if you payed more than 1000 pennies for that POS you got taken to the cleaners .wait till you get into that planetary axel , gonna be at least 4000 for the parts

@timetraveler5725

4 жыл бұрын

was wondering why Josh pinned this comment, was it because it was soo helpfull ? or what? Need MORE COFFEE

@joerowland607

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wonder too that comment was kind of an insult. The rest of the tractor functions. And in reality at 5 grand it's a tractor if it runs and functions that's not bad.

@richardwilkens4577

4 жыл бұрын

Is this guy some kind of hater

@adcolt54

4 жыл бұрын

Don't be a negative Nancy.

@jeremyc3431

4 жыл бұрын

No it won't, find the right parts tractor and you will get it fixed. Don't go to a dealer unless you do want to spend big money.

When replacing Axle Bearings always replace BOTH sides ; since one side failed due to lack of maintenance , the other side can't be far from it . If you are a half way decent welder you can weld up those chipped gears , if you can't locate replacement parts at a reasonable price .

@fiat38

4 жыл бұрын

You can bet the oil had never been changed in those, most people don't know that they separate from the rest of the rear end. Best to do both sides, each side should hold a quart 90wt gear oil each. Another alternative is get a complete rear end from a MF 50 with drum brakes, and replace the whole rear end/axles from the transmission on back.

Don't loose heart Josh....easy fix...clean it up...make pushable and park, find part slowly, take picture, measurement, inspect further, left side and axle assembly, new oil, new gaskets, new bearings, keep some budgets for engine side as well...tractor will earn back by itself....drag longer time hey very reliable tractor soon.👍👍👍👍👍

Earl was blessed to be rescued by you! He knew he’d have a great home there with you! You don’t want to upset the Blue Ridge MTN Gods, by giving up on him! Once fixed and he’ll repay you a 1000 fold and be a great tractor forever! Get him all restored and looking too notch and not only be a great work tractor but he’d make a nice tractor for 4th of July parades and holiday parades. His restoration and popularity would bring in more viewers and more advertising for the channel!

Tractors of this era were kept simple to fix fast and get back to work. My 53 Ferguson has had it’s issues but it still runs strong today! Glad to see you working on Earl. Definitely worth fixing. Merry Christmas All!

I love these repair videos. Reminds you how much pride went into the equipment from the design engineers to the assembly line. It seems to me older designers also consulted mechanics to make it easier to repair. Not always but it seems the thought of “someone might have to fix this later on” was at least discussed during design. Keep it up Mr Stony ridge.

Josh, a piece of plywood under your Jack stand will help reduce the risk of the stand collapsing on uneven ground.

Your videos bring several very wholesome things to the table. The first is knowledge. By showing your successes and failures in a real way your are giving a gift to your audience. I personally have always wanted to know how a V-rake worked and how round bales were made. Thank you. The second thing is a passionate love of life and a drive to achieve. It is an inspiration to many, and again, I thank you. I hope one day to do something very similar to you. I definitely won't be chronicling it as you do though. I spent 20 hard years as a US Navy Seabee so none of my videos would be appropriate for children.

@StoneyRidgeFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the great comment!

Wow Josh...quite a project...I sure wish my grandfather was still alive. He was a AC and MF tractor mechanic for over 50 years. He'd know exactly what to do. Good luck my friend. I also love the train horn on the Kabota!

Woah....Josh...its a easy solution to you with tractor gear tooth chipped away...thanks for sharing with us....replace parts available ? Machine shop can make those gear and change worn bearing, you gonna have new tractor again mate....Woo......

Look for cracks in the housing, looked like one just above the bearing. Ebay first for parts, I've found some rare and crazy stuff on there. This is where patience pays off. Be well my friend and best to Mrs. Stoney Ridge.

No problem! Just replaced the bearings, but check both sides, the gears should be ok , not a high speed operating system, take your file smooth out any sharp edges , if there is no more things wrong you will be fine , just take your time, be sure to check the other side also!!! Run it without lubrications!!!

Hi Josh, that old girl is definitely worth fixing up mate, a parts tractor would be a huge benefit for the longgevity of this project. It might be very cheap for parts and worth looking into I think brother. Talk to a local old timer, respect those guys and they can fix anything. Take care Josh. Love your farm too. You should be extremely proud of yourself with the way that farm is coming along. Very nice!! 🤝🤠🇦🇺

Really enjoy seeing these old tractors coming back to life! We have an old ford tractor we’ll be showing more about coming up soon on our channel. Keep up the good work!

Well, while finishing my 2nd cupacoffee, i decided to add more Free advice. get ya a magnet, gather up all the metal pieces, rinse off in bucket, see what ya got, it may shine some light on whats up.I cannot lie, I Like big coffee cups.

Great to see you rescuing the old tractor. I grew up on a hill farm in IL and this was our primary do everything and chore tractor for 45 plus years. My dad added hydraulic controls that went in in front of the seat. You push the clutch half way down for the drive wheels and the rest of the way down for the power-takeoff. Best of luck on your repairs

The gears are in not to bad shape, if you are not going to work it hard you can even weld them back up if you want and just replace the bearings, or even turn around the gears so they work on the other side as it looks like the got broken all on the same side.

Love the Videos really helped inspired us to start our own family farm Channel. God Bless, C.F.F.

@gregnowmen799

4 жыл бұрын

Church's Family Farm that’s really cool. I will have to check it out.

@ChurchsFamilyFarmCFF

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregnowmen799 Thank you

Josh, that tractor is a great find and deserves to STAY on the farm, all farms have an old tractor, fix it and it will b e an old friend (after you straighten the exhaust pipe ) ignore negative comments they haven't a clue., if you can't fix it now, put it under cover and repair at your convenience. adjust the carb, it's a little rich, turn the mixture screw to the right a hair.

Looks like a great project, Like you I know zero this issue, but I love the way you jump in to a project and learn as we (you) go..Thanks for sharing.

Just bought rear wheel bearing kits for my 59 MF65 at Steiner's tractor parts for $25.95 ea. Something like $11.50 shipping. Gears you can take them to a quality welder and reshape them with a die grinder. Using grind wheels and polishing discs. Low speed gears don't need to be polished mirror smooth.

Scale of 1 to 10, that is about a 3 for cost, about an 8 for complex. It really isn't bad. You could probably re use all those gears and the housing damage is very minimal. That said the gear are probably pretty cheap. I would personally keep the old gears as they may be much higher quality than new replacement gears and you may decide to just re use. Getting to and replacing the inner bearing is your main problem and it isn't too bad, just time consuming. If you have the ability to have that stuff gently blasted and get rid of the rust, that will help longevity. 12:57 in the video, there appears to maybe be a crack in the housing at the top. It looks like it may have been repaired once already. I would also look into that. Again, you might be able to re use, but depending on how much "Work" you plan on using this for, that would dictate repairs/replacement.

@EVTodd

4 жыл бұрын

I came to the comments to see if anybody else noticed that crack and what looks like somebody welded it before.

With the experience I have working on my old Farmall A, most repairs can seem intimidating, but once you get into it they're fairly simple. The older tractors aren't really complex and parts are usually not too hard to find. I actually find the repairs kinda fun.

Hey Josh, backyard mechanic Tech Tip when working on crush & run driveways. Use a piece of 1/2” plywood under your jack and jack stand. It will 1) keep your jack from bending as it is able to roll as you lift and 2) it will prevent your jack stand from sinking into the ground thus becoming unstable. 60 degrees, nice. It’s 28 up here in Northern NJ. I spent my afternoon making & welding frame supports on my manure spreader. 2 of them decided to rot away and fall into the drag chains at the same time. Fortunately, it’s only a 35 bushel spreader (small hobby horse farm).

All of that can be repaired. The gears should be able to be found. The one chipped tooth in the housing should be ok, the fix shouldn't be that expensive, I've seen worse. I'll help locate parts.

@Mr3030man

4 жыл бұрын

He's right. The large gear shouldnt need replacement. I would replace the gears in the hub along with the bearing. The carrier gears are like $50 a piece. $100-120 fix at the most.

@ralfie8801

4 жыл бұрын

Heath FamilyFarms The axle bearing is probably somewhere around $100.00, hopefully less, but I'd expect about that. I'm guessing he's in the $250.00 neighborhood to fix it.

@johndoe-zk1yu

4 жыл бұрын

@@ralfie8801 in the worst case. could the large gear be welded and machined?

@Mr3030man

4 жыл бұрын

@@ralfie8801 I did one many years ago. I had no idea the bearing was going for that much.

@ralfie8801

4 жыл бұрын

john doe Why? It has one chipped tooth, and that’s on the end of it. Unless the ring gear is cracked, file the rough edges off that one tooth and run it. The planetary gears are the issue here. He needs some that are in better shape, or some new ones if he can find them.

If you can’t find any gears for this . Take the old ones to a machine shop and they can machine new gears . I have machined gears for a old machine that parts were no longer available anymore and it worked just fine .

Go to a shop and ask questions. They can probably direct you to places that deal with used tractor parts. And maybe they'll give you some tips on repairing and things to watch out for. I love these old tractors. Good luck and I'm looking forward to more on this repair.

Hi....... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍

I hope that you find the parts needed because that tractor was worth buying for the price. Keep us informed, you have my attention now. Good luck.

One thing you have to remember is on a Massey Ferguson is that when the inner seal goes it will cover the brakes with oil and then no brakes. I have worked on them a lot so if you need any info let me know

I feel your pain! I bought my first tractor 2 months ago for our land, a 50HP kubota L5030. I ran it for 3 days and then smoke started pouring out of the exhaust and it had a ton of crank pressure. I tore down the entire block 1 piece at a time hoping for a valve fix but ended up with 2 shattered pistons. Luckily I caught it fast enough and didnt continue to run it. There was no scoring on the sleeves and I was able to rehone, replace rings and connecting rod bearings and get it back together. 400$ in parts and 3 days in labor with cleaning and inspecting. Runs great now and has a ton more power. First engine tear down that I have ever done, and after having done it I will stick to the pre 2007 era tractors because man that was easy to work on. ALL mechanical diesel, no time chain/belt super simple once you get into it.

If i was you repair this. Replace all bearings,, the gears you could get lucky and find one on a scrap tractor. Like one guy said i would replace the bearing on the other side as well. Good luck to ya and like the clip

Hi Josh. I'm dying for an update on Earl. My grandpa had one like that when I was a youngster and yours brings back fond memories. His farm wasn't too far from you. Our family hails from just outside of Mars Hill, North of Asheville. They row cropped tobacco.

@StoneyRidgeFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

oh buddy...coming soon! I have the parts in the shop now and can't wait to put it back together!

Really looking forward to the follow up videos on this repair job!

Josh, we’re all curious what you end up doing. My hope is you’ll gut it out and fix it cheap. Looks like you have plenty of great suggestions. Keep at it! Let us see what you decide.

@StoneyRidgeFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

You'll see...it's in the garage now waiting on parts

Listen to some of other comments. If you have take everything apart and clean it and put it back together with new bearings. It will probably last for the rest of its life. These tractors were designed to work hard all day. It will probably never be used that hard again.

@StoneyRidgeFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

lol you havn't seen me breaking stuff yet bhahhaaha...seems like if it can be broken..I can break it!

Simple repair. You got this. If your up for a little drive I know a guy has parts...in Ontario Canada. Can't wait for the next video

@tomcleghorn4005

4 жыл бұрын

@@dj-nr8nm hey bud pm me.we can get you hooked up

I had a feeling it was the planetary. Looks like you'll be checking the salvage yards. If you can find new parts, they will likely be major league expensive. Salvaged parts will, of course, are way cheaper. Carry on. Good luck.

Well, Josh I am looking forward to the next videos of our repair of this beautiful MF tractor. As usual I love seeing your videos and enjoy hearing your comments. I have read your messages and found some VERY helpful and a few disgusting and stupid. Oh well, such is life.

Love the repair videos. Congrats on 300k, and Merry Christmas!!!

If you can not find a replacement gear, take them to a machine shop, they can weld on material and then cut the gear shape into the new metal.

Hey Josh! I raise ducks in the PNW... It's ALWAYS wet. I learned a little trick about work buckets. Sir on them with the bucket right-side up, instead of upside down. You never end up sitting in a puddle and you can drop any trash straight into the bucket. It sounds odd, but it's not that uncomfortable and I hate working with wet britches!

I think it will turn out good. You should be able to fix it!

@StoneyRidgeFarmer

4 жыл бұрын

I think so too!

hi there first thing i might do is clean everything and get the trash out . put it back together then it should be mobil again . move it out of the way . check on parts avalbilty and price . the either fix or not . if fix you can now movie into a warm shop . winter is here . now you can work on it on a day you can't go out side . if sell it will at least roll or drive onto a trailer . no point sitting there apart . my 2 cents john

Have a great weekend Josh.

Love these videos..learn so much...and great tips. much appreciated.

Look for the parts and the price, Earl has a huge reputation on this side of the pond and a little TLC will repay you . Just starting on my first restoration of a 135 and boy, do I have a lot to learn but I know she'll repay me over and over. Earl will be the same. Best wishes to you , your family and Earl for Christmas and the New Year. Never give up, never surrender.

I do know there is a tool (not sure if still made) called a thread file. I have one myself. It's pretty much a metal square bar with various thread sizes made on the sides, and is used as a file to clean external threads. Might be worth looking into

I really enjoy your channel it looks like your mechanics have answered 😊

Hey Josh if you need to remove any rusty bolts try a 50/50 blend of Acetone and Automatic transmission fluid, shake before use!

@scottbennett6494

4 жыл бұрын

works better than PB blaster

One of my uncles ran a Massey Ferguson Diesel for years in his orange grove in Florida. It never failed him.

Clean it, replace bearing, put it back together. Teeth mostly on there. Search for parts later.

you should seek out a tractor salvage yard in your area. A whole housing assembly should be easily obtained. Remove the hole housing from the transmission and install the new used housing. The repair will cost more then the value of the tractor.

On the sun gear (gear in the tractor) since it was 1 tooth and just a small piece that was chipped. I'd weld the tooth back and grind it down. The other is now portable and your able to take it somewhere if you need to do you won't need a mobile mechanic. Just need to find away to replace the bearing on the tractor. Should be fairly easy. This is a keeper for sure

Josh, you have a 2 pinion planetary , when I was looking for parts for my Massey I found several of those style on ebay around the 400$ range. I also found several equiptment salvage places in the southern part of the US. Be careful buying a parts tractor because between 64-67 Massey Ferguson changed to an early 3 pinion planetary design.

Love them old tractors for sure... great video

I think it looks like a Rockwell axle,I worked at a farm implement dealer and we used Rockwell axle on our equipment.we have since shut down,but that plantery drive and sun gear sure look the same.rockwels are a popular brand any heavy equipment dealer use Rockwell axles.it is not really hard to change gears,I done a few my self.you might contact the Rockwell company on your computer.hope it helps.

same thing went on our MF-65, got all the parts on line, can't remember the cost but it wasn't too bad.runs great now.

I’m restoring my 49 John Deere model m they have all kinds of parts you could possibly need prices are very reasonable too. Good luck and please use hand protection they have latex gloves you should be using.

From my past working with tractors, the bearings were odd size and had to get them from the manufacture. That is what I found with the steering bearing assembly on the one I was doing. Good luck.

2 ways to go: replace broken gears and bearings or locate a used right planetary and replace the entire unit. There are tractor salvage yards that can help. All State Ag Parts probably has the used planetary. Price? You really never know as on used parts there isn't fixed pricing. If I had to guess I would say $500.00 plus freight. On just replacing gears and bearings with new it will probably be about the same. Common failure (caused by never changing the oil or checking the oil level btw) so parts should be available. Obviously be sure to fully service the left side.I would pull it down and check the axle bearing too.

Hopefully you can fix it... shame someone didnt take care of her while they had her...it could have lasted so much longer.. they were built to last forever back then. Not the disposable equipment they sell today. Have a great day 🎄🎄🎄

Follow up on the old Ferguson, did you find some parts to repair or did I miss the video? Some people are like that, change the motor oil in their tractor or truck, but never service the transmission, power steering, coolant system, differential or brake fluid, Good luck with the tractor, I have a 1957 T035 still runs good, but I have serviced the transmission hydraulic system,

You will find video's on KZread about how to fix your tractor. You will also find parts on the internet too. I looked for you and found many. You can also get repair manuals for all of your tractors as well as automobiles on the internet that will guide you in your repair needs. I bought manuals on all of my automobiles when I use to work on them.

Wooo I been working on tractors for 30 plus years, clean up the teeth with a file and replace the bearings. She will be good as new

One lonely farmer, can talk you through that he would say it’s a simple fix . Great job enjoyed that!!!!!

Jesus... This guy has gotten Big since the last time i watched his Jeep video. None the less Great content.

Good job for digging in to fix it. That’s half the battle in my opinion.

Josh, Go to Yesterday's Tractors. They have your parts along with manuals for your tractor. The planetary pinion gear is around $58 apiece. If it were me I would clean it of the bearing pieces and put it back together, load it on a trailer and haul it to the high schools FFA shops. That would give the kids experience and they would clean it up and paint it like a new one. Cost in parts is what it would cost you.

I wouldn't worry about the main gear in the housing. One chipped tooth won't hurt as long as you clean and de-burr it. Source some new drive gears, stick a new bearing and some new grease in it all you'll have a nice tractor! I reckon you can tackle it yourself with some patience and research. Good luck!

You have diagnosed it correctly Josh!!! Thats what it's all about!! Love the content and yes you can do this yourself. That is a planetary gear set and you are correct on how to disassemble it. You will have to get into the rear end and pull that axel out but you are on it. THAT DOG WILL HUNT!!!! DON'T pay a mobile mechanic......YOU GOT THIS!!! Will make for great content!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U are putting a lot of trust in that Jack stand,I would get some heavy wood blocks

Option 1- Go on Ebay and find a new or used bearing, geared hub and associated parts. Option 2- I'm sure there is a Tractor Supply or other parts provider that can source a new bearing, and geared hub assembly. Option 3- Find another Massey Ferguson tractor as a parts donor. Hope this helps Josh. 😁

You can weld a new tooth on the gear, and grind and file it, My uncle did it to a transmission gear on a Farmall H over 50 years ago, and it is still running.

I’ve got away with a chipped ring gear and most missing teeth on the hub gears ,I’ve just cleaned it up really well with gasoline install a new bearing I greased mine very wheel and it also took oil in the hub and filled it up accordingly. We’ve put about 100 hours on the tractor pulling wagons and running a 12’ box blade no issues checked oil and still looks clean

Check with Worthington Ag Parts in Goldsboro NC for used parts. Also check the center section of the axle and clean out any contamination that may have transferred by the axle bearing.

Well might be worth looking around for parts josh, and set it up with an implement, to make it your plow tractor or something of that sort. 👍✌️❤️🇨🇦

I would like to see how this turns out. Do a follow up video please.

Great video 👍

Hey stoney ridge there here in NC call Greene's salvage yard ,alot of tractors,it in Fremont NC

Beautiful tractor

Good morning from West Virginia. Josh and wifey.

Josh, congrats on 300k, bud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you’re on an extreme budget, can you flip the planetary gears around and then the unbroken teeth side can mesh, then use it gently until you can get replacements? Some lawn tractor gears are reversible. Then you just need a good cleaning/greasing and a new bearing with grease. I would say fix it and learn, no rush.

The question I have is the Tire liquid filled? That may be the reason that it is so heavy. You might want to also consider looking at the other side as well. It was great to see you in the Farmers business suit!

You could even see the wheel wobble when he jacked the tractor up.

love your videos

Looks like the gear oil leaked out when a seal went bad. Would have been easier to fix then but still doable. check for used parts and check for new parts on line to see which is the best way to go.

Chipped teeth never stopped things running. The bearing is the issue.

@gregorymalchuk272

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's the pitted, destroyed bearing race. I've seen this happen before. The wheel would move, but wouldn't make a full rotation in either direction. It was the beating.

like the cherry bomb muffler.....lol ty for sharing. Merry Christmas

Get the bearings for both sides get the 2 small gear sets the outer gear ring in the axle housing will be fine that way just smooth the edges of that chipped tooth so the new gears mesh properly tractor is well worth what you'll have into it

@flvince

4 жыл бұрын

farmboy is 100% correct

You should be able to replace the bearing and put everything back together.ive seen those gears worse than that and still function.Great video and good luck Josh!

I really think you can handle it if you ask me! Your a really smart guy! Just the trouble will probably be finding the parts needed and prices of course

Its deff the breaks my 68 ltd 2dr did the same thing but I guess we will see.but now that I just seen the wheel wiggle not sure now..well I was wrong but I dont think it will be to bad bud ..putting a prayer on it lol .but I know you say it's only worth so much but if it's fixed and ya get work done on farm it's worth what ya make of it ..I'd keep it and find a tractor scrap yard .witch we have up here but I'd fix it and use it bud

Josh, clean those parts and let us have a good look. A little chipping can be tolerated if you smooth the edges with a die grinder. There are many used tractor parts yards, tractor is worth fixing.

You should find it easy to get a complete axle unit in a scrapyard as the bearing and seal just inside the wheel are also toast ,you may as well take off the complete axle becide the differential as you will almost certainly have to to do the brakes before using the tractor ,parts readily avaliable here in ireland for old masseys but rare sellers like those gears go scrapyard

@blahorgaslisk7763

4 жыл бұрын

Also getting a complete axle you can work on it inside and in comfort. Use this to your advantage and take it apart and check everything so you don't get a nasty surprise in a year or so. It might not save time now, but in the long run it's a good way to do things. Or as someone I can't remember said; There's never time to do things right, but always time to do things twice.

Josh, if you can find replacement bearings, then do some clean up on the planetary gears, clean everything,, check for cracks with some die penetrant, , grind out cracks, hand file or hone any proud spots on gear teeth. there are only a couple of teeth are damaged (3/4 of the tooth remains intact), I'd bet the tractor will operate.

Josh I love you man, but can I give you advice? Plate the bottom of your jack stands for working on gravel and soft ground like asphalt. They will slowly sink and some times tip over.

Replace the two little gears, replace the bearing and seal... throw it back together and run it,

Really really appreciate the complete lack of swearing :)