I don’t know what is more ridiculous, Texas and California working together, or people being upset that the FBI was disbanded

@williammurphy-zp6nj

2 ай бұрын

Bro my first thought lmfao I’d be estatic 😂

@josephfoster7680

2 ай бұрын

If someone like Trump did so many would be angry so this isn't far fetched at all

@PlaneBoy2520

2 ай бұрын

So if the democrats disbanded the FBI because they were being targeted by search warrants you’d support it?

@larryredenbaugh6854

2 ай бұрын

​@josephfoster7680 Very true. It's really funny because it also sounds like Trump to somehow work his way into a 3rd term 😭.

@jpablo700

2 ай бұрын

Texas and California are on the same team now and would be on the same team during a civil war. Each state's politicians know what they're doing to keep segments of constituents divided.

California and Texas joining together lol

@drewbienewbie03xx81

2 ай бұрын

Ikr. Talk about a plot hole. Lol.

@jordanmolinaro6507

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha facts, they basically made a movie about hell freezing over😂

@Freshnewz10

2 ай бұрын

This will only happen if RFK wins instead of Biden and Trump

@hengzhou4566

2 ай бұрын

That's why this movie is allowed to be made and shown.

@williamwest9204

2 ай бұрын

If ur a student of history it's not hard to believe in a civil war scenario

- disband the FBI - ppl are angry wut?

@jaredhighlands4604

8 күн бұрын

Lol made me laugh

@firstlast2762

8 күн бұрын

You can tell the people that made the movie have very little comprehension of geopolitical issues.

@AntilleanConfederation

7 күн бұрын

Hollywood always lying 🤥

@skhotzim_bacon

7 күн бұрын

The FBI is unnecessary as an organization. They could disappear tomorrow and all their work could be easily taken on by other organizations.

@jamesmorrison7989

7 күн бұрын

@@firstlast2762that or they purposefully produce pro fbi propaganda. Wouldn’t be the first time

The point of the 'lack of clear explanation' on the why, is part of the story. When they come upon the sniper/spotter soldier pair who explain "somebody in that house is trying to kill us so we are trying to kill them."

@flavaj13

3 күн бұрын

Lazy writing is what it is.

@mostlikelyjum8533

3 күн бұрын

@@flavaj13 is pretty good writing, maybe watch it before judging. it's not on the level of "i don't like sand" and other infamous quotes from star wars

@flavaj13

2 күн бұрын

​@mostlikelyjum8533 , watched it twice. It's meh at best and cool set pieces don't make up for lazy and cowardly writing.

@homagee296

2 күн бұрын

​@@flavaj13 Whys that?

@Deimos2k5

2 күн бұрын

It's not lazy writing. The movie isn't about what caused the war. It's about journalism, mostly. It's character driven, not about the politics. They literally have a character turn to camera and state that it doesn't matter what side you're on when you're trying to kill each other. Did you miss that?

I find it interesting that he left out the bit about the President Bombing US Citizens being a catalyst for everything

@ericalexandres7610

Ай бұрын

Theres a part where they referenced the "Antifa Massacre" too... Obviously a Civil War wouldn't start overnight but I feel like there was enough hints to how it would have unraveled.

@itsyaboi8964

Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t be the first time the government has tried to

@angelgjr1999

Ай бұрын

He also collapsed the US dollar. But yeah the droning of a US civilian would start a civil war quickly 🐍

@TuckerMasterson-pl4ol

Ай бұрын

That was during the war

@dabbydabbington135

Ай бұрын

​@@TuckerMasterson-pl4ol No ur r wrong. The government bombed a city block in NYC in the 80s. And dews r used now. Also world's fairs were demolitions.

Because the film wasn't about a Civil War like they advertised it to be. It was a movie about reporters taking a road trip DURING a Civil War

@justinhageman1379

Ай бұрын

Yeah idk why they advertised it the way they did. Completely uninterested from the way the trailer portrayed it but my mom dragged me to see it with her and I really enjoyed it.

@lofton9959

Ай бұрын

I loved the film style it was unique

@SnurkleMcDurkle

Ай бұрын

If you want a more in depth look into why it woild be those 2 states first then read the book series 299 days

@tiffanywyatt5137

Ай бұрын

​@@justinhageman1379 for more potential viewers. What's more interesting watching a hypothetical civil war or watching a bunch of reporters surviving during said war

@justinhageman1379

Ай бұрын

@@tiffanywyatt5137 but if they were targeting that audience why not make a movie that appeals to them rather than making a movie that won’t and then marketing it to that audience. Why wouldn’t you want the demographic that’s gonna watch your movie be the same demographic as someone who would like it?

-Where are you from? -I’m from HK! -Oh CN! Bang!

@Deactiv8dStylez

12 күн бұрын

that was a big rip!!! poor guy was just a friendly, but in war it doesnt matter.

@EddieGonzalez-zm6vw

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96

11 күн бұрын

​@@Deactiv8dStylez Chynaman

@user-jd3pk1bz8e

11 күн бұрын

Horrific, they're like these guys in Bucha more or less

@dragomiruzelac2227

10 күн бұрын

​@@user-jd3pk1bz8e Bucha, a small time fake story.

There are actually four factions in the Civil War in the movie, not just two, and the whole thing was started not by the third term or FBI Disbanding but the President ordering an air strike on US civilians

@MirridonOnslaught

10 күн бұрын

Oof. Sounds realistic

Disbanded the FBI? Hell give him a 4th term

@Styxz__

Ай бұрын

Fbi is fine its the cia that sucks

@prometheus5405

Ай бұрын

what an imbalance. FBI's loyalty is to upholding both the constitution and federal laws, rather than to any individual. Including the president.

@markgarcia8253

Ай бұрын

@@prometheus5405 the FBI is not a branch of government. It’s a branch of the executive branch. Meaning law enforcer bureaucrats (aka the deep state) Institute policies no one voted for and Congress is inept to stop

@herrgodfrey9563

Ай бұрын

🐑

@OKay-ox3kh

Ай бұрын

@@prometheus5405Lol if you think the FBI isn’t corrupt you must be smoking that good good. The FBI and CIA are one they feed each other they are the most corrupt institutions on the planet.

For people who don’t realize, Texas and California were the states to succeed so that people from the left and right could enjoy the movie. The point was so people wouldn’t take our modern split and just assume the movie was attacking them.

@beartrap3400

Ай бұрын

What I don't get is how everyone got it in their head that they're working together. At no point is that ever stated or hinted at. Maybe in the trailer it states that which is misleading but in the actual film it is not clearly stated. It's literally just announced that they seceded and are continuing their secession for the time being. No mention of them teaming up lol.

@mylittlepkle1714

Ай бұрын

@@beartrap3400 it literally is....maybe you should pay attention next time you watch a movie.

@beartrap3400

Ай бұрын

@@mylittlepkle1714 I did. Please tell me IN THE MOVIE where it was stated that California and Texas were working together. I'm genuinely asking.

@countseppuku1775

Ай бұрын

@@beartrap3400Did you fall asleep during the movie haha. They said it several times in the movie bud. Like the flag Texas and California uses has two stars… aka the western forces Texas and California.

@beartrap3400

Ай бұрын

@countseppuku1775 All I remember in regards to this topic is at the very beginning, the president talked about cali and texas continuing their secession. Them working as independent powers makes sense to me. Most of the movie is focused on the journalistic aspect anyway, so if it was stated at all, I have no recollection when and what was said.

It's kind of fitting that a movie telling the story of how the media would cover a modern civil war in the USA Doesn't tell us any of the important facts about what is going on.

@tannerhuxtable6118

11 күн бұрын

🤯

@justsayin4632

6 күн бұрын

Pretty true to what the media does now😂

Gotta admit, I like how they aligned Texas and California. The President stayed on for a 3rd term and disbanded the FBI, so California is out. Then he likely revoked the 2nd Amendment along with the rest of the Constitution, and Texas followed suit. The film tells of how the 1st Amendment doesn’t exist anymore so it’s fair to assume none of them do now. And then the old “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” likely happened so they joined forces.

@Commodore22345

11 күн бұрын

When they said the 1st Amendment doesn't exist anymore, they were likely just referring to how many rights get suspended during times of war or other national emergencies. It doesn't necessarily mean the Constitution was officially done away with.

@davyboy9397

10 күн бұрын

This comment deserves way more likes

@user-bc4ur1sw2k

10 күн бұрын

Well said. I couldn't figure that part out. Thanks! 💛✝️

@scottingalls8460

7 күн бұрын

@@Commodore22345Constitutional Rights do not get suspended during war.

@Commodore22345

7 күн бұрын

@@scottingalls8460 Not officially, but it has happened in the past. For example, Lincoln suspended 5th Amendment rights during the Civil War and it was determined years after the fact that FDR's internment camps during WW2 were a violation of the Constitutional rights of Japanese Americans.

Hoi4 modders can do so much better on the map and names of nations then anyone in Hollywood

@mrlkf315

2 ай бұрын

So true 😂

@henryhill1231

2 ай бұрын

@@mrlkf315 right?

@Cyro_77

2 ай бұрын

Kaiserredux has a good us civil war

@henryhill1231

2 ай бұрын

@@Cyro_77 facts

@theblazindragon420

2 ай бұрын

As I'm playing a civil war in hoi I see this 😂

Oh no... the FBI is gone... I am SOO upset. Can't you tell just how upset I am😐

@ladelllarkins407

2 ай бұрын

Let's also defund the police right?

@skylertenkley1431

Ай бұрын

@@ladelllarkins407 nah just the corrupt government agencies like fbi, cia, atf

@Otto_Von_Itter9000

Ай бұрын

​@@ladelllarkins407 The FBI isn't as necessary as the police, if anything the feds do everything in their power to cover up the government's wrongdoings.

@sepsis111

Ай бұрын

All 3 letter agencies could go and I'd be fine.... nobody likes or wants what they've turned into.

@firefly9838

Ай бұрын

@@ladelllarkins407 yeah ok here's the weird thing right... I would consider myself a moderately right wing person for the most part. I live in the country and most city folks would call me a redneck or a country boy or whatever. I absolutely do not give a shit if the police are abolished. Nobody, I know would give us a single solitary fuck. I have never called them. I guarantee you I never will. We handle our own shit here. Personally, I think people could learn to be more self-reliant. Sure public buildings having security I would understand, especially in big cities. However we got rid of our city police years ago. We just have a sheriff with like two deputies to cover a county nearly the size of Rhode Island and they barely ever leave the station. There is an old story my father used to tell us about a methhead who broke into a farmer's house one night... nobody ever heard from or saw him this town delinquent again. However, they do say the next spring when the farmer fertilized the fields... it seemed to be thicker than usual... and it had an awful smell to it... who knows. Nobody was going to start asking questions.

you forgot to mention that he also ordered air strikes on american citizens on american soil...

@Treblaine

16 сағат бұрын

That just raises more questions like... why? Did they show the president kicking a puppy and shout into the camera "I am a bad man, you should start a civil war to oppose me!" because that is as contrived. The writer is clearly so desperate to avoid showing any sympathy for any actual grievances that he had to contrive grievances.

I hope they release like a “extended cut” where they include all the scenes they removed.

@HabibFromTelAviv

Ай бұрын

Do you think they removed a lot of important scenes in the final cut?

@2AWNY

Ай бұрын

@@HabibFromTelAviv For the final cut that was in theatres? I know they did. I watched all the trailers and was expecting one thing. Many of the more political scenes in the trailers that insinuated what the war was about were never in the movie when I saw it in theatres. It made the movie entirely different from what was advertised really. I think it would be a whole different movie without those scenes cut, so I’d say they were important ones. But unlike most movies where they cut scenes to shave time or make the plot make more sense, they cut these ones I believe not due to lack of importance, but because of the backlash received after they released the trailer that the movie may be too biased toward one side of the political aisle. So I think even the filmmakers were aware of the importance of those scenese and how it could change the movie, just wanted more viewers from both parties and less political controversy.

@HabibFromTelAviv

Ай бұрын

@@2AWNY oh wow that’s crazy. That makes sense though, they didn’t want to lose half of their potential business over political BS

@pablentotz1989

22 күн бұрын

damn i'm waiting for this one.

@timschmidt6741

20 күн бұрын

@@2AWNYI had the impression as well when I saw it. sometimes it seems like the connection between two scenes is missing. makes the movie and story kinda idk, choppy?

Disbanding the FBI would probably make more people happy than angry

@MarechalRoi101

Ай бұрын

I think the creator probably didnt do any research. The reason the movie probably chose to have the FBI disbanded is because they are the agency directly tasked with internal investigations and anti-corruption. If you want to start a dictatorship thats the kind of agency you want to get rid of.

@alphaHero100

Ай бұрын

To normal Americans, it would not.

@dememeitized8048

Ай бұрын

​@@alphaHero100"normal" Americans? Or the people who dont care that the federal government is invading our privacy all in the name of "stopping terrorists"😂

@AlphaStreetWolf

Ай бұрын

​@alphaHero100 to Americans it would to democrats it wouldn't

@BigBoss-dj9fk

Ай бұрын

@@AlphaStreetWolfexplain your position please

Damn Ron Swanson not only went further into the belly of the beast, he also destroyed a government agency. A man of focus, commitment, and sheer will.

@jimbosc

Ай бұрын

He should have gotten rid of the 4 food groups and moved directly to the Ron Swanson Food Pyramid - this would have immediately earned him the full backing of all interest parties and avoided a Civil War.

@thevanburenagency6664

Ай бұрын

give that man all the bacon you have!

@farizbjorn

Ай бұрын

President really is Ron Swanson lol.

@BricktopsPigs

Ай бұрын

He killed 3 men with a pencil. A FVCKIN PENCIL

@tipfertool5457

8 күн бұрын

The disbanded FBI probably bribed a bunch of weed smoking dudes to threaten to kill the Governor of those states to get them pissed off. Gotta work with what you know

Average US citizen doesn't even know what happened in WW2: the movie

I think i read in one comments that the Director of this movie in one interview stated that he want to avoid real life politics as wide as he can, hence little info about the political background and "near imposible" scenario in the movie (California and Texas teaming up).

So basically he came in the office, signed a whole bunch of executive orders, disbanded the FBI, and then served a third term. Pissing everybody off.

@tonysirius3215

Ай бұрын

He also carried out airstrikes on American citizens. And shut down freedom of press

@nickhueper2906

Ай бұрын

Sounds good to me

@elliottbaker201

Ай бұрын

Hey, I don't see what's wrong

@openthinker6562

Ай бұрын

As if California and Texas would work together EVER 😂

@radrymes

Ай бұрын

@@openthinker6562They would work together to succeed and then go separate ways.. I can see that happening.

"Disbanded the FBI" 😃 "Strengthened the ATF" 😦

@joshreiter7582

Ай бұрын

🤢🤮

@ericbennett376

16 күн бұрын

Forty billion likes and only twenty million comments? Let me fix that

@ZamPolit07

10 күн бұрын

But this is already scary; if I were the National Security Agency, I would panic.

Jesse Plemons is a underrated actor.

I hate how the takeaway has been people confused about texas and cali

Disbanding the FBI would make people angry? Does this guy live in America??

@Femboy_Coco

2 ай бұрын

Clearly not he just said the FBI was responsible for intelligence and security. Bro that's what the Central Intelligence Agency and Homeland Security are for

@Allthhegoodonesaretaken

2 ай бұрын

lol only maga thinks that, 😂😂😂

@bishoprikor9190

2 ай бұрын

​@@Allthhegoodonesaretaken then maybe others should wake up to the countless atrocuties the FBI has been comitting for the last 70 years.

@alw1762

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Femboy_CocoFBI is responsible for domestic security and intelligence. CIA is for overseas security and intelligence. You’re obviously not American.

@JackFirlow

2 ай бұрын

@@Allthhegoodonesaretaken “MAGA” this and “MAGA” that. You do realize you’re a grown adult right? Maybe start acting like one. 🤷🏾‍♂️

If anything they need to disband the CIA

@prometheus5405

Ай бұрын

nah. CIA is the empire's hidden sword. Every country has their own agency.

@OKay-ox3kh

Ай бұрын

Both, the FBI and CIA are in a symbiotic relationship of corruption. That’s just the feds in general

@jasonarmstrong5750

Ай бұрын

Finally a sane comment

@ZenityReal

Ай бұрын

@@jasonarmstrong5750why would they disband the CIA?

@jasonarmstrong5750

Ай бұрын

@@ZenityReal the CIA is the worlds largest terrorist organization, bar none. They’re responsible for the overthrow of dozens of democratically elected governments all over the world, all in the name of protecting the corporate interests that line their pockets and at the expense of everyone else

3 term President Nick Offerman who disbands the FBI? In real life he’d be by far the most popular president in living memory. TX and CA might even start to get along in that utopia.

@TwoHawksHunting

8 күн бұрын

Nope, serving three terms and disbanding the FBI and the DOJ would turn our Democracy into a Fascist Dictatorship.

Don’t forget… they said in the movie that Florida was an ally to Texas and California… so you’d have to assume that Florida left the union or was in the process of leaving the union. Also there are a lot of military bases and equipment in California… could be possible that people rose up and took over their military and people who sides with the feds fled the state…

Disband the FBI, I don’t see a problem there.

@Allthhegoodonesaretaken

2 ай бұрын

Yup this is the maga playbook

@scottelders5090

2 ай бұрын

Then you don't understand what the FBI does.

@Allthhegoodonesaretaken

2 ай бұрын

It’s magas playbook

@JackFirlow

2 ай бұрын

Does the federal gov do more harm or good? The dude saying “that’s MAGA” above me is just plain ignorant. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Allthhegoodonesaretaken

2 ай бұрын

@@JackFirlow more harm than good?? 🤣🤣🤣 you you people need brains. That’s the only explanation.

The film didn’t explain it because it was irrelevant to the message of the movie

@averageluka2388

Ай бұрын

Exactly idk why so many people are distracted by the politics of the film. Of course California and Texas wouldn’t work together in real life, it’s another reason to look at the meaning and not what’s right in front of you. This same misunderstanding plagued “Annihilation” (same director) and people were so focused on the aliens that they disregarded the whole meaning behind the film.

@johnnykapiszony56

Ай бұрын

@@averageluka2388 because most people in america are so influenced by politics that they feel the need to have a political opinion and connect events from movie to rep/dem irl

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@averageluka2388the meaning behind a movie matters little if it isn’t well executed who cares about a bad movie with a good message

@MrGhettosmack

Ай бұрын

​@@Jaco059because it isn't a bad movie? The hypothetical politics that lead to the war don't need to be super grounded in reality, if anything it helps the movie distance itself from current year politics, while remaining antiwar.

@julietmike1018

Ай бұрын

What was the message of the movie? I've been to war a few times and their portrayal of the "effects of war" was pretty fucking disrespectful. The use of wartime correspondents to do it was also a terrible move, as anyone who has gone to fight in war has a pretty universal hatred of journalists in warzones. If there was a message, it was squandered by terrible plot development, horrible inaccuracies, and extreme mischaracterizations of soldiers and combatants on the battlefield. The whole thing felt like it was written by a 12 year-old whose only idea of war has come from a public school classroom.

Love how you left out the Florida alliance to there was a whole other side that seceded as well

“ Disbanding the FBI “ and “ People was angry will NEVER be in the same sentence 😂

Disbanding the FBI would not make a Texan angry.

@macramequeenintheafternoon727

Ай бұрын

Because Texas loves nothing more than governmental tyranny? Lmfao

@morbid747

Ай бұрын

Confiscating guns would.

@PhoenixFires

Ай бұрын

True, except he didn't kowtow to any one belief and instead ensured he held all the federal power to enrich himself. Something Texas only tolerates if you play the populist and at least pretend to give them what they want.

@Todd_Swank

Ай бұрын

Well, the people might be republican, but the politicians use the party as a means to be elected in TX. Check out how their legislation operates, they passed 100+ democrat policies while controlling the TX senate but cant pass 5 basic republican policies. And they impeached Ken Paxton for asking questions about a drunk speaker of the house last year.

@travismeta3727

Ай бұрын

@@morbid747100%

How bout we disband the ATF 🤔

@Strange_man1899

2 ай бұрын

Horrible idea

@John-lw5xc

2 ай бұрын

​@@Strange_man1899 no we should disband the atf

@Strange_man1899

2 ай бұрын

@@John-lw5xc we need stricter gun laws

@Allthhegoodonesaretaken

2 ай бұрын

Huh you must make a lot of bombs.

@SoLowKaspar

2 ай бұрын

​@@Strange_man1899no. We need better education around guns. The ATF is criminal

People who genuinely think the movie didn't explain those reasons simply didn't watch the movie

Dismantling the FBI wouldn't hurt my feelings....

Answer: they deliberately did not tell us Means people don’t fight over who’s right or wrong or not see the film because their political side loses Also means that we only experience the civil war the ways our protagonists experience it. Not with maps and politics but with first person experience Side note: the effect they did with photos and the noise cutting out was great

@f-86zoomer37

Ай бұрын

and yet you still see the trumptards here making big issues out of things that most people across the political divide should agree on: we should support democracy, journalism, and our law enforcement. Yet, the magatards say that it's muh biased because of how the movie portrays journalists favorably, or how the president is white and in office for three terms (something trump wants). So the issue isn't politics. It's that a significant portion of one side has been captured by extremists who will use terrorism to get their own way. They're a small segment but they're loud.

@explosivestar1156

Ай бұрын

Exactly. It also makes u bot know which side is the quote on quote bad guy which makes the movie better

@westrim

Ай бұрын

It's weird that people don't get this. Everywhere people assume it was dumb, instead of realizing it was blatantly intentional so people couldn't pick sides in the fictional conflict.

@stevekerrskid3365

Ай бұрын

Which made the movie about nothings and have no meaning. Was a complete waste of time

@AdmiralNesence

Ай бұрын

And i cant get invested in a conflict where i dont know why the people in it care so much. Why are the secret service willing to fight an entire army with nothing but mp5ks at the end of the film? Why are they willing to die for this? What is their motivation that they are willing to die pointlessly against overwhelming odds? Why should i care?

I think it’s intentional they didn’t explain it. The story’s main focus is on telling the story of the civil war through war photography. They want you to make up your own idea of what happened most likely

@MatheusVenti

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the way that the things are nowadays, if they explained why, people would focus only in the politics and not on the story.

@MatheusVenti

Ай бұрын

That's also why they allied CA and Texas

@agustintellez136

Ай бұрын

Like and agreed. Not sure if Texas and California teaming up helps or hurts that lol

@MatheusVenti

Ай бұрын

​@@agustintellez136 Yeah, but maybe is a way of show that the government became so bad that united liberals and consertives against it.

@bigguy3636

Ай бұрын

The problem is their base idea which we have to work with is dumb as hell

The president is the reason bro bro. They don't explain, and thats what they intended.

If this hypothetical scenario occurred the south alone could handle it lol

FBI disbanded? And ppl are angry about it? That's new

@BingusDaCat876

Ай бұрын

They should be angry, the FBI deal with some pretty serious issues.

@Insider9467

Ай бұрын

@@BingusDaCat876yeah they are busy arresting grandma for being at the capitol building

@C-Culper4874

Ай бұрын

@@Insider9467 And preachers at abortion clinics. They are going after some bad people.

@angelgjr1999

Ай бұрын

Iirc he disbanded the FBI because they looked into his shady behaviors. Much like what trump wanted to do…

@MuchCow9000

Ай бұрын

​@@Insider9467 typical commie answer

If the USA and the Soviet Union can team up to fight Nazi Germany, then yeah, Texas and California could find a reason to team up together as well if the threat was great enough. But the reasons stated in this video are not great enough.

@austinsavage5962

2 ай бұрын

I havent seen the movie but if los angeles and san francisco were destroyed it wouldnt be too far off that we would team up with texas

@boitmecklyn4995

2 ай бұрын

exactly. when did/does reality ever make sense?

@young.angry.devildawg

2 ай бұрын

That’s because the USSR and Nazi Germany have a lot in common in terms of economics and politics. They’re both socialist and they’re both antisemitic, albeit the Nazis more so than the Soviets, and the Soviets were anti-religion in totality. The 2 had a pact and alliance (the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) that was only broken when Hitler wanted to seize more ground that breached Soviet borders. Texas and Cali are literally on opposite sides of the spectrum.

@belgianfried

2 ай бұрын

​@@young.angry.devildawg The difference is by foundation, the USSR is meant not to be anti-semitic, whilst the German Reich was. Also, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was that - a pact - don't go funny on the 1940 declaration of nonaggression between the Japanese Empire and the Soviet Union

@the1truejoe178

2 ай бұрын

The Soviet Union did all the hard work. America just kinda sat in the back until they got hit and decided they wanted to be war criminals.

The concept of Texas and California getting along sounds way better of a movie

It was actually more than 2 sides fighting. Multiple coalitions were all attacking Washington from different directions

Elton John was pissed

I’d think creating a new “super police” agency would get people more angry. Replacing current police forces.

The entire point isn't about the conflict itself, it's about wartime journalism. That's what the movie is about

The combat scenes were great, but the movie overall left a lot to be desired.

The only person who'd be mad the FBI was disbanded would be the cartels

@alphaHero100

Ай бұрын

Or any American who understands their function and importance. Grow up.

@Deathbytroll

Ай бұрын

@@alphaHero100 they don't pay you enough to work for murderers, fed

@kaizermengele6669

Ай бұрын

⁠@@alphaHero100we understand the function and importance, but has the FBI changed for the worse since Hoover? Yes. Grow up and learn your FBIs history in its original use and how it degraded into political witch hunts and pathetic cover ups You probably have no idea how Hoover ran the FBI, you probably don’t even know why it’s in shambles now 😂

@patrickm6012

Ай бұрын

The only person? The cartels 😂

@AlphaStreetWolf

Ай бұрын

​@alphaHero100 yaa they lost there way years ago disband the gestapo

To be fair if you went after a lot of those agencies (FBI, CIA, ATF, etc) I could see the organizations trying their hardest to take as much as they could with them.

@longshucksgaming

Ай бұрын

toss in ICE while you're at it

@martinmethod427

Ай бұрын

Or pick off the people wanting the abolishment. Just ask the CIA what they did with Kennedy...

@BingusDaCat876

Ай бұрын

⁠@@martinmethod427Kennedy theory is a work in progress

@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595

10 күн бұрын

@@longshucksgamingFuck no. ICE is the only one that doesn’t kill Americans.

Confusing i thought there were 3 sides fighting not 2?

Two term limit came in 1947. F.D.R. did 4 1/2 terms before he died.

*The real question is, where can I get those sick red shades?*

@jamesrosewell9081

2 ай бұрын

Wherever Elton John gets his eyewear from

@kylahdorsey5211

Ай бұрын

Jesse Plemons said he bought them at a vintage shop in Atlanta.

Tbf the FBI does more harm than good

@ladelllarkins407

2 ай бұрын

Then we should also defund the police

@BigAjia

Ай бұрын

​@@ladelllarkins407I'm a fan of both

@balapadmanabhan5705

Ай бұрын

​@@BigAjiaThe amount of disrespect you hard left liberals have against law enforcement is mind boggling

@prometheus5405

Ай бұрын

if you're part of a radical organization then yes.

@balapadmanabhan5705

Ай бұрын

@@BigAjia delusional I fear

I’d vote for Vivek to disband the FBI!

I don’t think a single person other than FBI employees would be angry if the FBI was disbanded

Bro you know you ffed up when Texas and California are working together

@Lorgar64

Ай бұрын

California would fight for a stronger central government, though...

@PhoenixFires

Ай бұрын

​@@Lorgar64Except they wouldn't. Like the MAGAts, the lefties in California are anti-American, anti-establishment contrarians. They would all make America worse earnestly trying to dismantle society while moderates have to baby them all and try to balance out their idiocies.

@theenclave6254

Ай бұрын

@@Lorgar64They did say it was likely the alliance would fall apart and turn in one another in the movie, didn’t they?

@Lorgar64

Ай бұрын

@@theenclave6254 It would never happen in the first place. That's the problem.

@theenclave6254

Ай бұрын

@@Lorgar64 Eh, I’d argue if whoever is in charge is sucking enough then they could. The right and left has united before. However, after they win? Yeah, they’re turning on one another

See if they just disbanded the ATF everyone would be happy.

@whoisgtsdk

Ай бұрын

Honestly that would have been a way better and more contentious story beat.

Plus other details like the economic and standard of living collapsing as tensions grow. Hinted at the people in New York wanting water, and canadian money being worth far more than the US dollar. The reason that Texas and California succeeded a joined together, is because they are the most powerful states in the Union, with a combined GDP greater than around 220 countries. A24's goal is to create films where you create your own backstory, or piece things together. This is what I got from that film Great movie 10/10 Gonna watch it again today.

This is no real explanation. That’s what makes this movie so good. Because you never find a true answer.

Out of all the three letter agencies to disband, choosing the FBI is absolutely wild

@BingusDaCat876

Ай бұрын

It’s a weird one, it would cause problems but there are so many other institutions that take on similar responsibilities

California is the 5th largest economy in the world and Texas is the 9th, so it'd make sense that they would have the greatest ability to lead seceded states. But the real point of California and Texas being aligned is first to remove us from our current highly partisan mindset, and second to suggest that there are values a country should nevertheless come together on despite our other differences. If we think that there are not bigger issues that we should be aligned on no matter what - like the preservation of democracy in the face of fascism - then we have real problems. It's an attempt to hold a mirror up to our own society. The fact that we're all so incredulous about the idea of Texas and California coming together for any reason is an indictment of us.

@thelastzoe91

Ай бұрын

well said

@sgrant4558

Ай бұрын

@@thelastzoe91 Thank you!

@oddursigurdsson9637

Ай бұрын

I'm always impressed on how divided and vitriolic Americans are to each other. I rarely see that sort of hate from people that are raised in the same culture who from a foreign perspective are so similar in ideals but will literally kill each other over minor differences.

@jacquestuber628

Ай бұрын

I mean you do understand that that largest economy bulshit is all on paper and imaginary right? And it's largely Hollywood and silicon valley, it's not like it's a functioning economy where there's trade in and out all the time, it doesn't function like a country so it's pointless, Texas is oil is more globally relevant

@sc9160

27 күн бұрын

@@oddursigurdsson9637 Not sure where you're from, but modern separatist movements in Europe have been far more violent than any partisan politics in the US. Northern Ireland, Corsica, Basque, Catalonia etc...

FBI being disbanded would piss off only Feds lmfao

The FBI needs to drop 50% of its employees and 80% of it budget. It also needs serious ethical reforms. It’s essentially the modern day gestapo.

@user-sm1bi5ix6l

10 күн бұрын

someone's mad trumpy got busted by the feds lmao.

@hvacsoldier1554

10 күн бұрын

@@user-sm1bi5ix6l yea right man. Political prosecution if there ever was one. You just have Trump the election in 2024.

The FBI being disbanded would not make "many people angry." I'm pretty sure most people in America would be perfectly fine with that

@samatrein8212

Ай бұрын

If Biden exteded for a 3rd term and he or his circle was under threat of Federal investigation for corruption and he disbanded the FBI people would probaby rise. Also the FBI is still there to do a some kind of police investigation, disbanding it would put in its place the NSA or other sectet police/anti-insurgency/gestapo style federal entity

@stpedro-ht9ng

Ай бұрын

If you think most people in america are wannabe terrorists maybe yeah

@Neokretai

Ай бұрын

Most Americans would if that happened as part of a power grab by an out of control President turning himself into a dictator.

the movie isn't about why. its about what would happen. they didn't waste time explaining the why.

@Joe_Brown99

2 ай бұрын

Yep

@lampeater6699

2 ай бұрын

uhhh don’t you think that would be important?

@frozzie108

2 ай бұрын

@@lampeater6699it’s so it’s not partisan.

@Joe_Brown99

2 ай бұрын

@@lampeater6699 Not in this particular instance

@Mana-xd2tp

2 ай бұрын

People love wasting their time chasing ghosts.

I promise you that there wouldn't be many people outside of government service angry if the FBI was disbanded

He Should Said From UK Mr. Elton John Will let Him Go!😂

The point of the movie was to show how horrible a civil war in modern times could cause but the audience raised a great question, a bit of background on the reasons would have been better

@Lorgar64

Ай бұрын

Then why did they make an elected official irredeemable evil, the establishment the objective good guys, and self-serving journalists the heroes? Film had saturday-morning cartoon writing.

@Kirbyoto2098

Ай бұрын

You can't talk about a war without talking about why the war was fought. War is hell and all, but if the USA had allowed the CSA to secede, there'd be a country with slavery and racism literally written into its constitution. So just saying "war is bad" is not a good moral. War is a tool of last resort, but it's still a tool.

If the FBI was removed no one would be mad most would be happy if you've ever took a look at what the declassified last 20 years

@icin4d

Ай бұрын

The FBI would be replaced by another agency, and undoubtedly local and more corrupt.

Yesterday I saw this movie and I was completely had no clue what was happening

Lol anyone remember when Texas threatened to leave and then got hit with a Blizzard so bad it cause a state wide emergency and they begged for Federal support.

I mean tbh giving the fact this came from the man who came up with 28 Days Later, the emptiness of the film was actually spot on, I went to see this in IMAX and with those wide-open shots you can just the abandonment which how it would be IRL if full-scale guerrilla/urban-warfare were to breakout, and also giving the fact that the FBI was disbanded in that universe it made since how other groups were armed to to the teeth especially the not so friendly ones (ifykyk)

FDR served 4 terms btw

@jacielroblero13

2 ай бұрын

Yea because after fdrs death congress decided to set a limit of 2 terms per president

@0_paz

2 ай бұрын

No 3.

@deltasource56

2 ай бұрын

That was before the 22nd amendment was based in the 50s

@BigAjia

Ай бұрын

It's embarrassing you typed that publicly. Why do you think no one else served that long after him? They said it in your video and your history/government class kid

@f-86zoomer37

Ай бұрын

And many people were uncomfortable with that, causing his VP turned President Harry Truman to quickly pass the presidential term limit in the constitution. But during FDR's presidency there was no 22nd Amendment, so it was technically legal, and "two terms" was just convention and an unwritten rule people followed. Also it was during world war 2 so you have to consider that. Obviously today, if Trump were to rig the courts and the justice system to allow him to stay in office for a third term, then people would actually rebel and have just cause to do so.

"it would make people angry" I just call it "a good start"

People being angry the FBI was disbanded lol

It was definitely a different way to do the movie, but I personally loved it. Politics and the “why” wasn’t the focus or even discussed. We start while it’s happening and follow reporters till it ends. The filmmaker even said he didn’t want to focus on politics, just how fucked up a real civil war is. For that, he nailed it perfectly and it was both dystopian and frightening to see

@cassu6

Ай бұрын

I totally agree with you. Very refreshing point of view. I particularly loved the sniper scene where they just said “he’s trying to kill us and we are trying to kill him” when the reporters asked which side they belonged to. I think that quite well summed up the point. The sides didn’t matter it’s just shit for everyone

@mylittlepkle1714

Ай бұрын

"he didnt want to focus on the politics" the movie is literally filled with politics

@stpedro-ht9ng

Ай бұрын

@@mylittlepkle1714 Yeah but it's all fictional politics. It doesn't mirror the modern day political climate at all

@Kirbyoto2098

Ай бұрын

Utterly braindead to pretend politics don't matter in a war. Are we going to act like World War 1 and World War 2 are the same because they were both fought against Germany? No, one was an imperialist boondoggle and the other was a reaction to a genuine threat.

@filthycasual8187

Ай бұрын

@@stpedro-ht9ng Exactly. There's no way in hell California and Texas would work together.

Getting rid of the very competent FBI wouldn’t make me mad.

Only seen one scene in this movie with the guy with red sunglasses and it was scary, that actor is intense

I feel like what’s even more overlooked was that he was responsible for shutting down the water supply to the people of NY as well. Now, at first I believed it was mainly due to the western forces, but first of all, why would the western forces target New York if their main objective was Washington DC, and why would they intentionally hurt civilians and noncombatants? It was also stated the president utilized AIRSTRIKES on PROTESTERS beforehand, which, was a key example in the beginning scene. Because those jets were not the western forces, but the “United states’”. All in all, there are a lot of reasons why the two states seceded, although you REALLY gotta look close to the details. Like how, no allied country of the US tried assisting the president. You also have to note that if California and Texas join in arms together, they hate the president so much that they see it necessary to work together. Also also, I noticed (my dad noticed) that during the final battle in Washington D.C., there was a soldier of the Delta force, which was signified on his helmet. Now, if one of, if not THE most tactical operation group in the military is rebelling against the presidency, then it’s no wonder why there’s a whole civil war. (Not to mention the enormous gas prices) Side note: not every soldier is WF affiliated or US affiliated. The (racist) soldiers dumping the bodies of minorities were rogues, as well as the snipers. It just goes to show how there are those who are neutral, and how they can either just be surviving, or doing whatever the hell they want. And if the “what kind of American” guy was a western force soldier, then I would speculate he wouldn’t be too ecstatic that a BLACK WOMAN was the one to put down the president. All in all, fantastic film that plays a message in multiple different aspects. This is the kind of “shock and awe” more people need to see nowadays.

@cassu6

Ай бұрын

I think even this film that was quite clear in its messaging will go over the heads of most viewers. Especially americans (sorry guys)

@mandingogrande9243

Ай бұрын

Well said

@Fatblue246

Ай бұрын

Boston to Washington is all within a 5 hour commute to one another, so realistically if you were to try to strike at one of the cities you'd wanna disrupt flow of traffic and goods between the other's, otherwise there is just too many resources flowing in to assist them. All the cities in the Boston-Washington chain are in a Megalopolis, it isn't really sound to think of them as isolated areas. On top of that it likely was a straight up lie. In the beginning of the movie the President is making a speech about military gains being made, meanwhile immediately after that is said there is an air strike right near the main character's hotel which is deep in Union territory at the time. Then they hit the highway in PA, also supposed to be in deep Union territory, and it had been entirely decimated militarily speaking. So clearly the USA had devolved to severe authoritarian rule at this point in the war and were just straight up lying with propaganda to the people. The characters make analogies to rulers like Saddam who overestimated their populaces loyalty etc. and I think the point here is that this president had truly reached that point. It is very likely that the USA had very little control over a lot of the territories they claimed were probably at the point of having control solely over the northeastern corridor where the historic seat of the federal government has always been. So the water going off very well may have been because of the war and they were propagandizing it so as to not appear like they were losing. We know there are at least 15 states that officially declared secession and 2 major alliances of those seceded states are engaged in a war with the federal government(the Florida Alliance and the Western Forces). The characters in the film, Sammy in particular, makes a lot of analogies to the race to Berlin with the current situation, and that this is very much an "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation and he says in the film "as soon as they are done with him they'll tear each other apart". Joel also briefly mentions "Portland Maoists" and we can see them embed with an unmarked Boogaloo boys aesthetic armed group fighting union forces. In fact, no group they run into besides the WF at the end and Union forces being killed is ever really identified or willingly identifies themselves. So I think your assumption of their being way more factions would be 100% accurate, and in fact IMO was a large point in the movie in trying to paint the ethical and moral questions around war time journalism. The Syrian civil war that has been going on is a great example of this in real life. That war has hundreds of factions all working together in very loose coalitions that shift quite often depending on the current political climate, all trying to depose Assad. For journalists it becomes pretty hazy pretty quickly on the ground in terms of who they are actually embedded with. There have been cases where they think they are with democratic forces and in turn come to find out they were with an Islamist group etc. So this fog of war in the movie is relatively accurate.

@Fatblue246

Ай бұрын

@@cassu6 most people commenting on the movie likely haven't actually seen it. This movie just came out at a really bad time, America is too hyper politicized atm and "civil war" has been a buzzword here for a minute. You have to keep in mind politics in the US have become WWE tier in terms of spectacle and dialogue, if you throw the words "civil war" out there you are begging to attract midwit brain rot tier commentary. Everyone I know who has actually seen it really has enjoyed it regardless of their personal political ilk. Brain rot mfs just cannot get out of the context of current American politics in regard to anything, and will always find a way to make analogies or try and fit it into conversation, this one is just a really easy target for obvious reasons.

@remyshim3136

Ай бұрын

@@Fatblue246 I do appreciate the shared sentiment, but I would be skeptical that the western forces would continue air striking a city that already lacked water and electricity in civilian sectors. I would see it as a waste of Resources, and why would they air strike people at a water truck that were even starting to protest and riot against the government?

I think a lot of people are kinda missing it. The point of the movie doesn’t seem to actually depict a realistic scenario. And that’s what they were going for. California and Texas teaming up is kinda absurd. But that’s the point.

@frostwang6557

Ай бұрын

but that's the issue, the movie is titled civil war, it was advertised as a movie about a civil war, and then it does not portray it well

@liaratsoni8556

Ай бұрын

@@frostwang6557 You tell me how they could show a non-partisan civil war for fun viewing without making it insanely political

@kojikashiin319

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that was the point. And the point of Akame ga Kill was to be edgy and kill off as many characters as possible, but the world building there was also vague and lacking. Just because a story accomplishes what it sets out to do doesn’t mean it’s competently written.

@audreyrewinded

Ай бұрын

​@@liaratsoni8556Why not make it political? There's nothing wrong with a movie that has political messaging unless you can't handle people having different opinions

@frostwang6557

Ай бұрын

@@liaratsoni8556 if it's a movie about civil war and it is not political, how is it good you tell me

Literally no one would be upset by the FBI being disbanded. California and Texas would also never work together.

I get why people hated them getting rid of the fbi, they should have done the atf instead

texas and california would be on opposite sides of a civil war lol

@alwillk

Ай бұрын

Not if you know Anything about American history. In 1860 a constitutional union party was formed. Jon bell/Edward Everett took three states in the 1860 election Tennessee kentucky and Virginia. Unity parties have happened previously.

@majorpwner241

Ай бұрын

@@alwillk If you know anything about current American politics, Texas and California would be on opposite sides of a civil war. 🤷‍♂

@datsapaddlin

11 күн бұрын

@@alwillk The Major cities of California ain’t riding with Texas in the 2020s they would have to get small towners to do that. Not even everyone in Texas would care either.

I think the whole point is that thr movie wants to focus on the details of what a conflict would look like rather than the politics behind it. I kind of respect then for this

Three terms of Ron Swanson is exactly what America needs.

The people I've talked to that seen it have said their most favorite scene is when jesse plemons' character says, "ok, what kind of American are you?"" That was the most popular scene i keep hearing.

@jeffreylmAu

Ай бұрын

im from Hong Kong😨

@aperez5360

Ай бұрын

​@jeffreylmAu yeah, that poor guy really didn't read the room

@jeffreylmAu

Ай бұрын

@@aperez5360 he was in a state he wasnt really thinking too throughoutly what he should reply to the question

@kylahdorsey5211

Ай бұрын

@jeffreylmAu If you're talking about my comment, I wasn't asking a question. I was basically saying what I know about the movie.

@news26boom

16 күн бұрын

Poor guy should've said he was from American Samoa. 🤪

Disbanding the FBI is definitely not something ppl would be upset about, let alone a vital reason why a literal civil war begun 😂

@offense_a_byproduct_of_truth

Ай бұрын

never underestimate the power of a good media spin. if the little black screens tell ppl it’s time to secede and fight over something as dumb as FBI disbanded…they for sure will 😪

@angusdog22

Ай бұрын

The deep state would be angry AF. They’d invent some nefarious reason why he did it to change public opinion.

@alwillk

Ай бұрын

Getting rid of the 1st amendment would make people pissed too. Right to protest and freedom of press.

In the film it is stated that the president used missles on US civilians as well

This isn't a movie about a US civil war. This movie is about war reporters and their willingness to put aside humanity just in order to get the "perfect shot". People are disliking this movie, because it isn't what they thought it was going to be.

This movie wasn't about civil war. It was about 4 journalist taking a roadtrip though a war torn country to take a photo of the president.

@ryeguy7941

Ай бұрын

Could have been anywhere else.

You know, you’d think a movie titled “civil war” that has a modern day civil war going on would tell you more about the damn modern day civil war that’s happening.

@hyperboreanmakima

Ай бұрын

True

@Fatblue246

Ай бұрын

then you missed the entire point of the movie and should probably re-watch it lol

@mevgod2160

Ай бұрын

@@Fatblue246 ya I watched the movie pal. It’s about journalism. They don’t tell u why their fighting, who is who. There’s zero context involved.

It doesn't matter the film's a flop they blew more money than they're ever going to make from it 😂

I thought that guy in the beginning was El-P at first

This is how you make people get interested instead of giving away the plot details.

@iliafigueroa4820

Ай бұрын

Exactly. It’s called: marketiiiiing! $$$$$

California and Texas would never fight together.

@hengzhou4566

2 ай бұрын

That's why this movie is allowed to be made and shown.

@ranelgallardo7031

2 ай бұрын

They could if both state govts were toppled and was heavily supported by their high Mexican American pop

@GabrielUngacta

2 ай бұрын

And the Nazis could never win WW2. Thats why Wolfenstein is bad.

@ScumbagAllen

2 ай бұрын

​@@hengzhou4566wut

@PlaneBoy2520

2 ай бұрын

People who have a problem with Texas and California fighting together are just mad that it wasn’t a left Vs right civil war so they could see their favorite side win lmaoooo

The reason why the war started is beside the point. The point of the movie is to show what would happen if the US had a civil war.

I'm assuming the conflict started in the second term and when whoever split from the US the president called martial law giving him his 3rd term and the ability to use military hardware on the homeland. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Disbanding the FBI would make 0 people angry

@censorsstarve

Ай бұрын

No I think some people in government would be upset they can't send their thugs to steal and harass anymore

@angusdog22

Ай бұрын

The Deep State would be angry AF.

>Texas and California working together >people upset about FBI being disbanded