the return of starbuck was the way the show should have headed

Definitely not the first time people had seen Kent McCord. He was an Adam-12 from 1968 to 1975 among dozens of other roles.

Richard Hatch's attempt to give new life to the original series, I think, would have been awesome! "The Second Coming." But, when I first heard of SyFy's reboot of the series, I was excited. That is until I began to watch the first few minutes. What a disappointment.

@cubdukat

2 жыл бұрын

At least it wasn't Bryan Singer's attempt to bring it back on Fox. That was doomed from the start.

Screw the reboot. Never had any interest in watching that. Too bad the series Battlestar Galactica : The Second Coming that was pitched by Apollo character actor Richard Hatch in 1999 was not considered nor picked up by Universal. It would have been a true sequel to the original Battlestar Galactica. I would have surely tuned in to watch it had it been made.

Galactica 1980 was horrible. Super Kids were stupid. The two new leads could not hold a candle to Starbuck and Apollo. The final Starbuck Episode was great.

Plot hole, the Galactica got close enough to receive Earth signals but the Cylons couldn't pick them up?

The best part about the Cylons showing up on Halloween... Mr William Daniels sitting behind the wheel of a car with the Centurion sitting in the back seat. Mr Daniels saw his future in the rearview mirror.

@raymondcanessa7208

11 ай бұрын

There are those that believe Kitt was reversed engineered Cylon.

@williammitchell4417

11 ай бұрын

@@raymondcanessa7208 there is the possibility. Glenn Larson produced both of them. I have a feeling that Glenn more than likely had the idea for KITT from Cora AKA Recon Viper 1.

I remember watching the original show back when it first aired and enjoyed it! HATED 1980!! Based on what you describe, and using an adult filter as to what went wrong when 1980 wasin production, there can only be one conclusion: Cocaine. It's one helluva drug! There can be no other explanation for what went on in the writers room at the time.

When I was younger I caught the original Battlestar Galactica on cable and thought it was just Star Wars but more disco.

Big fan of the original BSG, but never became a fan of the reboot. Had models of the Galactica, Viper and Cylon fighter hanging from my ceiling. Yes, 1980 was a total Sugar Honey Ice Tea show, but watched every episode in hopes that the original genre returned. Unfortunately, with the writers they had, it never happened.

I have a few ideas for What Went Wrong. Shrek the Third, Alien Force Season 3, ThunderCats Roar and Heroes season 2-4.

Even if it hadn't been placed in a time slot opposite CBS's "60 Minutes", "Galactica 1980" would've probably still have been a ratings failure because of its many inadequacies. Except for the pilot episode and 'The Return of Starbuck', the episodes generally lacked the action, drama and suspense of the original. Kent McCord and Barry Van Dyke are fine actors, but they certainly weren't Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict. I also felt sorry for poor Lorne Greene, whose role as Adama was reduced to a bit part.

I have a few ideas for What Went Wrong. Quest for Camelot, Littlest Pet Shop Season 4, ThunderCats Roar and Happy Tree Friends season 3-4.

Kent McCord from what? Kent McCords major role was on Adam 12.

@johnbockelie3899

2 жыл бұрын

Boxey as a grown up.

You Should Watch Mummies Alive Next

The issue I had with this show was the overused scenes/space battles that they used too many times. This was also seen when Larson did 'Buck Rogers In The 25th Century'. There's a moment on 'Buck Rogers' (the show) where you see a Colonial Viper and a Cylon fighter.... talk about being cheap. The 2003 reboot was far superior in the special effects, but everything looked as though they were on earth. The biggest disappointment came from an interview with Edward James Olmos, who was great in 'Blade Runner', said in that interview "if there's aliens, then I don't want to be a part of it". My reaction was like "you're playing a role in a Sci-Fi story based on the original that had aliens".

@huskyfaninmass1042

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the people involved in the reboot were ashamed that they were doing science fiction. The humans on BSG evolved separately from the people of Earth for thousands of years(yarons?), but their culture seemed indistinguishable from modern western civilization.

As a kid of 10 in 1980 I remember being utterly disappointed by this show.

@BLD426

3 ай бұрын

At 13 I had to disown all things Galactica. Just not cool.😁

The concepts were also heavily based on Mormon mythology, something that both Glen A.Larson's original series and the Ron Moore reboot pushed a little too hard in the later episodes. I saw the theatrical international releases of all 3 films as well - 'Battlestar Galactica' (the original 'Saga Of A Star World' pilot before being toned down for television), 'Mission Galactica - The Cylon Attack' (edited from the episodes 'The Living Legend' pt 1 & 2 along with 'Fire In Space') & 'Conquest Of The Earth' (edited from 'Galactica Discovers Earth' pilot & 'The Night The Cylons Landed' from the 1980 series, as well as inexplicably adding Baltar into the mix with scenes cut from 'The Young Lords' episode, in order to have a main antagonist villain for the film. It also gave Dillon a love interest in reporter Jamie Hamilton). 'Conquest' was the most disappointing by far, along with the 1980 series itself. Correct in that the cast & crew were massively reduced due to the lower budget, for example John Dykstra was not special effects supervisor on 1980, which resulted in most space footage being stock from the 1st season, or the poor rear projection footage from the '74 movie 'Earthquake' being superimposed with Raiders from the invasion of Caprica featured in the original '78 pilot, simply retooled for the Cylons invasion of Earth, which turned out to be no threat as it was just a dream sequence, only further frustrating viewers. I think the biggest mistake of all was not having 'The Return Of Starbuck' as the pilot episode for Galactica 1980 but the final one, which had a scripted 2nd part that explained where the unlikeable & polarising character Zee came from, but was not filmed due to ABC's cancellation. It was the best episode hands down & would have satisfied viewers of the original series far better with a resolution for one of it's main characters. But some major plot-holes were always an issue, such as being set in contemporary 1980, supposedly 20 years after the moon landing transmission that ended the original, where it was only 11 years in reality. It wasn't Galactica 1989 lol Not to mention the scripted dialogue & lack of character development etc. Sure the original is a dated product of its time, but the woeful 1980 series really hasn't held up well in comparison, both when it first aired & today. Lorne Greene RIP

EVERYTHING.

The other problem with 80 is that it ditched the whole premise of the show. The names of the characters seemed to suggest that the Capricans landed on Earth when man was still very primitive (Adama, Cassiopeia, Appolo, Tighe [Tigress River] ). They would then gradually share their knowledge with the humans and it sparked the Bronze Age and Mesopotamia, and the Capricans eventually merged into the population. It provided a sci-fi explanation as to how the Bronze Age appeared to have happened so quickly. Instead they landed in LA and wasted everyone's time.

Thanks for the video. I was part of the original write-in campaign and was so disappointed on its cancellation. You are spot-on. I love the original series. I was so disappointed with 1980 it could have been great, but in my opinion needed both Apollo and Starbuck back as main characters as well as good writing.

I'll tell you what went wrong, they took way to long getting to Earth. It should've resolved everything by the end but just like everything they couldn't just write a normal ending

What Want Wrong ideas: Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 TV series) George of the Jungle (2007 TV series) Season 2

The whole concept of Galactica 1980 was stupid. I was a super-fan during the first season. I could barely keep from throwing up during the 2nd. I agree that the return of Starbuck was the best of the 2nd season but it came too late to matter. The reboot was pretty dark but it was fun to watch.

@cubdukat

2 жыл бұрын

Universal kinda didn't have much of a choice. George Lucas took back his motion control rig and half of Dykstra's crew and they all went back to ILM, and it took Universal a while to come up with its own effects house. By the time they were able to shoot new visual effects, it was already too late. If they were smart, they would have wrapped up "Galactica" after the first season, waited until Universal Heartland was up to speed, then brought it back, instead of juggling both "Galactica" and "Buck Rogers."

the lack of action with the cylons, you could tell how low budget it was

Do you plan eventually releasing both Forgotten Television and What Went Wrong episodes on the same week similar to when you were reviewing Power Rangers you had Top 10's on Monday and you had Fan Commentary on Wednesday

For Forgotten Television you can review Primeval and What Went Wrong you can review its pseudo sequel series Primeval New World

That intellect kid, for runner to Wesley Crusher.

@aquamarine2044

Жыл бұрын

Shut up Wesley! :)

@raymondcanessa7208

11 ай бұрын

Cousin Oliver did what he did for the Brady's for BSG

I recently finished seaon 1 on Tubi, (I had vague memories of the show in reruns) Considering the time it was made, I really enjoyed it. I started season 2....and almost fell out of my seat, saying "WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THIS?!! Who are these little kids with superpowers? Where's Starbuck, Apollo, Boomer (well Boomer was there twice). How the creators and execs thought this was a good idea, I'll never know. There were so many ways they could have continued the show without completely throwing out the great premise and great characters. I'm still in shock🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😄😄, but your video helped me cope!😄

Like all shows the Americans won't leave a working show alone. They assume you have to escalate and expand overtime. Which inevitably gives every show a termination date, you can only expand and escalate so far. When that starts to fail they then go for a complete shift in narrative or the usual time travel or multiverse opt outs... Look at the ones they left alone... MASH, Buffy, Bones, Stargate SG-1

What went wrong with Wing Commander:...they were kids :p Yeah I have never really bothered with 1980, on TOS and love the reboot and Caprica...Caprica is definitely a show that was good and probably could have gotten better had it not been doomed from its inception. The same can be said about Crusade, the Babylon 5 spinoff.

Everything!

Actually, before this show Kent McCord had a rather long run starring in Adam-12, a spinoff of Dragnet. I recognized him at the time. It's a safe assumption that others did too. Good assessment of Galactica 1980 though. It had a lot of problems. Sunday at 7 PM was a lousy time slot. I think maybe ABC wanted to kill it but wanted to look as if they were trying to save it.

They really didn't think this through... XD Also, yeah, I agree, saying this show "stole from Star Wars" is completely bull especially when SW borrowed ideas too, and yet nobody complained about that. There may have been bits, and pieces here, and there that were good, but you can obviously tell this show was extremely rushed. What's even more lame was that the awful 2-part Halloween episode didn't even air on October, and instead April. At least the reboot is much better than this mess. I think for a future FTV review you could take a look at "Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command"!

The "Return of Starbuck" was the ONLY actually good episode

What went wrong with Galactica 1980 abc network Here another show What went wrong with Buck Rogers in 25 th century season 2 Space:1999 2rd season was different too

@B-A-L

2 жыл бұрын

What went wrong with Air Wolf Series 4? Barry Van Dyke!

You’re treading on deep water now, lol.

I actually don’t think this was that bad

Return of Starbuck was only episode of season 2 that was classic way it should have gone. rest of show 1980 was just about earth,and it was dumb but interesting! The last episode was dumbest when they wanted to go back in time to the 1940's and give technology to help the human race get defenses earlier against Cylons later on. Why would that woman reporter ever be so naiive to not speak up against the Galacticans' idea to give technology to the 1940's germans! ,of all people to choose from! Why would Dr. Zee be so dumb to consider it? SHouldnt he have studied some earth history before he gave them the go ahead to go back in time!

I'm still angry about Cousin Oliver showing up.

1980 sucked. BSG had alot of potential, BUT it had too many problems from the begining and never was completely made to that potential.

I remember this show from when watchmojo ranked it number 5 on their top 10 worst tv shows of all time 2016 Some suggestions for this show Manimal The amazing spider man(1978) not to be confused with the toei one

I'm literally watching the first episode right now on The Horror Channel in the UK and it's actually a lot better than I remember! In fact so far it has stood the test of time better than the first episodes of Knight Rider and Buck Rogers! The simulated attack on Los Angeles by the Cylons was incredible for the time, the skybike flying effects were impressive and even Barry Van Dyke was better in it than he was in the last series of Air Wolf and that's saying something! I'll let you know how I get on with the other episodes though!

The bikes. The bikes happened.

2 words. SUPER SCOUTS. Lorne Greene looks fed up answering to a kid who is a Mikybar kid wannabe.

They needed to keep Starbuck and Apollo for starters. Calling Galactica 1980 was a bad move and having that genius kid giving the orders wasn't a great idea either.

“They were doing whatever to put out episodes” Just like the walking dead

A great video! Agreed. Galactica 1880 sucked and was a huge disappointment! The scene where the cyclons invading Earth. Looked liked the same scenes used in the 1974 movie Earthquake. When the nukes were used from the 1983 movie The Day After.

If they had stuck with the original premise of Troy and Dillon pursuing Xavier through pivotal moments in Earth's history, then this show could have been good. But network interference dumbed it down so it could become a kid's show. I actually like the three hour premier and feel it is the best thing about the show. After that, no way.

The ABC network wanted to bring bsg back on the cheap ! With like sitcom money. Terrible idea

Mr Larson and Sgt. Bellisaurio were already working on other projects.

@MarkFoster321789

4 ай бұрын

One in particular called MAGNUM P.I. which the two aforementioned gentlemen collaborated together.

Who has even seen this show?

@susanscott8653

7 ай бұрын

I have! I saw it as a child. It wasn't very good but it had potential.

@Aces77777

7 ай бұрын

@@susanscott8653 Well said👍🏻

@arricammarques1955

6 ай бұрын

The stories were weak with ridiculous plots.

@Dularr

5 ай бұрын

The Halloween episode was funny.

Cwazie. I watched this series before you were born. I remember the first season with Dirk Benedict and Richard Hatch. Just watched the second season, I didn't remember anything about it. Must have been just as bad 40 + years ago 🙄. Your analysis of the second season you're talking about the stars in different content. Kent McCord was a star in the '60's . Barry Van Dyke wasn't famous on Dianosis Murder until afterward. Someone from my Era is much more qualified to do a review 😔

@B-A-L

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunatetly Barry Van Dyke developed kind of a reputation of being a series killer because he was also in the last series of Air Wolf too. Basically if you know your tv series was on it's last legs and you wanted to salvage one last series and save some money on wages then Barry Van Dyke was your cheap go to guy!

No Apollo no Starbuck

It wasn’t dumb it was right on

Short answer a lot

what race are you supposed to be?

When the Galactica found EARTH is what killed it - Commander Adama and some annoying child acting like Jesus......Flying motorcycles.......It all got stupid and it turned fans off - Not having Apollo and Starbuck and Boomer or Colonel Tigh made it worse - It was just to stupid to watch

It stinks because Battlestar Galactica was awesome. Galactica 1980 was terrible.

I personally don't care about the Battlestar reboot, whatsoever.

Even the Starbock episode couldn't dave this garbage series.

Return of Starbuck was awful. It was the best of the worst of galactica. Plot holes galore.

galactica 1980 was bad science fiction writing. How about a videos about What went wrong with Space:1999 or Buck Rogers in 25 th century shows.

what went wrong. it was 1980 quality look bad lol. looks like k.i.t.t in space

It was crap.

galactica 1980 rocks. that is all

Two words: lazy writing

Good review of a terrible series.

@daveofyorkshire301

Жыл бұрын

The first series was pretty good for the time... It went wrong when they tried to reboot it...

@seanbrown453

Жыл бұрын

@@daveofyorkshire301 The reboot was a lot darker than the original. The first series was cancelled just as it moved away from planet of the week type stories and

@daveofyorkshire301

Жыл бұрын

@@seanbrown453 It's why I stopped watching it. It was too dark and everyone would be commuting suicide under those circumstances without moral or humour... Surviving disaster is as much a state of mind as luck and ability... I watched (I think) two episodes and gave up... Knowing the original and seeing Starbuck as the gambling, womanising, comical relief effectively killed the reboot when "he" turned out to be a serious female character... There was no light-hearted elements and it was just wrong in my opinion.

@seanbrown453

Жыл бұрын

@@daveofyorkshire301 I agree. Thee was very little humour in the reboot which made it ,less fun for the viewer. I have noticed a lot of tv series have got darker over the years but may have worked for some but its not been fair to fans. I did watch to its conclusion but it aas a hard watch and I did give up on it initially. I will always wonder how the Ruchard Hatch proposed reboot would have turned out. I heard they are rebooting Battlestar Halactica as a film at some point so hopefully it not as dark and depressing as the reboot series.

@daveofyorkshire301

Жыл бұрын

@@seanbrown453 In a foxhole, in a squadron, being inundated by bombs there is ALWAYS A JOKER stress relief through laughter. This was missing in that show and it made it totally impossible to relate to it...

Completely awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loved the original 1978 but this was pure junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!