Wow! I can't believe you opened up your new watch for us; what a beautiful movement. I loved the macro shots. Thank you so much Bruce :)

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I wanted to see it probably more than anyone 👍👍

thank you. appreciate you going the extra step to share the inside.

@altbinhax

3 жыл бұрын

I agree it's dedication like this that lifts this channel to the next level.

Awesome man! Very gutsy of you to open it up ! Thanks!

I love my Seiko SLA017 very much. Thanks for sharing the movement!

Thank you for a good analysis and good look at a beautiful watch engine.

Awesome Bruce, that was really interesting & informative!

Thank you for showing us. Definetly I knew that movement is really high end!

Thanks Bruce, interesting and unique content as usual.

That was really Cool Bruce thanks for the effort 👍

Thanks Bruce! So happy to hear this info. I love the SLA divers that’ve got 8L35s

Thanks for sharing. Nice movement with great accuracy. 👍

Damnit Bruce! I love that watch! I need one to go with my Marinemaster 300.

Amazing finishing. Awesome!

Really gorgeous dive watch. Just excellent execution and precision in the entire appearance of that edition. When you add the history behind it - its a great collectors piece from an important brand - and for a good price given what it represents. 👍

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Well stated man!

Thanks Bruce. Your sage comments help me with buying the SLA 069, I’m expecting it soon (8L35).

Just now getting this video on my recommended. Thanks for sharing.

Beautiful movement!

Thank for sharing this...wear it in good health

Thank you Bruce!

Beautiful piece

That's is really a big jump on a decoration level from 8l35a to 8l35b.

Thanks for the welcomed review of the 8L35. I own the Seiko Marine Master SBDX001 with that movement but alas it’s running over 15s fast. I bought it used from the SCWF about 14 years ago & have never had it adjusted. The time has come to do so. I needed this kick in the pants Bruce!

@graysonmcoy6633

3 ай бұрын

It needs to be demagmetized

Class movement and great to see inside my (well, not mine, but you know) watch - doubt I will! The finish and precision of these high end Seikos is every bit up there with the big two Swiss. I'm loving my Willard and more so now I've checked out the Tokyo stripes!

Pure class.

Wow stunning movement indeed!

Thanks for the watchmaker recommendation in Sugarhouse. Mine is in downtown SLC and I was looking for something closer. Thanks!

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Howard at Fankhauser. He is busy all the time because he is GOOD

Great movement, Great watch and Great brand. I also have the same Rolex as you have Bruce but Seiko is still my favourite brand.

Its a bit of an unknown fact in the western world. All 8L movements are hand assembled by the same watchmakers who make grand seiko and credor automatics. All done at the morioka plant. They operate on a three tier level of certification. Bronze, silver and gold. Basic is 8L, mid tier us grand seiko, top tier is credor.

@LARSENBISQUITS

5 жыл бұрын

setter55 who doesn't know that? It's in every press release year after year.

@bintangsena2249

5 жыл бұрын

Whoa i learn something new today

@ChromeMan04

2 жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko isn’t Med-Tier lol

@yunlongwu8071

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChromeMan04 grand seiko is between longines and omega, which is exactly mid tier in every way

@NexDim.

Жыл бұрын

@@ChromeMan04 I think/hope he meant mid tier in seiko overall - Seiko, grand Seiko, credor

Amazing video. This really helps the community and even in my 8L35 watched I never knew what it really Looked like!!! Looks better than any ETA especially ones from Panerai

@user-wb4xj2um3u

4 жыл бұрын

how do you know it look better from any ETA?

@ald4104

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-wb4xj2um3u search for panerai brooklyn bridge

8L35 is a gorgeous and solid movement!

Gorgeous movement!!!

Yes, I'd have a glass case back on there. How often will I dive - never. How often would I want to see that movement - a LOT. Stunnnnning. Gorgeous.

Great shoutout to Sugar house in SLC, I live in Murray, I am still far away from a solid collection but I love my seiko 5 and turtle padi edition.

Thanks, that looks great. And not having a transparent case back, no problem it's meant to be worn.

It's little extra bonuses like these that I subscribe to this channel! 😀😀😀👍👍👍

thanks for opening the can to share with us!

Seiko comes out with beautiful designs and I was a big fan of the brand till I bought a timegrapher. My seiko vintages are way more consistent in performance than the new ones. Looking for ways to fit in the older movements in the new cases.

Hope he resealed it properly for the same WR rating! Thanks for sharing - lovely movement and impressive accuracy!

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is why I go to him. Make sure to get a proper pressure test afterward

@jacc88888

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce Williams Yes, good point about pressure testing.

nice one thanks. close to purchasing one.

Great video! I wonder if you can get a sapphire display back for this watch?

thanks.for the video Bruce. My Seiko SARL004 keeps beating with its 8L35 movement

Great review! I just got the Seiko SLA075 with the 8L35 and unfortunately mine is running 12 to 13 seconds fast per day. I bought it brand new from my AD so I'm unsure if I'm going to keep it or return it. The movement however feels incredibly nice to wind and the second hand sweeps very smoothly. I was just a bit shocked that mine was running 12 to 13 seconds fast a day being that its a brand new updated and current 8L35 with the model I bought SLA075. The piece is extremely nice and it was also hand polished and finished in the Grand Seiko Studio. Thanks for sharing such great content. I found it interesting to see the 8L35 in all its glory.

Great video thanks a bunch

Love it but pricey❗️👨🏼‍💻 Good review Bruce as usual and ty❗️

I have three 8L35 formidable accuracy and very reliable

Cool! SLA 025 and SLA 017 next!!!

Bruce always taking things up a notch!!!! WOW

Gorgeous Porglorge striping on those plates.

Cool, I'll certainly never see it in person.

Hi Bruce, can you do a review on the SPB151J1 ?

Do you think its possible to swap this movement into a Seiko Presage? I kind of wish those came standard with these.

I just got my first 6R watch, now I have to get this? ;)

Nice watch man.

Did you measure the dial diameter? Thank you.

Their flagship Tunas have this movement which is kinda scary with the monocoque cases which means if you brought it back to your watch maker to have it regulated, they would need to send it to Seiko to have it opened from the front.

Best part is it’s real in house movement unlike eta clones which I happen to own lots of them. I acquired my first 8L35 SLA21 brand new 2300$ including tax I guess it’s a keeper.

Hello, Kindly confirm if the 8L35 is the same movement as the 9S55 ? If there is a difference what it might be ? Because I read that it is based on the 9S55 but couldn't understand what that means exactly. Thank you so much

Very beautiful

Missed this when u posted 3 whopping years ago! Love these 8L movements and now paying attention to these in the more “upmarket” pieces like the SLA 017, 037, and related divers. While it’s sort of understandable why these movements tend to exhibit better timekeeping performance it’s a shame Seiko has seemed to lose their way putting enough attention into better regulation of the more mid tier stuff like the 6R15, 6R35, and related movements. I don’t believe this has been lost on Seiko’s fan base and especially the competition. Why would anyone put a thousand on more into a watch running perennially slow or always 10 plus seconds fast when there’s some good alternatives. After all, isn’t the timekeeping quality important too? Thanks for this great review!

@DH-og5yr

Жыл бұрын

I had a 4r that was very accurate

@btmontres1423

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for citing ur experience. Comparing GS SBGW231 to a Presage w/a 6R35 and dial down can’t do much better than -8 to -10 secs/day as measured in the morning. The GS does about +2 max daily pretty consistently when I first got it. I need to have a little better method to tracking accuracy but I generally try to track time by position and in the mornings when I get up and post on a scratch pad. So overall find a correlation between cost and accuracy. I’ll admit I may b doing this all wrong so ur mileage may b better.

@drmanhattan225

9 ай бұрын

Agree the 6R35 is so bad that I will never buy a Seiko automatic using that movement. I would like to get something cheaper for a beater though. Would a 4R be any better?

very nice..

My 8L35 is +10s a day. I used to have some cheaper turtles all within COSC.

Just wow.

It’s beautiful, just awsome!

How + 10 is inaccurate? It is accuret. Please explain, thanks i am planing to buy 1 in few years

Dear Bruce, Please make your usual comprehensive review for the Full Crown Specifications, dial colors, Sapphire Crystal, Diver Certification, stainless steel bracelets OEM from Seiko, price and availability. Many Thanks & Best Regards.

This is a fascinating video. I have wondered about the Seiko 8L35 movement's accuracy. This video confirmed for me what I suspected to be the truth. The 8L35 is a fine movement.

@Teachering

5 жыл бұрын

@Rafael Herschel Yes, Rafael, I believe what you say. I have often thought to have a couple of my watches properly regulated. You give good advice.

TBH Bruce, in the german watch forum there is plenty of people that have really bad accuray borderline close of being out of the -10s/+15s factory specs. Its sad, but its not such a rare thing. My MM300 (SBDX017 from late 2016) is good at about +6s/d, its basically COSC, but if you spend that much, it should be better regulated, at least -5s/+10s out of factory. The movement itself is ofc pretty great. Albeit i think they could upgrade it now, the original 9S movement is advancing now. 50h PR is not bad though and so i think its good enough right now.

Great to find watch enthusiasts in SLC

Nice Steeldive!

are the markers applied or stamped?

My SBDX014 Emperor Tuna has been super accurate

Why is there two gaskets (theres another one inside besides the movement)?

So. Is it an accurate movement?, I got confused, I wasn't sure if you were trying to say it was accurate or 6 secs too fast.

Holy shit that’s an insane movement

Bruce which is the cheapest Seiko Model with 8L35 movement❓🙏🏻

@quakerlyster

4 жыл бұрын

Probably the long discontinued Credor Phoenix, which I bought second hand about 13 years ago. It sold new for about $1000.

Seiko always underestimated their accuracy. Probably due to mass production. My 6R15 running at +4/-2 spd. And there're days I get +1/-1 spd.

Question - If Seiko movement has so superior time keeping performance. Why their movement not Chronometer Certified ?

@MeestroDavid

Жыл бұрын

Because the COSC certification was developed by the Swiss only to certify Swiss watches as a marketing initiative for the Swiss watch industry. Japanese movements are, by definition, ineligible. It's also worth noting that COSC certification applies to the movement outside of the watch, not what a customer would get inside of a finished watch case.

Fun fact about 8L35 movement; it had a magic lever! The rotor winds the movement in either direction! (:

@Aztec1050

2 жыл бұрын

The Swiss auto wind system is better, Seiko even switched from magic lever to standard Swiss auto wind system in its upgrade from 9S55 to 9s65 in GS

Is that watch shockproof or shock resistant?

I like the new MM300 more

And a slab of metal covers that glorious machinery.....

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Nice watch. First!

You didn't tell us, does it have an instant date jump?

@Singh_Swede

2 жыл бұрын

If you are asking if the date setting has the quick-setting mode, then the answer is YES.

I don't really understand Sieko, why they concealing the movement behind the solid case back?, as for the accuracy, when it's new this movement is very accurate, but the big question is for how long? if the movement does not have any feature for keeping that accuracy the accuracy will dropped down dramatically.

Bruce did you sell your Marine Master with your daughter’s birth year/month in order to purchase this reissue? Cheers

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I did end up doing that. I knew this was the one for me. In fact I currently only own two seikos after the purge. This and a blue Coral sumo

@ThatKiddmg

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce Williams fair play mate! Got to be ruthless, can’t keep them all! That blue coral sumo is gorgeous, I’d have one myself if it was just a touch smaller! So are you just down to the gmt master, this new seiko reissue, coral sumo and your new GP now then?

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThatKiddmg so true, you need to be ruthless sometimes. The GP unfortunately was snapped up before I had the budget to buy it lol. So I am down to my Rolex, a couple Seikos, and a couple gshocks. I am on the waitlist for a couple other Rolexes. Hopefully the first one drops soon because I am ready for another watch!

@phillippugh2161

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams Bruce don't play the Rolex game ,just get a VC over seas are a AP royal oak, better Watches and you don't have to play the wait and see game just my 2 cent

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

@@phillippugh2161 a Royal oak is def on my mind. I really like Rolexes as well, they will be excellent gifts for my children one day. So Rolex this year. Maybe RO next year

Hello what do you wear on your wrist ...? Please do wristwatch check :-)

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Today I am wearing my gmt master 2

@malkta1

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams hello Bruce but the watch you wear in the vid does not look like rolex gmt but it is a Chrono with a dark case ..and a lovely bracelet => please what watch is it ?

I guess you were lucky, my SLA017 is at +7 Seconds per day.

8l35b surely has a good decoration than 8l35a, make it somewhat on par (a bit under due to lack of color, but this is acceptable) with same price range open caseback Swiss. Bravo for Seiko for this. But accuracy is still terrible then. Someone can say “oh my watch is accurate few secs only” but it is not warranted to do that. Maybe others are not accurate, or maybe that watch someday will have terrible accuracy by some factors. Still don’t understand why Seiko left it like that why they can regulate it. Compared to any swiss at that price point, it is a shame.

Mine 8L35 is +14s/day.

My sla051 is 10-15 sec fast a day Its newish, i hope it settles in a bit, but the aesthetics of the watch make up it. There is no other option for this watch

Thanks for the review. Still I would not be so much optimistic as to the budget Seiko wathes. If you attentively trace the second arrow of the watch on this macro video - you will definetly notice two things: dust on it and its harshly cut profile. The markers of the watch is far from being perfect as well. It is not a suprize for me that Japenese guys are very economic in materials and in their budget watches they used metal plated hands made of cheap plastic)). The shining of the movement done by lazer as well does not mean that we see Geneva straps. I wish Japenese were magicians... but they are not. At any rate in this class. So... we are are speaking about cheap budget watch. Overestimated one.

I think your daughter was calling for you, haha 5 😎

I wish we could see it in positions other than default....

How could this cost as much as a GS !?

@BruceWilliams

4 жыл бұрын

Its GS quality made in the same production facility

This watch is assembled in Grand Seiko facility, anyone who thinks Seiko would release this watch with un-adjusted non-decorated movement doesn't know shit.

I have/had five 8L35s. None is in the acceptable range for the price point. All mine are in 9 - 14 s/d. But I have admit all of them have very small deviation in all 6 positions. In my opinion, Seiko is just too lazy to regulate their movements, which is unacceptable providing they want to charge Swiss level price, Or it just me being so unlucky.

@jacc88888

5 жыл бұрын

Hua Qiu Not good. If the Swiss can produce a sub $1,000 COSC certified watch then Seiko with their technology certainly should be able to for those high prices!

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Yikes that is the opposite of my experience . Were they all brand new? I know some older MM300s that are all in need of a service get passed around the forums in a sick game of musical chairs. Who is going to get stuck with the service cost? Neverending 'catch and releases'

@phillippugh2161

5 жыл бұрын

Huh dude my 4r turtle is more accurate then what you just quoted and all six of them ......rrrrrrright😉

@sshark97

5 жыл бұрын

I share the same experience with @hua qiu for my two tuna even they were brand new

@huaqiu8628

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams I purchased two of them brand new from local AD. One is a used 62MAS in mint condition less than a year old. One is used MM300 less than 6 month. I couldn't remember the last one. Having said that 8L35 is good movement. As I mentioned, they all have very tight six position deviation better than a lot of mine Swiss Made on pair of that I've seen on new Rolex. Rolex is by far the most consistent even for some decade old one. Based on these small sample observations, my opinion is that Seiko just too lazy to regulate their movement. And since they has such loose spec for the price point, what would they?

You get so much watch for the money with higher end Seiko.

Best bang for the buck in the watch world my opinion of course. Hopefully the naysayers will now shut up

@BruceWilliams

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that will never happen because 'you could buy a seamaster for that price' 😂

@phillippugh2161

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams sssh don't let our secret out on the 300 seamaster 42 let the sub guys keep waiting in line 😉, I have a seamaster Bruce and I'll put my mm300 up against it any day , there both accurate as hell my seikos are more legible and the loom is much better and last longer. But the haters gonna hate . I will say you could get a spring drive GS diver for about the same money used but to each their own love turtles too. Oh you forgot to mention that the 8l movement looks way way better then the one in most Rolex ,and I love my 1601 buuuut

Such movement should be in Skx