It's a shame that people do not understand that the Mandalorian Mercs are completely based off of Legends. It's truly saddening that they never paid homage to them.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

Partially the reason why I'm hesitant on joining the MMCC, though I'm constantly upgrading my kit to be approvable.

@gp5operator751

5 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE I think you should. I'm trying to do one myself but I think you will definitely get in. Best of luck, vod.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

@@gp5operator751 You as well

@flare9757

4 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE I am a set of Shocktrooper armor t get in the 501st.

@JJoh4040

4 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE what is the mmcc?

And the clone wars series thought: Let's change everything

@HonestHappyHater

5 жыл бұрын

Well, Mandalore from TCW can fit into EU, Wookieepedia summs it up pretty well. But yeah, Dave Filoni just went "yo, imma write dis better", completly disregarding the lore

@starwars90001

5 жыл бұрын

@@HonestHappyHater Lucas decide to change things, many things were change because he wanted to write his own story that's why Lucas changed Korrband to Morband.

@HonestHappyHater

5 жыл бұрын

@@starwars90001 He changed Korriban to Moraband, because he thought that Korriban is too simmilar to Coruscant and people can mistake it. No, I don't understand that either, but that's how it was

@JohnDoe-pw9wj

5 жыл бұрын

​@@HonestHappyHater Leland Chee managed to reconcile the two with a bit of finagling, but that's not the same as it "fitting." He had to give the planet a second capital and a good deal of other handwaving to make it work.

@JohnDoe-pw9wj

5 жыл бұрын

@@starwars90001 Lucas's involvement in TCW is greatly exaggerated, and after Season 2 went down to effectively zero. I can't speak with certainty whether he specifically was responsible for the name change, but it's already been established through DVD commentary, interviews, and other sources that Filoni was responsible for most of the EU contradictions, including saying that Sith can't be Force ghosts, the Quinlan Vos nonsense, muh brain chips, and the Mandalorian shite.

Screw Duchess Satine, screw Bo Katan, screw Pre Vizla, screw the New Mandalorians, screw Sabine Wren, screw the darksaber and screw Gar Saxon.

@iceomistar4302

3 жыл бұрын

Screw Din Djarin and Grogu

@elperrodelautumo7511

3 жыл бұрын

We can let these two Mandalorian groups co exist together. Heck make the TCW Mandalore co exist with the Legends OG Mandalore. That the old Mandalore stays as a neutral holy land. And the TCW Mandalore the ass kissers of the Galactic Republic.

@qr-code6334

3 жыл бұрын

@@elperrodelautumo7511 I think most of the legends pre-Clone Wars Mandalorian lore can be tied in with their portrayal in TCW series. In TCW, it's clear that they haven't always been pacifists and this has just happened under the rule of Duchess Satine and as the result of the Mandalorian civil war, during which the "True Mandalorian" (as seen in the Jango Fett comics) fell and in some turn of events, the Death Watch fell too and were exiled, later developing into a secretive "terrorist" group that waited to return later. I see the lore as the New Mandalorians taking on the place of the True Mandalorians after they fell apart and were defeated and the New Mandalorians winning the war and soon turning pacifist. The New Mandalorians might've not been that different to the True Mandalorians during the war, just that they weren't as devoted to the Mandalorian heritage, which in turn made it easier for them to compleatly lose their Mandalorian ways and become pacifists. I don't see any reason for anyone saying "screw this" and "screw that" about them. I feel that Mandalore and Mandalorians are portrayed well enough in TCW, altough ofc I would like to see more Mandalorian warrior action. Hopefully Disney fully canonizes the story seen in "Jango Fett: Seasons", as they already confirmed Jango participated in the civil war. Hopefully they flesh out the civil war more and hopefully the lore of the True Mandalorians return.

That bit about considering the stories of clone wars era Mandalore to be fabrications by the Empire...Clever. I like this channel already.

"THE LORE MASTER OF MANDALORE..." Man I live for that intro. It's so great haha Another fantastic video, these are always of high quality and engaging to listen to. Even if I already know all the history myself, your presentation is extremely entertaining! One thing I really liked about this episode is the classic Battlefront 1 Planet zoom in, that added a lot to holovideo style you have going on. Of course other things like the ambient sounds to go with the pictures just add to the overall immersion. I've mentioned it before, I really appreciate how you treat the 2008 Clone Wars retcon with regards to eu lore, and nowhere has that been more applicable than with the mandalorian culture. That was a really clever little segment to the video. Keep up the great work! These lore videos really help remind me of what I love about Star Wars, and its great expansive universe of materials. May the force be with you, always.

I do love it when stuff from the Expanded Universe from the 80's (like the Marvel Comics or the Nelvana Cartoons) gets brought back. It never happened too often, unfortunately, but I am glad that Mandalore is an exeption to this. So, I take that this Video confirms that you *do* see TCW as a part of Legends, but an in-universe propaganda series rather than actual, literal events?

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

In accordance with a theory on Reddit I read about a year ago, I see TCW as Republic and Imperial Propaganda films, that have some level of truth to them, but for the most part, never happened.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

@UC0XRpJbCi9PJijXr7ZzHedw Read through it a little bit but I was peeved when he stated that, apart from licensing, George had no involvement in the microseries, which is false. There are 2 documentaries (Clone Wars: Bridging the Saga, and Clone Wars: Connecting the dots) and the commentary for both Volumes I and II with interviews with Genndy Tartikovski, Paul Rudish, Derek Bachman, and George Lucas Himself that dispute otherwise. I dont know what compelled Mr. Chee to say that

@theketaminefrog6366

10 ай бұрын

​@@Manda-LOREWhy would imperial propaganda depict Jedi in a positive light? Why would any in-universe propaganda show Palpatine as a sith lord?

@gabethebabe3337

8 ай бұрын

@@theketaminefrog6366why does TCW go out of it’s way to retcon character deaths that happen not just in the EU, but also the movies? Manda-Lore said there was SOME level of truth to TCW when it didn’t contradict the timeline or established lore.

@theketaminefrog6366

8 ай бұрын

@@gabethebabe3337 What movie deaths did it retconned? As for EU deaths, this is actually quite simple- being higher in the hierarchy of canon, TCW could disregard almost every other sources whenever it pleased, which unfortunatelly for canon at the time, it often did. I do not see what does it have to do with my question tho, while I do not see TCW as part of the Legends continuity, I also don't think headcanoning it as propaganda makes sense

5:53 That's when the Mandalorians started becoming servents to "the top dog" of the republic or sith which in my opinion is how they become almost exstinct like Kreia said in her prophecy about them at the end of Knights of The Old Republic 2. The mandalorians forgot that they ARE CONQUERERS THAT BOW TO NOONE and will happily all go extinct before they become the passive people they are now in the Clone Wars. It's like the ancient Greeks and Romans pledging their loyalty to the Egyptians or Persians just because they are powerful empires. For example at the 10:00 and 12:55 minute mark in my opinion the empire would have NEVER been able to colonize the Mandalorian planet in the OLD REPUBLIC Era and the Yujong Vong would have NEVER left the Galaxy alive for telling the Old Republic Mandalorians "we will choose to leave your planet intact" lol. The Mandalorians (like Canderous told Carth Onasi in the video "Warriors Vs Soldiers") were outnumbered by the Republic six to one and they were STILL winning the war. What the Mandalorians have become in the new canon is going from the ancient Greek SPARTANS from the Old Republic Era to watered down cheap immitations who simply call themselves Mandalorians but really are not because they have too passive, they serve other armies, they are not a Galaxy superpower anymore or the GREATEST WARRIORS in the Galaxy. The Mandalorians used to be the like Batman in outer space and the Saiyan's combined

That "being tracked for looking at the wrong info" gag is a little too real now days.

Hey Fordo, we're planning on doing a podcast on defending the SW prequels (this one first in 2 weeks from now) and maybe another take on defending the EU a few months later as well if you'd like to, this time we have a competent recording software. If you'd like to join.

@ArcTrooperRod-269

3 жыл бұрын

WHEN & WHERE?

Video suggestion: story of Kal Skirata and his whole family (clan)

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

I believe both kal and clan skirata are on my list

@marcusanark2541

5 жыл бұрын

Up.

Jaina Solo was an awesome pilot like her dad, a powerful jedi, and trained with the mandalorians. I miss Jaina.

That Star Wars Republic Commando music in the background is exquisite!

This was a nice surprise to see this video in my feed on my birthday. Another stellar upload, as always :)

Good history. I love that Clone Wars bit. Also I would like to know where you got the picture at 15:09 and if anyone can give me the names of all of the characters in it. I recognize the Clone Commandoes as Delta and Omega Squads, ARC troopers Alpha and Ordo, I think Cassus Fett is the one in the all-gold armor and cloak, and the Jedi Etain Tur-Mukan.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

That's a fan drawing I found on Deviantart of all the members of Clan Skirata. The gold Mando is the artist's interpretation of Kal Skirata, all of the rest of the characters are the main characters from the Republic Commando series.

@GAdmThrawn

5 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE Ok, that makes more sense.

Fantastic work as always!

So, how'd you get this video past current imperial censorship?

wait... Jacen Solo... son of Leia and Han Solo. a jedi who was part of Luke's new Jedi Order... turned to the dark side and became a sith... hmm, i wonder where ive heard that before? Damn Disney....

Love your videos, keep up the good work!

I don't think them and the echani dont play well... it's been said echani weapons aren't even suitable for children... according to Canderous Ordo. I think

@darthknightwingphoenix2081

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, Canderous didn't think very highly of the Echani, called them "fey dancers prancing around with weapons that wouldn't be fit for Mandalorian children". I'm paraphrasing here, been awhile since I played the game. But that was only Canderous's opinion, and it's possible that other Mandalorians might have thought of them more highly.

Have Mandalore in The Clone Wars be changed to Kalevala, a toxic desert world in the Mandalore system and the pacifist mandalorians rule from that planet and represent the system to the wider galaxy, as the clans on mandalore won't have an interest in politics, and Viszla's deathwatch is trying to exterminate the pacifists so the mandalorians are no longer tarnished or something

@elperrodelautumo7511

3 жыл бұрын

That makes more sense as to make both planets named separately. Heck it bridge legends and canon Star Wars fandom instead of causing more problems.

Great content as always. Any possibility of a history of the major starfighter manufacturers in the future, Tadd? Perhaps one of Incom and another of Sienar Fleet Systems, and the various designs they produced since the Rise of the Empire era.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

I can very well put Sienar and Incom on the list for you ;) I could do an overview video on all of the ship manufacturers but theirs so many that It's better for me to do them as individual videos

tfw an old imperial compnor bot interrupts your holonet lore video

Hm I remember seeing a third mauldalorian commander in a comic about mauls rescue

The Fall of Mandalore culture from its peak in TOR to the Fall of the Galactic Empire where they are Mandalorians in all but a name ... It is not bad idea/theme but CW did really BAD job at it ...

10:12 that is why I hate the new Disney canon because the TRUE Mandalorians from the Old Republic would have NEVER BEEN ENSLAVED AND WOULD HAVE KICKED THE EMPIRE OFF THE WORLD

Love your videos

@Manda-LORE

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It really means alot to hear this from fans

Thank you for this

Happy new year Mandoloran

Nice somraptor camo

mando mercs are the HOA OF STARWARS

Whats the title of comic that shows events of 60 BBY? (Jaster Mereel and his civil war)

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

That is Jango Fett: Open sesons. Marvel is publishing a new legends collection with those comics in them. I recommend getting your hands on it

@EliteSquter

5 жыл бұрын

So this comic definitely lands on a top of my to read list. Could You also recommend some other stuff about this awesome planet for me to read? (I already red Republic Commando and Legacy of the force series)

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

@@EliteSquter empire at war: forces of corruption has a really cool Mandalore map. I think there's mention of it in the fate of the jedi series, crucible, the most its very written about is republic commando, imperial commando and legacy of the forcw

@EliteSquter

5 жыл бұрын

And what about comics? There must be more than just Jango: Open Season This uprising under Fenn Shysa is from Star Wars 68: the search begins?

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

@@EliteSquter open seasons does t take place on mandalore, but yes the old marvel comics have a mandalore story arc. Other than that, to my knowledge, no other comics feature mandalore

Talk about the jedi civil war

can you do a video on boba fett after he escaped the sarlac

@Manda-LORE If Pre Vizsla, Satine and Bo-Katan Kryze had existed in Legends PRIOR to TCW, how would they have been portrayed?

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

So for Pre, its kinda easy. By the end of the clone wars (pre tcw) there was a resergent death watch movement on the rise (if you recall, in republic commando, Dread Priest was one of them) which was only briefly touched upon in republic commando novels, thats where pre viszla could come in. Have him be Tor Viszla's son (it was never established post tcw if he was Tor's son, only that he was related to him) leading this revitalized deathwatch movement. A pre-tcw Pre Viszla would also be less idealistic, I would imagine, seeing that, pre-tcw, the deathwatch were thugs, pirates and raiders who used the organization as a front for piracy and raketeering, unlike the deathwatch in TCW who legitimately believe in the ideals of the ancient mandalorian crusaders and that they should rise up and conquer the galaxy. So I would imagine a pre tcw depiction of pre viszla would have the same ideals as his father, with the added motive on getting revenge on all those who supported Jaster Mereel and Jango Fett for murdering his father after the mandalorian civil war. And with that we could have had this confrentation with this new deathwatch and clan skirata who were setting up a sanctuary for the clone commandos and arc troopers who wanted to leave the GAR, them being clones of Jango and all. Could have been interesting. Satine, on the other hand would have been a completley different character if she was concieved pre-tcw seeing as, mandalorians dont emphasize the importance of blood relations as she does, mandalorians also don't support monarchist dynasties, as she does, and mandalorians were far from wanting to be a neutral peaceful utopia, as she tried to preserve

4:27 i know that fight happened in TOTJ, but that art style is definitely different.... what comic is that panel from?

@Manda-LORE

3 жыл бұрын

It's from the Knights of the Old Republic series. Its a flashback scene to the events of the Tales of the Jedi Series

@EricVornoff

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Manda-LORE Does Knights of the old republic take place before Knights of the old republic: War?

@Manda-LORE

3 жыл бұрын

@@EricVornoff yep, War is the sequel

@EricVornoff

3 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE ok thanks I know being asked a million lore questions is annoying i just don't know where else to ask this

@Manda-LORE

3 жыл бұрын

@@EricVornoff i dont mind answering questions, i just dont always see them

I don't understand Filoni's fans. I understand that different people enjoy different things. And that's perfectly fine. What I don't understand are the people who genuinely think his work is of higher quality. "I like this a lot, I really enjoy this" and "this is really good, this is made of high quality" are two different things.

didn't most mandalorians lose access to beskar during the time of the movies and as a result jango fett wore durasteel armour and boba had to wear duraplast

@Manda-LORE

3 жыл бұрын

The empire enslaved the mandalorians and forced them to mine beskar because they wanted to make their own lightaber proof armor and ships. My understanding is, the beskar veins dried up at some point and it wasnt until after the Yuuzahn Vong war that a new vein was discovered. As far as I know, Jango's was actual beskar because he deflects a lightsaber blow in one of the Open Seasons comics IRC and Boba's original set of armor was his fathers that he repainted. However we do know Boba had multiple sets of armor which were made out of composite durasteel and other materials

@raphaelhanna8345

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Manda-LORE okay but im curious to know how did jango fett get killed so easily by mace windu if he was wearing beskar and how were the mandalorians at the battle of galidraan killed so easily by the jedi

@Manda-LORE

3 жыл бұрын

@@raphaelhanna8345 Jango's cloth neck collar wouldn't have been made of Beskar only his plates, hence why Windu could easily decapitate him. Supercommando style armor has many weak points not covered by plates to allow movement, its possible lightsaber blows and blaster shots could get in between the plates. It's also possible that some of those lesser Mandalorian soldiers seen in the Open Seasons comics weren't wearing Beskar but that dursasteel composite armor that Boba wore later in his life that I mentioned earlier. You have to take into account sustained fire as well, Beskar armor is a great form of protection but if your taking constant fire or multiple slashes with a lightsaber, it won't protect you forever. Sooner or later a shot will get through one of the gaps or consistent blows from a lightsaber will degrade the material eventually. Keep in mind, its lightsaber resistant, not lightsaber proof. Another thing you have to take into account is, when I say "Beskar'gam" in these videos, I'm not always referring to pure Beskar, because the Mandoa word for armor is Beskar'gam, regardless if it's actually comprised of Beskar or not. Beskar is just the Mandoa word for "iron" and in Mandoa, the word "armor" directly translates to "iron skin" hence "beskar'gam" if that makes any sense. As I said above, I'm not entirely sure if Jango's armor was made of actual Beskar, only that I *think* I remember him blocking lightsaber blows with his gauntlets in Open Seasons which would lead me to belive that it was at least partially made of Beskar. So when I talk about his "beskar'gam" I'm just saying "armor". Since my character of Tadd Lar'ken is a Mandalorian himself and these videos are done from the perspective of this character narrating this information to you, I have him throw in a couple of Mandoa terms when he speaks as if the character speaking to you as he would a being from his own galaxy. I will also clarify that while Beskar was rare at the time of the prequel trilogy, it wasn't completely depleted. When the Empire enslaved the Mandalorians they had them mine Beskar because they wanted to armor special stormtroopers and special transport ships to be able to take on and contain Jedi during the Purge (like the Lictor Class Dungeon Ship that Luke is transported to Byss on in Dark Empire), they failed though because they weren't able to replicate the forging process that gives Beskar it's sought after lightsaber resistant qualities; only Mandalorian armor smiths themselves knew the secrets to forging it. By the time of ROTJ, the known Beskar mines were dried up and it wasn't until after the Battle of Mandalore during the Yuuzahn Vong War that more Beskar veins were Discoverd in the crater holes from their bombardment of the world.

@raphaelhanna8345

3 жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE okay thank you i appreciate this and will take this into consideration for my own star wars fan stories and thank you very much for clearing this up i appreciate it you're awesome and i love your channel

And in the new canon Mandalore was in ruins and millions of people died

Did THE Boba Fett "son" of Jango Fett rule Mandalore and fight the Yuuzhan Vong or am I going insane?

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

You are correcr. Boba Fett becomes Mandalore later in his life and rebuilds the Mandalorian protectors to fight thw yuuzahn vong. More about that will be explained whenever i do a Boba Fett biography

@flacoche9327

5 жыл бұрын

Manda-LORE can’t wait for the biography! Thanks!

The title of mandalor

cool

2:44 From where is this?

Oya Manda!

2008 TCW isnt canon so lets not discuss it's existence ever again.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

Fair enough haha

Ya know what I call the clones the sons of fett

Better. It was better

You could just ignored TCW if you want man. The thing about legends is that is was very loose canon, so one could ignored the old marvel comics it they don't like those stories or ignored the 03 CW series if they like books. For me Clone Wars in Legends is just the 03 and 08 series and that's it.

@Manda-LORE

5 жыл бұрын

You are partially correct. The old canon had a hierarchy system in place, consisting of G canon, C canon, S canon, and non canon. The old marvel comics were apart of the S canon or secondary canon slot which basically meant anything that fits within the continuity (C canon) fits, anything that doesn't, doesn't. TCW was T canon which was below G canon (the movies) and above C canon (continuity canon, IE the rest of the EU) so it basically overwrote anything that wasn't G canon (and even contradicted G canon at times). The problem with TCW in Legends stems from the fact that no "official" Clone wars time line apart for the established Clone Wars Multi-media project timeline (IE the clone wars books, comics, games, and the 03 series that came before TCW) was ever established before the reboot. leaving it an absolute mess with source books trying to haphazardly explain the mess. Other lore channels, when talking about Legends, either just follow the TCW events or try to integrate it. I for the most part ignore it completely because my philosophy on Legends videos is that when someone watches a Legends video, they want to know what came before the current canon, which TCW is apart of. However, I only brought attention to it this time because I was inspired by a video from the Templin Institute and already went through the effort of making graphics and effects. Whatever backlash I receive from this video, I defer to the description where I already anticipated it.

@starwars90001

5 жыл бұрын

@B Level Star Wars I have they are my favorite version of the clone wars but TCW and 03 CW out rank it because their tv shows and easier to watch.