The only thing we don't like about our Lance is the LOUD A/C!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We would have preferred ducted AC as it is more quiet.

I think the first mod I would do is either drill a hole right above the coffee maker in the cabinet and run the cord up to the microwave plug or tap into the microwave plug and add a downward facing outlet to the cabinet right above the coffee maker.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I had not thought about tapping into the microwave plug....thank you for that suggestion.

@ashevillegeorge3316

3 жыл бұрын

we did that!

Great video. We have a 2020 Lance 2445 and traveled 16k miles last year. One thing that is really nice is how good the Lance trailers handle all these miles and still look like new. The outside surface looks cool and is easy to clean. We also like that Lance fits all their travel trailers with high end brakes, tires and suspensions. That was very important to us since we use it so much.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We like that too Marc! We were impressed that they put Goodyear Endurance tires on instead of some off brand tires that need to be replaced early on just for peace of mind.

Nice video... Have a 2017 Lance 2285. Yes, the awning is not the greatest. Wind is what makes me nervous.. We have the fixed glass front window, love it. Can't open, but love looking at the stars when possible. Vent covers also work great in summer to help with keeping it cooler... Outlet placement varries by floorplan. We have an outlet under cabinet in kitchen that is perfect for coffee maker. Safe travels.

@kens805

3 жыл бұрын

Plus a good electrician could "jumper" off the outlet he has and put one anywhere he wants.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Cindy and i have been waiting for this one. Good job letting Patty talk.:-)

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

LOL!! No one can leave hate comments this time saying I interrupted my wife! LOL

When you are at your campsite, turn the power to the awning off after you put it out. That will keep it from auto retracting. That way you can keep the door open without worry. Again, only when you are there.👍🏻

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that tip Paul!

We have owned our 1985 Lance 2021 for a yr now. We love it. We went from 42 motor coach to this perfect trailer. The awning is probably the biggest down side but still love it. We are keeping it. Traveling with our e bikes it’s perfect

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

We are loving ours too! Its a great layout for us and see feel that overall it is very well constructed.

Love our Lance 1995! It's really hard for me to come up with anything I don't like. But, I do agree I would like to see a pop-up outlet in the galley.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a great layout with so much room in a 23’ trailer.

It is so funny, the love/dislike relationship that RVers have with their rigs.....this was a very good overview of yours, and appreciate your opinions. NuCamp and Lance are two of our favourites and then again so are YOU!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul! Yes....we are spoiled by NuCamp and Lance and honestly are somewhat RV snobs now! LOL. We love not only a higher quality build but also more modern styling.

Ty for taking the time to make this video very helpful!!

Great information and a video new buyers should watch. When looking for an RV, we look at the bells and whistles and not the bones of the RV. Thanks for the info.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mary!

@suekane7876

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney we have a 2375 Lance and we find the same problem with the star gazer window and the kitchen plug. We love our trailer though.

I really enjoy seeing these videos. The information you share is so invaluable. Thank you.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

It's interesting that the Lance website shows a CCC of 1955, but the sticker on shows 372. That's quite a difference!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Yes....brochures are very deceiving as manufactures will list a base unit with no options, etc. You really have to check each individual units tags to get a true sense.

Hello! Glad you did this video. My questions for both of you. 1) Do you even use that small ledge under your kitchen overhead cabinet... That is one new feature they added and I think 🤔 WHAT CAN I EVEN PUT IN THERE??? Specially if you are trying to avoid visual clutter! 2) Where is the designated place for the paper towel roll! 3) Why is the Cargo Carrying Weight Capacity so low? Lance Manufacturing Co please listen to us, your loyal customers! 4) What is your views on...The backup system, music system, tank systems, awning system, solar system... WHY ARE THESE NOT ALL ON ONE CENTRAL ELECTRONICS SYSTEMS accessible from your cell or a pc/tablet???? The technology is out there! Specially great for boondockers. 5) Are the trend and the needs to up the solar/electric not a real one? For example proper place for portable generator. As for solar & batteries... setup under the dinette. A removeable induction cooktop (gives you uncluttered countertops) and convection microwave would eliminate the stove. So to replace the stove becomes a cupboard to store your induction and instantpot. Now that would be great! Because the reality is that we all have our propane portable grills outside! Am I not correct? Don't get me wrong, we L💗VE our Lance. But have they not heard of boondocking? How we are truely using these trends while using our Lance rv Trailers seems to be seen but not acted upon in their designs & options! How is everyone else using their Lance RV trailer??? Thanks for sharing! We own the smallest Lance because we wanted compact and ways to boondock with the options of adding to the solar system. We all know we live outside our RVs but the inside is our comforts. Stay safe Vie 🇨🇦

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We have not found anything that seems to fit on that ledge under the kitchen. It’s cute but so far for us its worthless. We ordered a paper towel holder on Amazon and installed it under the top cabinet in the kitchen which has worked out well for us. I know the new 2075 comes with the In-Command system where you can control everything from a central panel or via a smart phone app. My guess is cost plays into manufactures not using it on all trailers. It would make sense for companies like Lance to listen to their loyal customers....there is so much useful information they could use from owners to improve their products and increase sales.

@CallMeVie

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney I I totally agree! So how often do you guys cook lunchn and dinner inside? Stay safe Love your channel Vie 🇨🇦

beautiful job but as i think and you think lance is the way to go!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Overall we do love our Lance and no trailer we have found is perfect.

Love the energy and editing! You guys are fun. Thanks for the detailed review. Looked at a 1995 yesterday, can't wait to join the club soon!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! The 1995 is a very nice layout and I have heard it has a lighter tongue weight which is good as the 1985 has a very heavy tongue weight.

Love the deep sink and blinds, I also feel like they place the outlets in the worst places always.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We really love the deep sinks. Some of the sinks we see in RV’s are almost worthless when they are so small and shallow.

@maxyourjourney

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney yes can't even clean those big griddles

There seems to be a lot of “voodoo math” in manufacturer’s specs . As Mark Freeman points out , Lance’s published cargo capacity is 1955 lbs. & hitch weight is approx. 560 lbs. Your prior video points out that “actual” hitch weight is quite a bit more . It seems to me that retailers would be doing their customers a great favor by giving the ACTUAL “out the door” weight on the hitch & EACH axle . My nephew is an engineer that does accident investigations for individuals and insurance companies . He will be the first to say that if you are involved in an accident , you do not want to be on the wrong side of vehicle loading .

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

You definitely can not go by brochures when it comes to trailer weights.

@richardhensel6716

3 жыл бұрын

It also has to do with what options you get installed on the camper. I have a 2019 1985. Bought it in late 2018. Without my things in it it was 4900 lbs. Dry with with Max weight of 5700 Gives me 800lbs for my things. Broucher listed it at 4245lbs. But with optional add ons brought it up to 4900. Have done a around 10000 miles with it. Love my lance camper.

I had the same problem in my rv ... shower not draining except when the valve was open. I took it back to the dealer and the baffle was installed incorrectly. It works great now!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that tip...we will have our dealer check ours out.

those fur babies are adorable!

Great video Patrick! Nice Edit too! That's a good list of things for folks to think about if their looking at a Lance trailer.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Todd! And did you notice...I never interrupted Patty! LOL

Great video Patrick and Patty. We have a 2021 1985 and love it, and I agree with most of your "like & dislikes". Thanks for all the informative videos.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It’s such a great layout and works well for us.

I watched your other video about the 1985, and you have convinced me that it is the one for me! Although your dislikes are valid, there is so much about this make and model that I love. Thanks for all the great info!

Hello Patrick and Patty. You guys have some awesome comments about your rig!! Thank you for sharing them. Lance was definitely a top contender. Well....we finally did it. We ordered an Outdoors RV 22FQS. It is slightly bigger than your rig, at 26ft long. And, it is probably 2000 lbs heavier empty. But, we had made the decision that we were getting a Ford F350 gasser so that we have some extra towing capacity. The trailer is ordered; will be built in July (assume delivered in August). I hope to have the truck ordered by the end of this week. Safe travels!!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Alan! We are so excited for you and can't wait to see pictures of it.

I just finished watching Chad and Tara on Changing lanes they showed how to unclog and clean your shower drain. Pop over and see if it will help you with yours. God bless. Love your channel 🤗

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Really great video. Good information.. but love the Editing Patrick!.. Really good. Thanks for sharing.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Jerry! Most people don’t notice editing so it is always nice to have a peer comment on it. I think KZreadrs appreciate it more than most.

Use pequa heavy duty drain opener to keep your drains clear. It works great. Home Depot and or Lowes should carry it.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I don’t think the drain is clogged....its just such a small opening that it can’t keep up at times with the amount of water from the shower.

@iglapsu88

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney OK. I guess you need to be careful with these products in an RV some plumbing does not have p-traps and instead use HepvO valves that you really need to be careful with.

I love your Lance travel trailer. My brother in law used to have a Lance on his truck truck canker and it was nice. Small but nice. Only used it to go hunting with. You have a very nice Lance it’s a very great size. Matt showed showed some Lances a while ago but I liked your way better. The layout is better. But I agree with you Patrick abort he towing weight capacity. I agree with you on the dislikes. I like the tower of power too. Thank you for a great video. See you on own the road.

I like your trailer and have thought about getting the same one. While I haven't bought one yet, even if I don't get the same brand, your reviews helped me decide what options I want and what I don't want. I followed your progression of trailers and I have learned a lot from you. Thank you for your honest opinions.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much...I am glad we were able to help.

Patti - I have a tip. I have a heavy star gazer in my Little Guy Max. What I do is put a smallish pillow (12x12 x 2) against the middle of the window and I press my head against the pillow to raise the window (assuming I disconnected all the knobs first). Then I move forward and my head raises the window and I tighten the knobs with 2 free hands. Works great. I will be getting my 1985 soon and will do that with the Lance as well. I also plan to install a 1x8 across the window to serve as a headboard. Have not figured out yet how to attach it but since there is plenty of wood in the wardrobes I think it will work

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great idea!

Nice review. One of the advantages of my toy hauler is the carrying capacity. It does look well built.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

That is definitely an advantage on a toy hauler.

Has it been 6 months already? Hi Truman and Bess! I love your dinette... so roomy with windows. But you really had me at 4 seasons! What a great camper! No RV is perfect but this one is close!!!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how fast time flys! LOL. We are loving it and especially the 4 seasons aspect.

Great video! Love your camper! The storage in that thing...... Wow!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We love it too. So much space for a 23’ trailer.

Once again, great informative video from you all again. I’m still rv-less just waiting for the right rv and right time to buy :)

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

So good to hear from you Mo! Hope you had a very Merry Christmas and a good start to 2021. You will find the right RV in time. We hope to be in Texas the 1st week of June to get warranty work done on the Lance at Princess Craft..

my 2 cents. bought a new lance truck camper in october 2018. two months later, crazy downpour rain, three leaks: bathroom vent, kitchennette vent, bedroom vent. drove the same day to dealer. he fixed it and swore no more leaks. one month later, crazy downpour. the three previous leaks showed up and water running down the wall of the bedroom. drove it to the dealer, didnt ask permission, dumped it on his lot, demanded my 35k back, was told, "this isn't how it works". i said, "bull sh*t". drove to see the ceo in lancaster, california, and two weeks later i had a check. lance rv's and all rv's suck. by the way, getting money back is rare. so don't count on it. i got lucky.

Great content, as always. Travel safe!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for making this. 👍

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thank you for watching!

Love the animals you have...they look very happy an well taken care of....nice job on the video good people....✌✌✌

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video on your Lance. I have a Lance, 2285, bought it new, a July, 2020, model. Submitted to pressure to buy the extra service warranty, for $2,000.00. I live in it full time. I’ve had it for a bit more than one year. Right in the dealership, during our appointment, we came to pick up our brand new trailer, the dealer couldn’t find keys for the multitude of little locks, on doors around the trailer’s outside. So, problem solved with a master key. On the way home, one of the little outside doors opened and would not stay shut. Trailer in tow and back to the dealership, problem solved with silicone spray and a lot of jiggling. Once home, it was time for a function test. The shower nozzle fell out of the wall, into my hands. Yep, the screws that were holding it, just fell out of the wall. My inspection showed the original screws had been clipped off shorter, so they wouldn’t go completely through the wall. They hadn’t seated well. Problem solved with a trip to the hardware store (and a call to dealership service) for the correct size screws. Once parked in my new location, where I live for work. Two weeks at the new location and the awning began this infernal beeping. Yep, every two months the end of the awning must unscrewed and removed and a new battery replaced, so the automatic return will work. I stopped using the awning. All else went well until winter, January. The furnace failed. I did some trouble shooting per the operations booklet, checking the venting and possible bug nests. Nothing apparent, all clear. Still no furnace. Remember the terrible freeze up in February? Yep, no furnace. I bought an electric heater and used the stove top. Then the little red light panel, that indicates the tank levels, stopped working, just no lights. Then the oven refused to light. In March, the vents, one in the kitchen, one over the bed, started leaking rain like a sieve. I put tarps over the roof. The cabinets under the bathroom sink developed a serious mold problem, solved by keeping the door open all the time. We’re at the one year mark and the toilet won’t hold water. The faux leather on the den chairs is disintegrating, top layer peeling off the seat and armrests. Sigh…. I’m not rich. I’m living full time in this tiny RV for work. So, taking it to the Lance dealership service department and leaving it for a time is not a good option. I’m up for suggestions. Texas

@shebamut

2 жыл бұрын

papa jeff...I heard since the pandemic that r.v.'s manufactures are getting paid by the number of trailers they pump out..so quality workmanship is the shits.. they are all like yours nowadays...piti.

@danman5857

2 жыл бұрын

look at Outdoor RV and see if they suit you better?

Excellent points both pro and con! As you know, we have close to the same trailer as your from Grand Design. The Imagine XLS 17MKE and except the slide contains a recliner/sofa it’s about the same size and weight. Once I get it out of storage I’m going to do the same type of video after 18 months of ownership. It’s interesting to see that a few things that concern you guys we have the same issues with ours. Really liked the truth about the rig. 👍 Take care, Bill in Utah

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I think I mentioned to you before Bill that we almost bought the 17MKE but not being able to put the bed down with the slide in was the dealer breaker for us. We really liked that layout especially with the theater seating plus Grand Design is known for outstanding customer service.

Great video and information y'all. I am really liking Lance. This is good information for us to know as well look around.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We are still loving our Lance! Its a really well built trailer compared to so many others on the market today.

Hey y'all 🙂 I'm brand new to your channel and just subscribed. I love your camper and the info you share about your likes and dislikes. I don't own one yet but I'm hoping that some day I will. Y'all are so nice and I just really enjoyed seeing your video , plus you're clearly dog lovers and that makes you awesome in my book. Hey Patrick , I have no idea what you do for a living but you have the most perfect radio voice that I've heard in a very long time! You've got that Casey Kasem vibe going on and it's just fun to listen to you talk! Pat you sound great also , just had to tell your hubby where my thoughts were as soon as I heard him start talking. I look forward to seeing your videos. God bless

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Amy and welcome to our channel. I (Patrick) teach business at a Community College and Patty teaches 6th grade English.

Love my 1985. I wouldnt change anything. However i have the fixed stargazer and the full pull out tray without the generator storage box. Big plus is the 3 propane tanks....how smooth and ez these lance rigs tow.... and the black and brown interior in my 1985 is awesome. Great little trailer.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

You are right about towing....it tows so well for us too.

Awesome and informative video!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Cindy!

Patrick, we’ve got a lower CCC as well. It would help a lot to hear strategies you’ve used to keep your cargo weight down and still take the things you need. Thanks, Danny

Thanks for the review. I'm a new subscriber. I'm a widower so, I don't need a big RV. I have a 16' BH and had been looking at Lance or Winnebago for my next year's upgrade. I'd noticed the limited cargo capacity and your video solidified that concern.I had heard Lance had been purchased by another company and that people were concerned about continued craftsmanship from the company.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome Paul! Yes...Lance was purchased by REV a few years ago. REV does own some higher end Motorhome companies like Fleetwood, Monaco, Holiday Rambler to name a few.

We love our 2020 Lance 2285. We have some of the same love hates. We also love the big dinette and ours sits opposite two comfy rocking easy chairs, making a nice circular conversation area. The dinette is a really cozy place to watch tv when it’s made into a bed with a mattress topper added. The stargazer window is nice but I also miss a headboard. I’m trying to design a short pillow/ soft headboard thingy to solve that situation.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I told Patty I was going to work on figuring out something for a makeshift headboard. I had not thought about a pillow that goes across the entire back...thanks for giving me that idea.

Thanks for that information! I was really contemplating that trailer to purchase when I retire in 4 years. Basically because its a four seasons trailer. So I'll be looking forward to seeing if they change those negatives in the future. Still a great trailer!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We still feel it is a very well built trailer. We have had ours 9 months and love it as much as we did the day we bought it.

I drilled thru the bottom of the over the sink cabinet and use a heavy duty 3 foot extension cord from the microwave outlet (which we don't have up there) down to the counter top. We plug the coffeepot in that if we have it indoors. We have a 1995.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a great modification.

Still like our Tab 320 CS S . Always love your reviews. Peace.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

NuCamp builds such great trailers and are such wonderful people. We are still hoping they build a trailer with a walk around bed in the 23-25’ range in the future.

Nice video. My first RV was a 2002 one owner Lance 1172 Truck Camper on a 2002 one owner Chevy 3500 Duramax. We owned the Truck Camper for 5 years.. Love the Lance brand but unfortunately my wife and I out grew it. We would have purchased another Lance but the truck campers evolved to be very heavy and the tow trailers while beautiful were out of our price range. I am disappointed to hear the front star gazer or sky view is not what you expected. Keep up the nice work. SM

Funny about the plug in the kitchen. I said the same thing with my truck camper. As others have said I exchanged the micro cord for a double and dropped an extension cord thru a hole at the back. Problem solved.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Yes....that quick fix with the microwave plug seems like the easiest solution.

Good points!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Joyce

@joycemoses2411

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney The Lance is a perfect fit for you!!!

Patrick, thanks for info on generator. I have 2300 watt Ryobi which will probably fit but I may choose to keep ii in the truck now based on your info and use that space for other lighter stuff. I like the space though!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

It really is a nice space and a great idea.

great review!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

We saw your video thought your travel is cute but we’re going to get the bigger trailer 2465 with king size bed don’t like the dark brown they have cream color thank you sold us on this brand happy camper!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

The king size bed would be awesome!

As of the shower drain slow have your dealer check the vent of your black and gray tank vent to make sure it’s working properly or plugged

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that tip!

I'm not a fan of the door next to the bed. I like the model 1995 better which moves the door to the aft end of the trailer.

Thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing... I have to say in my researching, I've found that every travel trailer has to many drawbacks or things that just don't make sense... like outlets in bad locations... the list is ridiculous

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

No trailer is perfect for sure.

Great info!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

A suggestion from another 1985 owner: trade in your generator for a DC-DC charger and inverter (unless you routinely use your gen to run the AC). We did that a year ago, and don't miss it a bit!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We have been looking at a Goal Zero 1500x. We rarely use the generator and its only to run the AC. I think we used it 2 or 3 times last summer and for less than an hour each time.

@rvpilgrims

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney , could be a good choice. Since we're full-time, we went the Lithium/2500 watt inverter-charger/DC-DC charger route. We get a 40 amp feed off our truck alternator.

There is a LOT to love about the Lance 1985. I would want most of the options and there goes the towing weight! I heard about the cargo carrying capacity. I would not be overloading stuff. I have a Honda 2200, so that works. My question is what are basic truck choices to safely haul this camper? Thanks ~ Diane

read the information again the cargo capacity assumes fresh tank is full so 815 with full tanks

@TravelswithDelaney

Жыл бұрын

That is true but we have to take certain items like cookware, dishes, clothes, food, towels, bedding, etc and all of that reduces us significantly to the point that we can’t run a full water tank. And adding solar panels, inverter, etc also adds weight.

Thanks you two. I've learned there's no perfect trailer, but as much as I love Lance trailers, there's plenty of deal breakers involved. Cargo carrying capacity, and lack of kitchen space ( including drawers in the kitchen / not plastic pulls ), and ground clearance are big issue for the way we camp. We ended up purchasing a Nash by Northwoods instead. Not the most up to date trailer decor wise, but an amazing option if storage, ground clearance, and cargo carrying capacity

@chrisruef3201

3 жыл бұрын

Are important to you

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the Nash! We love the Lance and with the lift kit we’ve got the ground clearance we need. Our biggest complaint is the CCC. We have unused storage space because we’d be overweight if we loaded any more and that we hate.

@chrisruef3201

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney Your Bathrom storage is amazing though, and the interior really is timeless. The lift kit helps, especially here in California. Some of our best camping spots ( incredible scenery) are not for low riding rigs, and the the roads are narrow, and rocky. Definitely worth the hassle though

We have a 2021 2375 that we just got this past August. Agree with you on a "tower of power " in the kitchen area - that's a project I'm going to do this year. And, the shower, not sure if you've tried or not but we unscrew and take that little plastic plug out and it drains just fine for us. Some other RV'ers told us about a ShowerShroom to put in there if you're concerned with hair possibly clogging up things. Lastly on the awning, I understand there is some range of adjustment in "pitch" that can lift it above the door - I've not yet tried, but might soon as ours also interferes with the doors. That said, we're loving our Lance!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Yes...if we leave the plug/strainer out, it seems to drain fine. It the strainer that seems to be the issue.

I thought about that Tower of Power before you said it. Install one yourself and have a drawer made to replace the receptacle; a decent size drawer of course.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We have definitely considered that as a modification.

You haul a generator in the storage compartment you added 47 pounds with an EU 2200i to (as you pointed out) an already low cargo carrying capacity.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! That's why we are carrying our generator in the truck bed. I don't want to add any more weight to the tongue.

We have a 2021 Lance 2375 and our Star Gazing window is different, but I also had leaning against it at night when reading in bed. I found that I have to put my pillows in the corner and lean back that way instead.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We do the same thing with ours Liza.....pillows off to the sides. It works ok.

It's not going to blow-up if you overload it by a few hundred pounds. You could buy upgraded tires if you need to or just know when you're overloaded and drive it slower/easier over rough terrain.

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct however if you are to have an accident, not only could your insurance refuse to cover you if they find out you were overloaded, but you could also be cited by the police.

@fahey6797

2 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney , It would have to be some serious accident for them to go to that extreme, an accident where you were at fault that involved fatalities where the grossly overloaded vehicle condition directly contributed to the occurrence. For an accident where you clip a pole in a turn or someone runs into you, they're not going to put your rig on a scale and say: "Ah-Ha, you're 300 pounds over the limit buddy, no cheese for you" A homeowner needs to get a permit from the city to say run an additional circuit to power a portable AC unit in a bedroom. If you don't, and then a year later your kitchen toaster shorts out and your house gets burned to the ground, the insurance company isn't going to deny your claim on account of the illegally installed extra circuit that had nothing to do with the fire. A little common sense needs to be employed here.

I just came in to see your puppies. 😁

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that! LOL

Install a power tower yourself? It took me exactly one search to find the right model.

Great video! I've watched several of your videos and really like all the info you provide! I'm a newbie and haven't even gone on the road yet! I'm trying to get everything I need before I head out on my first trip. Can I ask if the slide out tray in your cargo came with the camper or do you install in? My cargo area goes the entire width of my camper so getting items in and out will be a challenge if I don't have something on a slide tray. Thank you!!!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rachel! Sorry its taken me so long to respond. Patty and I have been fighting COVID the past 2 weeks. The slide out tray is an option from Lance that came on our trailer. We really love it as it makes getting things out of that area so much easier to get to. I am sure you could get one installed after market.

@rachelhilton3727

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney So sorry you got Covid! Hope you are feeling better. Thanks for getting back to me! :)

We started with a Lance truck camper 20 years ago. We now have a 2017 2385. Unfortunately, the quality has decreased in the intervening years. There were numerous issues that Lance didn’t take care of under warranty. The main one was a leaking skylight in the sitting area. We wish we still had the original truck camper. Re carrying capacity. I think the trailer weight includes full water and propane tanks. So, you may have the full 800 pounds. The manuals are in the trailer at the storage lot it I’d look it up. We tow the 2385 with equalizer bars, too. It has a rear kitchen which throws the towing off at highway speeds. The wheels on the trailer are set pretty far back, too because of the rear kitchen. I tow with a quad long bed. So, the turning radius is abysmal. Lance is now under the Thor Industries umbrella. Uncertain how it will affect quality.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Lance actually is now owned by REV Group which is the organization that also owns Fleetwood, Holiday Rambler, etc. Sadly it seems most of the quality smaller RV manufacturers get bought out and the quality and customer service suffers. There are still a few niche manufacturers like NuCamp left out there.

I have a 2021 1995 and I have 1400# of cargo carrying capacity. I saw your tongue weight video and I really question the accuracy of the scale you used. The tongue weight you were getting was approaching 20% of the trailer weight which is unheard of in a travel trailer. The 1985 is a bit front heavy but the figures you are getting are a little extreme. I do believe that manufacturers should list the actual measured finished tongue weight of the trailer just like they do the overall weight on the sticker. The weights in Lances brochure is misleading and doesn’t account for any of the options on the trailer including AC. who buys a trailer without AC. I like the idea of heated holding tanks but I would like to see a 12 volt heating pad as well. I don’t use my furnace when I’m plugged into shore power to save propane. I use a space heater. The 12 volt tank pad would also be nice going down the road. It would also be nice if the AC unit had a heat pump or if an electric heating element would be included on the furnace to save propane while on shore power. I like the MCD roller shades as well but they should be included on this trailer. It is a premium price travel trailer! Overall Lance uses some of the best materials and has very good build quality. Using Azdel on the inside and outside walls is a big plus! The only other manufacturer that does that is Nexus motor homes and only on their high end models. Lance trailers for their size are spacious and have a high end feeling to them. The features and storage are adequate but improvements can be made. This however comes at a price. I live full time in my Lance and have the space and storage I need and I’m very comfortable in this trailer.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We actually went to the CAT scale to verify the tongue weight and it was correct. We have also talked to a couple of other 1985 owners who have said the same thing about theirs. Apparently some people intentionally choose the 1995 because it has a lighter tongue weight than the 1985.

You bought the wrong RV, ours have a 43,000# gross weight, with a empty weight ( I weighted it) 27,300#, plus a 10,000# tow package, Our generator is built in, Onan 7.5 kw. We have used our coach near 20 years, never ones have we had a cabinet hardware fail. we carry 100 gallons of water, 75 gallons grey, and 75 gallons of black. the tanks are on heated mats, and have heater vents in all storage.36 inches tall, 96 inches long and 7 foot wide. the hot water tank is a 3 way, heated by engine, propane, and electrical. Newmar is the way to go.

Capacity is going to be a problem on my 2075. When I get it. And the galley is a joke. Hopefully I love the rest of the trailer enough to offset those negatives. If I ever get it. Lol. Been on order since the day after Thanksgiving. Still no online date.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I have heard that all of the RV manufacturers are way behind on production. We looked at the 2075. It’s a gorgeous trailer and love that outside kitchen option on it.

Hi Patric love and thanks for your channel! Quick question, you mention the trailer capacity is about 800lbs. But just checked, Lancer website’s spec says “Cargo Carrying Capacity 1955 Lbs” for this model.

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

The newer model has a bit more but understand that’s a base weight. When you start adding options, that number decreases. Ours from the factory weighed over 4900# even though the brochure said 4200#. The 2020 model only had a GVWR of 5700# where the newer ones are now at 6200#

Can you tell me the length and width of the steps leading into the van.

Holy moly...is that Velma from Scooby Doo??

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

I enjoy TWD videos and am very much similar in thinking and this one is perfect and most informative.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great video. But is nobody going to say how much the Mrs looks like Velma from Scooby Doo??

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@goodbonezz1289

2 жыл бұрын

😃

At present we are ordering the 2022 Lance 2375. I've wondered how the bedroom window would interfere with sleeping. I've considered making a long pillow to use as a "headboard". Have you watched TV from your bed? If so what do you use to brace yourself while sitting up?

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

We have not ever set up in bed to watch TV and I think it would be difficult with the way the wall comes up. We have been experimenting with pillows ourselves to protect the shade and it seems to be working.

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Great informative video! I plan to retire after the 2021-22 school year and hope to make 2 or 3 RV trips each year, each trip approximately 2-2.5 months. We want to be able to go coast to coast and everywhere in between. If we go with a towable, the Lance is for sure a top contender. I watch a lot of RV videos and do a lot of other research, so I am a bit concern/hesitate to go with a towable based on the quality of construction of many towable's. I know Lance is one of the best built. Can you please share your thoughts concerning quality of build and the road beating your RV takes traveling around the many states you have? My tow rig is a 2019 Ford F-150 with the twin turbo 3.5L engine. Thank you in advance for any information/suggestions you might provide.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the upcoming retirement John! We are coming up on 1 year in the Lance and so far, it seems to be holding up very well especially compared to other trailers we have owned. Yes....we have had some issues but honestly they all have issues including high dollar motor homes. We know people who had to take their brand new Tiffin back to the factory for repairs in the first year. We were out about 6 weeks with it last summer plus all the other shorter trips we take throughout the school year. We will be out about 8 weeks in it this summer.

I guess I'm a believer in the "KISS" method of living (keep it simple, stupid) so I'm adverse to slide outs and I watched the agonizing time you went through with your slide. When I finally buy my trailer I will be solo and don't plan on entertaining. SO.. would you buy another trailer with a slide out?

@CallMeVie

3 жыл бұрын

We have the no slide Lance 1475 With 2x chairs. It has the best ratios of: 1-compact to 2-storage to 3-comforts to 4-functions to 5- ease of towability to 6- windows/views. Our #1 requirement, no slides! No regrets here, NONE! Stay safe Vie 🇨🇦

@kens805

3 жыл бұрын

@@CallMeVie THX! The Lance line of RVs looks good (yet very pricy!).

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We would still buy an RV with a slideout. Honestly ours was an install error at the factory so it could happen to anyone. We were just the unfortunately recipients of a worker error which we realize can happen. We love the extra space it gives us. I would say though if I was solo than I don’t think a slideout is needed. There are great trailer options like the NuCamp T@B 400 that are great without a slideout.

@CallMeVie

3 жыл бұрын

@@kens805 Hey Ken! You do get what you pay for. Lance is a great manufacturer, they just need to move more into 2021 with the majority of their customers needs. We got ours for their non off-gasing materials (allergies) and their 4 season. We are in Canada and our camping season see 3 seasons 2 if which are still cold and damp! We have a teardrop but this is more for our boondocking adventures! Good luck on your search! I hope you get what you are looking for. The market is vast and the choices are plenty just make your list of needs vs wants! Now if Lance could only make an rv disability accessible!?🤔 Stay safe😊 Vie 🇨🇦

I often wonder if the people designing RVs ever actually use RVs. Simple things like the plug you refer to or the direction the door opens really makes me wonder. I would have to agree with Patty. A shower that causes me to stand in water would drive me insane. Just a question, can you turn off the automatic awning retraction? It is a great idea, but if it can catch on your door and possibly cause damage to the awning, is it really worth it? Thanks for sharing! Steve

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. If the CEO's of these company's were actually out camping on a regular basis, my guess is you would see many changes in their trailers. My gut says is most of them don't use their own RV's at all or very little to really know what its like.

Really appreciated your comments. Where do you store you HF 3500 Predator? I wonder if the 2021 takes care of any of the issues you did not like.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We carried the Predator in the truck bed last summer which worked fine.

I have a 1995 model and I love it except I wish my shower was bigger and I would love to have your shower curtain! It's hard to see in the video but it looks like you have the drain plug in the shower in your short video of the water pooling up. If so, I remove that when I'm showering.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We were also looking at the 1995. Patty liked that model better with the door in the back and that large floor to ceiling closet. I preferred the 1985 because of the bathroom. We were willing to go with either but we could only find a 1985 at the time we purchased. Both are very nice.

May I suggest not relying on the cameras microphone. Makes a big difference. Great review!

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great info and channel! Considering a Lance 1475 or T@B 400 for full time living (single) no winter. You definitely got the experience, any thoughts? -thx

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

They are both well built trailers. The Lance may give you a bit more space especially in the bed area. The cuteness factor definitely goes to NuCamp with the 400.

We owned a 2018 1995 model, but ended on selling it and going back to a class c. Lance makes good quality TT but it comes with a big price tag. Why we sold it? The bathroom was a bit too small and I hated the shower curtain on tracks. Plus the shower was a bit small. What I missed the most was a loveseat or theater seat. I hope you enjoy your Lance TT.

@RelativelyRichLife

3 жыл бұрын

I also dislike the shower curtain track because it leaks. It just seems to be an unusual design.

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting on the shower curtain. We actually love that on ours. We think it’s so much better than the cloth shower curtains that so many RV’s come with. Maybe just a preference.

I have to agree with Patrick when it comes to his acknowledgment of v-e-r-y limited cargo capacity of a little less than 400#. I didn't realize your RV is rated for 4-season. That is a BIG plus in my mind. With 6 months usage/mileage how are axle & tires working out?

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We LOVE the 4 seasons aspect Bill! Going winter camping again next weekend which is so nice. So far the axles and tires are working out good. I don’t know if I told you but it came with Goodyear Endurance tires which is great. I will probably have Princess Craft do maintenance on the axles when we are there for warranty work in June.

@azclaimjumper

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney Do you have any plans to come out West this year. The Grand Tetons are almost as nice from the Idaho side.

Could the slow drain be because of thr trap design they used? I have at rap in my Max which is not conventional and gets clogged easily. It is not a S trap but a straight pipe with some sort of baffle inside. I do use a short broom in my Max to push water towards the drain when not level and that speeds us the draining but I do not have a problem with the speed of the drain in my max

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

I think that is part of the issue in our Lance. Someone else reached out and said that Lance uses different type of trap.

I have looked at Lance. Very well made. So what I do not like on the 1985 is the door near the bed. The 1995 is in the rear near the bathroom. What is the reasoning for a door near the bed? What are your thoughts?

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We looked at both the 1985 and 1995 and were fine with either. It came down to the 1985 was what was in stock at the time. I personally prefer the 1985 because the bathroom is larger because it is the whole back of the trailer. We don't mind having the door in the bedroom as we make the bed into the couch during the day. Both floor plans are very nice.

We are considering Lance to do winter camping as well. Do you winterize between trips?

@TravelswithDelaney

Жыл бұрын

I usually only winterize when its going to be well below freezing for several nights and we are not planing to go out anytime soon.

So having a front window/windshield like you do and I also have , are you concerned about stone damage , cracks ? I'm considering a xpel film or something similar . Even a nano coating increases the glass 80% they claim . Lots of trailers with front glass have breakage issues , a club I don't want to join .

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Our front window is one of the euro style plastic windows that’s supposed to be what’s used in aircraft. We had the same thing on our T@B 400 and never had an issue. They do however scratch easy.

@kenj.8897

3 жыл бұрын

@@TravelswithDelaney Probably a lexan type of material then .

I'd be concerned about what looks like a very flimsy protruding door handle. Isn't that a danger when passing vehicles/pedestrians? Maybe it's retractable?

Can you upgrade the axles to increase cargo cap.?

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

Thats actually a good question that I do not know the answer to.

@harveyhenry3598

3 жыл бұрын

Only if you were able to verify from the manufacturer that the frame and hitch were engineered to be capable of the extra weight.

What do you pull this with gvw of truck

@TravelswithDelaney

3 жыл бұрын

We have a 2017 Toyota Tundra rated for 15,000# total weight.

What do you pull this with

@TravelswithDelaney

2 жыл бұрын

2017 Toyota Tundra