What Was The Reaction To King Viserys' Marrying Alicent 😨

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  • @maize3201
    @maize3201Ай бұрын

    Name a better duo then Daemon and beating up messengers who give him news he doesn’t like.

  • @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    @AniSwiftTVRecaps

    Ай бұрын

    Daemon and his wife saying things he doesn't like

  • @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410

    @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410

    Ай бұрын

    Daemon and his ego!

  • @nahlataha1744

    @nahlataha1744

    Ай бұрын

    @@AniSwiftTVRecapseven better

  • @ingainloggningsnamn

    @ingainloggningsnamn

    Ай бұрын

    King Leonidas Spartan kicking messengers is probably a good contender.

  • @Nenernener123

    @Nenernener123

    Ай бұрын

    Daemon saw what Viserys missed! Proving he was the better option for hand all along!

  • @noyaltiby-kx1do
    @noyaltiby-kx1doАй бұрын

    Sea snake was pissed that viseryrs was marrying an 18 year old girl than his 12 year old daughter ☠️☠️

  • @terminallove3531

    @terminallove3531

    Ай бұрын

    He wanted his blood on the throne.

  • @paulraines9635

    @paulraines9635

    Ай бұрын

    Her mother told her she wouldn't have to bed him until she was fourteen.

  • @KaitlynBurtonISaGOD

    @KaitlynBurtonISaGOD

    Ай бұрын

    That's crazy ​@@paulraines9635

  • @chocolatebaby889

    @chocolatebaby889

    Ай бұрын

    Wow 14 years old so in 2 years how amazing of the parents at least Otto was using the body of his adult daughter​@@paulraines9635

  • @BruceWayne-bg5ej

    @BruceWayne-bg5ej

    Ай бұрын

    OMG it’s created on Middle Ages. IT WAS OKAY IN THIS TIME. Actually, it was okay the whole human history, except last 150 years. Stop making excesses of things like that. If some part of the society has different vision of the world, it doesn’t mean that they are wrong and you’re right. The world is more complicated and more importantly, this particular event is NOT even REAL

  • @college54114
    @college54114Ай бұрын

    The “Old King” Mushroom reports Alicent as having an affair with is King Jaehaerys, not King Viserys. Alicent read books and sung songs to Jaehaerys on his deathbed and Mushroom claimed she also did sexual favors for him. I think it’s just Mushroom being salacious and scandalous

  • @UnaMandagora

    @UnaMandagora

    28 күн бұрын

    I have a feeling that his name Mushroom, commes from his drug of choice. His chronicles are unhinged

  • @spicypineapple2778

    @spicypineapple2778

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Dude always gets stuff wrong

  • @jonbooker6359
    @jonbooker6359Ай бұрын

    The old king mushroom is referring to is Jaeherys.

  • @indiadecoseytillman

    @indiadecoseytillman

    Ай бұрын

    I caught that too, she read for both.

  • @MegaHust

    @MegaHust

    Ай бұрын

    Mushroom meant both, King Jahaerys and Viserys. He also wrote that Alicent and Daemon were together once and that’s another reason why Otto despised Daemon.

  • @tyl_794

    @tyl_794

    12 күн бұрын

    why it's always mushroom with this stupid nonsense stories

  • @jdsosa3895
    @jdsosa3895Ай бұрын

    This is the content we like, not the gossip about the actors

  • @MarinaSertaMiranda
    @MarinaSertaMirandaАй бұрын

    But the "Old king" in question is not vyseris, but jaehaerys

  • @John14710
    @John14710Ай бұрын

    Daemon does tend to behead the messenger 😂

  • @almami1599

    @almami1599

    Ай бұрын

    Which is really dishonorable

  • @John14710

    @John14710

    Ай бұрын

    @@almami1599 ye alright mate

  • @ncdtrollski6179

    @ncdtrollski6179

    9 күн бұрын

    @@John14710it kinda is

  • @mikef2811
    @mikef2811Ай бұрын

    Sorry, but the TV show makes the men much, much older than what their real age. King Visery was older but he was not THAT old like in the TV show portrays..

  • @Nenernener123

    @Nenernener123

    Ай бұрын

    To be fair, the “old king” being read to & referenced in this video was King Jaehaerys.

  • @hippiebippie8870

    @hippiebippie8870

    Ай бұрын

    She supposedly slept with both King Jaehaerys and Visaerys

  • @tuulituulimahan4567

    @tuulituulimahan4567

    Ай бұрын

    That, and I also suppose he looks that old because he is very ill. But the show tends to picture minors much older, as long as they are involved in some relationships 🙄 If they are overlooked like the little velaryon girl, they mostly can keep they book age ))

  • @lowkeymlb

    @lowkeymlb

    17 күн бұрын

    Still sick lol

  • @waywardwarrior2817
    @waywardwarrior2817Ай бұрын

    the hightowers were a vassal house though and this was seen as them reaching above their station especially after otto a second son became hand of the king

  • @noahkanku8139

    @noahkanku8139

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah no. The Hightowers are counted as one of the Great Houses even though they are Vassals to House Tyrell. They can field a large army all on their own and are one of the wealthiest houses. By your logic even the Velaryons would be reaching above themselves. Marriage politics aren't as rigid as only a Lord Paramount or Warden's daughter is allowed to marry into the Royal family. There already was a Hightower Queen as well as a Harroway Queen, a Westerling Queen and even a Costayne Queen, the daughter of a Hightower Vassal but that was more because of her fertility. Also she is still the niece of the Lord of Oldtown she isn't worthless on the marriage market. Yes the match was ambitious but not out of this world. What would truly be out of station would be a Landed Knight's daughter marrying the King or let's say some irrelevant petty Lord with three sheep. But Alicent was the Niece of the Lord of Oldtown, her father was the most senior adviser. Her family had close ties to the Lords of the Arbor, one of the largest fleets in the realm and she had multiple cousins who were part of the Most Devout if I remember correctly which means one of them could potentially be the next High Sepron. The fact that she is the Lord of Oldtown's niece instead of daughter is neither here nor there in the relevance of her station

  • @Aaron_Guest

    @Aaron_Guest

    Ай бұрын

    Nothing suggests this in the book at all.

  • @noahkanku8139

    @noahkanku8139

    Ай бұрын

    @Aaron_Guest yes it does lol what??

  • @noahkanku8139

    @noahkanku8139

    Ай бұрын

    @@Aaron_Guest everything I said is pure book info

  • @Aaron_Guest

    @Aaron_Guest

    Ай бұрын

    @noahkanku8139 I wasn't talking to you bro.

  • @jadeayla7548
    @jadeayla7548Ай бұрын

    "The Old King" refers to King Jaehaerys, not Viserys.

  • @ameliaflynnhayes
    @ameliaflynnhayesАй бұрын

    I don’t think she laid with him until after they were married

  • @muktagogoi8877

    @muktagogoi8877

    Күн бұрын

    Old king was referred to Jaeherys

  • @moniquesmith3299
    @moniquesmith3299Ай бұрын

    Mushroom was a menace.

  • @deityjc
    @deityjcАй бұрын

    When Mushroom was talking about the 'Old King' he was talking about Jaehaerys, not Viserys.

  • @amandae8437
    @amandae8437Ай бұрын

    Poor messenger boys. Always punished for 💩 that had nothing to do with them

  • @markhenzel4637
    @markhenzel4637Ай бұрын

    Wasn't in the books, Alicent is older?

  • @kiterkun1606

    @kiterkun1606

    Ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @ianfernandez7028

    @ianfernandez7028

    Ай бұрын

    She was but not that much older than Rhaenyra, between 5 or 6 years older. So the show wasn't that far off.

  • @ekpemirochiemeziem6298

    @ekpemirochiemeziem6298

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ianfernandez7028she was 9 years older

  • @Wordlifematt

    @Wordlifematt

    Ай бұрын

    Alicent married Viseys around 18 years old in the books A big difference when comparing a child to an adult.

  • @movieloverfan18

    @movieloverfan18

    Ай бұрын

    Alicent was 18 years old when she married, just as shown in the show. However what the show changed from the book was Rhaenyra's age, in the books she was 9 years younger than Alicent so she would have been 9 when her father remarried.

  • @zeynepkolcu9749
    @zeynepkolcu9749Ай бұрын

    Mushroom and his disgusting fanfics

  • @movieloverfan18

    @movieloverfan18

    Ай бұрын

    The testimony of Mushroom was a salacious book and no one knows if anything in it was true. I think it is a homage to the Secret History of Procopius who was a court historian in the Byzantine Empire and left a scandalous history of the Emperor Justinian and Emperess Theodora

  • @user-kx8pd4fr4g
    @user-kx8pd4fr4gАй бұрын

    Black fans: If mushroom said something nasty about green characters, it is true.

  • @arandomguy4376

    @arandomguy4376

    Ай бұрын

    Black fans are cuks and seemps

  • @aileenpi73
    @aileenpi73Ай бұрын

    Marrying Alicent was a mistake but it is easier to get mad at Rhaenyra because she had sex outside of marriage, even though so was her gay husband. 🙄🙄

  • @nicksmithnutmilk

    @nicksmithnutmilk

    Ай бұрын

    Men can have s*x outside marrige since they can't get pregnant . That's why Rhaenyra said that " if I was born a man , I could father a dozen bastards , bed whoever I wanted and no one would blink an eye " and Viserys responded " you're right , but you were born a woman " . So Laenor being g*y and " cheating " on her are not excuses for mothering bastards

  • @rohits7364

    @rohits7364

    13 күн бұрын

    Allicent was very hypocrite about Targaryens marrying there siblings or uncles like she complained about Rhaenyra and Daemon, but had no issue when her own children married each other.

  • @JonathanVarela-or3yb
    @JonathanVarela-or3yb23 күн бұрын

    Have you seen Alicent? Who could say no

  • @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051
    @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051Ай бұрын

    Theres a shitload of treachery in that family... jus sayin 🤷‍♂️

  • @Ktakahashi18
    @Ktakahashi18Ай бұрын

    So the dude was mad the the old King didnt marry...his 12 year old...darn that sucks 😐🤨

  • @nicksmithnutmilk

    @nicksmithnutmilk

    Ай бұрын

    Viserys is like 28 in the 1st-2nd episode . The Old King is Jaehaerys

  • @ncdtrollski6179

    @ncdtrollski6179

    9 күн бұрын

    @@nicksmithnutmilkI’m pretty sure he’s older in the show

  • @nicksmithnutmilk

    @nicksmithnutmilk

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ncdtrollski6179 he's most likely not , actually . Daemon is confirmed to be 47 in episode 10 and he's only 4 years younger then Vizzy . They just choose an actor too old to play him , in the first episodes atleast . Don't get me wrong , I love Paddy

  • @charmedlilsis1
    @charmedlilsis1Ай бұрын

    Viserys was the biggest chooch ever.

  • @shubhamdebnath9752

    @shubhamdebnath9752

    Ай бұрын

    When this happened alicent is 18 and viserys is 35 something... now it makes sense😅

  • @evok3226

    @evok3226

    Ай бұрын

    @@shubhamdebnath9752 no viserys was 28

  • @shubhamdebnath9752

    @shubhamdebnath9752

    Ай бұрын

    @@evok3226 ohh

  • @ncdtrollski6179

    @ncdtrollski6179

    9 күн бұрын

    @@evok322629

  • @LotsofLisa
    @LotsofLisaАй бұрын

    Do the books ever say what happened to Prince Lenore after he snuck off? wouldn’t his dragon have followed him? Honestly I think he had a good thing going for those times and house station. Their marriage was mutually transactional for appearances only and they both agreed to it.

  • @archmaester6594

    @archmaester6594

    Ай бұрын

    Laenor died in the book

  • @islasullivan3463

    @islasullivan3463

    Ай бұрын

    The books are basically the historical accounts by various second hand sources, long after anyone involved had passed. This includes rumors, speculations, and a lot of bias. If what happened in the show also happened in the books than Laenors death being faked was never discovered.

  • @Sugarshay444
    @Sugarshay444Ай бұрын

    I really wished that Rhaenerys and Laenor would've been able to have child together. That true Velaryon blood👏🏻😢

  • @movieloverfan18

    @movieloverfan18

    Ай бұрын

    The book Fire and Blood leaves the issue of her children's parentage in question. They did have brown hair, and there were many rumors that they were bastards. But Laenor in the book Fire and Blood was not mixed race and he had Baratheon blood in his heritage, which as everyone watching Game of Thrones remembers was supposed to give preeminence to dark hair. So it was a rumor spread widely by the Hightowers that may have been true in the books, but was made a fact in the show.

  • @TemariNaraannaschatz

    @TemariNaraannaschatz

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@movieloverfan18Pretty much no one reading the book thinks they are Laenors though and for good reason: -Laenor was only with men -all children only looking like Harwin Strong, not just hair and eyes, but facial features -the Baratheons having black hair and blue eyes, while Jace, Luke and Joffrey having brown hair and brown eyes -Rhaenyra living in Kings Landing, while Laenor mostly living on Driftmark during their marriage

  • @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410
    @tonyjunior-thefirstgentlem410Ай бұрын

    I know for a fact that in real life and fiction that if an old fuddyduddy marries a young filly this is not one bit surprising.

  • @NekoMarietess
    @NekoMarietessКүн бұрын

    Viserys brought the Hightowers upon the Targaryens. Like it or not, his choice indirectly and directly allowed the later war to happen.

  • @brentdaelman4153
    @brentdaelman415318 күн бұрын

    i think its fascenating we as a society are so invested in writing and watching stories about, pedophelia, rape, and incest

  • @aahnaroy
    @aahnaroy2 күн бұрын

    I mean she’s the daughter of a second-born, even if Hand of the King…..

  • @shighaffaar1254
    @shighaffaar125413 күн бұрын

    And if that's the case that she allowed king for service to come to her bed, you gotta remember idle was behind all of that he pushed his daughter to do everything so they could take over the room. Come on now. Like don't be dumb. Some daughters will go by with the parents. Tell him to do cause at the end of the day. They already know as the daughter that they won't get the prize for garlic, so let me listen to my folks. Come on now, and that's this right here, even though it's a fictional story at the end of the day, this is realistic.We go through this everyday.We go through this everyday so it won't take a rocket scientist to figure out at the end of the day.That everybody benefits from this

  • @sarahbell8886
    @sarahbell888611 күн бұрын

    The king caused all of this . And she should have been a better friend

  • @carastone1897
    @carastone189716 күн бұрын

    his daughter was passed over because she had only just barely passed the age of being a damned toddler

  • @beerussama5127
    @beerussama5127Ай бұрын

    It was that gawk gawk 3000

  • @OJ9992
    @OJ9992Ай бұрын

    Why would the middle aged king want a hot 18 year old girl? it just doesn’t add up.

  • @muktagogoi8877

    @muktagogoi8877

    Күн бұрын

    The king was just about 27 when he married the 18 year old. I mean he's not even middle aged. But really whose shocked he didn't marry the girl barely older than his daughter? I mean he did bed aemma when she was probably 11 or 12 when he was 15 or 16.

  • @Nordique777
    @Nordique777Ай бұрын

    The Velaryons and Daemon are the worstttttttttt

  • @shighaffaar1254
    @shighaffaar125413 күн бұрын

    But your daughter was only 89 years. Old though the service was about 3 times her age. So how you gonna fill some type away, if anything you should respect that man that he a sleep with your daughter, you fill me. Ask crazy off of politics and at the end of the day for the removal of the throne, when a throne kills everybody that sits upon it.

  • @SergioMendoza760
    @SergioMendoza760Ай бұрын

    I love how Viserys made the worst possible political move at every possible opportunity lol. And it doesn’t really matter how daemon reacts because he has no political influence, he just has a dragon and can kill thousands of people in a moments notice whenever he wants. It mattered more to keep Corlys around though, he’s just an immensely powerful ally and I feel like house velaryon’s wealth would’ve extended to the main series had he kept them involved with the throne.

  • @Raigan123DA
    @Raigan123DAАй бұрын

    Your pronounciation of “Velaryon” makes me cringe every time. 🤦‍♂️

  • @alexthomas3210
    @alexthomas3210Ай бұрын

    101

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615Ай бұрын

    Least scheming peope from the Reach:

  • @physicallymentallyemotiona6490
    @physicallymentallyemotiona6490Ай бұрын

    Seems as if Deamond had a crack at Allicent because her younger son acted and looked like him 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @Aaron_Guest

    @Aaron_Guest

    Ай бұрын

    Wut???

  • @nicksmithnutmilk

    @nicksmithnutmilk

    Ай бұрын

    Not possible . Daemon was at the Stepstones when Aemond was made and born . Vizzy is the only possibility

  • @robkitchen5344
    @robkitchen5344Ай бұрын

    Not sure why he only took 1....he was the KING afterall

  • @juliancain3872

    @juliancain3872

    Ай бұрын

    That's what I was saying

  • @meinkanal7438

    @meinkanal7438

    Ай бұрын

    the faith of seven probably doesnt allow polygamy

  • @troyanderson881

    @troyanderson881

    Ай бұрын

    @@meinkanal7438 precedent had been set though. One of the previous kings was polygamist and basically told any faith leaders to shut up or else

  • @meinkanal7438

    @meinkanal7438

    Ай бұрын

    @@troyanderson881 okay. that wasnt viserys tho. just because you CAN be a piece of shit, doesnt mean you have to OR that people have to fellate you for not being one

  • @nunyabiznes33

    @nunyabiznes33

    Ай бұрын

    The Faith was willing to tolerate the incest coz of some sort of doctrine that's it's required to maintain the dragonriding ability. They wouldn't turn a blind eye to polygamy tho.

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