As a lifelong archer and bow hunter, as well as a rancher who practically grew up in a saddle, it cannot be overstated how impressive it is to be able to hit a target from horseback. Especially on a galloping horse. I've attempted it several times over the years, and it is seriously difficult. Mounted archery is literally an entirely different skillset separate from both archery and traditional horsemanship. Anyone who fancies himself archer, and a good rider, should give it a try. But prepare to be humbled! It definitely gives you a real true appreciation for how skilled mounted archers really are.

@nobbytang

Жыл бұрын

The Japanese archers are about 30 foot away from the targets …

@matthewwallace5188

Жыл бұрын

why the mongolian won a lot of battles used horse and bow

@krisztianmezei888

Жыл бұрын

Hungarians riots and kept in scared Europe 200 years with this battle style....

@2l84t

Жыл бұрын

Acquired a 40lb horse bow replic. I find the thumb draw harder to adapt to than the left side of bow arrow placement . May go back to an Atlatl.

@orkunyucel3095

Жыл бұрын

Chain mail armors and scale armors were weak against arrows if used alone. For this reason, chain mail armors and scale armors were used in combination with shields. However, keeping shields up for hours was tiring, and some open body parts were less protected against arrows. Armies using these armors were particularly vulnerable to arrow attacks from the flanks and rear. Also, the use of two-handed weapons made it almost impossible to hold a shield. With these weak armors, you wouldn't want to use a two-handed weapon when you're under a shower of arrows. Despite better protection, manipulating a one-handed spear was more difficult than two-handed one. For this reason, such weakly armored infantry preferred the strategy of laying down their shields and raising their longer near them shortly before the enemy cavalry engaged their charge. Another method was piles driven into the ground. However, this second method resulted in fewer maneuvering options. Moreover, dropping shields was a particularly bad solution against mounted archers. The phalanx is almost the only example where very long spears are used with a shield. Soldiers in the phalanx order used the shield by putting their forearms in a cuff. So they could use the long sarissas partially with two hands. However, they used sarissas one-handed in the first line for better protection with shields, especially when there was a threat of enemy archers. Moreover, the maneuverability of the extremely long sarissas was limited due to the shield. This issue was fixed by having 3 line soldiers point their sarissas at the enemy. Thus, the enemy that the first line missed could be speared by the other line. When this organization was disrupted due to terrain conditions or lack of discipline, especially Roman Legionnaires could easily push sarissas aside or up and enter close combat with their large shields, and armies in the phalanx order were losing the war. Since effective armor technology against arrows was not developed in the early period, many armies could not stand against armies consisting mostly of heavy and light horse archers, such as the Huns, Turks and Mongols. Lamellar armors and Laminar armors, which were more common especially in the east, were slightly more resistant to arrows. But it was still far from being a good solution. In the 1300s, after the Mongol invasion, armors containing plate pieces similar to lamellar armor began to come to the fore. This increased the protection of soldiers against enemy archers. During this period, especially mail and plate armors and brigandine armors became popular. Especially mirror armor was found in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia. These armors had some arrow-resistant parts. But also, battleaxes, maces, war hammers and polaxes could be effective against these armors. The expensiveness of full plate armor limited its use outside of elite soldiers. Ironically, in the 1400s, when armor technology was well developed, the Ottoman army began to use firearms widely, and they gained the upper hand against the heavily armored armies in Europe. After the Ottoman Empire, the use of muskets became widespread in other armies. The use of armor parts other than the arrow-resistant plate body armor gradually decreased

50lb pull weight to even up the two bows? An English longbow had a pull weight of 90 to 160lb. which would make the Longbow much more powerful, even when the length is taken into account.

@henrikg1388

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Evening out the draw weight isn't fair. The key point is that British (originally Welsh) practiced their strength to a degree were they could draw that weight, which I don't think the Japanese did. This would give the European longbow a clear edge. If we're talking mounted archery, a composite bow was used, and you should compare them instead. The two cultures are very different. The Japanese are extremely conservative in comparison, and keep traditional archery schools alive for 800 years. But this ritualistic tradition doesn't make their contemporary weapons and skills better. Many buy into that myth.

@harleyme3163

Жыл бұрын

well... the asians had theyre special way to draw theyre bow over they're head.. I doubt they had anything powerfull when style was more important to them then power :-\

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

50lb Yumi has better performance then 50lb Longbow 160lb Yumi has better performance then 160lb Longbow 130lb Yumi has equal performance to 160lb Longbow Why do you people have the thinking capacity of a Child / I'm disappointed by how unintelligent You are

@althesmith

Жыл бұрын

Weeaboo stuff here. Lots of good stuff on the traditional English longbow if you want to look, this ain't it.

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

@@althesmith just because the Yumi is a better performing bow does not mean that the Yew English longbow is bad

The thing is that you have a light toy shooting as the ELB . I understand the idea is uniformity. But you bring up the fact that samurai shot from horseback , which is fine. This brings in the yumi's real method of use.. then however you have to take into account the large number of ELB shooters that were fielded and for goodness sakes shoot a real weight longbow. Somewhere between 100 and 160 lbs seems to have been the range for military bows from England. In other words a few high priced mounted mercenaries vs a company of soldier / citizens hungry for spoils

Comparison is very difficult, the battlefields of East and West were rather different. You are comparing two different styles and situations, the samurai were the Knights but the longbowman were considered to be murdering scum by the Knights they killed. The Japanese still have the traditions alive where we do not know how skilled the English bowmen were. Kevin Hicks is possibly the best we have had and watching him shoot his leathality is astounding. He can hit a head at 70 yard repeatedly and put an arrow though the eyeslit of a Bassinet at 30 yards. Horses for courses really.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

@@rolandrabier5984 everything you just said is wrong.

@johanmetreus1268

Жыл бұрын

@@eagle162 Apart from OP being an obvious fan of Kevin Hicks, your comment is unwarranted.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

@@johanmetreus1268 my comment was to somebody else who deleted his already.

@adders45

Жыл бұрын

@@johanmetreus1268 I am an Archer too, I shoot everyday without fail, my respect for Mr Hicks comes from years of personal practice and being rather useful myself, though self praise is valueless. What I am saying is, is his standard is very high and yes I am a fan. Cheers.

@coleparker

10 ай бұрын

I would say since the Longbow men practiced every Sunday, and they had to do so up to the age of 65, that they would be highly skilled in their accuracy and their muscles developed to such a point that they could pull a heavy draw weight.

"Which was the ultimate bow of the middle ages?" The re-curved composite from the steps! It holds the world record so the argument on the long and samurai bow is kind of silly 😁

@sun_600

Жыл бұрын

But this Bow with kind and silly, better than that stick one 😂😂😂

Except the English long bow was a tool and weapon of the common man. Training each Sunday on the green. The samurai were a select class that produced a limited number of proficient warriors.

@michaeltelson9798

Жыл бұрын

The English kings even hit an exception from the Church to have this archery practice on Sundays.

English longbowmen were HUGE. They had bows with a massive draw weight, which could out-distance other archers and with greater accuracy since they had all trained since childhood. Just like the Mongol bow, the yumi was a cavalry weapon. The English longbow was long distance mass artillery. Let's see the equivalent balanced documentary on the top of the line, highest draw weight longbow's power and construction, compared to the top draw weight yumi known to ever exist.

@tarlison2k1

Жыл бұрын

I think the yumi is better but its is more expensive since its harder to manufacture so not practical for army building

@kraigthorne3549

Жыл бұрын

@@tarlison2k1 If you have a 15th century English Longbowman in full kit and a Samurai in full kit and put them at 100 yards the Samurai would be dead in a few seconds. The reason for this is that a yumi has a draw weight of 30-40 lbs as do most hunting bows, but rabbits and deer do not have armor. The armor of the English Longbowman would stop ever shot from a yumi even at point blank range. An English Longbowman with a 130 lb draw weight bow would slice through the ringed or scale armor of a Samurai like a hot knife through butter.

@tarlison2k1

Жыл бұрын

@@kraigthorne3549 if you make a yumi with the same power of a long bow it will be way more powerful, I was talking about effiency not the people using them

@kraigthorne3549

Жыл бұрын

@@tarlison2k1 I agree that when it came to the English Longbow, it was more the man than the machine.

@tarlison2k1

Жыл бұрын

@@kraigthorne3549 A heavy Yumi with the same pull strength as a war bow might be a more deadly weapon, but the cost to build it would make it highly undesirable as a troop weapon and also impractical.

I wish these documentaries spent less money on community pantomime theatrics and more on actual research, expert commentators, and scientific data and testing.

A 23kg draw on a longbow? So it's not one intended for combat since it's, at best, about half the draw weight on an actual longbow intended for warfare.

Technically, the English longbow is also a composite, but it's a natural composite. They cut the wood so that the heartwood is on just one face, so effectively it's laminate. I found this fascinating as my dad was head of product development for Bear Archery. Many years ago and he and I built a series of bows with either aluminum or magnesium risers. Limbs were either laminated wood with fiberglass backing as well as compression molding solid fiberglass limbs. A few were recurve, mostly compound, although we did do a few recurve compounds just for the heck of it. Anyhow It's utterly fascinating to see just how different the construction techniques can be for weapons doing essentially the same thing. It would be really neat to see a companion piece comparing the Mongol recurve bows -- which were a real technical feat.

@jessepacheco6020

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insight. If your Old Man is still kicking tell him l said thanks for his work! I've used Bear Bows my whole life and they have always sent my arrows straight and true.

@gladeloy3341

Жыл бұрын

goddam Mongolians !

@gladeloy3341

Жыл бұрын

used a 55lb Bear (@ a30" draw. I have a 34" draw) for competition & hunting in my teen through my early 40s. no sights, no counter balances, or any other "cheats". fiberglass & aluminum arrows didn't last long

I'm thinking.....23 kg bows are not that powerful. When I think long bow....I'm thinking 100 Lbs-160 Lbs war bow.

Only 23kg draw weight?! You gotta pump those numbers up! Those are rookie numbers! No but seriously, "war bows" typically require a minimum of 100lbs (what is that, 45kg?) to pull back to full draw regardless of which culture they're from. Next time, getting in touch with Joe Gibbs and having him shoot one of his 160lbs bows! I don't know who the Japanese equivalent of Joe Gibbs would be but I think there are a handful of Chinese and Korean KZreadrs out their I've seen shooting their cultures' equivalent bows

Functionally speaking this is not a realistic comparison of the two weapons effectiveness in battle. First of all the draw weight of a longbow was in excess of 100 pounds many were up to 140 pounds and the typical longbow is about the same length as the one in this video. I own an actual English Longbow. My bow is a bit longer than 6 feet long. Also an arrow used in battle back in the 1400's was a tapered arrow that was much heavier than used in your demonstration. Regardless they are both fine weapons and each a work of art.

@benbim540

Жыл бұрын

a few of the bows on the mary rose were up to 200lbs.

@garycornelisse9228

Жыл бұрын

@@benbim540 I can barely imagine drawing such a bow. I wouldn't want to arm wrestle one of those guys.

@branch42

10 ай бұрын

My 120# horn tipped yew bow tosses a 4oz .5in tapered to a .4in nock oak arrow (stable) to 300 yards, Yumi does what at 60#? S😉tacking the deck a bit there fellas.. Pop History shows do this all the time.

It was all about the training. It took years to really become effective as an English Bowman. That's why there was a decree for all young men to practice once a week.

@nicolasvanhorton5043

Жыл бұрын

The time-consuming and expensive training required to wield the longbow proved to be England's Achilles' heel in the Hundred Years' War, especially after the disastrous English defeat at Patay on June 18, 1429. However, the final nail in the coffin was the development of field artillery, which was used to great effect by the French in sieges and battles at the end of the Hundred Years' War.

@ripping7721

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolasvanhorton5043 Hmm cannons in the 100 year wars were unreliable and most of the time useless. Took over 8 hours ot be able to fire, aiming was nigh impossible. They did not replace the longbow. The reason the English lost at Patay was they were discovered by the french mounted and knights and attacked in their flanks. So please, do not write opinions without facts, as you are wrong on all points made

A bow with a draw weight of 50 pounds is not very much if going to war with. The English long bow was always over a hundred pounds pull. I don't think there would be much competition there.

I knew things were going to be a bit biased when they put the katana was put forward as the supreme weapon. It wasn't. Broadswords had similar metallurgy but needed to be heavier to get through heavier armour. The European way of war was definitely more obscene than samurai. Harald was killed with an arrow through his eye. William didn't care who the Archer was and as for "limiting the bloodshed", if you could kill them all, you did, otherwise they just regroup for round 2. Draw weight was wise, they found 6 foot 11 inch bow on the Mary Rose with a draw weight of 185lb/84Kg. The small now found was 6 foot 2 inches. English king's went to a lot of trouble to make sure every able bodied man trained with large amounts of money as prizes for archery contests. English archers were to a certain extent deformed from this training to the extent that archeologists can tell archers from their bones alone. There's more. There was no such thing as drawing the bow, holding while aiming, then loosing the arrow. Took too much effort to hold a drawn long bow so a single action was used such that as soon as the bow reached full draw it was on target and loosed. The force to draw the bow also came more from the muscles of the back with the major part of drawing the bow occurring as the arm holding the bow was pulled down while also being generally held straight.

@gordonfrickers5592

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the long bow used here would have been considered by 'the old boys' as a bow for wimps. There is a lot more to the longbow than is being told here. Perhaps the author was trying to impress a Japanese girlfriend?

@enscroggs

Жыл бұрын

I wish someone could report the maximum draw weight of a Japanese bow dating to the Azuchi-Momoyama period, the era corresponding to that 185lb longbow recovered from the Mary Rose (sank 1545). Considering the fact that these bows were intended for mounted archery, I'd wager the most powerful samurai bow ever used had barely half that draw weight.

@enscroggs

Жыл бұрын

Every Sunday after church. Your priest could excuse you from archery practice if you're sick or your wife is sick, otherwise, you and all your sons older than 7 years and all your male servants had to be on the archery field shooting or face a fine of 6s 4d, more than a month's wages for a laborer. In 1541 Parliament passed a law against "illegal games" that were apparently taking young men's time away from archery practice.

@DironMc

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed! Every weapon is a beauty of its own!

@mangalores-x_x

Жыл бұрын

They did not need to be heavier to get through armor. They needed to be more resilient to not get easily damaged and break. Hence trading hardness and a sharp edge for slightly less edge cutting but spring steel that could be bent out of shape and recover without breaking. For the longbow archers. This is usually very exaggerated. 1) Such training regimes were normal for men obligated to military duty across Europe whatever weapon training they were asked to do. 2) The English had a real shortage of archers and did not really get tens of thousands of military archers out of this training regime. Individual defeats heavily depleting their ability to field more quickly. 3) Using the highest draw weights of the elite crew of the flagship of the English navy may distort a tad what a normal archer could do. Also there is an error margin in those measurements. 4) France implemented its own archer corps in the 100 Years War. Incidently by the 1500s they switched them to the Swiss style of war aka pike, halberd, crossbows and arquebus. Because they got their heads bashed in by Burgundian/Imperial armies which were just transitioning to that style and introduced the Landsknecht companies. 5) What is somehow constantly is ignored that infantry carried shields into the 16th century, by the 15th century particularly heavy types to be able to stop most missile weapons. ... als apparently even early guns were not crap because they still outperformed any crossbow or bow despite being little more than a metal pipe.

By no means I am an archer. However, I did archery with the YMCA for summer fun. I had no idea how much science, technology and manufacturing processes when into developing effective weapons of warfare. This is a wonderful program. Thank you everyone

So pound for pound the Yumi is a better bow; very interesting. The discussion on techniques was fascinating too. The comparison was with the smallest typical draw weight of longbow - but then the story is really about the Yumi and I get why they did that, to showcase the excellent technology. I’d love to see a similar show on the longbow itself I couldn’t help thinking that the asymmetry was done to get a big bow on a horse? I wonder?

I’ve played darts in the past ,so I fully understand the last part…..hitting the the triple twenty three times in a row isn’t achieved by aiming at it,it’s achieved by a feeling. Loved this video,thanks.

Some interesting information but it's a shame they didn't compare the full size English longbow. Not just the power, accuracy and use but the making of them both and their complexities. Maybe by doing that would not provide the conclusion they wanted?

@harleyme3163

Жыл бұрын

I did the Yumi bow only ever got to 40 to 60 pounds, given they went proper style over affectivness.... they draw over they're head.. an english warbow regularly reached 120 pound draw... the yumi is no contest... we'd be sending arrows twice the range, with heavier arrows :-\

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

@@harleyme3163 Stop lying, you know nothing / Yumi can be 200 pounds if one wished to make it, same with Yew longbow / The Samurai used 80-140 pound Yumi's at a certain era when they were fighting each other / the English used 100-150 pound longbows / For the Same Poundage, the Yumi outperforms the English longbow

@jonajo9757

Жыл бұрын

​@@harleyme3163 Modern yumi are not like war yumi. Yumi back then usually had higher draw weighs comparable to english bows.

Thanks for publishing this.

While a good history of the Japanese bow, actually very little said about the title of this. Also you contradict often about why the Japanese bow is better. Why the arrow is more stable is contradicted from one scene to the very next. Not a great comparison when you talk almost nothing about the history, or even military usage of the English bow.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

The mounted Japanese archer was an elite troop. The English bowman was part of a big army, kind of a every man soldier. 10,000 english bowman are probably better than 50 samurai. It was a lot more complex and time consuming to make the Japanese bow.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffk464 so Longbow men are better then knights as well? That doesn't even make any sense both are part of big armies, did longbowmen numbers even reach those kinds of numbers often?, England didn't even have the culture that really all of Asia pretty much had with bows, bows were also not Just use on horseback. no definitely was not more complex or time-consuming.

A 23 kg bow is about 50lb draw weight.this would have been a hunting bow or a boys bow.war bows were typically 90 to 150 lbs a much more powerful bow.the Japanese bow was faster to use and were used differently. The British often fired volleys of arrows from a longer distance. Great info thanks for posting

@carlwoods4564

Жыл бұрын

Not the British. The English and Welsh.

@dinoquintana4319

Жыл бұрын

@@carlwoods4564 my apologies Carl .I'm Hispanic and from the southwest USA and I always consider myself American. Sorry if I offended you. I do recognize the fact that it was prince madoc of Wales that had the 1st documented landing in North America several hundred years before Columbus. No bad on anybody from your part of the world. Thx for correcting me

@carlwoods4564

Жыл бұрын

@@dinoquintana4319 Not offended. Just pointing it out. Ive never heard of the Welsh landing in the US. Ill have to look into that. South West USA looks like an amazing place. Id love to see Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc.

@dinoquintana4319

Жыл бұрын

@@carlwoods4564 I first read of prince madoc in a Louis L'Amour novel .he wrote over 50 books and put alot of real history In them . Anything I ever questioned always turned out to be true. It's been many years since I read of madoc.i believe it was in Sacketts land or to the far blue mountains. How would you term someone from your country. I never knew the difference between between English ,British, or Welsh

@carlwoods4564

Жыл бұрын

@@dinoquintana4319 Im Nortwest England. So I consider myself English first and foremost. British is a collective term for the English, Scots, Welsh and Northern Ireland. Though lots of Scots and Welsh dislike the term and more recently more English dislike the term.

So it was the Japanese who invented the drive-by!? Well it was much more honorable and respectful than the gangster one.

@thislightful

Жыл бұрын

Lol good point minus the sound of a galloping horse.

@chipschannel9494

Жыл бұрын

They were gangster.

@byronharano2391

Жыл бұрын

Love your observations sir. Perfect post! Arigato

@camielhank4642

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@franksullivan1873

Жыл бұрын

Lol

There is some bias in the video. They chose bows of similar draw weight of approximately 50 pounds. No English war bow would have that light a draw - from what I have read, about double that was normal.

@buggsy5

Жыл бұрын

There is a lot of myth involved as well. For example, the Japanese arrow does not fly straight without flexing. It flexes just as much as an arrow shot from an English longbow - that is going to happen with any reasonable stiffness arrow that is shot, regardless of the bow type, type of arrow release or where the arrow rests before the release. So while the Japanese history may be accurate, something I know little about, the "facts" about the physics of the bow and arrow are highly suspect.

This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you

As someone who has a very little experience at using a long bow and is also a decendant of a long line of long bowmen from medival England, I have the up most respect from these Japanese archers, the discipline, ceremony and bravery is astonishing. I just wish the art of archery was more celebrated over here.

@coleparker

10 ай бұрын

Over here? Just curious, do you mean in Britain?

Excellent documentary! I know so much more about the samurai bow and its part in Japanese history and culture. Such dedication to perfection in development and shooting skill, even from a galloping horse. For over 800 years, that one family has carried the responsibility of carrying on the tradition, but I'm glad the son also studied biology. Such pressure on him to carry on the family tradition, when he might have other plans for his life. If I was him, it would be, "Sorry Pops, I'm outa' here.", as soon as I landed a job in a biology lab.

I don't know average draw weight for Yumi but many English longbows were 150lbs (68kg) or more.

@jonajo9757

Жыл бұрын

Expect a war yumi to be around 100-130lbs and the same for english bows. Japanese bows can be made to reach 200lbs.

They’re missing certain things: available materials, length of manufacturing, who can afford it, and who’s it going to be used against. While the samurai bow might be a more versatile bow the English (and by extension the Welsh and Romans) not only didn’t have access to bamboo as materials but they also saw their bows as not just a weapon of war but a practical tool for survival, more over they considered battle as a serious affair not as a theater to show off! Granted having your bow break was indeed a great lose no matter which side of the pond; the English as well as the Welsh and Romans not only had dedicated workshops of craftsmen churning out bows in large numbers (and thus reduce the price) utilized the wood itself and the level of decoration to dictate who owned it or at least commissioned it. If you were an archer and you stumbled upon someone with polished bow made from ironwood and inlaid or trimmed (or not) with say ebony or ivory, or gold filigree then you automatically knew that the owner was well-off, knew someone well off who owed them a favor, or somehow just got damn lucky! The other reason the western bows are known better is by legislation. Toyotomi Hideyoshi passed legislation that forced non-samurai to surrender their weapons and banned all non-samurai from owning any kind of genuine weapon including the bow to reassert the “status quo”; in the west the bow was heavily relied upon by everyone regardless of their social status only slowly going out of fashion as a primary weapon of war with the advancements in firearms technology. In fact despite archery being more of a sport now there are still more people who know how and can easily use the western bow (as well as its composite cousin) than the Japanese bow. In fact the number of Japanese bow making has become an endangered craft as there are increasingly fewer bow makers as people are switching to either composite bows or ones made of plastic.

@Tennouseijin

Жыл бұрын

And yet Japanese archery and bow making is still in a far better situation than many other cultures'. Japan managed to popularize their culture and martial arts beyond Japan, and you can find kyudo schools in many European cities, and I presume on other continents as well. Many of those schools import yumi from Japan. On the other hand, I'm yet to see, say, a Korean archery school outside of Korea, or a Native American one, or many, many other cultures. At best I've seen some hobbyists who order locally, from a bowyer who mostly makes European bows, to make a Korean bow for them, for example.

@d0lph1n63

Жыл бұрын

@@Tennouseijin that’s because it hasn’t been subjected to the same level of discrimination as other societies, remember Japan isolated itself from the rest of the world until the mid 19th century so it avoided a lot of the crap other cultures went through plus post-isolation Japanese culture didn’t bar anyone from actually learning how to use their weapons or incorporating pieces of their culture into others. That’s what allowed it to survive, most Native American cultures are stingy when it comes to allowing outsiders into their tribes and are even culturally hostile towards those who have a quarter of their blood or less or are the descendants of tribes that no longer exist but want to get in touch with their roots through the next best option.

@anthonywilson4873

Жыл бұрын

The method of attack two lines one moving the other firing is the same today with assault rifles. One group engaging with aimed shots the other moves forwards through them and talked position and fires. The other group moves through them and so on. Techniques are the same

@stever8776

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@alanthomas2064

Жыл бұрын

Yeh , a couple of minutes on the ,longbow! Foreign one bound to be better eh?

Completely ignores the difference in tactics between the full size longbow and the yumi. The yumi was used by a small force of mounted samurai against enemies without shields, while the longbow was used by a very large company of archers who fired in double shots-- one arching high and raining down on the enemy formation, while the second shot was horizontal-- impossible to defend against both simultaneously with a shield. It was a terror weapon, not an honor weapon.

@aburoach9268

Жыл бұрын

actually, wheter the enemy would use shields or not wouldn't matter that much with the Yumi because it shot exceptionally Heavy arrows (100-250 gram) with a very long draw length from the Yumi / it goes without saying that for the same draw length, the punch and piercing power of the Yumi arrow would be far greater, it could be compared to the Manchu bow / since such heavy arrows don't go long distances, they are not meant for indirect volley shots through the sky

@edwardanderson4678

Жыл бұрын

On most occasions the English Long Bow was referred to as the machine gun of the Middle Ages.

@michaeltelson9798

Жыл бұрын

The required Sunday shooting by English law enabled the English kings to have a reliable semi trained and equipped force of troops rather than a peasant levee with an odd assortment of arms.

@hugom2418

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this documentary left much to be desired, though I must add. Early Samurai warfare was against small groups of mounted samurai yes, but also their retainers on foot helping them, and they would sometimes use wooden shields. The samurai themselves instead wore very heavy armor that was especially good against arrows. Later forms of samurai warfare saw battles similar to those you would see in Europe, with large groups of foot soldiers with bows in many similar formations and the use of large wooden shields. War is war no matter where you go, I don't think one is inherently better than the other, just most suited for each situations.

@necrodamus5481

Жыл бұрын

Perfect! There is no honor in war. Use all at one's disposal to win

Strange they spent so much time on the Yumi and basically none on the English Longbow. Both are interesting and have fascinating histories and unique functions and philosophies behind their use.

@acsiata

Жыл бұрын

It's a Yumi porn fest while the longbow (the better weapon is ignored) why better? It pierces male and plate, it's cheaper and faster to mass produce, more available, and the quantity of the people knowing how to use it was way larger in England . If those 2 countries had to go to war against each other the English would win (just like they did in the industrial age) .

@coleparker

10 ай бұрын

I know. It is like they included they included the Long bow portion only to attract more viewers. Why didn't they compare it to the Mongol Recurve bows?

Apples and oranges comparison, a true comparison would have be between a average draw weight of a 100lbs on a Japanese war bow vs the average weight of 180lbs on a English yew warbow. The weight both weapons were intended to be used on the battle field. Comparing them at the same weight doesn't reflect realistic historical values.

@otavio.a.8.r

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you in this point. Also I don't how much heavy can a yumi be, I'm curious cuz it doesn't seem to be capable of support it. What is the heavier yumi ever made, does anyone have an idea?

@realherbalism1017

Жыл бұрын

​@@otavio.a.8.rbamboo

@edwardanderson4678

Жыл бұрын

When they raised the Mary Rose they found hundreds of long bows in her hold and it was amazing how many were still in excellent condition, some of these bows had a draw weight of over 200 pounds! They have exhumed the remains of English Long Bow men and found that they have distorted spines from continually drawing these heavy weight bows and also from there attempts to be able to draw heavier and heavier bows, I would class this as strong supporting evidence for your argument.

@luisaraujo4708

Жыл бұрын

You appear to be conflating “comparison” and “competition”.

@user-rcghjewqw

Жыл бұрын

I have just happend to watch a series about longbow, where they pull it with 160lb

Awesome. I wish they also included Korean and Hungarian bows in the comparison.

@descriptiondescriptiondescript

Жыл бұрын

This. I think those bows were superior to the Japanese design in every way.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

@@descriptiondescriptiondescript Turkish bow also. Although probably not that different from a Hungarian bow.

@ciprianganea759

Жыл бұрын

​@@jeffk464 in eastern Europe all bows was comparable. Just few features make the difference the judge difference was made by the archers and military doctrine.

@gatsbyl7216

10 ай бұрын

there is no 'korean bow'.

@skaldlouiscyphre2453

10 ай бұрын

@@gatsbyl7216 So the Gakgung is imaginary?

I see a lot of comments to the effect that draw weight is the determining factor in a bow's ability. Having worked on bows for major manufacturers, I can state this is not exactly true, as can be determined by reading any decent archery magazine. It isn't the draw weight that is important so much as the stored energy -- is the area underneath the curve created by plotting the bows draw weight at distance along the draw. For example, we could have a bow with a 50 pound draw and a 34 inch draw length that actually stores more energy than a 75 pound bow with a much shorter draw. This leads to the matter of brace height, which is the distance between the string and the back of the handle when the bow is at rest. A higher brace height has a number of significant advantages when it comes to shooting, but a lower brace height allows you to draw the string further and thus to store more energy in the limbs. Another factor is how rapidly the limbs stack up, meaning how rapidly the force increases as you draw the string back. a limb that builds up force rapidly will store more energy than one that does so slowly -- this is precisely why compound bows work -- the block and tackle effect allows the use of limbs that are highly stressed even when the bow is not drawn and therefore the rate at which force increases -- and is stored in the limb -- is much greater. Finally, there is limb efficiency. Let's face it, you can only move these limb materials just so fast. A long bow has limbs that move forward whereas recurve tips tend to unwind and move outwards as well as forwards. Drawing the string of a longbow at rest takes little power because the mechanical advantage of any straight surface is infinite and the draw weight rises as you start to deflect the surface to form a triangle. By comparison, the recurve limb is partly pulling outwards and you are working against the string's tension -- and so a recurve can build up force earlier into the draw and can apply that force to the arrow later in its travel. None of this is to say that draw weight isn't important, but it is the total stored energy and the mechanical efficiency that are paramount. Peak draw weight indicates a potential for the amount of mechanical energy that might be available for storage but this is always tempered by how that force is peak force is reached. Finally, you get obscure but important factors like the resiliency of the wood, the limb width, thickness, and taper in both of these directions. Then there is the arrow. Up to a certain point, a heavier arrow will be more efficient. We could take an imaginary arrow that is stiff, but weighs no more than a soda straw. When shot from the bow, it would provide very little resistance to the bow limbs and thus little energy would be transferred to our imaginary arrow. A light, but practical arrow, absorbs more energy and only travels a little slower. A heavy arrow might not be travelling as fast as the light one, but this is because the limbs are travelling slower because they are being forced to transfer their stored energy into the heavy arrow. So, while peak draw weight is a factor that suggests performance, it isn't a definitive predictor.

@NoName-lo9ym

Жыл бұрын

Higher draw weight Warbows require heavier arrows (140lbs plus which were common). The energy of such a projectile would clearly be far greater than that of a 50lb Yumi with its lightweight arrow.

@wendywhales2310

Жыл бұрын

Ask the French.,??.

Robin Hood used a 250 lb draw weight bow and could shoot from the hip. William Tell told me this down the Farmers Arms pub

Thank you for this video. I find the traditional ways of the riding bowmen is fascinating to me,as well as how each part of the equipment is handmade .over time I could see how the pieces were picked,and made its honorable and detailed to the finest touches possible, even though its not a competition, sucess always matters.I appreciate this video thank you!

@BUSTERy

Жыл бұрын

Think this would be like a tiger tank versus the russian t34, yes the tiger is better but overly complicated! You could make 10 t34s for every one tiger tank. Different tools for different jobs, I doubt the samurai would have the space to fight the way they would wish to. The middle ages was a very brutal time for warfare anywhere really at this time! Remember no docs so an infected wound was a death sentence. Who pays you to give up your normal life and become an archer????

The Japanese seem to have a special gift of making absolutely everything boring with all the pomp and ceremony.

The narrator claims the Samurai was almost invincible, which is laughably untrue as well as illogical. Firstly, the samurai usually fought other samurai. If they were "nearly invincible" these battles would have been a series of draws and stalemates, but that wasn't the case. Battles which ended with one side being virtually exterminated by the other were common. Furthermore, when samurai fought foreign soldiers, Mongols and Koreans, the samurai lost more often than they won. The Tokugawa clan inflicted the final defeat of the samurai using an army composed mainly of non-samurai peasant conscripts using spears and matchlock muskets.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

Knights mostly fought other knights, Armies mostly consisted more of non-knights soldiers are you going to say the same thing, the Tokugawa Clan did not inflicted the defeat of Samurai at all either was a Army of non-Samurai unique( they were also not comscripts), actually the samurai won more often in those invasions with the yuan Dynasty the Mongols even praised their enemies combat capabilities, the whole story with the storm is a myth in face there is no mention of one in the first invasion second one yeah but only after battle occurred when the Army was on its last legs use as an excuse to deny Rewards, later on in time Japanese mercenaries were actually hired by Europeans and Southeast Asian kingdoms as bodyguards or soldiers having quite the reputation among them.

@gatsbyl7216

10 ай бұрын

what? where did you hear such nonsense? I am Korean, and samurai have an overwhelming record of hand-to-hand combat in international wars. Study some history.

The Samaria bow was perfect for use on horseback but would have been a nonstarter for the large-scale campaigns led by the English. In large-scale operations, the English bowmen were far more effective than any other force at that time.

@tk9839

Жыл бұрын

You make no sense...the Yumi had more stopping and penetration power (heavier arrow with the same velocity as the long bow arrow). If one were to have equal access to acquiring the said bows, I'd without a doubt pick the Yumi but in reality the English bows were most likely easier to produce in large numbers.

@billwinship3734

Жыл бұрын

@@tk9839 Dear TK Thank you for your message, you are right, the yumi had more penetrative power, but if you were faced with ten thousand French Knights and you needed sheer volume of arrows, the kind of volume which made the sky turn dark, you needed the English longbow....in volume. In reality of scale, the yumi would be about as much good as a one-legged man in a backside kicking competition. 😂

@johanmetreus1268

Жыл бұрын

@@billwinship3734 In scale, a big European army had 20-25 thousand soldiers. At the same time, the Japanese fought battles with hundreds of thousands involved.

@snidely_whiplash

Жыл бұрын

@bill winship Why can't you employ the same tactic with the Yumi?

@johanmetreus1268

Жыл бұрын

@@tk9839 The fundamental construction of the Yumi might be more efficient (20% ?) than the Longbow, but, does it scale? We know that the low limit for bows in war was 80 pounds in draw, with twice that being the norm. That means unless Yumis can be made at 130lbs of draw, the Longbow will have the heavier impact on the armoured target.

You compare bows at a draw weight of 23 kilos,- about 50 pounds. We cannot be sure of the draw weight of an English war bow of the Mediaeval period, but most estimates I have seen show a minimum of 60 pounds and a maximum of C 160. Perhaps not a realistic comparison?

I bet more on the person using it and their abilities than the actual bow itself. If you cant hit anything than no matter what bow you use it wont be worth a shit.

Beautiful documentary. Only one thing I'm puzzled about: Why use bows with draw weights of 23 kg when testing the impact on armor, when the bows used on the battle field was more likely to be closer to twice as heavy?

Interesting fact the 1st use of the long bow in battle was at Crug Mawr 1136, It was never an english long bow it was and always will be the welsh lomg bow.

Seems biased. Doesnt seem like a proper comparison with both 23kg force wheras in reality Eng longbow was 70-80kg. Also broadsword was arguably as good as katana but they were used different.

@Warentester

Жыл бұрын

A longsword (better comparison as both are 1 + 1/2 hand swords) was better, as two edges, better metal and able to pierce. The Samurai wouldn't be able to cut through the knights armour, while the knight could pierce the samurai's armour with the tip with relative ease.

The issue with the comparison is in choosing the same draw weight. Longbows would have heavier draw weights then the 23kg (50lbs) used here. Looking at how he draws the longbow it is immediately apparent that this was not a fair comparison with regards to the battlefield use. If you can draw a longbow horizontally then you chose a bow of to little draw weight.

The double - recurve Korean, Mongolian, or Turkish bow, still holds the record for the longest bow shot: 800 meters. British programs love to focus on Japan and the circumstances of both countries being island nations. The horse riders of Central Asia invented the war saddle and stirrup. Look at Korean tomb paintings of the 5th-7th centuries and you’ll see “Armored Knights” that existed 500 years before William crossed the channel in 1066.

@krisztianmezei888

Жыл бұрын

Nope...hunarian bow the record holder over 1000 meter....and we kept Europe in fear 200 years....

@cn4s490

Жыл бұрын

@@krisztianmezei888 1000 meters . What do you smoke? The Mongols invaded Hungary. The Hungarians adopted Mongol weapons such as armor, swords and bows. hungarians just copied it.

@krisztianmezei888

Жыл бұрын

@@cn4s490 the hungarian Monus Jozsef hold almost every record in traditional archery....i find now only video where they say 918 meter....but i remember he overtake that...im looking video for you.....but also he hold the record to shoot the aro from 320 meter to 1 meter square.....and he hold the record with english long bow....and msny variation of hungarian bows....with different power categories

3 targets. Some might think "only 3?" But notice how close they are when loosing the arrow at a target, much closer than Olympic archery for example. This shows how difficult horseback archery is especially at a full gallop! It's clearly a difficult skill to master & an impressive feat.

@MrBottlecapBill

Жыл бұрын

Most "horse archers" actually stopped to shoot their arrows. The horses were just there so they could get to strategic positions faster and then move away. Very few cultures shot while actually riding since it's not very accurate if you're an any useable speed that makes you safe from being shot back at.

@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBottlecapBill many did dismount to fight. But samurai, Mongols, Hins as well as many Plains Indian tribes, notably the Comanche, were all know to employ archery while mounted.

I can't help but be impressed by the ingenuity and skill employed to create the Yumi, however, as has been said in other comments, the needs of Eastern war were very different from Wester demands.

The Ogasawara heir is good looking... impressive!

Chain mail armors and scale armors were weak against arrows if used alone. For this reason, chain mail armors and scale armors were used in combination with shields. However, keeping shields up for hours was tiring, and some open body parts were less protected against arrows. Armies using these armors were particularly vulnerable to arrow attacks from the flanks and rear. Also, the use of two-handed weapons made it almost impossible to hold a shield. With these weak armors, you wouldn't want to use a two-handed weapon when you're under a shower of arrows. Despite better protection, manipulating a one-handed spear was more difficult than two-handed one. For this reason, such weakly armored infantry preferred the strategy of laying down their shields and raising their longer near them shortly before the enemy cavalry engaged their charge. Another method was piles driven into the ground. However, this second method resulted in fewer maneuvering options. Moreover, dropping shields was a particularly bad solution against mounted archers. The phalanx is almost the only example where very long spears are used with a shield. Soldiers in the phalanx order used the shield by putting their forearms in a cuff. So they could use the long sarissas partially with two hands. However, they used sarissas one-handed in the first line for better protection with shields, especially when there was a threat of enemy archers. Moreover, the maneuverability of the extremely long sarissas was limited due to the shield. This issue was fixed by having 3 line soldiers point their sarissas at the enemy. Thus, the enemy that the first line missed could be speared by the other line. When this organization was disrupted due to terrain conditions or lack of discipline, especially Roman Legionnaires could easily push sarissas aside or up and enter close combat with their large shields, and armies in the phalanx order were losing the war. Since effective armor technology against arrows was not developed in the early period, many armies could not stand against armies consisting mostly of heavy and light horse archers, such as the Huns, Turks and Mongols. Lamellar armors and Laminar armors, which were more common especially in the east, were slightly more resistant to arrows. But it was still far from being a good solution. In the 1300s, after the Mongol invasion, armors containing plate pieces similar to lamellar armor began to come to the fore. This increased the protection of soldiers against enemy archers. During this period, especially mail and plate armors and brigandine armors became popular. Especially mirror armor was found in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia. These armors had some arrow-resistant parts. But also, battleaxes, maces, war hammers and polaxes could be effective against these armors. The expensiveness of full plate armor limited its use outside of elite soldiers. Ironically, in the 1400s, when armor technology was well developed, the Ottoman army began to use firearms widely, and they gained the upper hand against the heavily armored armies in Europe. After the Ottoman Empire, the use of muskets became widespread in other armies. The use of armor parts other than the arrow-resistant plate body armor gradually decreased

The steppe composite bow has to be part of this equation too.

Reflexed longbows did exist in medieval times and many can be seen in period art.

Doesn't it come down to their intended use, draw weight and the weight of the arrows sent downrange? Longbows generally required more strength to pull and were dangerous out to about 300 yards. Much further than Japanese bows. But the Japanese win the contest because their recurve laminate bows were cooler.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

That ain't true. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

@billwinship3734

Жыл бұрын

Fully agree, the English Long Bow was matchless, bigger, and stronger, it just was so much more deadly on the large-scale encounters which took place.

Cool fact about Ogasawara, name was bestowed on one person in 1100s AD, part of the Minamoto Samurai bloodline name is all family was not given to non blood related families. Ya, my grandmother is Ogasawara ❤.

Nice video, but since it was mostly about the history and the continuing traditions and construction of the YUMI why was the Longbow even mentioned?

I shoot an Assyrian style horsebow. It is shorter than both the Longbow and the Yumi, but it does a good job of delivering power on to a target. It is also an older design.

So the longbow had a high draw weight because it was inefficient compared to a recurve bow. Interesting!

@benbim540

Жыл бұрын

No it had a higher draw weight because it was a long range weapon fired on mass by thousands of archers at a distance up to 450 yards to get 450 yards the draw weight needed to be around 160lbs on a 6 foot plus bow and some of the bows found on the Mary rose had a drew weight of 185lbs on a bow over 2 metres long. the bones of archers dug op from the 13 century have found to be massively deformed to accommodate huge muscles to pull these incredible draw weights. the excavation of the Mary Rose, where bows were found ranging in length from 6 ft 2 in to 6 ft 11 in (1.87 to 2.11 m) with an average length of 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m

this documentary is missing the fact that an English long bow man was pulling a draw weight up to 200lbs and that's why they had a range up to 450 yards and the bow man developed huge muscles from pulling huge weights from a very young age.

Not to be that guy, but the samurai in the forefront at 0:28 has his armor on backwards.

Me thinks the ease of use comes into this discussion more than the producers care to admit. Take 1 man and train him for 1 month, practice everyday for 2 hours; do both bows the same way and after that month elapses test the accuracy at 50 yards. The Longbow would be easier to master than the Yumi and would deliver more volume and thus hits over time. Now try all this with a modern recurve bow and watch the results, this bow will shock you less than the longbow to shoot, be easier to shoot overall and give better results on target due to increased ease of use over both that longbow or yumi. The recurve is the king of the traditional bows but then someone brings up one of those killers, the compound bows? Those things are death machines and put the traditional bows to shame with only 1 crucial exception: the recurve is easier to shoot instinctively, with no sights whatsoever, so in an emergency do you want complicated technology or simplicity? Recurve wins in an emergency, and would behest overall champ.

Loved that one

crazy how Japan and Europe had similar feudal systems at roughly similar times

I've noticed that documentary/dramas about the Samurai in recent times don't seem to bother doing period-correct hairstyles anymore. I can sympathize if actors don't want to shave their heads into the something more accurate, but at the same time, isn't that in their job description?

sure would be nice to have one in the collection and shoot it. I bet it's fun to shoot.

Can anyone tell me which documentary series this video is part of?

a false comparison as the long bow in battle was used by extremely strong men with a much higher draw power,by a long way as is previously mentioned by several writers,its likke theyre changing the facts to help their thesis,

You could see on the father's face, how proud he was of his son. on hitting all 3 on the last pass. No one else could. You can only be amazed at the Japanese culture, where a family could be in the same occupation for a thousand years. And I had thought that in another video, that a guy's family in the same lean-to, selling tea for 500 years was amazing. We in the west can't comprehend this kind of tradition in Japan. It's staggering.

A longbow of just 50#? Not really a real-life comparison is it? A yumi bow can be shot from horseback, but a longbow not... so impact and penetration power versus speed and accuracy?

Japanese archer: fires three arrows at the target the two miss the last one hits the the target. American archer: Fires three arrows. Hits the center circle all three times. Japanese archer: " how did you do that?" American archer: " I just aim for the center!"

You could say these are different tools used in different ways. Samurai used bows and conscripts Yashigaru had spears. In Europe the conscripts weapon was a bow. Samurai archery was generally more about marksmanship where as longbows were used more like an artillery barrage.

More a stoke piece on Japanese Culture then a true comparison of the two bows.

Well there have been skeletons of English longbowman whose drawing arm is slightly more robust and thicker than the other this just puts into perspective how powerful that weapon is for it to alter the skeletal structure of a human being.

Lots of dynamics are at work to make an arrow affective .The type of bow and material its made from is Just as important , The maker of both is equaly as important if not more . While the yumi bow is an eye catcher it reqiures more skill to shoot one mostly in the rist and arm movment . The long bow is by far much more forgiving in And has almost no limit to postions it can be shoot. A man named Howard Hill was born in the early 1900 Lived to 1970ties was one of the greatest Achers,he did all of the difficult shoots in the movie Robin Hood staring Erro Flynn,could not have been filmed if not for the accuracy of this talented mans ability with the Long bow , If the yumi bow was "suppior " he would of used it ,His best bows were made of bamboo from japan.That he made himself Granted the long bow was a lament he used .Achived because of certain glues and epoxys. He shot self bows for many years too made out of a one peace that had to be carved out of a stave Lemon wood was a very good wood to use supior for its time and most saught after mostly from near equator ,cuba ,central america.the English used yew wood during medieval times and maple soft woods not as resilant due to the limbs weaking after so many uses a term called "string following" the limb was shorten to futher the use before throwing it away or if it broke .self made bows of one piece are suseptable to this. The string is also a dynamic part to the speed and efficiency of the bow especially in the rain will affect the dynamics. Feathers on the arrow ,wide feathers slow the arrow down ,also if the arrows spine and strightness wieght and length matter, if to stiff it will shoot to the right .to weak to the left .Howard Hill would of used a Japanesse bow if it was suppior. The long bow was his choice perfered then a recurve .you can still see his performances on youtube. I've been in Archery for over 40ty pluse years and love the sport .I have hunted ,fish,and ,shoot pheasant and dove too.

How exactly would a bamboo arrow be heavier than an ash shafted arrow? The first is literally hollow.

They’re using a very underpowered long bow. Long bow or war bow had 75+ pound draw weight. So it’s not the most proper comparison.

Nice video, but bamboo is a grass, not a tree.

English longbow was about raining arrows from a distance the Yumi was acupuncture from a distance .

Pretty silly comparison, really. Then longbow used was essentially what would have been a child’s learning bow. Those used in war would have been 45 - 55 kg draw weight, about twice that shown, with some experts drawing even heavier. And having lived in Japan and seen their arrows, with their lighter weight construction I doubt they were heavier, even though they were longer. The Japanese bow was more for horse back and closer range shooting. It was also much more expensive for their society to build, needing more specialized workers, than the long bow. Different weapons for different styles of warfare so comparisons really are pretty pointless.

@hugom2418

Жыл бұрын

Though you would be very much correct, I believe you are lumping together kyudo and yabusame bows which are of far lower draw weight and/or done at a closer range. War bows were of similar draw weight and could be effective from 15-40km depending on the opponent's armour, since armour piercing was the goal.

The comparison of using two bows of the same draw weight was fair, but in reality English longbows were seriously of a heavier draw weight that the traditional Japanese Yumi. Most Yumi are only 25 - 35 lb draw weight whereas a longbow was 75 lb or more. The bows used at battles like at Agincourt were thought to have been 90 - 110 lb and bows up to 185 lb have been recorded. An expert Welsh or English archer could loose off an arrow every three seconds. It was said that at Agincourt the sun was blotted out and the land became like dusk with the volleys of arrows fired by massed ranks of archers.

It's cool that finally people remembered that samurais used bow, not only katanas, but just as katana, Yumi is no magical weapon. It's just a bow as any other in the planet. Now my critics and comments: Firstly they forget to mention what is the maximum or at least the historical warbow pound. I've no idea how heavy can a yumi be, and if it could be made 130 to 160 pounds as a European warbow. Secondly, unlike people usually think the lengh of the bow do not make it shoot stronger, if you make heavy bows they will perform better. As they mentioned thechnique will also afect the result. But I guess it will interfere more in the precision than the power of the bow. Except perhaps if you do khatra, but it will give it so much extra power. Yumi is designed asymetrical to allow better horseback shooting, while longbows are not, and usually used on foot. That's a great advantage comparing the the longbow, although Here just a comment: I'd like to see a comparison of Samurai, longbow and Mongolian bow. In my opinion if one of them could be classified as the best it would be the mongolian one, as it combines a great strengh due to its design and materials and also it is very well adpted to horseback shooting and easy to carry. Perhaps only turkish bow would be better cuz are even shorter. They mentioned in the video about the mongolian invasion as if it validates the yumi as a superior bow or something, but if was not the bad weather during the invasion, perhaps Japan wouldn't continue existing.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

The yumi was Just as heavy. It was also you was on foot not just on horseback. That's a myth concerning the Mongol invasions, it was used a excuse to deny rewards, also there is no mention of a storm in the first invasion second one yes but only after the battles, the Mongols even praised their enemies, not saying which bow is better but wanted to point that out. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

I have a Yumi, Longbow, Manchu, Tatar and Korean. The Yumi is by far the most inferior, its fun to use because of its flaws and makes it harder to master, but in a battle I would take an English longbow all day between the two. Where the Chinese and Mongolian horn bows would be the absolute best of this time.

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

You should look up actual Japanese war bows. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

@bogdanbaudis4099

Жыл бұрын

@@eagle162 "Wakyuu" ... suspiciously little info available for that?

@user-zk6bb8ih7u

Жыл бұрын

Japanese bows are the most difficult bows in the world. A bow that flies the best if mastered.

@bogdanbaudis4099

Жыл бұрын

@@user-zk6bb8ih7u "Japanese bows are the most difficult bows in the world. A bow that flies the best if mastered." Yes. Good for training of body and its spirit/soul. Not so much as a real weapon. That's why there is a difference between "do" and "jitsu". 🙂

@eagle162

Жыл бұрын

@@bogdanbaudis4099 it's just the actual term for Japanese bow,yumi is the generic term for bow, anyway read the article.tho it should say wakyu. You're confusing kyudo bows for actual Japanese war bows.

A 23kg English longbow would have been a youth's practice bow, the real deal being up to 3 times more powerful and easily outperforming the much lighter draw Japanese bow.

Also, wasn't the Yumi a common bow, while the Samurai's longbow was the Daikyu?

I wish they used war bow level of draw weight anything over 45kg, about 100 pound draw. They're only shooting about 50 pound draw here and they still had lethal damage, the English War Bow some had draws well over 100, up to 150 pounds.

31:50 - "This is a shamefrul display!!!" _Shogun Total War Drum Theme Plays_ I think the ultimate bow was the Hun bow. They volleyed like the English, to massacre heavily-armored Romans. They blocked out the sun, doing endless Cantabrian Circles, hopping on fresh horses with fully-stocked quivers without touching the ground. They rode on horseback, just like the Japanese, and invented the A-symmetrical bow - which the Japanese continue to perfect. Both the English and the Japanese were mega-successful with archery - because they were doing it like the Huns - who were doing it, _before it was cool._ The only things the Huns (perhaps) were missing - was the stirrup. The stirrup means you can stand on a _plane_ and fire during a certain moment in the horse's stride. Time it perfectly - and you pack more punch with the arrow. Kassai Lagos - should enter the chat!

Now I recall this vid. Couple years past, some Aussie Rascal ignited a bit of controversy about the long bow and how the arrow is launched from a long bow. It all boiled down to which side of the bow you launched the arrow. Some Danish individual seemed to agree. Believe a few other Utube CCs did some technical examination. Upshot? Go look for them. I thought the entire discussion was entetainng, informative and I wish I had taken up archery to shoot with a longbow.

The English long bow as a a war bow had a draw weight of 120 to 200 lbs, and Mongol war bows had at least the same power. 25kg/ 60 lbs bows have to be considered as hunting bows oder - in comparison - as toys. There are only a few sportsmen who are able to shoot 160+ lbs bows

Everything about the samurai culture is very impressive

@guythomas7051

Жыл бұрын

yes the brutality, contempt for life - nothing to be admired here -- Japanese Bushido culture left a trail of millions of dead Chinese , murdered and brutalised commonwealth soldiers, you are mesmerized by myth industry.

0:46 - show-kyudo! wrong side... 26:28 Mori-san, one of my kyudo teacher: Why the grip isn´t in the middle of the yumi...

For me, I said BIG NO for any kind of deadliest bow 🏹,, the deadly is the Archer who using any kind of bow ..

During my time travel no one stood a chance against my Gatlin...😊

You should include the bows used by the Mongols.

Good information, nice documentary

there are compound long bows too. its just not neccesary to laminate them as much because the dont flex as much as recurve bows do. the poundage of a yumi is from what I could gather with a google search arround 55lbs. A european Warbow (no metter the kind) starts at arround 100lbs. A longbow with a drawweight of 35lbs is most like for target practice. also you can shot a longbow or ANY bow for that matter from the right or the left side. it has nothing to do with the kind of bow but the prefference of the shoter and the perpose. generally speaking the inside is easier in precision the outside is faster to reload. it depends on training though.

This completely ignores that English had special way of standing and pulling the longbow-which the guy shooting it in the video certainly didn't do! It allowed English to shoot arrows with much greater strenght, than others in Europe did. It's called leaning into the bow and is found in historical records, but very few people do it nowadays. This special posture made english longbow even deadlier than it already was.

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It is a fallacy to assume the Japanese arrow is heavier than the English arrow because it's longer. Traditional Japanese arrows are made from bamboo, which is hollow, whereas traditional English war arrows are made of solid hardwood, the preferred wood being ash, one of the densest woods in nature. (In the Middle Ages there were arrows of different weights and lengths for hunting and target shooting.) It is also a fallacy to imply that Japanese arrows are more accurate than English arrows. Does the archer hit his mark is the only valid question? The path the arrow takes from bow to bullseye is irrelevant.

@eagle162

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Japanese arrows would have actually been heavier. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

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I fully agree, the English arrows were second to none. As you say ash is very dense, especially compared to bamboo, the video on the two bows was just another woke attempt to rewrite our history, it was actually completely unprofessional and like many woke articles, trying to do down our great English and Welsh history. No, the English/Welsh Longbows were second to none. Fact.

The English war bow 200lb draw... Go through plate armor.... Also the European sword can cut just as well as Japanese sword.

I always thought the "Long Bow" was a relatively easy mass produced Cost Effective Volley weapon for the average soldier? The Yumi was a Custom Costly and Intensely Trained weapon system meant for Nobel soldiers?