When I have private devotional Bible reading every morning i ask God to "order my steps in thy word." I pray the scripture as much as possible. I also pray that God helps me "delight myself in him" as taught in Psalm 37. Seeking first His kingdom & all his righteousness every day, and submitting myself to Christ's Lordship is absolutely necessary.

I really appreciate this and it makes me think of my current situation. I became a Christian about 20 years ago during reading the bible from front to back. I wanted to know more and more so I bought logos and spend quite a lot of money building up a large library so I could find out more about the scripture. The problem was I found I would get enthusiastic for a while and then drop off. A couple of months ago I had a good hard look at what I was doing and realised I was learning more "about" the bible than the bible contents itself. The reason I felt like I was bouncing off the study was because I had fallen into the trap of academicalising my learning. After realising this I have dropped Logos for a while and I'm concentrating on understanding what the bible itself says. Since I started to read the bible like this I literally can't put it down. There is so much I don't know but I want to. I'm now spending several hours a day reading through the text. Some of the reading is fast, just to get the overall landscape sorted out, while other parts I'm reading repeatedly and digging into it a little with study bibles. I've found that when I approach the bible this way the holy spirit draws me to it even more. I'm sure I will go back to using logos at some point but I think I need to at least understand what I want to learn about before try deep diving into it.

I love this discussion. I am proud to say when I got my wife into reading, I made sure that she read the entire passages in context. I found this is common with students in other subjects, this passed down to professors as well: they have only read a passage, and out of context or not - they are not getting the lessons, only memorizing a response at best?

I know this is a year old, but at 1:37 in the video, I want to say that I love to hear the old testament read allowed by someone who loves the old testament. I love love love it. Maybe with a podcast you'd probably want to put some brief commentary, especially historical and cultural context, at the end. But I just wanted to say that's super enjoyable to listen to.

@DiscipleDojo

Ай бұрын

We have podcast and video series that teach through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, and the Psalms (our current series, we are on Psa 12).

@suzannedebusschere1607

Ай бұрын

@@DiscipleDojo thank you. I'll look for them. I've only recently subscribed, and there's more stuff to watch than time to watch.

50:41 Ecclesiastes? Me too. I'm at the age where I'm burying relatives left and right. And I'm picking up things in it that never occured to me 20 years ago

I've gained so much by listening to this conversation! Thank you both!

Thank you, Gentlemen 🌹🌹🌹🌹

This is my favorite DD of all time because I have been thinking about this my whole life, I first started believing and reading devotionally around 1972. Despite my love of pure bible reading (quantity) it puzzles me that there is little prize for quality. The yearly plan seems forced. I love the free AP called Daily Prayer Church of England recommended to me by Wesleyan scholar UMC pastor Dr Steven Maskar. The lectionary is broadly comprehensive, the AP is auditory, hands free, musical, but most importantly communal and eucharistic (prayerful) rather than existential (Bultmanian). We worship the LORD not the text, but the text is saturates the auditory experience. Its a mini Anglican / Benedictine devotion that I like. But your discussion identifies a weakness that unless we use our eyes or fingers to read, we do not fully engage the neurological pathways that reading sparks, so I have been trying to read along to the AP. Guided reading from a lectionary helps me but yesterday I received a copy of a used, marked up ancient booklet by David deSilva called Praying with John Wesley, and I love it. It is what the Daily Bread should be, a commentary on several texts with a theme under the supervision of proper hermeneutics by someone I trust. I live about 10 miles from the Daily Bread / Radio Bible Class / Baker / Eerdmans / Zondervan / Calvin / Cornerstone / Puritan Reformed / Reformed Bible / Netherlands Reformed Seminary theological industrial complex that is Grand Rapids where a trip to my local bike shop had me bumping into Rob Bell for example. In college we toured the Daily Bread enterprise and heard about the Daily Crouton jokes. When I was a little kid I listened to Uncle Charlie and the Childrens Bible Hour and signed up for correspondence courses to read the Bible. All these years later I fell in love with apocrypha as new streams flowing into the biblical river. I read so much Bible that I am afraid to forget to talk to God, so I took the advice of my Episcopal priest to pray the hours. This has been transforming. I highly recommend a booklet called Hour by Hour (see Amazon), its a derivative Book of Common Prayer with a very simple daily schedule Morning, noon, evening, compline and it has opened my world to the prayers of Isaiah the prophet and the role of Isaiah in daily worship. Great video. Thanks for your great work.

Great conversation! I really enjoyed this. I’ve noticed the illiteracy but it’s great to hear that I’m not alone in recognizing this issue. Now to see what I can do to help those in my church grow in literacy.

I read the CT article awhile ago so I’m excited to listen to this. I never really felt like the quiet time was really taught in the Bible honestly 😬!

''They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer'' Acts 2:42. This sounds like a pretty good summation of how a day or a week in the first church might have looked like.

I love that distinction between symbolic and ritual participation. Would Dr. Johnson's book "knowledge by ritual" or "human rites" be a better deep dive on that issue? Another resource maybe while we wait for the next KZread installment? Thanks!

Missed a great phrase at 38:55 minutes: Morning Meditation or Morning Medication?

I love Ecclesiastes 🎉

Dirk Nowitzki brother!

@DiscipleDojo

11 ай бұрын

😅

Daily devotions is a great habit to teach children and our churches a full of grown children. As an adult I read and study scripture because I enjoy it. But I’d rather people do a daily quiet time than nothing.

@DiscipleDojo

Жыл бұрын

It definitely beats doing nothing.

@DanteInfernski22

Жыл бұрын

@@DiscipleDojoI just discovered your channel. I’m loving the content. Thank you.

Yoga pants? Nothing like a daily dose of yoga to help you understand God's word.

Pretty new Christian here, but I thought communion was a ritual for a remberence of Jesus giving his life for our sins? We don't have to sacrifice animals because God sacrificed his son, and we eat the flesh and drink the blood in communion to remember that sacrifice. Isnt it also a renewing of our "pact" wich Jesus (apologies, I am a steering wheel holder, lol) to putting God first in our lives? I could be completely wrong in that. So far great interview. 1/3 the way through.

@DiscipleDojo

Жыл бұрын

What he meant was the communion ritual derives from the sacrificial rituals of Israel, so if we don't understand them, we miss out on the depth of meaning that is embodied in communion. Jesus is our perfect sacrifice. But we didn't unpack that as clearly as we could have, so I understand the confusion.

@cweber9112

Жыл бұрын

@@DiscipleDojo well it was slightly off topic for the subject matter so I don't blame you guys for not going further into it. Thank you for the response!

Very little mention of prayer in this conversation, and it seems to me that prayer and scripture go hand in hand. To cast aspersions on "daily quiet time" will perhaps unintentionally discourage daily prayer. And while I know you both say over and over again you are not poopooing the practice I fear the only result of this will be less engagement with God's word.

@DiscipleDojo

3 ай бұрын

I don't think any fair minded viewer would come away with that idea based on what we are talking about.

I love and hate this episode. I love how Dr Johnson thinks but man he just goes on a lot of tangents (Which is good) and once I'm hooked on that tangent he just drops it😩😩😩 Like Dude I wanna know what you think Jesus thinks about pacifism and weapons and how you think is a healthy way to talk about symbols in the Bible.

"Quiet time" sounds like nap time for Kindergarteners. Why don't we just call it devotional time or bible study?

Transactional worshiping. I don't engage in devotional, it feels offtrac. I want to read the Bible in order.

Barthian theology? George Stroup acolyte? Pentateuch guy? Definitely sounds like an Emory or Columbia Theology Seminary grad...

@DiscipleDojo

Жыл бұрын

St. Andrews, actually.

@drujohnson

Жыл бұрын

Covenant Theological Seminary too!

@joest.eggbenedictus1896

Жыл бұрын

@@DiscipleDojo 👍

Sorry, but it has to be said again: those action figures are a work of darkness! Are you guys all stacking cash for a secret society? Baby Yoda is undoing millions of dollars in Christian and Sunday schooling daily.

@DiscipleDojo

Жыл бұрын

That's possibly the dumbest comment I've gotten on the channel to date. *facepalm*

@davethinkingsystems

Жыл бұрын

@@DiscipleDojo possibly? :-)