What's the EV Charging Infrastructure in Norway Really Like?

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Norway is a world leader in EV adoption, and being a world leader in EV charging enables and follows that. In this video, we tour various segments of EV charging in Norway - street parking/charging, malls / shopping, workplace, hotel and corridor charging.
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  • @brandenflasch
    @brandenflasch2 жыл бұрын

    What part of this would you like to see come to the US the most?

  • @JamesBrittonIRL

    @JamesBrittonIRL

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ubiquitous urban charging on streets and in parking structures.

  • @ChrisLawrenceRebel

    @ChrisLawrenceRebel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pull-through stations would be big, along with filling in network gaps.

  • @busog97641

    @busog97641

    Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see more on street EVSE's. Here in Tacoma the city is installing in multiple locations. They are charging 50 cents a hour

  • @busog97641

    @busog97641

    Жыл бұрын

    No, now that I have almost finished watching this I have decided that what I want to see replicated here in the States is the 92% sells of EV's and the 25% EV's on the roads. That's what I want.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@busog97641 It’ll take a bit to get there.

  • @aj_2W0
    @aj_2W05 ай бұрын

    It'll be, at least, 50 years before we see this kind of infrastructure in North America.

  • @ewawiman9007
    @ewawiman90072 жыл бұрын

    Q1 2022 in Norway 83% av all new registered cars were BEV, 7% were Hybrid and just under 10% was fossil-fuel-cars / ICE-cars. That is impressive. They have by law nowdays that new parking lots must be either prepared for charging infrastructure or built with chargers. Leading up towards this situation. For quicker adoption of EV:s. They had for a number of years tax exemption for EV:s, free parking in city centers, EV:s could use the carpool-lane/taxi-bus-lanes and other measures that promoted EV:s as vehicles for the future. Some of those measure are being dialed down or is going to be dialed down because of todays adoption of EV:s in Norway. I would like to see more charge-infratstructure all over the world and more solar-farms for charging purposes and more legislation that help promote EV:s like the laws and regulations of Norway has done. Tax exemptions, fee exemptions and more.

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    I read that Norway offers incentives via city parking, HOV access, etc worth EUR 5000/yr, every year for the life of the car. They’re essentially buying a national EV fleet. Nice bankroll if you can get it. Don’t see point to solar PV charging at 60 deg N.

  • @KrustyKlown

    @KrustyKlown

    5 ай бұрын

    What do they charge per kwh in Norway?? .. is it absurdly marked up like here in the USA, where it costs as much as gasoline.

  • @RNbiker57
    @RNbiker57 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video, thanks for making it! I drive a 2019 Chevy Bolt since Feb 2020. In the last few years I've watched our infrastructure for electric vehicles go from barely detectable to "okay, we have some". Norway is way, way ahead of us. It's easy to see some of the reasons from your video. The rows of on-street level 2 chargers, apartment-friendly charging stations and numerous level 3 DCFCs all tell the story. Encouraging! If Norway can do it we can as well.

  • @joshmatlock1020
    @joshmatlock10202 жыл бұрын

    I think more Level II charging around apartments, work places and shopping areas would go a long way towards EV adoption in the US. Because right now people in apartments would have a very difficult time going EV...Even if shopping centers, apartments and work places just installed 240V outlets so people could bring their own charging units could be quite helpful.

  • @skyemalcolm

    @skyemalcolm

    Жыл бұрын

    9/50 states have laws called “right charge” which means as a renter you have the right to be accommodated to work with the landlord to install charging. This is actually what they have in Norway, not coincidentally. More states need to pass these laws to help change the mindset of renters/landlords.

  • @BrandonDoyle.
    @BrandonDoyle.2 жыл бұрын

    thats really cool, looking forward to when we have similar setups here in the US

  • @Mobraks
    @Mobraks2 жыл бұрын

    The Neo is frully automatic. Its really cool. It takes over the control of your car and parks it inside the booth for you. 5 minutes later you have a fully charged batteru innstaled

  • @brianriebedriveselectric
    @brianriebedriveselectric2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I love how there seems to be charging (and variety of decent power levels) everywhere. Lounge areas seemed pretty welcoming too. Looking forward to this coming to North America.

  • @jonerzinger9873
    @jonerzinger9873 Жыл бұрын

    This is very impressive, it’s enough to make a person weep to see how far behind this we are in North America.

  • @SpaceCakeism
    @SpaceCakeism2 жыл бұрын

    14:05 Branden: E... 8... 18? ... Me: Dude, the sign is literally right in front of you, it says E134...

  • @stighelmer1265
    @stighelmer12652 жыл бұрын

    Just co driven a ID.3 58KW from Oslo to Bonn. Quite an adventure if you ask me.

  • @bobsande2463
    @bobsande2463 Жыл бұрын

    Branden. You say to tap the rfid card, easy. But where do you get the rfid card?? I’m going to rent in late July and mostly am concerned about card or app access and I don’t see anyone talking about how to get started with the proper card or account.

  • @pinkfreud62
    @pinkfreud622 ай бұрын

    I wanna visit Norway some day & I'm glad they still have fuel car rentals options. I don't wanna spend my vacation learning about how to use it or wait forever in a remote town while charging or hoping a small town motel has a charger. I'm not a big city person in big cities I don't know. I'm more of a nature sight seer. So I'm opting for gas while the option is still available. Just pump & go!

  • @catherineim2431

    @catherineim2431

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree! I hope they will still offer fuel cars.

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Жыл бұрын

    PV panels of the charging station canopy have a small tilt? Should be fixed at 60deg in Norway.

  • @trustinflames1022
    @trustinflames10226 ай бұрын

    That is very impressive. Here in the U.K. we have a handful of charging stations like the circle k at the end of this video. But the rest of our infrastructure is woefully behind when it comes to EV. As it stands I can’t charge at home so will be sticking with ICE until infrastructure has caught up. One thing I still find very ironic about Norways adoption of EV, is how a lot of it is subsidised by the government, what will most likely be paid for by the oil and gas that Norway produces.

  • @runear1

    @runear1

    4 ай бұрын

    Partly true, max 4% of the annual surplus from oil & gas is available for public budget. The rest is invested in global stocks and property ( a pension fund ). UK has a large oil & gas sector - where does the money go?

  • @gothazoth5935
    @gothazoth59354 ай бұрын

    hi Branden, would I be able to use your drone footage of circle K in our university powerpoint presentation?

  • @siasek
    @siasek Жыл бұрын

    That's absolutely amazing, I hear we can't do that! I guess they forgot about it in Norway. :D

  • @JosephHowes2003
    @JosephHowes20035 ай бұрын

    You would think that businesses would want to add level 2 charging. Most don't charge for parking now so even if they don't see it as a way to encourage people to use their business, they could at least profit off of people parking. I would think that they could negotiate lower rates with the electric company (maybe there could be a subsidy too) and they could charge a reasonable amount more than people pay at home for the convenience.

  • @inferno10
    @inferno102 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if having a detached cable standard like what’s used for the type 2 connector would help increase the amount of level 2 chargers on the street and in garages in North America

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 жыл бұрын

    It likely would, but it’s probably too late to switch.

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    It has to happen. There’s no way to throw up many many two plug street side chargers as shown w 10’ attached cables each side. The cable management will stink which is a non starter street side.

  • @eivindhelle3985
    @eivindhelle3985Ай бұрын

    When I purchased my first EV in 2015, most of this infrastructure did not exist. So it is possible to build a lot of infrastructure in less than 10 years.

  • @dontcopyme9820
    @dontcopyme9820Ай бұрын

    Do you need an account to charge a rental car? Or do you just pay & plug?

  • @rubiooibur8534
    @rubiooibur8534 Жыл бұрын

    Central Europe / West Europe and almost all Scandinavian Countries are like this these days

  • @timoliver8940
    @timoliver89402 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t see any designated charger slots for disabled/ wheelchair using drivers - where I live the big charge hubs and many supermarkets have one or two bays marked as disabled driver accessible, any one can use them but they are prioritised for disabled drivers.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s just now becoming somewhat common in Norway but seemingly hasn’t been considered before.

  • @lemast11

    @lemast11

    2 жыл бұрын

    We have designated HC charger slots in and around the town I live in (Horten, Norway) and have for maybe 2-3 years! So cool to see how fast Norway is changing👍 Great vid btw, subed

  • @timoliver8940

    @timoliver8940

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lemast11 what a lovely place to live - I attended a weeklong training course at the Seagull training centre there in Horten in July 2015 - lunches and breaks were served outside on picnic benches overlooking the bay/harbour. We stayed in another small town a taxi ride away in a building that had once been a whaling station/ fish processing factory!

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Жыл бұрын

    Man, those dozens of long high amp cable runs in the parking garage are *expensive*

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re lower current than you think due to 3P

  • @KhalilAmar
    @KhalilAmar2 жыл бұрын

    7:19 you should have approached the truck :)

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Жыл бұрын

    The supercharger 40 stall, 100 KW a stall, that’s some 4MW. How do they get the power in there? I see no overhead lines I’m anywhere. They bury everything in Norway, which means digging up everything ? Same w that drone shot of the big outside charging near the gasoline station, no overhead utility cables at all.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Underground lines are very common…

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch Thanks. Nice video btw. Ok, buried for HV power means of lot of trenching of armored cable covered with concrete slab in any kind of parking area. I don’t see any trenching in the new construction scenes.

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Жыл бұрын

    If you have, what was it in the indoor office parking, a hundred 22kw chargers, that’s a 2 MW bump in the building utility electric service. That’s enormous. It’s the usual service for a skyscraper or a major league ball park. How are buildings seeing that kind of upgrade? I’d like to see what’s changed on the power *entry* to that building, and hear from the power utility how they do this for a hundred, two, of these buildings around a city without blowing out a city avenue to run power

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    There is not capacity for all of them to run at nameplate at the same time - load management is critical for large sites

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch Ah. Meaning what, plug-in in a full ish office parking lot and get trickle charged for some hours? More importantly, not clear how one can predict charge state upon return to the car

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nill757 there are many different load management strategies, but a key factor is that it’s very unlikely all units will be in use at any given time.

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch The purpose of installing more charging stalls than the building electrical service can support is unclear.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Most vehicles are not taking even close to the charger rating. Average power from a DCFC is typically much less than nameplate,

  • @MrGeekGamer
    @MrGeekGamer Жыл бұрын

    1:48 My office is just round the corner from there :)

  • @MrGeekGamer

    @MrGeekGamer

    Жыл бұрын

    5:20 My local Mall :D

  • @SunshineVocals
    @SunshineVocals Жыл бұрын

    Now that's how you get adaption of EVs

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    Charging yes and a EUR 5000/yr every year subsidy life of the car.

  • @catherineim2431
    @catherineim24312 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your video! Do they accept physical credit cards?

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 ай бұрын

    Most do not, but with AFIR now in place, it will be more common.

  • @catherineim2431

    @catherineim2431

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, what about Wifi? I’m asking as I do not have access to data.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 ай бұрын

    @@catherineim2431 I would recommend getting data

  • @u2b608
    @u2b6082 жыл бұрын

    What charging company is most prevalent?

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Circle K, Recharge, Eviny / BKK, Tesla (open Superchargers)

  • @SooperJeenyus
    @SooperJeenyus Жыл бұрын

    What is the cost of charging in these locations?

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Varies quite a bit

  • @Nill757
    @Nill757 Жыл бұрын

    Toiletries at these roadside charging spots? I don’t see any … except possibly at the petro stations nearby.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Were you expecting portapotties?

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Most of the fast charging sites have amenities

  • @Nill757

    @Nill757

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch Some of the charging sites looked loaded with amenities and some looked a bit lonely. Maybe I missed in the cuts.

  • @barryw9473
    @barryw9473 Жыл бұрын

    1. Canopy 2. Minimum 150 kW. 3. Battery on site 4. RELIABILITY 5. At least 8 stations per site.

  • @Brandofviti

    @Brandofviti

    11 ай бұрын

    So.. I am norwegian. I live in this and actually.. I kind of disagree with you on some and wholehartedly agree on some. 1: YES 2: Actually: Owning an ev learned me one thing: I drove my diesel WRONG. There is so many cool places to see! Before for instance.. Eidfjord was a place I drove right past. Now I can't wait to stop there, talking to great people, visit the cafe.. just enjoy the trip in stead of trying to run as fast as I can get to the destination. Therefore.. I am not against 150 kw.. but then I have to run back because the car is finished way before I am. Enjoy the trip as much as the destination :) So.. how about many 22kw chargers with cars that can charge 22kw slowcharging (Mine does just that) and some fastchargers for those who wish that. 3: do you mean battery swap.. not a bad idea, but not now. Reason being there is a LOT of research on batteries now. Restricting that to just one form is smart, but lets wait until we see the different format form out and see whats best to go for. 4: YES 5. how about three times that, but 8 fast and the rest 22kw due to reason 2. 6 which the EU mandated now.. No more freaking apps needed to start a freaking charge.

  • @barryw9473

    @barryw9473

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Brandofviti i am guessing 22 kW is three phase AC charging. This type of charging does not exist in North America. Yes, more than 8 stalls would be great, too. I am referring to stationary battery storage.

  • @tresvecesno7071
    @tresvecesno707110 ай бұрын

    Veldig interessant for å lade kjøretøyet. Generelt er de gratis, ikke sant?

  • @kenik2023

    @kenik2023

    5 ай бұрын

    Check taxes in Norway😂

  • @tresvecesno7071

    @tresvecesno7071

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kenik2023 I know, but it worth pay taxes when you get that reflect on society, the culture, education, healthcare, happiness, safety and many more things. I don't get mad if I have to pay high taxes to me and my family can live good life

  • @mikebreen2890
    @mikebreen2890 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of them, now how many apps, RFID cards, passwords and accounts do I need?

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    There is actually a fair amount of interoperability and roaming

  • @bobsande2463

    @bobsande2463

    Жыл бұрын

    Elsewhere I added a question along these lines. Where/how does a person get an rfid card? I’ll be getting an ev from a major car rental company this summer.

  • @mikebreen2890

    @mikebreen2890

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobsande2463 I think Hertz give you e Shell recharge card in the UK, not sure. In any case, the charging situation is ridiculous. "Ooh, found a charger! Oh shit, should have applied for a card 3 weeks ago and put cash on account." Pfffft!

  • @bobsande2463

    @bobsande2463

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikebreen2890 I'll give the rental company in Norway a call. But your comment illustrates my fear that I will get stumped trying to figure out how to get the charger started and not have a proper device, account, app, etc. Maybe you just tap your credit card and voila it starts. I keep looking for a youtuber to describe the process to prepare to be ready to charge. Many, like Branden, show many details but not how to really be prepared to begin with. Thanks for your response to my post.

  • @MrMe1280
    @MrMe12802 жыл бұрын

    you so far have forgotten to mention how many of those are free to charge

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 жыл бұрын

    none of them.

  • @MrMe1280

    @MrMe1280

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch well that sucks. I heard they had a bunch of free charges over there. Either way still wish the USA would get with installing more here. I don't have any near me and I live just outside of Chicago.

  • @MichaelEricMenk

    @MichaelEricMenk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrMe1280 no, that does not sucks. If it's free, people will use it even if they do not need a charge, blocking for the people that need a charge. Nice to se the free chargers dissappear....

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Free charging is not sustainable

  • @asknor

    @asknor

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of places with type 2 charging are «free» though, meaning you only pay for parking, which would be the same cost as parking for a fossil car.

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose2 ай бұрын

    It’s almost like they want EV s to work. 😁 wouldn’t that be great in North America?

  • @satansshadow2163
    @satansshadow216310 ай бұрын

    What happens in the Winter

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    10 ай бұрын

    What do you mean?

  • @satansshadow2163

    @satansshadow2163

    10 ай бұрын

    @@brandenflasch what is it like in the cold

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    10 ай бұрын

    @@satansshadow2163 the exact same

  • @satansshadow2163

    @satansshadow2163

    10 ай бұрын

    @@brandenflasch really? if i look up EV's in winter it says they lose a large portion of range.

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    10 ай бұрын

    This video is about charging.

  • @rafmanansala1
    @rafmanansala1 Жыл бұрын

    Come on america get it together 😒

  • @polaris1985
    @polaris19852 жыл бұрын

    Very poor camera handling, half the time we see blurry background, hire a cameraman

  • @brandenflasch

    @brandenflasch

    2 жыл бұрын

    this is a small KZread channel, not a cable network.

  • @norsenomad

    @norsenomad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandenflasch Your videos are great, your filming and narrating too, but some people just have to nit pick... Here's my attempt at some constructive input, regarding what Kumar said about blurry background: it is not about how you hold the camera, (your camera holding is all good), simply select another Autofocus (AF) Mode for some of the scenes. For example, where you point into the view with your other hand. When you plan the shoot, set the best AF Mode for that type of scene, and I bet the solution is as simple as that. Cause the A7 siii is a fantastic camera, and has a wide range of AF Modes. (I don't have this Sony model, just an RX100 V, but I trust what the most renown photography magazine test/review articles say about the A7 siii). Good work! Keep'em coming! 🇳🇴

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