Things to know about baldurs gate 1/2: Saemon Havarion WILL betray you. EVERY time.

@sebastianosuch273

Жыл бұрын

Even when he says he won’t! Remember that.

@rafaelgoncalvesdias7459

Жыл бұрын

Só LL Safana. Gladly you kill her.

@bavettesAstartes

Жыл бұрын

What? But he is such a trustworthy fellow!

@hazeem6715

Жыл бұрын

He can’t betray you if he’s dead. Well… actually dead.

@g.b.1224

Жыл бұрын

Is one of the OG Patches

Thank you so much for your work. My gaming activity peaked in 1993-2005, now I very rarely play games. It's thanks to your channel that I became acquainted with real gaming masterpieces. Our tastes are very similar, so I trust your reviews. Thank you for such high quality content.

@CringeLord0119

Жыл бұрын

Im 23, but I adore games from that era and have been playing Diablo 1 and 2 for some time now. I’m sorry that gaming now a days is as corporate as it is but projects like this game and divinity OS and stuff like wasteland 3 are great examples of passionate project that capture some of that feeling of playing games like back then. What are your favorites from back in the day?

@Sonmz

Жыл бұрын

@@CringeLord0119 Hi! I really liked the two genres of games: adventure (quests) and, as you can not hard to guess RPG. Of the first genre I liked most games by Sierra. My favorites were Quest for Glory, Police Quest, Space Quest and my absolute favorite game is Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers. As for RPGs, I've played and loved a huge number of them. My favorites are: The Dungeon Master 2, Might&Magic (parts 6 and 7), Ultima 6-8, Fallout 1 and 2, both parts of IcewindDale (although they are "linear") Diablo 1, BG 1-2, Planescape: Torment. Of the new ones, I will highlight Wasteland 2 & 3, Tyranny, Divinity OS 1 & 2, Mutant Year Zero & Miasma Chronicles. Of those, the absolute favorite is Wasteland 3. It has all the best of both the old games world and the virtues of modern game dev.

@Sonmz

Жыл бұрын

@@breaddough-vk8gf Thanks for your advice!!! Yah, I hate the expression "toxic" as it has been greatly abused in recent years, but as applied to online/multiplayer games it is the best term. You're right in that there is a resurgence of the genre right now, which makes me very happy. So I'm slowly getting back to doing what I loved in the past - CRPG gaming.😉

@Runk3lsmcdougal

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@itgbeatmakerz3709

11 ай бұрын

Divinity os 2, wasteland 3, and pathfinder wotr. Play them, you won't regret. Of course the king of these games will drop soon 😂 (baldurs gate 3)

One thing I've been continuously impressed by the BG3 early access is how in tune they are with the often muddled recent lore of the Realms like the events of the Second Sundering and the return of various divinities. I can't wait to see what else they choose to explore.

@TheSacredCowtipper88

Жыл бұрын

Didn't they ban half races and orcs recently in the lore? Wotc is a bit of joke lol

@NaptownClassic

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheSacredCowtipper88 That is only a very "surface reading" understanding of what they did with half-"races". Nothing was "banned", you can still play a character who has parents of two different species. You pick a parent's species to derive your stats. They aren't calling them "half-" anything any more. You are still 100% free to roleplay and let anyone who gives a shit, know that your mom was an elf and your dad was a human. Orcs are still a playable species. The biggest joke is that people are so confident that they understand what has changed, hate it, talk mad shit about it, and have 99% of their facts about it, wrong.

@petrasbirthdaygoblinhoney4565

5 ай бұрын

@@NaptownClassichonestly the change is mostly good The one thing I don’t like is that the stats only come from one of your parents, would be far more interesting if you got a bit of both

This is exactly the kind of recap i wanted - just enough context to understand broadly whats going on, kinda what you would expect the BG3 protagonist to be aware of.

Baldur's Gate 3 is one of my most hyped games of the year. Larian are such amazing devs. The amount of work and love that's gone into BG3 is absolutely insane and it shows.

@pythonxz

Жыл бұрын

I'm so excited to play the Spore Druid. I'm also really new to D&D so this will be like diving into an uncharted ocean. Knowing Larian, the classes are going to heavily reflect their pen and paper counterparts.

@Blasted2Oblivion

Жыл бұрын

I find it interesting that it comes to PS5 on the same day as Starfield comes to Xbox. Almost like they want to see how it competes.

@pythonxz

Жыл бұрын

@@SCDJMU I mean, it's not real time with pause. What else would it need?

@Hexentric8

Жыл бұрын

@@SCDJMU in your opinion

@joevahkiin2329

Жыл бұрын

I havent played BG 1 & 2 and never played D&D either, but i cant wait for the full version of BG3. I have over 60h rn in the early access. Havent been hyped for a game for a few years.

This fantastic recap got me uber hyped for BG3! And I was hyped to begin with, both BG1 & 2 are the main reason why I went into RPGs (and never left), and I got BG3 pre-ordered the first day it became available. 😎

Another companion from the previous Baldur's Gate games who may well be relevant is Viconia DeVir. As a Drow, she is quite capable of living through the timeskip and like Shadowheart, she is a priestess of Shar. This is unlikely to be a coincidence.

@Dermetsu

Жыл бұрын

I hope she makes it into the game.

@LightStreak567

Жыл бұрын

​@@DermetsuNot with Lolth the Spider Queen hunting for her head. A lot of Viconia fans CONSTANTLY forget that throughout Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 she is a woman marked for death by the Spider Queen. There's no way she can possibly be in Baldur's Gate 3.

@richardkenan2891

Жыл бұрын

​@@LightStreak567just because Lolth wants Viconia dead does not mean she will get it. Sure, Viconia does not have Drizzt levels of plot armor, but Lolth still fails to get what she wants very often. She's only the ruling power among the dark elves of the underdark. Everywhere else she's just another evil outer planes being. I doubt Viconia is in BG3, and she may well be dead by this point, but "Lolth wants her dead" is nowhere near a proof that she is actually dead.

@LightStreak567

Жыл бұрын

@@richardkenan2891 You say that like she has a chance to live despite being marked for death. The reason why Drizzt hasn't been killed yet is because his actions create chaos, and Lolth LOVES chaos. Plus, he is surrounded by friends who will fight to the death for him. If you don't romance Viconia, she has no one like that, and that makes her vulnerable.

@hanli5416

Жыл бұрын

Actually if she is your main love interest her epilogue in tob is her getting killed and leaving you widowed with her child. Assuming you. Convinced her to stick and fully stay romanced with you.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! I've seen others that are either too long or the short ones condense it too much without explaining what effect this will have on BG3. Like I saw multiple videos and none of them explained that the god of murder was resurrected 10 years prior, that seems so vitally important so I'm glad you really did give us the spark notes version of things.

My coworker bought BG3 and peaked my interest as a player of BG1&2. Mortismal Gaming reminded me of my gaming past and now I must save Boo or lead the space hamster to ruin (probably both). Thank you for my bringing back my loving memories!

Appreciate the recap Mort, its been well over a decade since i played BG2 so i barely remember what the heck happened. Thanks for the fun vid 👍

Never played a lick of dnd in my life. Don't know why yt pushing bg3 content on me now but watched a few of those char create tips and tricks videos. Wondered what 1 n 2 were, this is a very good explanation. So from this story, I take it the dark urge origin IS bhaal/ last bhaalspawn.

Within a few months this channel has become my favorite games review site. Thanks for this summary - it is just what I wanted!

Thanks for the history lesson, which is very much appreciated as I never played BG1 and 2. But I am looking forward to playing BG3

This is an appropriately-lengthed and useful recap vid! I played BG1 and BG2, and some expansion things for those when they came out. I recall nothing other than "Go for eyes, Boo!" which I assume was repeated endlessly. Something something lord of murder does sound vaguely familiar. I think I paid more attention to this overview than the original games stories. Maybe. Anyway, thanks!

I've watched so many explanations of the previous games and it sounds like they are reading a wiki page. You present the info clear way easily understood. Thanks!

Love those lore videos. Keep it coming please!

Thank you, I needed this!

I DMed Descent into Avernus almost two years ago. Really looking forward to seeing the connections to that adventure in the game.

Launching BG3 now. thanks for the video.

I am unbelievably pumped for this game

Appreciate the recap. 😊

Thank you for the catch up!

Awesome breakdown! I can’t explain how excited I am to dive into this game and this was a really handy run through for of some main historical points before release.

Crazy, was watching a BG2 playthrough and thought to myself "hmm, maybe I should look up a synopsis of the events prior to BG3" and the very moment I think that - I see this video in my sidebar. Love your content mate!

Great information, I needed this, thank you!

Thanks for this! I’m a newbie to this series, so this was very helpful!

Thank you for this. I never knew but i will be playing 3

Very useful Mortis. Thank you sir!

This was needed. Will definitely enjoy BG3 more fully.

Thank you for the round up.

Perfect video as I was worried about not knowing anything but did not want to open that can of worms. Thanks!

Thank you for this guide!

Awesome video. I was aware of most of it, but I had no idea that the protagonist of BG 1 and 2 lived so long and ruled Baldur's Gate, nor the stuff about Ravengard.

I just bought the game and I'm really excited for release. I'm playing a bit of early access now, but I don't think I'll get TOO deep into it until 1.0. This video was GREAT information! I have never played a BG game before (even though I'm old enough that I could have played them when they first came out, but alas...) so I appreciate the back story. I'm excited to see where this story goes!

@snickle1980

Жыл бұрын

Say hi to Minsc and boo for me. Fav character. Perhaps in any game. And TBH...I've Never _finished a Baldurs gate game_ but i loved 2.

so excited for BG3, a game I've been waiting 20 years for.

Thank you so much for all your fantastic content, I've been playing games since we first got a Sinclair ZX81 and my all time favourite games are Laser Squad, Dungeon Master and Speedball 2.Ive been stuck in a TES/Fallout loop for so long however due to your reviews and recommendations im back into playing the games i really love. Unfortunately it has to be Starfield before BG3,a tough call but i dont have the hardware for BG3 right now😢 anyway thank you again so much because of you i really do Wander In Wisdom.

@cyrieldeneve8522

Жыл бұрын

Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe. Loved that game!

Never played Baldurs Gate so thanks for this video. Very useful

Clear and concise, as usual. As someone who has played BG1 and 2, this was a nice refresher. Thanks!

good content, keep it up! subscribed!

I just rewatched supercut 1 yesterday and am going to watch supercut 2 today. You read my mind

There's also a connection to Bhaal through Jergal in BG3. Jergal - The Scribe of the Dead - was the god that the Dead Three got their godhood from. He was essentially the god of ending and death before the Dead Three took three of that's essence for themselves. You find signs of Jergal very early on in the game, which makes me think he might play a bigger part in the story as well. "The Legend of Knuckebones, Skull Bowling and the Empty Throne" is a great short read in the Sword Coast Adventurers guide, which sheds light on this fascinating fellow.

My former DnD group have a whole followup lore to the ressurgence of Bhaal, involving a spell jammer being the catalyst of a ritual that made the three most powerfull metal dragons into dracoliches and mounts to the three most powerfull players at the time that became NPCs and chosen of Bhaal. A;; that in a massive war involving the rashemi and the "bone horde" summoned by the red mages of thay. I miss playing DnD so much.

Awesome video thank you

There is a fun little thing. BG3 has a pretty clear mindflayer connection but BG 1 and 2 also have a smaller (id go as far as not directly stated) connection as well. You run into mindflayers more than a few times and, almost every time, it is in a situation that is at least tangentially related to the Baahlspawn. Even so far as the lair where the cult you were rescued from as a child being under the direct control of a mindflayer from (if I remember right) a crashed mindflayer ship under the temple(so its been there a bit).

@pervognsen_bitwise

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if you remember the mind flayer in BG 2 in Jan Jansen's personal quest line, but it's one of my favorite bits of subtle storytelling in the game. It very effectively insinuates to the player that mind flayers could be pulling the strings from the shadows in all kinds of affairs and conspiracies. It's a lot more effective as a storytelling device than having an enclave with a bunch of mind flayers you have to fight like in the Alhoon lair.

@MortismalGaming

Жыл бұрын

I talked about that in a video quite some time ago actually, mindflayers pop up in the periphery of the previous two games constantly even in Dragonspear when Beamdog were trying to get the BG3 license themselves. Beyond just being odd though, it's hard to give that any clear purpose or intent which is why I didn't bring it up here.

I love this game. I always restart briefly after hitting lvl 5 and before I go to the Underdark simply because I think, "Hmm, I rly wanna play a different class." I love the class diversity in this game. Edit: There's so many things I wish to be in this game but a big one has to be group ability checks. Even if I fail a check, my party should all roll as well to see if one of them succeed. Seriously, how does that tiefling kid pickpocket me without being seen when I have 3 companions behind me? Lol.

@zalamander5974

Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting idea, and I see your point. But I think it would be kind of weird if it was in the game, if you can just reroof every ability check you fail 3 times you would never lose any ability checks

So hyped for BG3. Still cannot decide between Paladin of some kind, or Tempest Cleric.

@akale2620

10 ай бұрын

From what I gather, you should go devotion paladin as dark urge origin and give in to those urges and kill everyone to turn oathbreaker. If I had a computer that's what I'd play as.

as someone who has played all the bg games at least once every year since their release, this exites me to no end.

I'm old now, so I forgot almost everything that happened in Baldur's Gate 1&2. Appreciate the recap.

Love your channel......i feel sufficiently caught up for bg3 haha

Thanks for this! I honestly didn't enjoy the RTWP in BG1 or 2, so I never finished them.

@neurolancer81

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Got the games when they released and still have the discs. Cannot get myself to do that RTwP nonsense. I stayed away from Pillars of Eternity for the same reason.

Suddenly, the dark urge seems way more interesting. Thanks for the video!

No joke, I am about 1 hour into your super cut story of BG1. And now this gem of a video drops. You sir are a mind reader! Love your content friend 😊

@_george84

Жыл бұрын

Haha I know what you mean! I just finished that BG1 video this last weekened!

@danboyd6180

Жыл бұрын

He is really good at tapping the ziegiest of the day. I agree it’s unsettling

Watching this makes me wonder if the new "dark urge" origin in Baldurs Gate 3 is actually playing as a child of Bal since you have this strong urge to murder etc.

Everything I needed to know - in 12 minutes.

If you read the many books lying around everywhere you can find a ton of lore about the past, the gods, all kinds of stuff that some have glimpse about previous games as well.

Awesome. Thanks =)

This is the kind of spicy content I am looking for.

Thanks for doing this. I've been bothered by this question for a whole year. I played all of bg1 and halfway through bg2 to try to prepare myself for bg3. Lol.

Thank you.

Ooooh. My bet is that the "Dark Urge" origin character is actually a mortal version of Bhaal

Love your channel, Mort. That companion spoiler was brutal, however.

@MortismalGaming

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I wouldn't really consider official marketing spoilers though.

@sammyflowproductions933

Жыл бұрын

@@MortismalGamingOh! I had no idea. Sorry... I've been so spoiler shy I hadn't even seen the official marketing.

Basic knowledge of the pantheon will also help. Especially Shar.

Ok after that summary of Baals freed soul and the arc of the 1st and 2nd game, my money is on that the "Dark Urge" origin character they revealed in the last stream might be related to that, either directly or indirectly.

I put about 30hrs into EA on BG3 before I uninstalled in and waited patiently. I know they have added so much in early access, but I really didn’t want to spoil the experience by replaying the early game until it was stale…that was 2 years ago lol. It was quite the wait, but I’d rather Larian be confident, then get an unfinished or unpolished experience:) Can’t wait to play

I am so ready to play this game. I might die of anticipation.... the irony.

I’m getting ready to buy it next week hopefully lol

Nice breakdown man, as I haven't played BG1/2, i was curious as to how they could tie in to BG3.

Oh God. You saying the word "spark notes " caused me intense flashbacks to late elementary school/early highschool.

@MortismalGaming

Жыл бұрын

Showed my own age a bit with that one

The context of this video with the panel from hell about the last orgin character... *interesting whom* this origin character could be...

ive played baldurs 1,2 neverwinter 1,2 icewind 1,2 read about 70 forgotten realms books, but all that probably 9 and more years ago, so lets watch

awesome !!!

In the second D&D movie Wrath of the Dragon God they make reference to Descent into Avernus.... it a small mention in passing.... but still got a kick out of it. ;)

Neverwinter Nights was my first game of this ilk. I have wanted to get into BG so many times but just couldn't. Its age doesn't have the luxury of nostalgia for me to push through, unlike NWN for me. I'll no doubt try again before BG3s launch. But I really appreciate this nevertheless.

At least now the teaser for Minsc in the Game Awards Trailer makes sense to me, i noticed how his teaser was some kind of hint to someone known, but i thought that might be something you can get from playing the early access version and not a hint to the previous games xD but that is much more cooler that way, not that it makes any difference for me now really, but still i can value this more than before that knowledge

Thanks morty

I never played the first 2 games, but I am very much looking forward to playing BG3 before I get into Starfield.

@beardedchampion4321

Жыл бұрын

You've got 1 month to play them then! Currently £5 on steam and you won't regret it, I promise! Fucking amazing games!

@antonego9581

Жыл бұрын

@@beardedchampion4321 probably better off playing Divinity Original Sin 2 in preparation though as BG3 bears virtually zero resemblance to the old games in terms of gameplay mechanics

@beardedchampion4321

Жыл бұрын

@@antonego9581 Respectfully, I don't agree, D:OS2 isn't D&D and has its own rules. BG 1, 2, and 3 are based on the same ruleset.....give or take the different editions. It is a great game though, I agree, and well worth playing, but I think mostly the only thing it has in common is the engine and the verticality mechanics. I personally think you would get more out of playing BG 1 and 2........if only to get to know Minsc and Boo 😊

This was very informative thanks. I did not think that they would feature so many of the characters and spin-off events from the previous games. I had heard that the Avernus module would be critical to Baldur's Gate 3, so this was good to know.

Ty for the refresher Mort! It's been 25 years since I played BG1 and forgot a lot of the story.

Please continue doing lore and story videos

It's amazing, how we share a birthdate and also, how it feels like you read my mind, on what I would love to see. amazing channel. You deserve all the praise you get. I hope to be around, when you reach a well deserved millions subs/views.

There are ofc copious amounts of Forgotten Realms lore/info, including BG games but also better explaining overall multiverse lore from other canon sources, at the fan supported wikis. FR has something like 45 years or more of real world development so that rabbit hole goes pretty deep.

Decent was the first module I got to play all the way trough. Guess my character return to action.

honestly, best info video out of all the bg3 content, even bg3 only KZreadrs,you're not just reading a Wikipedia paragraph and calling it a day you're actually explaining stuff, would love more vids like this

@Dovadweebs

Жыл бұрын

Daddy Wolfheartfps?

bg3 is tsundere heaven. shadowheart, the gith chick. now Jaheira. cant wait

Good show sir

In reference to vague protag - they could always ref it the way dragon age does - ambiguous but the keep kinda tell ya details more so.

Im sure BG3 will be an excellent game but it has a lot to live up to with BG1 and 2 being some of my favorite childhood games!

@darealrulezbreaker9493

11 ай бұрын

so, what do you think about it so far?

Poor Ulder, dude got dragged to hell in Elturel and then as he’s heading back to Baldur’s Gate, he’s immediately captured by Drow and the Absolute.

This is perfectly timed ;). I am just coming off a replay of BG1/2 EE and a playthrough BG3 EA, asking myself exactly these questions. Not about the events of 1 and 2 obviously, but those 130 years in-between and how there can be a connection to the old events, how they are reconciling the old games' varied outcomes with the necessity of a canonical world-state, how the heck Jaheira and Minsc can be in BG3, and so on. Many thanks, now I don't need to ask those questions in the forums. I have to say it is quite surprising how the prospect of BG3 gets me excited after 25 years. BG3 EA has a few hiccups but they're all game-mechanical in my opinion and quite fixable for the full release. As much as I am capable of being hyped these days. I am.

Good to know, great video!

watched this while waiting for the from hell panel to start

The dark origin we can pick will be somehow connected to Bhaal, I am certain of it. Maybe another, true last Bhaalspawn.

I am glad you made this video and explain how BG3 connects to the older games, last time i re-played BG1 and BG2 was around early 2000's, I had known that Minsc would be in BG3 but I had no idea Jaheira would also be in the game!, but now I am curious what was the fate of our old companions from BG1 and 2.

game lore seems insane

Your knowledge is outstanding on this subject! I played BG I a long time ago, but unfortunately never finished it. 😞

Thanks for the refresher Marty son. Looking forward to BG3 so much, even though I still have PTSD from “Heya, it’s me, Imoen! “. I swear if that’s a Easter egg in BG3 it might finish me off! 😅😇

"The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sewn from their passage. So sayeth the wise Alaundo." - Candlekeep chanters

Viekang, the other surviving Bhaalspawn, was in Baldur's Gate 2. He had the ability to teleport whenever he panicked. He's in Trademeet and Saradush. I really wish they hadn't followed the novelizations for the BG games. They were pretty poorly written because the author was only given a buggy alpha of BG1 and didn't have access to a lot of the scripts. It's also a shame that Wizards hasn't used more ideas from the games. Bringing Bhaal and Myrkul back like they did was pretty poorly done. The BG games and NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer did such a great job expanding on the lore of Bhaal and Myrkul.

I'm not sure if they changed this but I'd like to see a different direction for how the mindflayer tadpole thing communicates with you. Give us options other than a love interest, how about power, fear, gold, ect..

Idk much about Baldurs gate but I feel like the new dark origin character could be larian’s way of putting bhaal into the story of 3