located and inform the main cast.

At least we'll always have g4 and the ludicrous amount of fan art

7:27 Hawk Nightwing in a nutshell G5 haters: I don't like G5, it's the worst ugh. Hawk Nightwing: Hey you take that back, G5 is fun activity for every agent skill level. Sunny's line "Zipp's allowed to like what she likes, just because we enjoy something doesn't mean she has to." is something Hawk Nightwing as a G5 fan and defender needs to understand. Just because he enjoys G5 doesn't mean we G5 haters have to.

3D twilight is ugly,I'm sorry but it's just not- right if you get what I mean

did you forget what opaline did to sparky in chapter 4 she stole his magic and put him on the window of her castle and was going to drop him off? to me it's make sense why he's the one to defeat her but clearly you don't pay attention to the show and want to hate it . 😡😡😡

@tylermccaw8092

2 ай бұрын

Hi. Sorry, I know this is irrelevant to your comment but while we’re on the subject of Opaline, I still don’t how Opaline is even alive in this generation. If she was around when Celestia and Luna were fillies, then how tf is she still around and alive?!?!

The G5 characters need to be voiced by the following: Sunny Starscout = Cherami Leigh Hitch Trailblazer = Troy Baker Izzy Moonbow = Jessica Straus Pipp Petals = Ashly Burch Zipp Storm = Merle Dandridge Misty Brightdawn = Liliana Mumy Sparky Sparkeroni = Dee Bradley Baker Sprout Cloverleaf = Robin Atkin Downes Phyllis Cloverleaf = Courtenay Taylor Queen Haven = Salli Saffioti Alphabittle Blossomforth = Phil LaMarr Argyle Starshine = Noshir Dalal Opaline Arcana = Vanessa Marshall Jazz Hooves = Stephanie Sheh Rocky Riff = Kirk Thornton Thunder Clap = Andrew Morgado Zoom Zephyrwing = Tara Platt Onyx = Laura Bailey Dapple = Sean Chiplock Peach Fizz = Eden Riegel Seashell = Charlet Chung Glory = Melissa Fahn Posey Bloom = Karen Strassman Windy = Erica Lindbeck Dahlia = Mary-Elizabeth McGlynn Rob = Robbie Daymond Grandma Figgy = Barbara Goodson Elderflower = Philece Sampler Violet Frost = Stephanie Lemelin Comet = Michael Kovach Allura = Debi Mae West Twitch = Dee Bradley Baker Twilight Sparkle = Kira Buckland Spike = Jamieson Price Discord = Gianni Matragrano Additional Voices = Yuri Lowenthal, Steve Blum, Fred Tatasciore, Nolan North, Liam O'Brien, Kari Wahlgren, Jennifer Hale, Nika Futterman, Ray Chase, Robert Clotworthy, Tom Kenny, Derek Stephen Prince, Erin Fitzgerald, Dameon Clarke, Tricia Helfer, Kaiji Tang, Mark Ivanir, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Jane Perry, Cree Summer, Quinton Flynn, Antony Del Rio, Andre Sogliuzzo, JB Blanc, John DiMaggio, Darin De Paul, Johnny Yong Bosch, Elias Toufexis, Ike Amadi, Dave Fennoy and Neil Kaplan. These are who Hasbro should've chosen when they announced Tell Your Tale and Make Your Mark. Unfamiliar with those guys? Watch recent shows and play recent video games to know them.

Combine the lack of world building with the technology change and generational inconsistencies and G5 feels like a post-apocalyptic wasteland with small population hubs where everyone is just going "Like, ohmigosh, we're having fun! Selfies!" Like, something is deeply wrong with this world and everyone is just on the Axiom from Wall-E or something. What happened to the old one is not actually explored it all, it just remains empty and bereft of the life it once had.

@marek1shtar538

Ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, when I saw the movie I thought the same too. Surprised they never followed up on that. there's a weird empty vibe to places outside the three villages that had me going, "This is a post apocalypse, ain't it?". I never got a chance to watch any of the G5 stuff outside the movie, so it's a little strange they never did that

I think the songs are good, sue me, also I think the problems started at the end of G4, honestly seasons 8-9 are pretty bad

G5 is not just full of plot holes, it pretends to be the kind of show which wants you think and theorize. But you can't make magic do random things because the plot demands and then expect the audience to remember Sparky hugging a tree and glowing in "Growing Pains" as a sign that this tree will become very important. Especially if it becomes important in "Nightmare on Mane Street".

@jessicatouvell6859

4 ай бұрын

Also, ponies individual magic seems to be a lot weaker than in G4. I mean, what happened to pegasi controlling the weather? What happened to unicorn's teleportation magic and transformation magic? What happened to pegasi walking on clouds? All we see in MYM is levitation magic from the unicorns and flying for pegasi. Also, why is Sunny not a full alicorn like Twilight? Is her partial transformation meant to indicate that her work in unifying the ponies incomplete? In G4 all Twlight had to do was understand Starswirls spell and finish it, and boom she got wings. Yes, the spell messed with the other's cutie marks and destinies (the only real cutie mark magic in G4 besides getting the Cm's in the first place) but once she helped her friends help each other she became a princess. Sunny literally brought the three tribes together as one nation AND brought back magic, but she didn't get a full transformation? Are we (or Sunny) missing something here?

@SMT-ks8yp

4 ай бұрын

​@@jessicatouvell6859 lack of powers in common ponies should be understandable, considering thw long absence of magic, probably accompanied by lack of knowledge. Except it isn't, seeing how in G5 one only needs to be themselves to use magic and no learning or theory is required. Well, Twilight wasn't given alicornhood just for finishing the spell. The book was first shown in "The Crystal Empire" in a way that implies it was the next level of friendship studies Celestia, the one accessed through passing Celestia's test of saving the empire. So everything in the show prior to it was the previous level, and Twilight was rewarded for the sum of her achievements during the first 3 seasons. Meanwhile Sunny only made peace between two towns and one village, it's something on the level of "Over a Barrel". And also nothing she did on purpose actually helped! She was given wings and horn for the things that happened mostly behind her back while she was chasing the useless crystals.

@jessicatouvell6859

4 ай бұрын

@@SMT-ks8yp Exactly. I can understand the Earth ponies having to learn their new magic as they go, because the Earth ponies in G4 didn't have that magic, so it is completely new. But the unicorns did have magic, so they should at least be practicing things to see what they can do rather than assume it is just levitation. I mean, even in G4 Twilight had learned (without any schooling) how to flip pages (as seen in her CM story). This is what led to her studying magic and ultimately led to going to Celestia's school. The only time we see the unicorns using magic that wasn't levitating something was in the Wishday special when they were using 'an ancient unicorn snow spell', which doesn't make sense in the G4 storyline since pegasi always had the weather thing (like when they were talking about the founding of Equestria in G4). They do seem to have plans to fix this in TYT with Misty. but this isn't about TYT. To be fair Twilight didn't do much except get Fluttershy to help Rainbow Dash. Fluttershy talked to the animals, began to glow and Twilight slapped her necklace on her. Boom! Fluttershy is normal again. Fluttershy got RD to help Rarity, RD got Rarity to help AJ. Rarity got AJ to help Pinkie. All Twilight did there was the necklaces. The girls did everything else themselves. Then she finished the spell and the necklaces took her to that place where Celestia talked to her. Sunny at least had more to do with the whole uniting the tribes. Sunny and her dad made the lantern that led Izzy to Maretime Bay. Sunny was the one to decide to go to ZH to talk to the pegasi. She was the one to decide to gather the crystals. Granted, Zipp was the one to come up with the plan to get the Pegasus Crystal, but the rest was Sunny. At least until everyone showed up at MB after Sunny gave up.

To be fair about the sun and moon, in the second part of “school days haze” the sun sets by itself. Celesta lost her magic and the sun still moves on its own. Which kinda makes one wonder.

They have World building on fan fiction stories about G5 G6

Idea if this comes back the villen attacks sunny so she has to give her alicorn powers to Misty where she turns into a true alicorn

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16:43 No.

That ending.😆🤣

What about Bob? Wait a minute! *I'M BOB!* How did *I* end up in all this?!

I will say, Whered It Go went so hard!!! AJ Bridel had some amazing vocals in that song, though in the show itself, it wasn't utilized well

Tell your Tale and the comics, despite a few plot holes, inconsistency and a loose connection to Make your Mark, does a lot better job at what this show couldn't do. The comics have plots and long arcs you would expect from an episode of Friendship is Magic and have given us characters that almost feel like they could have a place in this expandable world. Tell your Tale, despite underusing some characters, gave us a few interesting plots and the whacky creative shenanigans, like the magic gems or the sentient cake dragon, which would work for a world where there might be no limit to what magical things could happen.

Look if people enjoy G5 then go right ahead you can like it and I'm not going to try to make you feel bad for liking it if it's something you enjoy then go for it am I myself kind of feel like a hypocrite because while I'm not a huge fan of the show I am a fan of the comics and the lore and as far as the law is concerned G5 is a giant middle finger. I'll just sum up my thoughts with this a bunch of inconsistencies character assassination and overall just kind of makes you think well that everything G4 did was pointless. So as far as I'm concerned G5 is an alternate reality that's the only thing I can say to make myself feel better

For me, I never had high hopes for this series. I’ve been a fan of plenty of different franchises, as an example, the Marvel Universe had just been failing, and most other sequels that I see whether from movies, books, or games, I’m usually disappointed afterward, so when G5 was announced, I wasn’t really expecting much. Part of me did want the show to be good, I thought the movie was fine, but the series fel flat on its face on the first episode.

I missed g4 💔 , but one thing , is the comics of g5 canon? Well I haven't read them for a while , but they were not bad !

So much potential, so many interesting ideas, so little delivery.

Ok guys but we now know G1 is Cannon to g5 in the new tyt episode with the G1 windows so what if elder flower actually was taking abt the G1 moondancer?

6:35 This is cheating because you brought it up earlier, but Opalineʼs villain song, with the chorus that she is a villain. Other than that, there are ones that I could *recognize* because they are used a couple times, and I think one was used in Chapter 1 and Chapter 6 and nowhere in between and was still recognizable, probably? But I could not produce any of them.

Song: evil Lyric: I'm a evil!!!

I'm just gonna go read fanfics now...

Wait till you see the new movie Megamind Vs Doom Syndicate.

I'd like to see you do this for TYT next

So me your pony moves nananana shake it shake it shake it

You know what? I'm just gonna pretend that G5 didn't happen

@Heavilune

4 ай бұрын

same here!

@BobHershey

4 ай бұрын

Yes! Let's just write off G5 as a non-canon Hasbro-sponsored fanfic series.

@maciejsuchowiejko1919

4 ай бұрын

@@BobHershey That would be the best for both G4 and G5.

6:34 "Cause I've got you, and you've got me! We're different cause we're friends, Yeah! We're a family! Even if you're scared or incomplete. We're different cause we're friends, yeah! We're a family!"

ig how the cutie mark works or earned is when you helped or inspired another pony, each story of the mane 5 shows that they help or inspired another pony. for instance, sunny and hitch help another pony and BAAAM !! they got their mark. Also, Misty, She helped the mane 5 and got her mark. About inspiration i guess it's zipp and izzy. Zipp inspired pipp and got her mark and izzy inspired other pony that trash isn't trash.... Ig that's how works ???

For me I just feel indifferent Don't get me wrong.The potential an idea for the show.We're amazing and plus the characters were a breath of fresh air But I can't help feeling that there was a ton of corporate meddling with this series instead of actual writing going on Again, hopefully, I can get through to anybody about this.Because this is not a My Little Pony thing about this sequel.Failing this is a hasbro problem Has bro. Has fumbled the bag on a bunch of their sequel series Transformers robots in Disguise. G I joe And now make. Your mark. Hasbro has been struggling to have a continuous continuity with all the shows and wall?Yes I do believe that a sequel series can be possible especially with star trek the next generation I feel as though every time that they try to do a sequel series.They always lose sight and focus first on marketing the toys rather than the story at hand Now don't get me Wrong, they are in the right to do that. After all, they have to promote their products on the shows. But it always felt as though the product placement didn't feel shoved down your throats. But when the original creative for that series leave has bro.Always thinks that now that The main writers for the good show are gone.They can have a complete control over it and continue on as normal.Because the little kids wouldn't cand that all that matters is that they get to see the same bumblebee or a new pony continue on for where the old left off But that's not always the case.Every time that corporations have way too much control over a show.Let's show itself.Starts to suffer.I believe that there is a balance between when a corporation has to meddle.With the show a little bit and one writers need to push back for their ideas But I believe that this time hasbro have lost a ton of its fan base from both my little pony and transformers because of their constant corporate meddling with the shows But then basically having immortality of we know what children like and we kno what they're looking in for a t v show and that they are calling all the shots for the writers Now keep in mind.These are my opinions But i'm honestly hoping that after the fifth generation of ponies is over and when the dust Finally, settles Hasbro is going to realize that they need to switch app their strategy again in order to save their I.P's from falling back into obscurity And to anybody who does want to make a sequel series towards an original property.The only advice that I can give is this Go back to that original property. Study it and figure out the reasons why people enjoyed it in the first place. Once there, figure out a creative concept to shake-up the formula of it. Eventually, it's going to find its own sense of identity.

I think its the sequel to the Warners Bros G4 Series to MLP 1983 to the Present of George Garza & Superdoglover1.

wow

The one song I could think of if “gonna be my day” but after the first 2 guesses where going to be portrait day and sparkys lullaby

6:37 😐 I can’t…. I simply can’t.

I think twilight made the sun and moon automatic, just in case something happened to her

i like every my little pony shows and movies but my favorite is make your mark. all the songs are really good my favorite pony is sunny its a great show and as good as the movie a new generation. i would do reviews of my little pony but it would be impossible for me to do something like that. i all would be able to do is say i like the episode or show and that would be it. but still i would like to collab with a brony and do my cartoons having my lions meet some bronys ocs. doing collabs might help me with my animation but i will see what i can do if i never get collabs. but till i figure out the animation for my cartoons i will be posting gaming videos. anyways this was a great collab you guys did. i watched part 1 first then came to this channel and watched part 2.

And also some macarons

Sigh... Generation 5 shouldve be it's own thing!

The is series ok and Tell your tale better series than Make your mark.Also I like Tell your tale series

6:34 I'm a villain, I'm a villain, I'm a villain..... Sorry, I don't remember rest of lyric

I'm thinking of rewriting g5

So Puts your hoves up hight cuz we feeling all right

Tell your Tale is slightly better

Allura is not a power hungry villian She wants to save or free her brother. Who might be in the g1 equestria

Great Video!

I thought blue strike normal wait forgot time-travel does this, makes you nuts, doctor who logic

my fav song is mane family

The world building and lore of MLP is actually what ended up bringing me into the series. Im a writter, I love to write lore, my own stories and universes, to see g5 rip that away from MLP is...really depressing.

Opaline is like Wile E. Coyote the cartoon followed Roadrunner and nothing Wile. E. did was even interesting.

Even that G5 is not even comparable to G4 I still like Make your Mark more than Tell your Tale. Tell your Tale is just too chaotic, out of context and the things about the phones and the likes and influencers... it just too reflect our poor world with tiktok and other cancer. Everyone too addicted to their devices. No action. Just problems about deleted photos from a laptop, lack of internet fame... these are not a real problems. These are just psychological problems about beeing addicted to something. Ok ok. They went lost in a forest... but that is it. Also it is hard to learn anything form it. In G4 there were a good explanations about variety of real problems to which we could reflect to but in G5 and especiappy in TYT? Everyone is taking stuff that does not belong to them and mixing it with the internet addiction... it is just too much. Also plot is nonexistent. And Zipp in TYT vs MYM is so different. In MYM she is serious and like a nice secret agent investigating on her own but in TYT? She is like the others and nothing else. Like if she had two different personalities when compared to both variants of the series. But Pipp is same in both... maybe in the TYT she is just a exaggerated version of herself even more addicted to social media.

that s why I believe that g5 is an alternate universe

The comcis are the best part of g5, no discussion there.

Very true and amazing vid ❤