What to know about EV battery replacement costs as BC owner shocked with $60k quote
If you are in the market for a new electric vehicle (EV), you may want to have a checklist before you enter the dealership - especially around battery replacement costs.
One B.C. EV owner was shocked when he discovered the price of replacing the battery was going to cost more than the value of the car - over $60,000.
The story was first brought to the attention of Consumer Matters by two B.C.-based auto journalists. Like many, they were stunned to learn how much an EV battery can cost to replace. Now they're sharing their findings with Global's Anne Drewa hoping to help future EV owners.
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There was a woman on the east coast who had the same thing happen shortly after, and Hyundai asked the EXACT SAME PRICE for the battery. They're liars.
Shocking news😲 I'm sure keeping my old car for now🚘
This is the case with Hyundai EVs unfortunately. I was going to buy a 2nd hand Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh from 2018. I rang up my local Hyundai dealer to find out what it would cost to replace the battery if it failed. The cost was more than the car was actually worth. That was the end of that deal. I'll stick with my Toyota hybrid. At least the replacement battery is only $1,000 and the warranty is 3 years.
@jpdoc5722
6 ай бұрын
toyota hybrids do last. most NYC & L.A. cabs are 👍
@alecfoster4413
6 ай бұрын
Wise decision.
@ilyashick3178
6 ай бұрын
Owner of AWD Lexus Hybrid 300nx from 2019. Just oli change every 7.5 k. After 40k new 4 tires and no issue at all. Thinking for buying EV but living in SWG EV's are absolute because of hurricanes.
@rogerphelps9939
6 ай бұрын
It is highly unlikely that the battery will fail. There will be some very small degradation. That is all.
@rogerphelps9939
6 ай бұрын
At $100 perkwh a new battery should not cost more than say $4000. Anything else is profiteering.
It seems like the same problem as with some printers where cartridge replacement exceeds retail value.
@wanyelandy8847
6 ай бұрын
CANNOT AGREE. Someone is confident enough to use off brand cartridge but I bet you dare not use the off brand battery. What's more such replacement battery doesn't exist.
@SylviusTheMad
6 ай бұрын
@@wanyelandy8847 Right to Repair legislation would reauire manufacturers publish the specifications for parts (including batteries), thus allowing third-party manufacture).
@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd
2 ай бұрын
@@SylviusTheMadI wouldn’t trust a 3rd party window for any of my cars let alone something which can catch on fore and doesn’t go out possibly burning me to death
Why is this only 5 hours old? There was a second incident out on the east coast weeks ago that Motormouth covered with a similar price being quoted and that owner did contact Hyundai Canada who just sent them back to the dealer.
RIGHT to repair needs to be implemented immediately - proactively. As long as the dealer is the only one that can replace the battery, the manufacters will extort, as they always do.
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
Dude... the batteries are 400v. The newer ones are 800v. You don't want to mess with that without being certified.
@alexg9727
6 ай бұрын
@@michaelbinbc lol. our power grid is 16 thousand volts under your sidewalk. Whats your point bub?
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
@@alexg9727 yeah... and those wires are insulated and isolated. When's the last time you tried fiddling with them? So... what's your point... bub?? o.O
@alexg9727
6 ай бұрын
@@michaelbinbc there are thousands and thousands of trained and qualified people to work on them. Stop trying to pretend its some kind advanced thing when lithium battery tech is decades old now
@alexg9727
6 ай бұрын
@@michaelbinbc obviously this is a problem of manufacturers not wanting to hire people and pay them properly. Kia dealerships paying tech 20 an hour. Nobody like me will want to come
Buying a new EV is one thing, but buying a used EV is a no no because in due time the battery will have to be replaced.
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
Tesla batteries are warrantied for 8 to 10 years and designed to last 15 to 20 years or a million miles so the idea batteries needs replacing is beyond ridiculous. I'm still astounded by the number of times people keep repeating this completely false claim. Battery degradation happens but just means your 350 mile range Tesla might be 310 in about 2 decades
@MelioraCogito
6 ай бұрын
@@stevenhill3136 _“Battery degradation happens but just means your 350 mile range Tesla might be 310 in about 2 decades”_ [sic] You wish… more like half the range once you've degraded your Tesla battery over 5-years by using your 240V fast-charger, as opposed to trickle-charging overnight.
@TB-up4xi
6 ай бұрын
@@MelioraCogito Not true the difference between 100% fast charging and 100% slow charging is minimal - proven many times, but you will need 3 to 4 motor replacements at around $3k each for that 1million miles, if you have degraded your battery over 5 years the manufacturer will give you a new one (refurbished anyway) as it is still within the 8 year warranty period. And why did you put "[sic]" in brackets behind the quote? [sic] informs the reader that you are aware of a grammatical or spelling error but are repeating the original quote intentionally with the error, it should be placed directly after this misspelt word or error and within the quote.
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
@@TB-up4xi Battery AND drivetrain designed to last a million miles for Teslas with 2170 barreries or 2018 and newer cars. Many have 300k+ miles and running strong. Even older Model S's still on the road with original motors. On 3 motor replacements is absolute nonsense. Exceptions maybe but not the norm
@rogerphelps9939
6 ай бұрын
No it won't. It will last longer than the car.
The depreciation cost that EV owners are facing is staggering.
@wazup3333
6 ай бұрын
The depreciation doesn't matter, what matters is how long the vehicle will last, and evs do not last like combinational engines because of battery deterioration
@raymondleury8334
6 ай бұрын
@@wazup3333 I've just traded in a 2013 EV that had 315,000km and was still going strong. EVs actually have better resale value than ICE vehicles.
@wazup3333
6 ай бұрын
@@raymondleury8334 ice vehicles last longer
@Melkor54
6 ай бұрын
no, they dont@@wazup3333
@johnwang9914
6 ай бұрын
Pricing is determined by speculation. People do not have confidence in second hand EV's yet so their pricing is low but this also means that second hand EV's are uniquely affordable and quite the bargain. Of course, there will be EV's where the battery pack was well treated with mostly slow recharges up to 80% and few full charges and there will be EV's where the batteries were topped off to 100% every night and recharged quickly at DC fast chargers often hence burning out the battery pack. The GM Bolt battery recall cited three different manufacturing flaws in the battery packs so clearly there will be good battery packs and lemons. However as with ICE vehicles, you have a better opportunity to inspect the vehicle to be purchased for problems then you do with purchasing a new vehicle. Hopefully, companies such as Ample will also offer you affordable options to replace the factory battery pack at which point EV's could end up with much better resale value in the long run. As the Nissan Leaf has been around a long time, third party refurbishing of it's battery pack has become common and the detractor from second hand Leaf's are just the Chademo power receptacle not being supported at many DC fast chargers, of course for daily commutes, fast charging is not advisable anyways so purchasing a second hand Nissan Leaf has repeatedly been proven as a wise economic choice though not much of a bragging right. It is interesting that most of the videos of Ample battery swapping are of Nissan Leaf's refitted with Ample battery modules.
That’s just dumb. Thank you for letting us know ✌🏻
@speciallevo3170
6 ай бұрын
Here is a tip. When they call something rare earth elements. They are rare. Rare things cost more as they become more rare.
@Blackfaced
6 ай бұрын
You're just figuring this out now?
Everyone knew from the start batteries were very expensive.
@MelioraCogito
6 ай бұрын
Honda replacement battery costs are below 10k$. With a 5-10 year lifecycle between battery replacement (you shorten your battery's lifecycle by using 240V fast-chargers over 120V trickle-chargers), there should be no reason you can't squirrel away a portion of that 100$+ a week you save, by not having to fill-up your car over 5-10-years, to cover that replacement cost. Hyundai is gouging its customers, because it can.
@johnwang9914
6 ай бұрын
That's actually not entirely true, it is usually only one cell that impairs the entire battery pack. It is the auto manufacturers that wants you to replace the entire vehicle instead of refurbishing or replacing the battery pack. The first generation of Toyota Prius in North America had battery pack replacements quoted as $20,000 by dealers but DIY'ers found that the battery pack was built of NiMH D cells and using a voltmeter, the failed cell could be found and you could replace the cell with a soldering iron for as little as $12. Since then, not only did auto manufacturers move to proprietary physical formats instead of standardized formats which could be purchased by third parties (forcing third parties to use salvaged battery packs from the scrap yard) but they programmed the battery management units to brick the vehicle should the voltage of any module change suddenly as in the battery being replaced hence third parties who replace batteries are forced to hack the DMS and or drain the replacement batteries to match the voltage of the failed cell. The battery packs are only expensive to repair because the auto manufacturers wants you to purchase a new vehicle instead of repairing it. We need the right to repair legislations and such legislation needs to not be tainted by the industry as the airline passenger rights legislation have been. Our government representatives must be clearly told that we will not tolerate their collusions with their corporate donors anymore.
@theodorehaskins3756
6 ай бұрын
So did you guys listen to what Hyundai supposedly said about that quote on replacing the battery?
@trev1037
6 ай бұрын
@@johnwang9914 You do know that a lot of the legacy companies making EVs can't actually replace modules in the battery? Either not enough staff, equipment or they just can't because of the way it's designed so they force people to replace the whole battery. Tesla doesn't do that, just get one of those or a Toyota PHEV; problem solved.
@johnwang9914
6 ай бұрын
@@trev1037 If you look at the Leaf battery pack. It is designed to have modules of four pouch cells replaced and indeed their internal maintenance manuals include procedures for doing so. Yet the battery management system of the Nissan Leaf will brick the car if the voltage of any module change dramatically and there is no factory reset that would allow it to rediscover the battery pack as if it was all just installed. At some point, the decision to make the battery pack difficult to refurbish was made. Sure there are other issues such as there are a lot of cells hence labour intensive which is why GM's original intent to only replace failed cells in the Chevy Bolt failed and they had to revert to replacing the entire battery pack on their recall and of course as the batteries physical formats are not industry standards, replacements may not be available which is why GM ended the supply of spare parts for the Spark EV five years before the warranties expired as replacement parts were just no longer available. It is still clear that at some point, the decision to not make the battery packs easy to refurbish and repair was made and it's not just due to lack or personnel and replacement parts though those issues does exist. Note industry standards would help make replacement parts available... As to your hero worship of Tesla. Tesla is the main reason why auto manufacturers believe they can lock you into proprietary ecosystems and subscriptions. Tesla is the disruptive newcomer and we should appreciate the disruption they have provided as it forced the traditional manufacturers from just shelving their EV technology but Tesla still has many failings, for example the airflow path for the model 3 HVAC has areas where standing water can collect such that there are now Model 3's with difficult to address odour problems. Choosing a Tesla is not a cure all though we certainly hope they will get better over time but you can expect Tesla to increasingly get as greedy as the traditional auto manufacturers and much of the inroads into subscription services was started by Tesla.
Saving the planet one battery at a time...
@motoarzan791
6 ай бұрын
You mean batteries that can be recycled vs 1 time used oil. LOL. Batteries are shredded, melted down and the different layers of 99.9% pure refined elemental material skimmed off and re manufactured into new batteries over and over and over and over and over again. Versus the energy to mine, refine, transport oil and then burn it for a one time use dumping it into the atmosphere to float around forever.
Stunned to learn?? This was well known and known the price was on the rise. Why do you think they call them rare earth elements?
@Blackfaced
6 ай бұрын
Rare like.common sense 😊
@motoarzan791
6 ай бұрын
You should be stunned to learn this was actually a case of a "dealership" committing fraud.
It’s nice to see the news showing the real side of these EV vehicles
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
You’re hearing the opposite of the real side of EV ownership from the media. Real side is 300 miles for just $6.00 of electricity on a 500hp car and no maintenance. Yeah EVs are awful lol
@kurtissmith4555
6 ай бұрын
No maintenance? 😂😂 ur funny
@Jusumoner1
6 ай бұрын
@@kurtissmith4555 I know right, suck that I have my EV for 8 years at 180k miles now with original brakes, maintenance = cabin filters/tires and 0 battery problems. The news really do tell the real side of EV 🤣
@johnwang9914
6 ай бұрын
More like the real side of the auto manufacturers. They don't want you owning vehicles that can be repaired indefinitely, they would rather you just pay a subscription. EV's are just their new products and an opportunity to force more dependence on the auto manufacturers.
@wazup3333
6 ай бұрын
@@Jusumoner1 8 years is nothing compared to combustion engines
The financial risk of owning an EV is far too high for what its worth
@wazup3333
6 ай бұрын
Exactly, This guy gets it
@jayko23
6 ай бұрын
True . Ive been considering switching my EV while its still under warranty.
@motoarzan791
6 ай бұрын
Good thing the actuary and statistical chance of a battery failing is even lower than the chance of your transmission or engine completely failing and needing full replacement. Why are you personally taking even more risk owning a gas engine car aren't you worried about an expensive engine or transmission replacement???
This makes the government and its agendas look even more disastrous 😂😂😂😂
@linhluong9250
6 ай бұрын
Yes stephen guilbalt and the Liberals are really proud of this 61,000$ a battery replacement and they want us all to buy one by the year of 2035!
@checory
6 ай бұрын
yeah because if something is already good, then people themselves will flock to it automatically. so why force it onto people and say all new cars will be EV by 2035? it's because EVs are not that good
@charlenefrench5404
6 ай бұрын
@@checory the taxpayers are also paying for all the EV battery manufacturing companies too!
@wc4109
6 ай бұрын
If lawmakers want us all to drive EVs only by 2035, then all lawmakers should themselves drive EVs by 2030… then they’ll know if this is feasible or practical…
@RodBatten
6 ай бұрын
@@wc4109 Why wait until 2030? Force every politician who backed this 2035 deadline purchase an EV right now. On their own dime, just like every Canadian taxpayer will have to do in the next 10 years.
EVs are so bad for the environment!
$60,000 for a new battery? Think of how much money he'll save on fuel. 🤣
haha! 😂 This is why you should never buy Version 1 of ANYTHING.
This is the 4th similar story and the reason why 2035 is idiotic. There's no way the battery technology and cost is ready.
These are the things that you don't usually hear about electric vehicles. All of the advertising on TV makes them sound like the best thing.
@-V-K-
6 ай бұрын
Then there is the very toxic uncontrollable fires . BYD has high fire danger. Burned down dealerships in China . two dealerships burned down in Dec last year. as well as car transporter vessels
I knew this would be a problem years ago, when the government push these ideas through at a fast rate you know it's wrong.
@motoarzan791
6 ай бұрын
You sure did get that one right. Hears one news story and claims victory. LOL. What about the 5million EV's that Tesla has sold over the past 10yrs with very, very few battery failures. Many going strong even after 400k, 500k "miles".
No visible damage yet requires battery replacement is nonsense
@Mariobrownio1989
6 ай бұрын
The dealership is afraid of any liability if the battery later catches fire or explodes. Better just quote for a replacement so the dealership is safe, and just screw the customer
What kind of fool would buy an electric car in the first place ?
Insurance costs for these things is going to skyrocket. Factor in the huge depreciation costs and I think I'll pass on E.V,s. Also the constant range anxiety is something I'm not going to put up with.
@rogerphelps9939
6 ай бұрын
Wrong. I bought a Skoda Enyaq last February and the quote for next year has hardly gone up at all. More disinformation from the fossil fuel industry.
60k for Ioniq is hilarious. Owners all going to cry in media to get free batteries. Definitely won’t get a free one for Ioniq 5.
Biggest joke ever... haa...I'm feeling happy today... because I decided to go with the Honda Accord hybrid 2022... instead of this junk... which belongs to the junkyard
I don’t understand why anyone would buy an EV vehicle versus a plug in hybrid. The hybrid battery is a well established technology and proven to be reliable and cost effective. And no range anxiety.
@zenden9
6 ай бұрын
Becos its not environmental friendly. You still burn dirty fossil fuel. The earth is sick, We need eveyrbody to do their part to save the earth.
Must be bad luck had my bmw i3 full EV from 2015 battery still going strong only issue was replacing the smaller battery under the hood that all cars have and that was about 190$.. 2015-2024 🎉
@dougabbott8261
6 ай бұрын
Amazing how many people believe the battery will need to be replaced after 5 years.
Hopefully the insurers are charging the necessary premium to cover these extremely high potential costs of things like battery replacement. As a non EV owner, I do not want to be subsidizing the insurance costs for those that do own EV’s. It’s quite clear, Why would anyone purchase a used EV more than a couple of years old? They’d be potentially incurring the outsized risk of the battery replacement cost!
Thanks Global News. I now know to stay away from buying EVs for the time being. Internal Combustion Engine vehicles is the way to go for my next car.
Well, in your segment about an Ontario man being quoted $50k to replace a Hyundai battery 2 months ago, you quoted the Hyundai Canada representative as saying that cost was not correct, and it was the dealership overcharging him.
@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
6 ай бұрын
Yep. Hyundai lied.
@wanyelandy8847
6 ай бұрын
In the news of 2nd case, multiple deals said the price of $56,000 is by Hyundai itself as no one else can provide the part. In addition, car owners have to talk to dealers instead of Hyundai as Hyundai refer them back to dealers if Hyundai are being contacted by the owners for further fixing info.
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
@@wanyelandy8847 I just did a Google, and it seems Hyundai does charge more for their batteries. Tesla's cost between $5-20K. Also during my Google, I came across another article on this story... he was originally quoted at $30K in the Richmond dealership. It also said the car was damaged, so his warranty was void... or he would gave had the battery replaced for free. He tried asking ICBC if his insurance would cover some of it, but a few days later they called him back with the $60K quote... $50K plus installation ond taxes. But... it was from another dealership in Vancouver, not the original dealership in Richmond who quoted $30K. "Vancouver EV owner shares cautionary tale after car deemed 'total loss'" - City News, December 11, 2023.
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
@@wanyelandy8847The original quote was $30K from the dealership in Richmond. The car had damage, so the warranty was void a few years early, or it would have been replaced for free. He tried seeing if his insurance would cover some of it, but ICBC calls him back saying it's $60K, and from the Vancouver dealership. Sounds pretty fishy to me.
What is the actual cost of the battery repalcement then! they did not specify and we're still wondering what that true cost is if there was an error
Don't buy EV..... period
I’m sure tall his euphoria and enthusiasm about electric vehicles will soon vanish not only due to the battery replacement cost nuto to the rising of the electricity demand. It won’t do any good to the environment for as many countries depend on fossil material or atomic plants to generate electricity producing indirect pollution.
@marquesjm73
6 ай бұрын
I’m sure that this**** my bad typing
Sounds like the dealership received a repairable car destined for the used car market, new car sale and free used car. win win
The EV fad will go the way of the pet rock.
@toedrag-release
6 ай бұрын
They're literally the only car that will be allowed to be sold in 2034
@ProJock
6 ай бұрын
@@toedrag-release …because no administration can change that 🙄
@toedrag-release
6 ай бұрын
@@ProJock Who's going to change it?
@ProJock
6 ай бұрын
@@toedrag-release …in my opinion…consumer demand. Canadians may be forced, but they can’t force Americans.
@toedrag-release
6 ай бұрын
@@ProJock Sure but we are talking about Dealerships in Canada literally not being legally allow to sell gas powered vehicles in 2034. I'm not saying this won't have dore effects I'm just saying this "fad" is going to be enforced by the federal government.
I used to repair brand new digital cameras. When the main processor was deemed defective,, yes, we could replace the processor without a guarantees that it would work after replacing so the call was to replace the camera itself. The cost of the processor was 60% of the camera cost.
I was waiting for my Ioniq 5 for 1.5 years and just cancelled my reservation because of the cost of battery replacement $62K
You’d think there would be a thick skid plate under the battery...
Hyundai Canada corrected the "system problem," so how much is battery now ?
😅 ev's . . . Extremely volatile!
they keep telling you that you'd save a lot of gas money by going electric. Then forget about the higher electric car costs, then the higher insurance cost. "Electric cars have no maintenance costs" but a slight bump to your car may write it off completely. So much for "going environmental"
@aarn7397
6 ай бұрын
This is also Hyundai we're talking about, who along with Kia cheaped out by not putting in immobilizers in most of their vehicles in the US.... Their dealerships are also notorious for being some of the worst to deal with, and pretty much why the Kia stinger failed to sell well when it was otherwise a good car in its segment.
There was a second case as well also reported by Motor Mouth in their KZread video. So, it's not an isolated incident.
My owned since new 2006 Civic has needed a new AC compressor, a new alternator, a new starter, front and rear shocks, stabilizer links, front control arm bushings, a new cruise control switch, a couple of serpentine belts, a new rear view mirror, a new fuel door release cable, one new clutch, and a new set of bearings in the transmission (manual, so not expensive). Plus all the usual regular maintenance items. I did the work myself except for the AC compressor and the transmission bearing set plus clutch, and the first 9 years of regular maintenance items (which the dealer did). Honda's service manual removes the guess work from diy repairs. I use a mix of OEM and good quality after market parts. None are too expensive. Fuel consumption today is the same as new. It drives perfectly. It's incredibly rugged and reliable. It survived four kids learning to drive manual (lots of harsh lurching starts, stalls, and bad shifts). Amortized over its whole life, it's incredibly cheap to maintain. 396k km now. It's final drive to the junk yard is on the distant horizon, probably at twenty years old, claimed by rust. It will be well past 400k km at that time and if I had done better annual rust prevention it would have lasted longer. My story is not unique. Now I ask myself, why would I ever expose myself to the uncertainty of EV battery replacement. p.s. I have an Odyssey, a bit younger, that's on a similar journey.
Not just replacement cost. What happens when winter storms down power lines? There goes your recharging.
@gusbarber00
6 ай бұрын
You understand that gas stations rely on electricity as well right?
@RUHappyATM
6 ай бұрын
@@gusbarber00 I assume you haven't heard of jerry cans.
NIO has come up with a model that has power swaps rather than EV charging which basically allows you to swap batteries in 5 minutes and is actually cost effective. Doubt we'll ever see anything like that here.
@Timberland1963
6 ай бұрын
That’s great. They will need more batteries and do more mining and manufacturing to produce them and that’s got to be good for them environment.
@herrtichy
6 ай бұрын
@@Timberland1963Do you have some numbers on that? Feelings aren't really a great base for decisions.
@stigronnysuleskard5299
6 ай бұрын
I have a Nio ES8 and can confirm swapping works perfect. To my knowledge US market is on Nios plan for 2025
@Timberland1963
6 ай бұрын
@@herrtichy They won’t have cars without batteries sitting around so they need to produce more batteries than cars and more environmental damage to go along with them. Feelings have nothing to do with it.
@herrtichy
6 ай бұрын
@@Timberland1963 Yes, but how is the ressource use involved in that compared to other uses of the materials in a battery? Is it 20% of world use, 5%, 200%? How's the recycling quota? How much of an impact does it make overall? Maybe it's a lot, maybe it's irrelevant. Right now, for example, only 5% of the cobalt mined goes to electric vehicles, the other 95% nobody bats an eye bout that. That's what I mean by "numbers".
Ok so they said the pricing was wrong in the system but they fixed it, so how much exactly for the battery then?
@CanadianStarships
6 ай бұрын
This is what everyone is glossing over. Sensationalizing the wrong price, and hiding the fact that it was wrong in the back end of the video.
EV’s suck for this reason. I won’t buy. Lithium batteries are also dangerous. Fire prone.
If it was a Tesla the brand would be mentioned at least 10x 😂
No one wants a crappy ev truck or car or suv or crossover or anything electric in Canada.
Not sure why you'd mention a "repair" insurance. There's no repair here. I look forward to coverage of the exact same issue on the east coast.
LOL THE GOVT TRICKED YOU LOLOLOL GO GREEEEN!!!
Insurance should cover it. But someone should be able to repair part of the battery and use it for something else. No need to waste the materials. You could even use it for a home solar system.
Couldn't helpbut notice the separation between the couple and the interviewer. Also, CTV reported on part one of the story. Hyundai lied about the pricing b/c shortly afterward a Canadian on the East Coast was quoted the same price to replace her Ioniq 5 battery after hitting a piece od exhaust on the road. The dealers were merely quoting pricing given to them by Hyundai Canada,
So, the battery was "damaged" Damaged from an outside course? What was the damage? Caused by the owner? If that is the case, I understand that Hyundai is not responsible for that, then it will be an insurance matter. And the 60k pricetag was fault, the real costs were much lower. 2:30. If you destroy your fueltank of your ICE in whatever way, the manufacterer will also not replace the feul tank for free under waranty.
But the environment minister said there cheaper to run and you will save money.
This is why in 25 years there will be no such thing as a classic ev
who is the cop someone has to know him ?
Going ahead the companies should lift there "dealer fee" for these cars. We ALL know the batteries are expensive and you can't just get a new one at the local auto parts shop.
Moreover, why don't they fit a battery protection mechanism rather than a plastic cover?
@jabezhane
6 ай бұрын
The simple fact is they dont want to repair them. They dont care. They are getting paid to just churn these things out. The ultimate aim is to make car ownership so costly and miserable, we the 99% just give up and do as the 1% tell us as they drive around in their limos and fly their private jets. This is all about 'sustainability'...of the 1%'s lifestyle. Not ours.
Wow. Real Investigative Journalism. Thank you, Global News.
I see no reason to be worried about any part replacement when the warranty is 8 years. And as we know Hyundai cars, even the oldest ioniq classic 28KWH ev's , are not even these 8 years old. In other words... These showdowns about prices are not the costs of a battery replacement alone (or module from the battery). They are the total repair costs after an accident. (No warranty on accident repait costs which is obvious). As my knowledge about this case..The battere placement of this ioniq 5 is also the main frame of the car...the chassis .(EGMP platform) That was damaged including parts of the battery in it. Just show me one ICE car with a damaged chassis that is not totalled and safe on the roads. And what the repair costs are (compared to the new price). I'm sure that in the netherlands they do not repair cars with a damaged chassis.
Even smart phones, are no longer designed for the batteries to be replaced. You have to assume that the EV's are simply designed to be replaced entirely should the batteries need to be replaced. Even older EV's such as the Nissan Leaf where the modules were clearly designed to be replaceable were clearly marketed as the car to be replaced instead of refurbishing the batteries and it is only third parties that brought refurbishing Leaf batteries usually with salvaged batteries. Hopefully, companies such as Ample which plans to offer battery pack replacements that offer swappable battery modules will address this problem. Unfortunately, the lack of standardization greatly limits companies such as Ample to organizations with fleets of vehicles so our access to such conversions will be lacking for quite some time.
Engineering wise Tesla is far ahead for EV's but it is a luxury vehicle. However, the idea of electric is supposed to "save money" but actually in the end..... capitalism wins
That's dealer greed for you. New battery should have been less than $30k installed.
Talk about planned obsolescence. EV won’t happen by 2035 Never heard of an IC vehicle suffering from that
@zenden9
6 ай бұрын
The world will disappear by 2030 if we keep burning fossil fuel for ICE.
they act like: "we were shocked when we were outside in the rain and found out that it makes us wet"
You can buy 2 or 3 year old Hyundai Nexo fuel cell in California... For as low as $15,000... in case the fuel cell stack goes bad.
Buying any and all used vehicles that use dead dyno juice to fuel it
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
You’re buying a dying product who’s days are numbered. Good for you🤭
@POVwithRC
6 ай бұрын
@@stevenhill3136 Nonsense. The transition to electric is majorly astroturfed and billions of dollars in the red to pretend its working. You sneering about people holding onto ice 'because it's dying' is like claiming you won the Boston marathon because the organizers let you start eight feet before the finish line.😊
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
@@POVwithRC Just because legacy auto didn’t join the party doesn’t mean the party was cancelled. Global EV sales growing exponentially every year dominated by Tesla...then BYD a distant 2nd then other Chinese brands
@stevenhill3136
6 ай бұрын
@@POVwithRC BTW I really like getting 300 miles for just $6.00 of electricity on a 500hp car
@Blackfaced
6 ай бұрын
@stevenhill3136 the only thing dying is the charge on your EV big brain 🧠
The excuse of "a system process producing retail prices automatically, which were calculated incorrectly" & "we remedied this issue in our system" (2:31) is like White Star Line saying that steering the ship into an iceberg was incorrect & we have remedied this issue. At 3:45, his insurance rate has increased $600 "due to a variety of factors". I'm guessing the variety is a claim to total a $50k+ car. I'm really surprised the rate only went up $600, that's a very forgiving insurer.
why isn't this battery technology modular, why does the entire battery have to be replaced
Can you imagine if say 1 million EV went out of warranty and the battery's went bad after say 10 years. What happens to all those EV's that people just do not want anymore due to the cost
Someone in the game would have purchased it and removed the battery pack and replace a cell or two and sold it for a good price, the car didn't need a complete new battery pack anyway
So in a minor incident like what happened here, the vehicle is written off by the insurance company. So tell me again how EVs will save the planet. The man hit something on the Hwy and it impacted the protective plastic battery cover. Sure sounds like that battery protective cover does not do much in the way of protection. Why is it not made out of metal? If the vehicle had been a Toyota hybrid that battery pack is protected by a steel area. What does not make sense is the price the Hyundai dealer wanted to charge for the battery pack. The most powerful Tesla battery pack is around 26763.70 which is more powerful than the Hyundai battery pack. How can a Hyundai battery pack cost $50,000-$60,000?
Just my small electric bike costed me 1k in battery I can imagine why its so much for a car
Do people not ask questions before buying electric cars???
It's going to be hell when people try and repair their own battery cells because that's exactly what's going to happen, alot of burns and deaths will occur
Why is this story centered around the Spencers and their youtube channel and not the actual owner of the vehicle? It seems like they just heard about the issue and are middle men. Not great journalism in my mind.
So he was quoted a ridiculous price from one mechanic and never tried to get a second quote or talk to the dealership? Seems like anyone who is willing to advocate for themselves and put in a minimal efffort could have had a better outcome. Battery replacement prices are too damn high tho, like rent.
couple this with lack of charging infrastructure especially in rural areas and we don't have a winner in ev's
Buy a gas model Toyota, Done.
This clearly shows that governments simply mandating that all consumer vehicles should be electric by 2035, or giving tax breakers to EV or battery makers is short-sighted. They need to think long and hard about standardization, forcing EV makers to standardize parts and components like batteries, motors, charging equipment across manufacturers. You can't have a situation where every EV maker makes its own custom platform if the cost of single components like the battery is so high. Maybe battery packs need to be split up and connected in series to fit the vehicle profile, so that damage is limited to only a small part of the battery and different automakers and choose to configure the battery for each type of vehicle by simply adding smaller batteries in series. So the smaller chunked batteries can be standardized and mass-produced by multiple manufacturers and there is competition. If governments fail to protect early adopters, EVs will fail.
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
2035 is the year they stop making gas cars. It's another 10 years or so until they mandate all cars on the road must be EVs. By then batteries will be better, and prices will come down... except for inflation that is. Also... this is worldwide, not just Canada.
@porusmehta2807
6 ай бұрын
@@michaelbinbc We're not exactly seeing that. The 2022 Ioniq 5 is a new EV and yet the cost of the battery is so high partly because every battery is a custom job for the vehicle it fits into. This is where I want governance to come in and say "hey let's fix this problem now". Think ahead to the year 2030. I would love to see people driving Ioniq 5s from model year 2022 and say, "hey maintenance is a breeze, I love my old Ioniq 5, it keeps running." If you are an early adopter today, you expect that for at least a 5-6 year horizon.
@michaelbinbc
6 ай бұрын
@@porusmehta2807 2022? The warranty is 10 years or 100,000km. That's another 9 years on that warranty dude. Also, the vehicle in this story is the 2022 Ionic 5. The guy was originally quoted $30K by the dealership in Richmond, but he would have had it for free if the car wasn't damaged, voiding the warranty. It wasn't until ICBC got involved that it became $60K, at the Vancouver dealership. Somebody's scamming somewhere. Also, Hyundai seems to be expensive for batteries in general... Tesla only charges $5-20K. Out of warranty that is.
@MrDuncl
6 ай бұрын
After the Motormouth video I looked at various manufacturers videos about EVs and in most of them the batteries looked to be 8 or ten modules in one big casing.
Get a Hybrid! Most electric vehicle batteries have an estimated 1500 to 2000 charge cycles, if you charge 1-2 times a day your battery might last 4 maybe 5 years at best. If you drive a lot then you'll need a new battery every 2-3 years. A plan designed to fail!
@zenden9
6 ай бұрын
Hybrid is still a dirty car. Everybody shall do their part to save the earth.
@igortokarev2350
6 ай бұрын
@@zenden9 If you talking about saving planet - MAID program will work perfectly. EVs, hybrids and e.g. have nothing to do with 'saving planet'.
@zenden9
6 ай бұрын
@@igortokarev2350 of cos they do, personal transport is still needed and EV don't burn fossil fuels. Stop spreading false news.
Something to consider in the future.
Politicians making promises with other people's money... Your $$$$... If anyone wants $60 million in Electric buses that are broken and connected to a Bankrupt company... we have 40 sitting. 😮
How much is it to replace the battery in a Tesla?
Batteries in these Chinese 🇨🇳 electric cars come from the Xinjiang region, where they are produced by: - coal-fired plants and - Uyghur forced labor in their production.
I bet you're happy your EV is under warranty incase a problem arises with the traction motor battery. Then their authorised service agent will tell you the fault must've been caused by your incorrect charging procedure which isn't covered at all under the terms of the warranty. Then they'll advise you of their charging procedure which will be $20,000 plus dollars plus the cost of installation on top of that amount.
Don't buy an EV no matter what.
@benphotoshare6973
6 ай бұрын
Hybrid makes more cent sense.
Remember, insurances is gonna cost more for EVs than ICE vehicles.
We will all be driving horse-and-buggy again by 2035. The average middle-class family won't be able to afford to support an EV unless they are extremely lucky with accidents, road damage (our transportation infrastructure is a joke), or any miscellaneous non-warranty repair. With the battery replacement costs being so high the used car market will most likely disappear, too, you'll have to buy a new vehicle every 4-5 years. It's like if you had to replace the drivetrain in a car to resell it. Trudeau/Guilbeault have given carte blanche to auto manufacturers to fleece the public and backed them with taxpayer money to help them do it.
Just "subscribe" to an electric vehicle then.
Ol' reliable V8 strikes again
To 35k ? Really? Its a price of my new car skoda 2023 model which i bought last year.
Im glad my Chevy 2017 Bolt Battery 🔋 is only $10,000 dls plus $2,000 for labor
Ask questions? The sales associates will try what they can to sell you the car
They don't call them rare earth minerals because they're cheap and plentiful.
🍁 Not going to happen:-! 🚬💸💸💸💣AvFires🍁 🔄Mostly dirt roads in Maritimes🔄
I will never get an EV. What a waste of money.
Like McDonald's used to say: Millions screwed