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@pingufan1239

2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned a universal ammo buff which I think is need for medium guns as a whole. I think medium ammo on larger slot guns should start losing damage at 30 meters rather than 20 like the compact ammo weapons.

I think there are a few ways to make the Pax better. First, move the blade on the Claw to the front of the pistol, and make it longer so it has a larger reach, like the sabre. Then, add a stock so it can be swung around and also braced for accuracy. These modifications would probably make it a 3-slot weapon, but that's a fair trade for all the upgrades. Then, give it explosive ammo, but like, one really big explosive chad bullet instead of a cylinder of itty bitty explodey bullets. After all of these changes, you'd have the Bomb Lance, which is what Home's next video should be about.

@HomeReel

2 жыл бұрын

had me going in the first half

@nemeasium6346

2 жыл бұрын

After a comment like that, bomb lance mandatory next video Twas once a time where I swapped from bomb lance to my dusters to melee an enemy hunter, The moment was so hilarious we were contacted by that duo and have played together multiple times XD

@weynewman6415

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeReel bomb lance when? ;)

@adrianstrydom8702

2 жыл бұрын

As a bomblance main I demand to see a bomblance video......please

@weynewman6415

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianstrydom8702 try the shotty pistol with it! Especially if you have fanning!

I vibe with the Pax so much. It only needs a little bit. I'd buff the range a little and make the barrel longer. Same for the Claw. Then, introduce a QuickDraw variant with the original barrel and shorter range that's drawn real fast. There's a historical version of the Single Action Army that reflects this

@S3BAST1AN696

2 жыл бұрын

Give it obviously worse bullet velocity, 280 like the scotfield makes sense, the hip fire of the new 92 abd call the variant "pax gunslinger" or "pax gunfighter" and I think there is a very viable and balanced weapon

@revenantchild

2 жыл бұрын

Colt made a 3 inch barrel sheriff's model of the SAA and one with a 7 1/2 inch barrel which could support the concept very easily. The pax in game seems to be the 5 1/2 inch version...I'd say they could increase the muzzle velocity on the long barrel version at a cost of slow loading/inability to fan accurately and give the short barrel version less muzzle velocity while decreasing the reloading time a bit as well as giving it better fanning accuracy but at a shorter distance.

@MadameRouzgar

2 жыл бұрын

Quickdraw is actually a really good idea for a pistol variant until... People start using two of them, one in each slot, to spam shots.

@revenantchild

2 жыл бұрын

@@MadameRouzgar True but it already happens with existing pistols...with or without fanning. I usually use two conversions one in each slot (not dual wielded).

@MadameRouzgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@revenantchild Well, if the current swapping is inconsequentially faster than simply shooting (which I think it is), then adding a variant that is drawn faster will be a problem. If it already is consequentially faster, than adding a variant that is drawn faster will only add to the problem. I myself like the idea and don't think 'quickdrawing' or 'gunslinging' would be broken if it was a bit faster but the devs nerfed the draw speed back in the day if I remember right, so they might have considered that to be a problem.

Pax should get something unique. I suggest a "quick draw" variant. The gun model can have a lightened frame/grip, "melted" edges, etc. The only mechanical change is that swapping to it is marginally faster. Maybe 20% would be plenty. That makes for a very compelling backup to a single shot main weapon.

@Arctem

2 жыл бұрын

This is the first idea I've seen that I actually really like. Unique and clever.

@ToxicPancake88

Жыл бұрын

Dope idea

@kyousey

Жыл бұрын

This is a great idea for a new weapon variant overall

Pax has always been my fav, there’s something about its snappy *crack* bullet sfx that’s real satisfying when followed by a headshot 👌🏻 Would love 3 slot carbine variant like the officer too.

@BraindeadCRY

2 жыл бұрын

Pax Precision and Pax Precision Deadeye variants please. Might not even need to go 3 slot since its still single action

@BradChadley

2 жыл бұрын

@@BraindeadCRY No no, a Pax Precision Marksman. I think it'd be really interesting to have a marksman scope on a pistol.

@shoelessbandit1581

2 жыл бұрын

@@BradChadley and a deadeye scope on a single slot pistol

@Thatoneguard

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite gun in hunt is the pax Not beacouse I used it all game but beacouse I got the vanguard skin

@Squee7e

Жыл бұрын

@@Thatoneguard agreed the vanguard skin makes me buy this beauty over the Scotfield spitfire which would be the obvious choice for anyone who doesn't have fanning and wants a useful secondary (I even prefer the sights of the Scotfield haha)

Just making the pax claw do the same damage as the knife will be enough for me. I guess it has somewhat of a niche with dum dum ammo and shoots relatively fast for a pistol. A real shame the Scottfield completely replaced it rather than being healthy competition for the Pax. Edit: also the dum dum ammo in my opinion should cause medium bleeding because it comes from the medium ammo of the Pax.

@Jesse__H

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they did do that, with the last patch!

@pingufan1239

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jesse__H oh no way I must have missed it

@pingufan1239

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jesse__H can’t check because I’m away from home but are you sure you aren’t thinking of how they only buffed the brawler variants

@grayzraze2920

2 жыл бұрын

They only buffed duster weapons

@kane357lynch

2 жыл бұрын

Pax has a tighter fanning spread and greater velocity

I want a longer-barreled Pax, purely for cosmetic reasons. The 5 1/2" SAA that the Pax is based on is alright looking but it'd look cooler with a 7 1/2" barrel. And then I want a Colt Buntline variant with a silly 12" barrel that has longer damage drop-off and FMJ ammo to go with it to make it a pocket sniper.

@FatRefrigerator

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, give us the Buntline! Make it a pax precision with higher velocity and better range

@taintsmacker4008

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I've been saying for a while. Give us a Buntline and HVs. Buntline should have rifle range statistics with higher velocity, but the same damage.

@leeham6230

2 жыл бұрын

We seriously need the 7 1/2" barrel!

@Lieutenant_Dude

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, buntline with stock so you can be Lee Van cleef in for a few dollars more!

@natethenotsogreat8349

6 ай бұрын

Guess what guys

I love the pax, probably my favorite pistol, it's weird how sometimes you're just good with quote on quote bad weapons and bad with "meta" weapons

@N0031inq

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I get that. Been running winnie silenced since it was first added and I somehow always click heads when using it.

Pax carbine mayhaps? Modern single action army's are converted to carbines all the time, so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility. And we only have one pistol carbine variant, it'd add something we don't have although it'd compete with the scottfield precision a bit I feel.

@maxonival4304

2 жыл бұрын

i always wanted a pax carbine

@samsara5282

2 жыл бұрын

With that they could add Hi-Velocity to the pax ammo pool, giving the vetterli a sidearm to pool its HV with. That and a general med ammo buff would be fantastic

The Pax is pretty much my favorite sidearm for any shotgun, and for the Betterli. If im not running the uppercut for the extra spare ammo I'll pack one with my long ammo too. Just feels smooth, and magnetizes to peoples head, love it

@rambo-cambo3581

2 жыл бұрын

you'd take a pax over an uppercut or conversion with FMJ? in a shotgun build? man I hope I meet you in the bayou so I can show you how its done ;) I love the pax but thats mad

@Racc_of_House_Oon

2 жыл бұрын

@@rambo-cambo3581 Nah, if I'm running chains it's two sets of dual wield chains with FMJs with a death wish

@rambo-cambo3581

2 жыл бұрын

@@Racc_of_House_Oon ah so you're the guy who instantly headshots me with dual pistols 😅 Or otherwise can fire forever until you eventually hit me as I run away reloading Whatever works for you

@Racc_of_House_Oon

2 жыл бұрын

@@rambo-cambo3581 Correction, I'm the guy who, despute accuracy by volume, still misses every shot before getting clapped by the forst round you fire 🤣

@javiermaceira4406

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you, brother.

I’ve been saying poison ammo for the pax. Sure poison ammo isn’t something you typically see, but currently the only medium poison ammo is on the centennial, which struggles a bit with ammo reserve so being able to supplement that with a poison pax would be nice. Also poison pax is just fun to say so it has that going for it as wel

The pax is my favorite pistol in the game. I'd like to see an extended barrel variant, or penetration on medium dum dum ammo. I feel like an extended barrel would be nice for giving the pax a little extra distance, though not much, and reduced recoil. Of course, I could see the longer barrel reducing the stability of the weapon overall, faster sighted shots would be nice for longer ranges. As it is now: it's possible to fire the pax before the sights are aligned, after a shot is taken. The added weight of the extended barrel, would help mitigate the effects of recoil. Sure, hip firing might be less accurate, but that wouldn't bother me all that much. As for added penetration on dum dum ammo: Though it would likely cause a surge in popularity, it would be short lived. Medium dum dum ammo being available on only the Springfield and pax, along with the penetration being underwhelming, would likely cause the hype to die down quickly. However, being able to penetrate in some situations, would make dum dum ammo more viable. While I don't see it as underpowered, I doubt it would become the standard pick over medium fmj, if it got buffed. I don't care if the pax never gets buffs, or better variants, but they would make me happy. I own a real clone of the gun the pax is based off of, and love that the pax does a great job of emulating my first irl handgun. It feels great to play with in game, and I will always take the pax over the scottsfield. Not because the scottsfield is bad, but because I love the pax.

I always liked the Pax for its "basicness", but i fell like i got more and more alone with this opinion. Okay they could buff the claw to actaually do the stuff ingame it already does in the trailer :)

@alexkoll4154

Жыл бұрын

Genius

i would like to see high velocity for it. good side arm for vetterli and shotguns.

Before the Scottfield got the new variants, it was exactly the other way around. Now it completely replaced the Pax.

@matts.6234

2 жыл бұрын

I preferred the scottfield before the variants were added over the pax, the sights just seem easier to use.

Great and helpful content as always Home. Love the Red Rising shoutout! :)

I dunno why they've never added a Buntline (long barrel, stockless) version of the Pax when it's a pretty well requested gun and would be a fairly unique edition. Add a minor damage and velocity increase with the longer barrel, perhaps to 120 damage with 360 FPS and you'd have a decent two slot weapon that could compete with the Stocksfield.

@Bllksem

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't the game work in m/s?

"Not by design, but by neglect" couldn't have phrased it better.

if we're talking varients to make the pax stand out a bit, I think a long barrel version with slightly higher damage and slightly higher muzzle velocity/range could be a good choice, it'd be the babby uppercut, finding a midrange between existing weapons which is kind of the medium ammo thing, and maybe a shorter barrel variant with bonus ammo capacity, making it a pack-mule kind of sidearm. make the pax a Utility pick to the scottfield's straight combat ability.

I want to see a medium ammo, medium slot rifle with a magazine to fill that niche that exists for both compact and long ammo builds but not medium. The Pax is fine where it is imo because it's a nice reliable, affordable option. It could do with perhaps a minor buff but nothing drastic.

Howdy Homeboy Reel. Personally, I’d like to see a Pax “Big Iron” variant. Deals more damage, but fires slower and has more recoil. Having high velocity as a special ammo type would also be interesting for the Pax

@Grayfox354

2 жыл бұрын

High velocity actually is genius, that way you can finally have a pistol to pair with a high velocity karabiner

@ianfuller-thomson8599

2 жыл бұрын

High velocity focuses on the main diffrence between it and the scottfield. Pax has a higher velocity than the normal scottfield. People often run fmj which slows down the bullet. Pax getting high velocity gives it a place. Also means theres a pistol than can compete with the velocity of the uppercut

I love the Pax. It's just a solid pistol that does what it needs to do without fancy stuff. It makes it a pleasure to shoot with. I get that it needs some progression and high velocity, some kind of sight and more ammo wouldn't be bad but as I love the basic version I'll still run it a lot.

Love the videos always brightens my day to see a new one

High velocity for the Pax or a variant with longer barrel

Pax is my go to pistol without fannning or quartermaster. I often use dumdum to get that extra bleed effect since the damage output alone is not too powerful to deter an enemy pushing in on me. Dual wielding it is better to take the conversions or scottfield, especially te swift. I think medium ammo though is in general underwhelming. It needs a buff in general. For a varient, I would like to see a deadeye pax. Need another precision varient for medium ammo.

My answer is to give it HVs to stack with the Vetterli. Also add a buntline special. Long barrel pax with rifle drop-off stats and range. Damage stays the same, but velocity is increased.

A Red Rising reference, and a Pax video? A combination I didn't know I needed until about 10 seconds ago.

This might sound weird, but I kinda would like to see a Pax Target pistol version, that sacrifices ammo and shooting rate for high damage and even less sway and then accompany it with high velo ammo, to give it more synergy with the vetterli in general.

@baker90338

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a real life version you’re probably thinking of with that, the bisley model, however I’d say it doesn’t need the sacrifice of ammo. Just make it a little more expensive.

I love the red rising reference it’s always cool to know that other people have read the series, I think a pax spitfire would be with a short barrel and a birds head grip

Home Reel comments section: All these great ideas, for free. Crytek: So...Pax poison ammo? Alright cool.

here's an idea. Make the standard PAX with a 7.5 inch barrel, not the current 5 inch. Increase muzzle velocity and slightly decrease sway. Current barrel lenght PAX becomes the spitfire or brawler. Or we go extra-special. We base the PAX on the Colt buntline, wich has an insane 12 inch barrel. We can go even further= There is a stocked version of this pistol aswel. The insane barrel lenght makes it look ridicilous, but its a chance for a revolver simular to an uppercut but in the medium ammo category.

I think one big point you forgot to mention @HomeReel is that the pax is the shotgunners best friend if they are doing under $500 loadouts It's faster bullet speed and slightly better handling can often be just enough for somebody with a caldwell rival to poke somebody at range when a Scotfeild might miss

Right now I only have love for the pax in 3 situations. 1) it’s a good secondary for a shotgun or crossbow (but so is the scottfield). 2) it’s a very good dual wield weapon (but so is the scottfield). 3) it’s a good way to get extra dumdum ammo on the Springfield. So actually there’s only one situation where I have love for the pax, that’s a bummer. …to be fair I do love the pax, I just wish there was a reason to run it over the scottfield but they’re so similar that it’s not really a consideration. The dum dum ammo of the Springfield is actually so fun though, give it a shot.

I think the first thing it needs is high velocity. Running high velocity on the vertili is a option for sniping but there is no way to add to your reserve pool. The nagant gets a velocity of 490 with the ammo type and I think it'd be pretty cool to have a pax that has the bullet speed of a Springfield. Like someone else suggested as well explosive rounds might also be good. Would be a good pocket breach gun that isn't expensive like the upercut. I also think it needs a price reduction. With the addition of the new army and spitfire we have rapid fire pistols that are either cheaper or barely above the price of a pax and arguably both are better than a pax even without special ammo. The pax was my favorite pistol before special ammo update. But now with other competitive choices and lack of variants and bullet type there really is no reason to use it anymore. I'll actually go a step further give it poison as well. Why not? If it's not gonna have any variants why not just give it all the ammo? No one is ever gonna use centennial poison but pax posion? Might actually have it's uses

I actually really like the Pax as it is. No reason other than it works for me. Idk if it's the sight picture or what, but I feel I do quite well with it.

Maybe high velocity would help make it stand out more and would help stack for the vetterli

As has been said multiple times already, Colt Buntline would be a good addition IMO. A Medium size variant, but still no stock, just a very long barrel, over 10 inches. You'd definitely have much higher muzzle velocity, probably higher damage as well, and maybe even better stability, because heavier pistols with longer barrels are usually easier to shoot accurately.

Honestly, the Buntline would be a really cool option, with a stock make it a 3-slot weapon with a better rate of fire than the base models. Alternatively the Thunderer/lightning would be amazing. To those unfamiliar those pistols were double action revolvers based on the SAA's frame. A true double action medium pistol would be an amazing option. Making it cost ~150 dollars would keep a place for the spitfire as the budget choice.

I appreciate the Red Rising mention. I think of that book every time I here Pax

We need a colt carbine, like in that clint eastwood movie. The one that lee van cleef uses.

I would love if they made a pax precision and maybe even a deadeye variant. Steady Hand could have one more scoped pistol and if they gave the Pax HV you could pair it with the Betterli or use it on its own as a medium ammo head clicker.

Pax definitely needs high velocity ammo option

Buff medium ammo falloff, increase the muzzle velocity of the pax. Having it have say, a 370m/s velocity will make it so that it's a more mid range pistol.

I've been coming around to the pax more due to the "Ripper" skin. I love taking it with fanning, fire rounds, and Romero with dragons breath when I just need to burn everything

I want HV ammo on Pax, a medium slot “Pax Match”, and maybe a buff to the claw melee variant.

Maybe a long barrel variant with some kind of crude flash hider built in, increasing the muzzle velocity and reducing the muzzle flash. Giving the pistol a "stealth" variant without adding a suppressor. Would be nice if it had the old west version of night sights as well, they would put gold pegs in the front blade to reflect light.

@unpaintedarmy

2 жыл бұрын

Flash hiders are a very modern invention.

Ive been wanting a buntline style long barrel pax for a while or a carbine like the officer gets or maybe just a precision variant either way would love to see pax variants

Love the red rising reference

i skipped that ad in the other video because i thought it was an actual ad lmao

I think I can offer a set of solutions based on real life, longer 7.5” barrel, Buntline model, give it a stock of either wire or a flask, call it the artillery model. This is one idea. The bisley model is another one, being a target shooting variant that could act more as a medium ammo uppercut. The final 3 are quite unique, being a american equivalent to the nagant officer, the colt lightning, thunderer, and rainmaker revolvers. These would be equivalent to the nagant officer in their roles.

A Pax Precision would be nice. Perhaps a 3-slot Pax Carbine with or without a deadeye scope?

A pax deadeye variant would be so cool, it would fit the trait steady hand perfectly

I think high velocity rounds and a variant more suited to longer range headclicking could give it a solid niche. Be it a "long barrel" version or whatever historical thing they can find

I think they need to offer a speed reload variant where you can pull out the cylinder and put another loaded one in, but you don't lose the spare bullets like the Schofield Swift. That or a beefed up version like the uppercut but cheaper and with only five rounds instead of six.

I also think it could benefit from 7.5 to 10 inch long barrel version for tighter spread and make the plain version the 4.25inch long barrel. Having a stocked or braced variant would be cool too. But it definitely needs something to make it more interesting.

I can’t remember the last time I’ve used a pax the scottfield just outshines it in every way now

"Bayou bussy pounder" is something I never expected to hear on youtube.

@HomeReel

Жыл бұрын

he's a good dude, would recommend

I would like to see what your thoughts are on the Deadeye Nagant?

Did anybody else notice the pun? "... give the Pax its Vox..." brilliant :P This is the first time I used latin since school xD

No way HomeReel made a Red Rising reference. Thats my favorite book

You are the best hunt youtuber , I want to give you advice for the channel , your vids are high production quality play other popular games too so people check your channel and see the hunt videos

I think adding a funny scope would be awesome for shits and gigs, I also think the claw could use some damage boost as well

Pax is my go-to sidearm when I'm using shotguns. Good range, doesn't break the bank, kills people dead.

Maybe a mace variant? There should be more blunt mele focused guns could help it fill a role. The Scottfield already has a precision mid bullet category but maybe they do a long barrel pax to increase bullet velocity is another option

Needs a really long barrel variant like the one at the beginning of for a few dollars more

Is there any chance.. any chance at all that you'd be willing to make a Bomb lance video? I'd love to know your thoughts on it as well as where you think the weapons sits in terms of being actually viable good or just a meme.

I want a rifle pax, like the officer carbine, but pax, scope and all (maybe a uppercut varient)

I would love to hear your opinion on the new caldwell army

@Olothur

2 жыл бұрын

No Harmy

I'd say they should add something like the 2 cylinder revolvers for a pax variant, that way it's still an overall different thing, but you get 12 shots, with kind of bumping one cylinder out of the way for the other after 6 shots have been fired

I want to see a scoped 1 slot version and high velocity ammo.

let's go baby red rising reference

i would like to see a pax silencer variant. would pair good with other medium weapons for ammo boost while also allowing easy stealthy AI removal, (kinda like winnie and silence nagant), and also the combination of silence and dumdum would give it a unique niche (but might make it too strong considering that bow and x-bow kinda do the same and are balanced by slow projectile speed/ fire rate / bullet-drop )

I've been addicted to the hunting bow lately! you should try it out for a review?

i havent ever played hunt and i still watch these videos religiously

I had this idea of Pax Cavalry that is pax with longer barrel with better range and bullet velocity and at the same time being a medium slot and being the first medium slot weapon that can use fanning. Fanning would be less accurate in this variant tho.

I would be interested in a Pax Swift, though as opposed to using speed loaders have it where you can remove the whole cylinder and swap it to reload?

I talked about the Pax with my Hunt Squad and I said it is my favourite Revolver in the Game (I know that there are better options but it just feels the best) and I thought about maybe adding a silenced variant would buff it

I'm sure I've seen the peacemaker with a longer barrel, maybe a long barrel version of the pax with better damage at range or higher bullet velocity would make a good variant. The 'Pax Sharpshooter' or something like that.

i want to see a pax with a long barrel varient just without a stock

A Pax officer carbine would be really sick actually

The pax is my fave pistol to dual wield and uh also it sounds cool 😳but I do agree it needs some love in the form of variants

I've never really used this gun in my 3 years i know its alright and all but i never use it And congrats 30k get ready love seing thr chsnnel groe from 4 of 8k dont know since when anymore

Before I start watching this video, I've been wanting pax high velo for a long time and I hope you thought of that.

From extensive testing I found the Pax to excel at being the Pareto optimum for fanning and dual wield offering the best trade off for accuracy/dmg

Like the centenial its the feel of this gun which i think makes it a beast, feels real nice with the handling and landing hits

@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty

2 жыл бұрын

I'm coming around with the Centennial. Had to use it for some Russian strat rounds, and I feel what you're saying about landing hits with it, now that I know it shoots a bot different from the winni

Caldwell Pax but Cavalry varient perhaps? (Long barrel) Then add a little bit more damage and improve the range effectiveness.

4:58 the endless possibilities for this joke of the game somehow had a Luger

what about a long barrel version that takes up to slots or a precision with a stock like we have seen before - or maybe a swift where you replace the whole cylinder. A chain is definitely a good idea - what about a silenced version? I wouldn't mind a mace version al well...

What i want is fmj and 18 in reserve. What we need is a buff to medium range dropoff overall. Centennial needs more dmg or faster rof

i would add fmj and if that, then its my favorite weeapon, but im not sure if that would not make it too op

I'd like to see a long barreled Pax that had just a little better velocity

A pax carbine would be my top pick for a variant

I think thw pax would make for a great opprotunity to give the steady hand trait more of a reason to exist. Whether the scope goes on a carbine or long barrel version is up in the air. Maybe both? I somehow don't see it being useful on the base variant.

Turning the pax into a gunsword would be cool, no idea how just think it’d be neat

i think its fine however i also thing some carbine varrients would be awsome because they exist irl

Springlefeild with bleed and a pax is still my all time fav combo. Hit with the bleed q/s to the pax and it’s GG

I just had a thought. What do folks think about an oil canister that could be a consumable that could be thrown at a player that would make flame ammo light in 1 bullet hit if oil made direct contact with a player/make firebombs have more "range" by lighting up the oil puddle

For me the pax is the perfect pistol for midle range in shotgun loadouts if i also want fanning. If i dont want fanning i go for the uppercut. There is also an argument for conversion pistols with fmj but i try to avoid special ammo.

The Pax really feels shafted in Hunt, especially considering its based off the Single Action Army which is truly one of the most classic cowboy/wild west revolvers

Pax Silencer or Pax Precision sounds good. I could also imagine Precision with scope as cheap loadout option would be cool. Maybe a Spitzer option aswell... Idk✌️😅