First time hearing the New M2 being called light

@AnmolSingh-2911

8 ай бұрын

It's a truck, 2 GMA T50S can still weigh less than M2. Shame for BMW. Need to take a page out of Gordon's book. Some 1200-1300kg 450bhp light weight manual 2+2 is what we expect from BMW in place of M2 (Like 718 & 911).

@gr0schibre572

8 ай бұрын

LMAO

@ludda42

8 ай бұрын

Definitely not light

@lensoprezole5322

8 ай бұрын

​​@@AnmolSingh-2911BMW has chosen the luxury comfort segment to compete with Mercedes. That's why BMW's are so heavy. 718 is not a 2+2. And you're asking 1300 kg for an inline 6 engine car but even in the 90's, bmw was unable to do that. Barely porsche did with the first original boxster (Gen 986). Nowadays the only true purist sports car remaining on sale is named ND3 MX-5. It has all the ingredients, even the pretty soft suspension that gordon Murray likes for a road car. But unfortunately, in the next few years gasoline will become more and more expensive, so i am wondering if the new answer is the next 2027 Alpine A110 electric and 2028 Mazda RX-9 (iconic SP concept). Thinking wisely to make my decision between those.

@camryt

8 ай бұрын

All while being heavier than that M3 saloon. LMAO

The driver's volume could be better!

Honestly, I wouldn't take any of these cars. I would take the atom or 3RS but unless I had access to a track at least once a month - no way. Gimme a gt3, cayman gt4, C8 Z06, last gen m2, GT350, or Emira for back roads and I'll be a very happy camper. ps. how is the Emira not in this?

@AnmolSingh-2911

8 ай бұрын

GT3 or the new S/T, absolute legends of this generation. They are the cars we expected Lotus to build to replace Elise, if I were to use the precision words 'poised for perfection'.

I just don’t know why more manufacturers don’t use an idrive type of system , touch screen controls in a car is not only insanely frustrating, but also damn right dangerous .., I miss the idrive so much

The hatchback name is just not the same anymore…. The Honda is just a big ass “mid sized sedan” 😬

BMW M2 weighs over 1700kg. Light-ish? I think not!

@mickwrinkles2318

8 ай бұрын

When even the 'small' M2 is this heavy you know BMW does not care about weight. I'd be ashamed producing a fat car like this, but almost every manufacturer follows the same stupid path: next gen has to be faster, wider, grippier which means more weight. Mazda MX5 ND is the very few new mainstream cars that does not follow this fallacy.

@hassyg4083

8 ай бұрын

yeh British car reviewers have no idea what they are on about

@jazzbassjames6403

8 ай бұрын

@@hassyg4083 well I wouldn’t go that far. I think that sadly a car weighing 1700kg is indeed on the light side these days. I just wish that wasn’t the case.

@hassyg4083

8 ай бұрын

@@jazzbassjames6403 its the heaviest there

@bigladdan

8 ай бұрын

@@hassyg4083what as opposed to American reviewers?😂😂😂😂

Best video I’ve seen from Autocar in ages.

@autocar

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I’m rooting for the Peugeot.

Loving the P25. I have a V5 STi RA and tbh it doesn't sound that different. It is happiest zipping around at full throttle, it is a noisy, crashy car with an engine that sounds like a bag of spanners at idle, but boy do i love it.

205 GTI is clearly the best car there! Takes me back to the lane days with mates. I bought nine all in!

That p25 is beast

What a wacky collection of cars Just random selection

A couple of restomods and several "evergreen" models like Porsche, Ariel and M3/4. We have reached "peak car" and it's only downhill from here.

you guys could really benefit from some microphones in the cars

That Alpine is Gorgeous.

Thanks for making these videos. Sad not to see an Emira i4. Very interested in the Autocar Archive, might get a subscription for Christmas!

To be classified as a Sports Car it MUST have a manual gearbox and be light weight. The Audi and the Bmw are both knocking on the door of 2 tonnes, so where was the GR86?

Would be great if the outro wasn't twice as loud as the in-car commentary. Looking forward to the 5-1 video.

When did 1700kg become lightish?!

@Dyltheboy

8 ай бұрын

for real bro bmw sucks for that

Too bad you don't get 2024 Acura Integra type S(type R in a suit)

Great review ! So far I would probably elect the Alpine as favorite choice, for the simple reason that I have travelled in and driven one (the base A 110) and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. But then I don’t go on race tracks, just enjoy cars on twisties and mountain roads. Looking forward to reading what’s coming on the first five 👍

Surprised not to see a GR86 in with the pack

@asphalthedgehog6580

8 ай бұрын

And the ND Miata. Ok, maybe not the best on track, but that's only important for impressing your neighbours.

@danielbrown4579

8 ай бұрын

It featured in last year’s test.

@wasdwasdwwasd

8 ай бұрын

Too old and not as good as a GR86.

How on earth is that M2 heavier than the M3 saloon? Did they fill these bloated arches with granite?

The old M2 was heavy, mini muscle car so this latest one must feel like a tank. The new m3/4 are more like the previous gen m5/6 - great cruisers but not good when lots of change of speeds and twisty roads

If only the Integra type r dc2 was in that line up, got a feeling it would of done very well

Why is the audio in this video so quiet? Right click on this video and select “Stats for Nerds” where you will see KZread measure this video as more than 10 dB too quiet. That number is supposed to be 0.0 dB. Your team really needs to learn how to export video for KZread because you’re clearly using the wrong settings. Just lost me as a subscriber.

@peterjordansonthe2nd731

6 ай бұрын

The biggest problem is that he sounds like he has snot constantly dripping in the back of his mouth

GR86?

205 should finish in the top 4.

The Alan Partridge of car reviews 🥱

Anyone else still waiting for part 2 of last years?

that pro drive WRX must be so expensive

@mrlionrocks

8 ай бұрын

£600k

@BLITZKRIEG1

8 ай бұрын

​@@mrlionrocks😭

Bit of a Honda fan boy, so it's the M3 CS for me. Drove one up the Hill at FoS, and had a Comp for a week from BMW UK, mega kit.

Having a sports car test in Britain, is like holding the 100m sprint final at the beach. What's the point?! You spend all of your time apologising for the location, and learning or proving nothing. 🤷‍♂

@alfamonk

8 ай бұрын

what do you think is the natural habitat for a driver's car? Most of Europe has similar weather across autumn and winter, and our challenging roads really test the car, which is why a lot of specific chassis tuning happens in the UK.

*ND3 MX-5 is the answer* 👍

@FenderUsa

8 ай бұрын

next year for us brits

Great video 📸 Boyz 👌👍 your team is excellent

@autocar

8 ай бұрын

cheers cap'n

@fredericberthou

8 ай бұрын

@@autocarbonjour , votre magazine exixste t’il en français?

half a million for a moded impreza? someone pro drive having a laugh

Just wait for the Volume II

I'm surprised the Giulia QV isn't in the test

So to summarise this video; Autocar took a bunch of cars including a luxury GT, a long wheelbase hot hatch, two confused BMW cars trading on past glory and two serious performance cars and put them on a wet track. The better the cars are the worse they will be in the wet due to dry weather focused tyres. Oh and the capabilities of the Prodive are way outside what the Autocar hacks can approach.

You are aware that there are many cars that you do not test at these events. Smaller companies that could do well

A Caterham needs to be on the list, maybe part 2?

No idea why the jacked up Lambo and Porsche are in that lineup.

Why did the P25 owner replace the lovely original exterior bits with tacky, ebay looking aftermarket parts? 😂

Nice helmet 😊

“Car seats of the year”

RS7, type r are sportscars now?

M3 looked a mess in the wet.

911 gt3rs is supercar territory. The acceleration and insane downforce its a gt3 car thats road legal.

2cv Citroën 1939 coccinelle vw 1943 ????

I can see the cringe of manufacturers doing this competition on a wet track, while raining. Damn UK

FL5 Civic Type R > that porky squared out M2

Wheres the Emira???

No Cayman?

m3cs

I’ll take the Honda over the M2 all day. Let me guess the GT3 wins 😂

You don't really look like you're enjoying yourself there Matt ?

@autocar

8 ай бұрын

I was, just my bad concentratey face.

@tamasszabo8824

8 ай бұрын

@@autocar Concentratey face notwithstanding, this was the MOST enjoyable Autocar episode so far!

@hassyg4083

8 ай бұрын

he seems angry man in the video. wonder what happened

Literally none of these cars appeals.

@bestcrazyboy8487

8 ай бұрын

Stick to your EV then 🙄🤮

@alfamonk

8 ай бұрын

Practical Caravanning just running their 'retirement' special, might be more your thing

@flat6croc

8 ай бұрын

@@bestcrazyboy8487 Nice try but I've never owned an EV, or a diesel, or even a car with an auto box or a turbo charger. In fact in the last 20 years, the smallest engine I've run is a 2.5l six pot and in the last year I've done 17.5k miles at an average of 20mpg. But never mind facts! 😂

The BMW M2 is a stupid car that should not be within 100 miles of the Type R Civic

Why on earth is a 2 ton car in a battle to find the best driver's car? smh

Get ready to be roasted in the comments for choosing an RS7 instead of an RS3, as well as other omissions like the C8 or GR Corolla. Doesn't matter - still a decent shoot-out especially when a P25 and a GT3 RS is involved. :)

@autocar

8 ай бұрын

Ha, thanks. I think we tried to get a C8 last year and we don't get the Corolla at all, sadly.

@hassyg4083

8 ай бұрын

P25 is odd its a rally car no ide why its on a track

Terrible line up. Title should be “what press cars can we get for a shootout”

The Alpine looks ugly in the front - couldn't buy one just because of that

What s the point of taking a sterrato on a racetrack ? Second the mix of gar is too heterogeneous to be relevant. Bad autocar, bad 👎🏻

No Corvette?

@pauldavies7251

8 ай бұрын

This is the UK 🤦‍♂️

@ma7mgte

8 ай бұрын

Corvette is sold in the UK, right-hand drive even@@pauldavies7251

I'm so sorry. How can a film about the best drivers cars, be so slow and boring. Sorry You can do this so much better.

fiest

Got bored with the split videos

Awful sound on this🙉

NO EVs...Shame🤣

Possibly the most boring motor journalist I've ever witnessed 😴

@Under_Construction100

8 ай бұрын

Was looking for this comment 😂😂😂

@patrickbateman7122

8 ай бұрын

Been telling Autocar for years but they never listen 😒

@Under_Construction100

8 ай бұрын

@@patrickbateman7122 I don't know if you can remember Autotrader before being joined by Rory. This channel reminds me of the pre-Rory Autotrader. Sleepy, uninteresting, lacks fun.

@patrickbateman7122

8 ай бұрын

@@Under_Construction100 yes awful! I just don't belive Matts a good enough driver and so dull with it to give a true insight to the cars he reviews..

@christianlorenzen623

8 ай бұрын

Agree. Dull as dishwater

THEY BUTCHERED THE IMPREZA. Yeah, Prodrive built the WRC spec cars, but come on! So tacky. The looks of the stock Impreza Mk I are great, why did some arrogant engineers think they know more about aesthetics? Let designers do design, engineers do engineering.