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Someone is going to have to explain the belly-button at some point.
0:00 Cold open
1:40 Intro
3:30 Story
9:07 Character design
20:28 Animation
36:12 Conclusion
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  • @axamukvar-choikohariicatho8980
    @axamukvar-choikohariicatho89803 жыл бұрын

    Everyone's taunt in league: i shall destroy you where you stand Lilia's taunt: ahhhh im scared, don't come close, i have a stick and i'll use It if i have to. Aatrox taunt: kill me, kill me now bastard!

  • @goldlight1322

    @goldlight1322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Braum: Condescendingly encourages you.

  • @euljnfarabjorn8041

    @euljnfarabjorn8041

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gold Wade “If at first you do not succeed!...tell me what it’s like.

  • @losman4107

    @losman4107

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@euljnfarabjorn8041 That's braum, right?

  • @goldlight1322

    @goldlight1322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@losman4107 Yes. I like his other taunt more though. "Don't worry! Braum was trying little bit."

  • @thatonescarecrow4692

    @thatonescarecrow4692

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fiddlesticks taunt: AEEEUEEEUGH!

  • @olianims
    @olianims3 жыл бұрын

    Skyen: Giving a child a dark backstory would be too cruel Annie: laughs in ptsd

  • @makku9886

    @makku9886

    3 жыл бұрын

    She IS the Dark Child😂

  • @sparkbag_

    @sparkbag_

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok but why does everyone forget about rengar?

  • @jjrjunior2382

    @jjrjunior2382

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sparkbag_ Cause he is not a child? his story while he was a child was dark, so was Lee Sin's, Kayn's, etc.

  • @violet4239

    @violet4239

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jinx, Vi, Ekko, Claggor, Mylo: laughs in ptsd

  • @Ponderro

    @Ponderro

    2 жыл бұрын

    He specifically said it would be too dark for the character they were trying to create. It wasn't too dark for Annie, because Annie represents a different archetype, which is basically "Stephen King's Carrie but in high fantasy". It's WAY too dark for a character that's supposed to be a cutesy fairy tale dream fawn thing.

  • @YondaMoegi
    @YondaMoegi3 жыл бұрын

    As an artist who works in a big-ish gamedev company and who’s friends with an animator coworker, we do some extra work for fun if we like what we’re working with.

  • @chantevandyk7155
    @chantevandyk71553 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist: TB Skyen actually fell asleep while trying to record the video

  • @drdre1223

    @drdre1223

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would too. Because why make a Lillia video when you could make a yone video

  • @pinkfoosballtable7875
    @pinkfoosballtable78753 жыл бұрын

    I love that when he laughs hysterically about animation smearing during that section he just sounds like an old timey prospector who just heard some tourists ask if there was still gold in the mountains.

  • @YuenQestir

    @YuenQestir

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok but what is this glorious comparison?? Now I gotta go Listen to it again, haha

  • @leopold_hartmann

    @leopold_hartmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    is there stiil gold in the mountains?

  • @egillilja5909

    @egillilja5909

    3 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @alekanzus

    @alekanzus

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's extremely specific

  • @jayjaygolden5123

    @jayjaygolden5123

    2 жыл бұрын

    predictinf a future lol champ??

  • @Steel_
    @Steel_3 жыл бұрын

    37:09 "its also the kinda thing that can get really old really quickly..." *looks at the 200+ year old saga of poppy believing she's not the hero*

  • @icecube815
    @icecube8153 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if we can let Lillia's design off with the "too dark" argument when we have Annie who orphaned herself with accidental fire powers lol.

  • @TBSkyen

    @TBSkyen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Annie's story is MEANT to be exceptionally dark and awful (although I think Riot, as always, has failed to follow up on that). The difference is Lillia is constructed much more as a lighthearted Moana-style "girl goes into the world to solve a problem and grows up," which would have a tone problem if it got too dark in its premise.

  • @icecube815

    @icecube815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TBSkyen Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for the reply and keep up the great work :D

  • @tehtayziez

    @tehtayziez

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I think Annie's design is more a victim of her classic look being iconic to league than anything else. Annie's design could be alot more monstrous or scary, say like Alma Wade from F.E.A.R or something like that and it would make a much better design, if a little derivative, but she only really looks the way she does cos she's always looked that way, much like Ashe and Teemo, long time fans would be mad if they got changed (sadly) so they don't.

  • @miracletortoise6224

    @miracletortoise6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tehtayziez I think the best hope for revised 'canon' appearances for these characters would be with skins, like with Captain Fortune.

  • @MattTheHuman9

    @MattTheHuman9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tehtayziez If they visually update Annie they could just give her a traditional skin like they used to when they updated champs.

  • @scarletred616
    @scarletred6163 жыл бұрын

    Lilia watching Skyen laugh's at her animation:. 🌸 👁️👄👁️

  • @Sootielove
    @Sootielove3 жыл бұрын

    From an aesthetic pov, Lilia has an effective and cute design and it's pretty much what you expect from this concept, but it's always the case where you can tell they held back from going all out. Making her a little more faun and inhuman would have been very interesting and add more to the concept that she wants to connect with humans, but she *isn't*. You can tell she's not "normal" from her upper half, but if you didn't see her deer body, that doesn't quite carry through, making the two halfs feel quite separate. I like that the disney princess features and doe eyes work with her character more than certain other characters, but adding more deer or nature features would have been even more effective

  • @Sootielove

    @Sootielove

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, while the colour scheme of Neeko and Lilia are very similar and that doesn't help, the thing that makes them feel similar to me is their hair parting and face proportions are the same, which creates the same facial impression. Again, it makes sense as they're exploring similar design themes, but again, pushing for exaggeration would work to be more effective

  • @Omehatl

    @Omehatl

    3 жыл бұрын

    That makes sense, but maybe they thought Lilia wouldn't attract as much people if she was more animal-like? As animal characters are kinda niche anyways. Also its probably harder to make her face look adorable and relatable if they add animal features into it. Like we can find puppies cute, but not in the same way we find babies cute, because the later are human and a lot closer for most people.

  • @chickensalad3535

    @chickensalad3535

    3 ай бұрын

    @@OmehatlI feel like most people find puppies cuter, lol.

  • @will_khp
    @will_khp3 жыл бұрын

    the fact that she's so cute makes her even more annoying to play against

  • @treymtz

    @treymtz

    3 жыл бұрын

    and as

  • @will_khp

    @will_khp

    3 жыл бұрын

    treymtz it actually makes her more enjoyable for me. her gameplay is quite unique, her ms being so high that you use it offensively and defensively, weaving in and out of fights. it brings me joy that fighting against this tilting gameplay mechanic is amplified by her cutey/annoying (for the enemies) personality

  • @thebernardoespinacovers6081

    @thebernardoespinacovers6081

    Жыл бұрын

    @@will_khp and people say dashes is more annoying that movement speed..

  • @thekintheb621
    @thekintheb6213 жыл бұрын

    speaking of the leaf bikini , this is something that made me scratch my head too , there is no need for her to cover up cuz she is not meant to look sexy in the first place , i mean look at lamb (kindred) she has a clear hourglass feminine body , yet she is only covered by fur . in my eyes there is no need for that visual indicator .

  • @TheLolrider

    @TheLolrider

    3 жыл бұрын

    They could have very easily have gone for something that was actually leafs, rather than leaf themed. Like, a pile of leafs as a psuedo-breastplate would do kind of the same thing while feeling more appropriate.

  • @tgr3423

    @tgr3423

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLolrider Kind of like Enchantress from Dota. Although I get they'd try to avoid getting too close to that design.

  • @offigjuimce
    @offigjuimce3 жыл бұрын

    Her sister went to war and hasn't returned, and probably never will. *Disney musical stops playing*

  • @Skullkaiser

    @Skullkaiser

    3 жыл бұрын

    "A girl worth fighting-" Burnt down village.

  • @jordanleighton6893

    @jordanleighton6893

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hit me with that Frozen type shit lmao

  • @ByulStar1298
    @ByulStar12983 жыл бұрын

    When TB Skyen started the rant about Disney, and that she would meet a secondary protagonist, I couldn't not think about Yone lol specially because their shared lines and Yone saying he would protect her from Nocturne

  • @Armaggedon185
    @Armaggedon1853 жыл бұрын

    Something I feel was missed when talking about Lillia and Neeko is that they have somewhat similar silhouettes around the head. It was likely just an accident, or something the artists didn't think was important, but Neeko's hair and Lillia's ears have strikingly similar shapes and angles.

  • @flameofmage1099

    @flameofmage1099

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I'm surprised he didn't bring that up

  • @LeNinjaDroid
    @LeNinjaDroid3 жыл бұрын

    Your "too dark" argument started making more sense to me once I reflected a bit on my feelings about the color story. In it's current state, Lillia's relationship to the little girl came off to me as "Lillia being a surrogate older sister and caring for the girl for a moment" which is quite wholesome. The relationship a younger-looking Lillia would have would probably feel like the older sister was a parallel to the Dreaming Tree which is a much darker moment of intimacy. It goes from sharing love and showing care to relating to the suffering based in context only.

  • @Steleaf
    @Steleaf3 жыл бұрын

    32:00 remember that at the beggining of the game people just taunt randomly while standing still, and a player can zoom in to see these kinds of facial expressions, so these kind of facial expressions can be zoomed in while waiting for your jungle camp to spawn!

  • @hinnyu7748
    @hinnyu77483 жыл бұрын

    Here's the note at 12:18 "riot give me a goddamn tv show about the crimson punk kids or so help me"

  • @Jan_Iedema
    @Jan_Iedema3 жыл бұрын

    To me it seems that in the cinematic they give her bikini a metallic sheen kinda like its a sort of ironwood bark or something. It would make more sense at least to me if it were bark given it’s unflexible nature.

  • @will_khp
    @will_khp3 жыл бұрын

    OMG SKYEN ANALYSING THE SMEAR FRAMES ACC HAD ME DYING, IT WAS SO CUTE OMG

  • @noname-rj7dx
    @noname-rj7dx3 жыл бұрын

    TB Skyen: The idle-animation, where she hits herself accidentally isnt that bad because its cartoony. Me, seeing it for the first time: Oh no, the sweet summer child hit her head! Is she okay? Someone give the precious baby a hug!!

  • @sleepandcoffee7195
    @sleepandcoffee71953 жыл бұрын

    I love how accurate the Disney plot actually is and it's proof how generic Disney movies actually are

  • @g.sahkai8338
    @g.sahkai83383 жыл бұрын

    I would like to point out that, while you don't see it on her in-game model, Lillia has several glowing elements in her fur to make her look more out of this world or dream-like and I love that!

  • @sandortojzan5409
    @sandortojzan54093 жыл бұрын

    ,,Lillia has one of the most animated faces in Legaue of Legends." So I guess the sleep mechanic isn't the only thing she is sharing with Zoe, huh? Not sure which other champs have lots of face animations though. Yuumi, maybe?

  • @thatonescarecrow4692

    @thatonescarecrow4692

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except Zoe's face animations are freaking terrifying for most of the time. Especially in her Star Guardian skin.

  • @justanotherLunny

    @justanotherLunny

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tristana and maybe Poppy.

  • @johnwolfboi9100
    @johnwolfboi91003 жыл бұрын

    Yay tb's sexy voice is back

  • @sashathegoma7914

    @sashathegoma7914

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy. Another video into the "go to sleep while listening Skyen talk playlist"

  • @RedesignatedClockwork
    @RedesignatedClockwork3 жыл бұрын

    Watching you completely break at Lillia's facial animations was _immensely_ entertaining. Thank you for that, and for leaving it in.

  • @TheSpeep
    @TheSpeep2 жыл бұрын

    25:12 I know were talking cartoon physics, but owning an anvil myself, I can promise you that taking one to the head would not lead to fatal head trauma. It would lead to no more head.

  • @lauravergo5315
    @lauravergo53153 жыл бұрын

    TB Skyen talks about bad female character design, while he casually shows pictures of Kai'sa and Ashe

  • @lauravergo5315

    @lauravergo5315

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ghabriabdou yup, especially Ashe for me, but Kai’sa is really bad too

  • @lauravergo5315

    @lauravergo5315

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ghabriabdou well the slimness could come from starving xD But about her diet, has she just been living of voidcreatures?

  • @tehtayziez

    @tehtayziez

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lauravergo5315 Kaisa bugs me mainly because nothing about her shows her story. Even the design of the creature she's "wearing" is so boring cos it literally looks like some special space outfit rather than looking even that organic, it's only the color scheme that even lets you know it's void related. She could have been alot more monstrous, alot more disheveled or scarred, even her movements are more like light-weight iron man rather than a girl who learnt to fight from savage beasts and creatures. I actually like Kaisa's release skin because she basically looks and acts like some sort of space, sci-fi shooty person so it could easily have been her whole design if the story didn't dictate otherwise. Since her story basically makes her into Venom, she should have been more monstrous or at the very least, less pristine lool.

  • @thechainwarden

    @thechainwarden

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LesserLordKusanali That's kinda the thing with power armor. One's muscles won't really grow if the armor does most of the work for them.

  • @lauravergo5315

    @lauravergo5315

    3 жыл бұрын

    tehtayziez yeah I agree with you. Kaisa has so an unique story, but from her character-design, she could just as well be a female sidekick, in a James Bond movie

  • @LunarisTigris
    @LunarisTigris3 жыл бұрын

    Her in game animations are an absolute delight. I am so happy she's viable in pro play to just see her prancing and trotting across the rift a lot.

  • @papuchochoe
    @papuchochoe3 жыл бұрын

    MR TB SKYEN I SO AGREE ABOUT HER BELLY BUTTON IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY AND IM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THIS PART OF HER DESIGN. FUN FACT: SHE DOESNT HAVE A BELLYBUTTON IN THE CINEMATIC AND SHE DIDNT HAVE IT ON EARLY MODEL WHEN SHE WAS ON PBE BUT SOMEHOW THEY ADDED IT AFTER SUGGESTIONS OF REMOVING IT FROM THE SPLASHART AND IM SO MADDDDDD LOVE U MWAH AMAZING VIDEO :)

  • @papuchochoe

    @papuchochoe

    3 жыл бұрын

    OH AND BTW WE ARE CAPABLE OF NOT HAVING BELLYBUTTONS BECAUSE PROJECT JINX EXISTS XP

  • @lenleydelasheras2239
    @lenleydelasheras22393 жыл бұрын

    30:21 when you 5 man sleep the enemy team in the middle of the teamfight

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie2 жыл бұрын

    I read Lillia's short story like three our four times already and I still cry listening to it :( it's so cute and sweet and sad

  • @jayjaygolden5123
    @jayjaygolden51232 жыл бұрын

    skyen laughing at smear frames is the best

  • @lelescarlet7184
    @lelescarlet71843 жыл бұрын

    Those other concept designs are so pretty! They should make those a skin option or something. Why didn’t they go with those design options?!

  • @antonisnicolaou9212
    @antonisnicolaou92123 жыл бұрын

    Well about the bellybutton. The in game model you shown its an old one they patched it, in game she has no bellybutton. I don't know tho why they didn't fix the splashart tho. (You can see it in 21:10 where you recorded much later)

  • @borkevent
    @borkevent Жыл бұрын

    this has been said down here already but the segment of you just laughing at her smear frames is so good, your laugh is so delightful and contagious!!

  • @bunnywithmonocle5324
    @bunnywithmonocle53243 жыл бұрын

    I love the self awareness with that 'disney ranting' montage

  • @Whysoshort
    @Whysoshort3 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for Skyen to talk about Samira... I can literally hear the entire video already

  • @TBSkyen

    @TBSkyen

    3 жыл бұрын

    ... then why would I need to make a video? :)

  • @Whysoshort

    @Whysoshort

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TBSkyen we always want more videos

  • @scottsbarbarossalogic3665

    @scottsbarbarossalogic3665

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TBSkyen There is no ad revenue from our brains?

  • @YondaMoegi
    @YondaMoegi3 жыл бұрын

    Also, my most favorite part of Skyen’s videos is his laugh. It’s a really nice laugh that makes me laugh too

  • @LolitaBot1
    @LolitaBot13 жыл бұрын

    funny enough i'm a player at start my games who will zoom in the game's camera for a bit to watch the champion's emotes to see what they are and how they move lol

  • @meethepie
    @meethepie3 жыл бұрын

    They used Lillia's in-game model for her teaser, which might explain why they spent so much effort rigging everything. Source: twitter.com/Earth_Slug/status/1281635680016199680

  • @EraiViolett
    @EraiViolett3 жыл бұрын

    Dude, I love to hear you gush about funny animations, it's so endearing ngl

  • @mojolotz
    @mojolotz3 жыл бұрын

    Lillia is just perfect. Her animations are perfect. Her gameplay is perfect. Her voice is perfect. Just great. Love playing her.

  • @jupiterbee
    @jupiterbee3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! The improved structure and obvious amount of effort that was put forth does not go unnoticed

  • @jacobpadilla9256
    @jacobpadilla92563 жыл бұрын

    I just noticed at 22:30 I think it's a deer in headlights joke, like she throws the thing int the air and when it's falling down she sees it and freezes? Idk I thought it was funny XD

  • @the24thcolossusjustchillin39
    @the24thcolossusjustchillin393 жыл бұрын

    Skyen I love you for introducing me to the concept of smearframes

  • @pokfen1812
    @pokfen18123 жыл бұрын

    10:21 and green and beige. Neeko more green, bcs that implies forest/jungle/nature, while beige for Lillia, bcs deers. Unfortunately deleting green parts from her design could make her less related to nature, while she is said to be borned from a flower.

  • @Dormant_Chrysalis
    @Dormant_Chrysalis3 жыл бұрын

    While I agree with your argument for Lillia not being so very child-like with the story she's been given. But I still think that, design wise, the chid-like concept art was way more interesting (and not as same-y as many other champions). She could have been written in a way for that more interesting concept to fit her. But she wasn't, and that's disappointing to me.

  • @Somersalsa
    @Somersalsa3 жыл бұрын

    I love lillia to death but why on earth would she have pink nails. Does she practices manicure or something?

  • @chickensalad3535

    @chickensalad3535

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean, why not?

  • @fretfulsumo0359
    @fretfulsumo03593 жыл бұрын

    I think you comments on the leaf clothing actually makes since, as she has a desire to meet humans because of their dreams, so she might have made those cloths in an attempt to replicate their clothing (and the sexiness might be an extension of that, it’s still very weird to me as well)

  • @caffeus8900
    @caffeus89003 жыл бұрын

    Hey there, i just wanted to say that i really love your what's the deal series, you know every day i just turn my headphones on and listen to your videos until i fall asleep. I really like that, feels like someone is talking to me, explaining to me, more like a lecturer explaining some subject and i just love listening and falling asleep moment, i just really appreciate you as an youtuber and would really love to see what's the deal videos more often !

  • @TurokRevolution
    @TurokRevolution3 жыл бұрын

    There may never be a League of Legends 2, but games like Project L or F could, and the Riot Forge games definitly will progress the lore. Also, character stories can evolve independently of how the character is portrayed in League of Legends. Yasuo's story progressed massively in Kin of the Stained Blade. With Yone forgiving him, he could finally forgive himself and is now free to travel Runeterra. While the ending of the cinematic hinted that he goes to Bilgewater with Ahri, there is the banner for the September update, which shows Yasuo and Taliyah in Shurima. Possibly hinting that Yasuo will continue to train Taliyah (even thought I'm not sure what an airbender can teach an earthbender).

  • @alexanderthealright

    @alexanderthealright

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Iroh would like a word with you.

  • @BlueberryBlanket
    @BlueberryBlanket3 жыл бұрын

    30:25 man every time you lose it I lose it. Great analysis, glad to have you back!

  • @basil4047
    @basil40473 жыл бұрын

    having clumsy/shy characters may be cheap but at least then i can afford to take their entire stock

  • @batmabel
    @batmabel3 жыл бұрын

    It's so absurd how the concept art for Lillia is *objectively* better than the final thing in every way, it fits her personality better, it is more original, it is more interesting... I wonder how many people in suits decided that she needed to be just a girl with two extra deer legs in order to sell better, because I'll bet you anything that it was a corporate decision. And this goes even if what you're saying about her being an young woman instead of a child holds true, because they could have just toned down the child-like features of her concept art, like making the head a bit smaller, the human part of the body a bit more slim and hell, even some breast-implied volume.

  • @chickensalad3535

    @chickensalad3535

    3 ай бұрын

    I disagree

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf14953 жыл бұрын

    Lillian and neeko similarities: hair colors, flower on head, part animal, younger girl, awkward socially, and isolated in their respective forests for a long time. There's plenty to split them. But they really did try to hit a lot of the same notes.

  • @Orbiicat
    @Orbiicat3 жыл бұрын

    as a lillia main, i started playing her just bc shes cute and im a simple lesbian, BUT she actually CAN be confident, as the bud in her head flowers and blooms, AKA w her passive,her lines and expressiones become more assertive and comfident

  • @ellieclay73
    @ellieclay733 жыл бұрын

    lillia: :o skyen: *wheeze*

  • @matheus090401
    @matheus0904013 жыл бұрын

    Riot: We have more than 150 champions, a lots of then are completely forgotten, but lets make new ones. I want a girl this time. Designer: Oh, great… I guess. Let's try at least make something diferent from the previous ones. Riot: No, let's copy Neeko design, make another one Hecarin and put that nose that every previous female character already have. Designer: Why? Riot: I like money

  • @spartansc5039
    @spartansc50393 жыл бұрын

    The garden of forgetting is called like that Cuz what happens in Ahri short history.

  • @Lyam695
    @Lyam6953 жыл бұрын

    I've never been let down by one of your videos. You always have an interesting take !

  • @tappycard2050
    @tappycard20503 жыл бұрын

    I really love the disney aesthetic for her character more than I thought I would. She is a cute and loveable character, but her design is pretty lackluster. I like her color scheme, but it just looks too similar to Neeko. These two characters have nothing to do each other, so it's a little weird for them to look so alike. I also wished that she was less humanoid especially in the face. I know riot can do so much more with character designs to make them unique, but they usually just resort to sexiness to sell skins, however I understand that from a business standpoint. But riot have done great concept art that looks better than the final product that they have given us. So while I really do like Lilia's personality, her design could definitely be improved on in my opinion.

  • @purupumpkin
    @purupumpkin Жыл бұрын

    Before I watched your content I thought smear frames were only in drawn animation so it's honestly a joy every time so see them lol it must be every artists dream to have their work details reviewed and seen by 70k people who all are here to appreciate and think about the extra stuff they did thinking nobody would notice. To be honest it can be a good and bad thing that league characters don't always get developed. For me characters like Lillia, Neeko, Lulu, (and gwen if you include her runeterra story) currently exist in a place of magical bewilderment in my mind where I wouldn't mind if they never got any more development because the scenarios I imagine them going on in my mind are eternal and infinite in possibility and I think there is something about an unfinished story that you own in your mind that is beautiful and creative in its own way sometimes. For me they don't need to be anything more, they are simple whimsical characters that bring me joy and I find love in their interactions with the world around them. I have adored Lulu since I first started playing the game and I will adore her for decades more despite her getting basically nothing to develop her as a character, I imagine I will feel the same about Lillia. That being said I wouldn't necessarily mind if they added events for these characters as long as it does not confine their free spirited personalities to a box to make a plot happen. I think some champs do work better with stories for example Lucian, he had a captivating story and I was dying for a conclusion to it from the moment I saw him. Jinx, Vi, Ekko and Caitlyn have always clearly had a story there in Zaun and I've wanted to hear that one so badly too, we of course got that with Arcane so that itch is scratched for me but it's a shame they didn't get developed in game too because Vi especially feels like a shell of her Arcane counterpart.

  • @electrostaticdischarge5873
    @electrostaticdischarge58733 жыл бұрын

    For the detailed expressions, people can zoom in with scroll wheel in game and in idle moments going close up on your animations is funny so I think it’s part having fun but also partly for the players.

  • @monadoboy9639
    @monadoboy96393 жыл бұрын

    TB Skyen just laughing so hard at the smear frames was so funny and wholesome

  • @dazed4305
    @dazed43053 жыл бұрын

    This is the first time I've seen the early design concept and I definitely would prefer that one over the final♡♡♡

  • @fio_lume
    @fio_lume3 жыл бұрын

    37:21 "Once you created a character and put them in a certain place and have them occupy a certain niche or gimmick within the line of LoL champions, you kinda can't change them out of that." Fiddlesticks knows your location.

  • @TBSkyen

    @TBSkyen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fiddlesticks, like some previous reworks, are complete remakes of champions from the ground up. They essentially constitute new characters.

  • @fio_lume

    @fio_lume

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TBSkyen True, they completely 180'd the character. It would be funny to see characters change/evolve over the years while keeping their lore and story. But LoL has too many characters to make that the norm.

  • @joaogabrielviana9200
    @joaogabrielviana92003 жыл бұрын

    Personally, the thing in lillia that most resembles neeko, and vice versa, is her ears. neeko's hair is stretched to the sides of her head, and i can't look at lillia without remembering neeko's hair, while looking to her big pointy furry ears that so happens to be really close to a semi-same hair that makes both characters very lookalike.

  • @tulicloure

    @tulicloure

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The color scheme is only a part of it. It doesn't really matter that much in-game, but when you look at the splash arts, specially when it's just a close-up version on the head, the general shape of the characters is too alike. They even both have a flower in the hair. Quite unfortunate, and I feel like it could easily have been avoided without changing much of the model/design.

  • @kermm8056
    @kermm80563 жыл бұрын

    Love this new editing and the broken up parts of the video thing!

  • @dark_fusion1288
    @dark_fusion12883 жыл бұрын

    This video never happened. We all dreamed that it did.

  • @alexhaupt2134
    @alexhaupt21343 жыл бұрын

    Lillia's taunt is actually her psyching herself up to be cocky and then getting embarrassed, it's so cute! She says "Time to be mean Lillia!! ........ Did it work..?"

  • @ziforyu
    @ziforyu3 жыл бұрын

    as a lover of animation and design (sadly i am not able to continue the animation path), i love your discussions and enthusiasms that you put in these videos. cant wait to watch more~!

  • @LuneaDark
    @LuneaDark3 жыл бұрын

    I ended up falling in love with Lillia as a champion, I never had that much fun with a new champ in League (except the rework for Fiddle with the skin Surprise Party) and my friends are quite tired of me taking her to every role possible. Althou... yeah... her design is very "safe", there's so many wonderful creatures in Ionia based on LoR card art with gorgeous designs, why don't take advantage or inspiration of that? but I will give Riot that her personality and animations are just so fun, her kit is simple and she is easy to play. In another note, when you were talking about the Disney formula couldn't stop thinking that if LoL was a Disney product probably Yone will be her prince just for their interactions alone (both cursed, 100% humans). That was sweet of Riot to do their friendship honestly.

  • @Pteriidae
    @Pteriidae3 жыл бұрын

    Apart from all else that's amazing in this video, the animation bit is what I came for here. YES. Character animation, if not for that I would not love Lillia nearly as much as I do, even though she literally embodies all the fantasy quirks I adore. And seeing you gush over just how charming her animations are is such a treat! And I just gotta say: whoever put this much love and care into her expressions, I absolutely adore you. I know faces are not exactly something we're supposed to see up close in League, but imagine how much of a treat it would be if they were. (Of course it will never happen, so much work that doesn't give Riot profit would never become a standard, but we can always dream!)

  • @aidantrinh6653
    @aidantrinh66533 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know what it is, but drawing while listening to Skyen’s videos is just so relaxing.

  • @katiecathcart6774
    @katiecathcart67743 жыл бұрын

    Skyen has the most contagious laughter and it's fabulous

  • @overpoweredsoap5906
    @overpoweredsoap59063 жыл бұрын

    25:43 reminds me of that one sonic image where his face is all squished and he's holding up a ring lmao

  • @kirbybie
    @kirbybie3 жыл бұрын

    cowards didnt give lilia fur tuffs on her cheeks. looks so weird when her face is just smooth compared to literally all the rest of her.

  • @srcabalaza1581
    @srcabalaza15813 жыл бұрын

    God I loved the disney tangent, good stuff.

  • @spacecocaine1823
    @spacecocaine18233 жыл бұрын

    Y’know I genuinely would’ve wanted to hear the whole spiel you comedically cut out about what the Lillia Disney movie would’ve been like - it sounded kinda interesting!

  • @Space_Bones
    @Space_Bones3 жыл бұрын

    God the laughing fit with the smear frames was great, I was laughing too

  • @TheTaria05
    @TheTaria052 жыл бұрын

    "Even if we cut off her head, she'd still apologize." Skyen 2020

  • @VeylmanTheRock
    @VeylmanTheRock3 жыл бұрын

    God I love nothing more than you breaking down while breaking down (haha) a character's animation! It's the most deeply rooted joy I can experience as someone who's also highly interested in the craft of animation.

  • @VeylmanTheRock

    @VeylmanTheRock

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just thought of a pickup line for animators: Hey, wanna look at smear frames together?

  • @ramendampfen
    @ramendampfen3 жыл бұрын

    "Who grew from the butt of a tree" Heh hehe

  • @RGazell
    @RGazell3 жыл бұрын

    YAAAAAAAAAAYYY wtdw lillia finally. Bless you! Hope surgery recovery is doing well

  • @zeno3568
    @zeno35683 жыл бұрын

    Honestly by the far the best part(or maybe the most enjoyable fits it better) of any TBSkyen video are just the animation smirframes. I really like all the analysis and also critisism but I mean when something is bad/could be done better and you hear someone say it is bad and could be done better (like with Lilias nose, LoLs same face stuff etc) even though I agree with it it can sometimes get...idk somewhat exhausting (?) But then you get to the animations of the champs and once I hear TBSkyen just laughing his ass off about some stupid smearframe or freezefram it just cheers me up so much. It just makes me happy to see this man enjoying himself and the animation and laughing about it~

  • @gumbreaker624
    @gumbreaker6243 жыл бұрын

    31:51 if you use the scroll wheel during a game you can zoom in enough to see her face, so i guess they added that just in case. it _would_ be pretty weird to zoom in while she's taunting/doing something and see her completely expressionless.

  • @claw7705
    @claw77053 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious if the push for more detailed facial expressions is in preparation for the mobile version.

  • @bunny6503
    @bunny65033 жыл бұрын

    somebody should add the sound effects of the 3point jumps from the mario games somewhere into this video xD

  • @Me_Culp_
    @Me_Culp_3 жыл бұрын

    Love to hear your voice again!

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie2 жыл бұрын

    So, I am started playing LITERALLY because of yuumi. That was because I was looking for a new game to play with my boyfriend last year. I had already kind of created a LoL account to bond with my brother who is far away but never really played it. One day a friend of mine posted an Instagram story where she took a photo of her computer screen with yuumi on it. And that was the turning point I was like "let's play LoL" to my boyfriend everyday until he finally agreed and Yuumi was one of the first characters I bought. And when I was exploring though the characters to buy, I saw Lillia. I fucking fell in love with her. She, other than yuumi, was the only 6300 BE character I bought without even having the chance to test her. And even though I am not a good player, Lillia is just my play style. She works with speed, this is her strength, and it just... It's so good to play with her imo. And I played so much with her I know all her lines in my language. And when I read her story I cried and fell even deeper for her. Idk, I just wanted to talk about how much I love Lillia. I know she is something like a disney character but idc, she's exactly what I would aim to be. And I identify with her clumsiness and I like to hop around when I want to move fast, so yeah, I love her Edit: Also I just noticed it is Lillia's fault on why I find jinx's not moving her mouth and having the same face expression at all times extremely unsettling and why I only like playing with jinx from behing.

  • @konstantinlozankoski6125
    @konstantinlozankoski61253 жыл бұрын

    I honestly like the concept are for lillia more it looks more original (at least in the colour and magical part) and less like the Dota 2 character (I think she's called enchantress or something not sure)

  • @archerkuro4158
    @archerkuro41583 жыл бұрын

    Love the comedy you have been adding to these always adds more to enjoy Also if lilia was about a take on a child being forced into the world then she would be taking a big step into Annie’s thematic Lastly hope your mouth/teeth are doing well wisdom teeth suck

  • @cherrybomber1447
    @cherrybomber14473 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to facial animations and exaggerated smear frames, Dota 2 has League beat by 500 milee. I appreciate that Riot is doing detailed animations for once - I enjoy looking for facial details and taunts in the pregame. Still crazy how some faces look creepy ingame, this is the #1 played PC game in the world lol.

  • @p4160
    @p41603 жыл бұрын

    bruhhh the disney slide literally made me chuckle lmaooo

  • @treymtz
    @treymtz3 жыл бұрын

    The word you're looking for is Cervitaur

  • @Ha1cyon00
    @Ha1cyon003 жыл бұрын

    You can zoom in while in a game to a certain degree hence why I think recently they've been giving alot of facial expressions since sometimes people zoom in

  • @jj277360
    @jj2773603 жыл бұрын

    Came for What the Deal with Lilia. Stayed for the laughter 🤣

  • @balladeerjpg
    @balladeerjpg3 жыл бұрын

    i still remember when i first saw her cinematic i cried a little because pretty things make me cry and she was just so cute

  • @nathanchemise7260
    @nathanchemise72603 жыл бұрын

    I know this isn't necessarily your field but it'd be really cool to hear you talk about the character's voice in these videos, like there's some cool stuff to be said I feel like

  • @serx4994
    @serx49943 жыл бұрын

    32:15 Remember that players can zoom in while in game so that's the reason why they animated the face

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