Picked up a GR Corolla a couple weeks ago. At 73, ya don't have to stop living.

@MeltingRubberZ28

Жыл бұрын

Haha good for you. Blow some donuts in a snow covered parking lot. That car has gotta be a riot

@Dankershim

Жыл бұрын

You're a legend mate

@narrowistheway77

Жыл бұрын

How long ago did you order one? Those aren’t easy to get

@clu4u

6 ай бұрын

I’m the same age, got a 981 Spyder when I hit 70…

@JacesOwnWorld

6 ай бұрын

I hope you had the money in cash up front because at 73, you should…

I’m just so glad that car and driver continues to be a reference calibre source of information. The history needs to be maintained, and despite all of the competition, their testing at VIR combined their thoroughly driver oriented 10 best year after year, continues to be an irreplaceable resource for me. Thank you Carlos (and Csaba, you legend) and to the rest of the team. You’re all part of the legend.

@harlequin75

9 ай бұрын

I’ve followed them since the 80’s. They are predictable

This video is as good as the article. The only issue I take is that the majority of these vehicles are actually NOT available at your local dealership nor will they be because they won't take order. And if you're lucky enough to get the call you'll pay significantly over MSRP. Which begs the question, should this award go to limited edition models? If you don't agree or believe me, try to buy 5 of the 10 cars listed, you pick which 5. Let me know what happens.

BMW m340 should be on the list over the i4 right now. Ridiculously great balance of luxury, raw performance, and value for what it provides at its price point. Best all around priced “performance car”

I have a Cayman and it certainly isn't short on storage space - a trunk and a frunk has more than enough space for 2 people on a long road trip. Part of the secret is to use soft bags to pack your stuff in.

@danrook5757

Жыл бұрын

What about shopping bags

@DavidM2002

Жыл бұрын

@@danrook5757 She stays home.

@rcarter6885

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 Boxster and two carry-on bags fit easily in the Frunk. I also got two sets of golf clubs in by taking the clubs out and putting them behind the seats and then the bags in the back trunk!!

GM, Honda and Toyota are doing very well. Surprised not to see the Elantra N.

@pan4632

Жыл бұрын

Child labor and failing engines/transmissions probably disqualified it...

@mharro88

Жыл бұрын

Same best value car by far

@theofficialwizard2753

Жыл бұрын

Honestly

@theofficialwizard2753

Жыл бұрын

Honestly

@scottthomson9813

Жыл бұрын

Hyundai didn't pay them enough apparently

Carlos - wonderful writing, prose and delivery. Keep it up.

I took a short test drive in an i4 Spring '22 and thought it was terrific. I'm a lifelong Bimmer guy and am very pleased C&D likes it. I really didn't put it through its paces. Alas, that nutty grill and 2 pedals will keep it out of my garage in the foreseeable future. Kudos to GM for having more than one car in the list!!

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

Wow, an electric BMW with almost no need for a grill and BMW still stuck that super ugly giant nostril grill on it. BMW is super committed to the grill. The new M4 is supposed to be great, but I'm guessing a huge percent of potential buyers are staying away because of that grill. Its like a woman that you could tell would be really attractive if only she got a nose job.

@Dolby109

Жыл бұрын

Sadly I don't see it likely that any production electric car will ever have a manual. If I had the money I'd get several of the cars on the list right now as they will probably hold their value quite well.

@andyp91

Жыл бұрын

@@Dolby109 unfortunately, EV does mean no more manual. I'm 69 so figure I 'll never have to give up manual as long as I"m able to drive it. if you like them that much, take your time and shop around for something ! There are still plenty around. Honda, BMW, etc... E46 BMW can be a good choice. I have a '72 2002 and a 2002 330cic (E46).

@Dolby109

Жыл бұрын

@@andyp91 Yeah I have 4 manual cars and got one for my kid, so hopefully I won't run out :p Still really want one of the Blackwings but that's a bit out of my budget.

Great show. Great list of ten best Carlos Lago,!

@CarlosLago

Жыл бұрын

Thanks but it's a massive team effort! Kudos to the entire C/D crew for doing the hard work.

I could listen to this guy all day. Rented a cayman for Christmas, and im pretty confident that it was the greatest driving experience you could wish to have.

@irishsoccerguy

Жыл бұрын

How did you rent one?

@YEETYfrmXBOX

Жыл бұрын

@@irishsoccerguy an app called turo. If not many cars pop up around you, you can zoom out on the map and search a bigger area

@frankanderson4176

6 ай бұрын

I could barely stand this guy within the first minute. The over-animated, purposed exercise in creative writing type of dialogue with the up & down speech patterns then, he's a hand talker! Waving his hands & arms around, standing on his toes, etc., all meaningless. Enough with the storybook style already. A very distracting and annoying presentation.

@jamesm9486

6 ай бұрын

Wow Frank, you most likely hate Christmas as well@@frankanderson4176

I’m happy to see 3 of my favorite cars on this list, CT5-v blackwing, Z06 and the new accord.

Porsche always every day!!

Car and Driver continues to get confused by the BMW window stickers. Re the i4: The curved display with iDrive 8 is standard, not optional. The option you're referring to, "Curved Display with Head Up Display", is JUST adding the HUD. Nothing more.

@Dolby109

Жыл бұрын

Wow you owned them big time with your useless knowledge of one option.

Rich win again.. 🏆 under $30.000 is most common people. And that is a 6 yr bank payment.. 🏦 i love looking but most in our economy can only dream of owning one of these 10 best.

List shouldve had the Hyundai Elantra N

@willyjameshuff

6 ай бұрын

lol they can’t get past the god awful looks 😂

Brock Yates & David E. Davis would be proud of this true 10 Best cars list. Stay the new course C&D of focusing on enthusiasts cars seperate from SUVs. Trucks, COs. This 62 year old is even glad to see a worthy EV on the list. Thanks.

@donswier

Жыл бұрын

Would LJK Setright approve?

They should redo this but include the avg dealer markup into the price. Good luck finding a ZO6 for under 110k lol

@spartan63530

Жыл бұрын

GR Corolla and Civic Type R have crazy markups too 😂

@chrisdraudt3713

Жыл бұрын

100%

@andreisevostianov9525

Жыл бұрын

Even GR86s get $7500+ markups (CA).

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

Its still not a great time to be buying a new car, maybe better than a year ago, but still not good.

Couldn’t be happier with my 2021 Supra!

@germanengineering204

Жыл бұрын

B58 gang!

I’m glad these guys did a proper video on top 10. They are the superior motoring journalists in the US and I hope they do more pivots to video (which is where it’s at) content

You can't really walk into any Cadillac dealership and buy a CT5-V Blackwing 6spd. It's a little more difficult than that...

@pablonator3000able

Жыл бұрын

Some of us have better credit, everyone's scenario is different depending on your bank account.

@CaptainTonus

Жыл бұрын

@@pablonator3000able it's not a credit issue, it's a stock issue. Dealers don't have them in stock

@drew6116

Жыл бұрын

@@pablonator3000able yeah I didn't hear that as a financial thing

@Mike-lt6sj

Жыл бұрын

@@pablonator3000able 🤡

@pablonator3000able

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-lt6sj i apologize this comment left you in a state of retaliation.

Great walk around Thank you

3 GM, 2 Honda, 1 Toyota, 1 Toyota/Subaru hybrid, 1 Toyota/BMW hybrid, 1 BMW and 1 Porsche. Never thought I would see a Top 10 with GM taking 3 spots! Especially since this list doesn't include any SUVs.

Wow, awesome summary!

Why didn't the Mazda Miata (MX-5) make it on your list? Soft top or the RF. What a great car. It has been on there every year, since last year and this year.

@oldatarigamer

Жыл бұрын

It looks like the BRZ/86 has taken its place on this list.

@BDA0531

Жыл бұрын

@@layne4376 if they werent plagued by RTV issues then maybe.

@JC-lk3oy

Жыл бұрын

@BDA because the internet has never blown an issue out of proportion. The reality is it does look to be the RTV issue that's blowing engines. It seems to be an issue with the sump in general. Adding a baffle to the oil pan is the solution. So far, it seems most engines fail due to oil starvation during extremely hard cornering. Hence why the baffled oil pan is the actual solution. Obviously, you should remove the debris from the pickup tube while you're in there though. If you look at the pics of the rtv in the pickup, you will see there is still plenty of room for oil to flow freely. Pickup tubes are designed to have much more flow potential than needed, in general.

@BDA0531

Жыл бұрын

@@JC-lk3oy but the fact you need to do all of that for a brand new car is beyond ridiculous. New customers shouldnt have to worry about reliability issues

@oldatarigamer

Жыл бұрын

@@layne4376 Different more than superior.

A well thought out list. Condolences to Miata, Emira, Nissan Z, WRX, Hyundai N car. owners, etc. Nice to see Honda recognized for a great lineup, even if the Accord has seen better days. I am still enjoying my '18 Type R, and loved the SI that preceded it. Even as an owner of a 4 cylinder turbo hot hatch, a Boxster or Cayman without that glorious six cylinder just feels wrong. The cars in this list I most want to test drive? The CTV4 and CTV5. I drove the CTS- V - the 556 hp version, at the Bondurant Racing School and it was a relevation. I can only imagine how good this series is now.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a shame that Cadillac's final got it together but insists on going all electric. They can keep producing a few ICE sports sedans (that engine is a masterpiece so no more R&D really needs to be done), then the majority of their fleet can be EV commuting appliances and land yachts since quiet reliability is what those drivers really want. At least these last few Cadillac ICE cars are a fitting swan song, way better looking than anything Lexus or BMW has come out with recently and they have the performance to keep up!

@v7nf

Жыл бұрын

@@anydaynow01 we own a caddillac but we wont be going electric so to bad,good car I work at honda building cars and its a sound car,might be our next.

@marcosvaldes8910

5 ай бұрын

Love my 981 Cayman 3.4L H6. That engine sounds glorious.

I am glad that 7/10 cars on this list offer manuals.

Honda Accord: 1.5 liter turbo 4 w/cvt (hard pass) or a hybrid (harder pass).

I ❤my CT4 Blackwing!!!

@pablonator3000able

Жыл бұрын

If its 6speed manual never get rid of it.

@carlbeveridge384

Жыл бұрын

@@pablonator3000able Fully loaded 6 speed manual.

@jtthebrick3

Жыл бұрын

Same! Infared red with the manual! Keeping it until the wheels fall off!

@carlbeveridge384

Жыл бұрын

@@jtthebrick3 Wave blue with Sky Grey interior.

@jtthebrick3

Жыл бұрын

@@carlbeveridge384 Love it! Great combination! Actually headed out to the Cadillac V School tomorrow!

Very informative and great video!👑

I am enjoying my 2022 Corvette C8 2LT Coupe, it is just a fantastic sports car, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

@richardmichael59

Жыл бұрын

Damn well better for the money.

This is the best car that I have ever owned. Better than a M car, S car, or AMG car. Phenomenal steering and road feel.

Yaay. Supra on the list 3 years in a row. Makes us owners proud

Hmmm 2 out of ten in the stable albeit prior year variants. Wish I could try the Corolla…never thought that I would say that of a Corolla 😂

CD needs to do 10 Most Recommended For Real Peoples Budgets (ie. no luxury or sports cars)

@thesorrow312

Жыл бұрын

Thats what the civic and accord are for

That accord is too good looking to not get the 2.0 They need to find a way to make that available again.

@jmm1174

Жыл бұрын

Agree if they don't offer the faster 2.0T I would instead go for the previous generation

@remyd8767

Жыл бұрын

@@jmm1174 why wouldn't you go for the previous generation anyway? Cheaper, more reliable, more aftermarket parts

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

Indeed the 2.0T and traditional automatic.

Wait, the i4 is 1200 LBS HEAVIER THAN AN M3?!! Sorry but weight is the enemy of handling guys.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

Low CG helps, you can put a bigger tire patch on it but still.

New Accord looks like those old Taurus's, kind like my cousin's 2014 Sho.

@dominicflorov2752

Жыл бұрын

It looks like Jaguar XK, Audi A7, a little bit of Volkswagen Passat. Boring and bland! Where is Taurus 2014?

@d.block3148

Жыл бұрын

First thing i thought when i saw it was that it looked like the Taurus.

@dominicflorov2752

Жыл бұрын

@@d.block3148 🤯

GM killing it!

BRZ/GT86/GR Corolla/ GR Yaris ( euro) are a true definition of "Fun to Drive"🏆

@Dolby109

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure every manual car on the list qualifies.

Great list! Too bad it has to stay at 10 cars: Less than $110k, and on sale by January 31st.

Genesis G70!

"Chevy Malibu+" LOL's

@bloominguez

Жыл бұрын

It's funny because it's true. Perfect description.

i'll take one of each

nice reporting Carlos

718 FTW whoa checkout that Vette

Love the shoe booties during the Corolla review😂

RIP 1. Chrysler 300 ('23) 2. Dodge Charger/Challenger ('23) 3. Audi TT ('23) 4. Chevy Camaro ('24) 5. Toyota Avalon ('22) 6. VW Passat ('22) 7. Audi R8 ('23)

The GR86 just arrived to Sweden. Dealers here want over 40k, converted to USD. Not a great price range here unfortunately.

@kuladeeluxe

Жыл бұрын

You can order a base BRZ for $22,500 USd in Canada.

@k-van9570

Жыл бұрын

@@kuladeeluxe wow, what a price difference. Really wierd.

@andreisevostianov9525

Жыл бұрын

The same shit is hear in California. I’ve been shopping for it for a while. Looks like every dealer puts a markup $7500+ or wants you in the dealership for negotiating that markup.

@fortheloveofnoise9298

Жыл бұрын

I'm currently in Sweden, take me with you to the dealer, I'll haggle those MFers for you.

@Dolby109

Жыл бұрын

What do the alternatives cost?

I dunno. The C8 can be squirrelly at the limit. Design flaw?

The front seats in the two Supras i owned in the 1980’s were the best I’ve sat in….by far. They also had 150 hp……

toyota killing it i hope other manufacturers see people want exciting cars

@bobmitchell8012

Жыл бұрын

They are Crap.

@JacesOwnWorld

Жыл бұрын

Exciting if you are a midget that like low powered cars lol. Most people don’t care to spend money on overpriced kids cars that Toyota and Honda make.

Thank you! And, it's criminal to not showcase that Cadillac V8!

I want to like that i4 but those grilles are too much.

Toyota is killing it overall. Their lineup is diverse in engine, vehicle type, and design. I respect Toyota sees that going to a fully electric lineup is not the safest bet. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Smart businesses that deliver great products that people love always win, opposed to the companies that just follow the current trend.

@johnrose7212

Жыл бұрын

one of the Toyotas was a BMW. so BMW is killing it

@kobedabest

Жыл бұрын

@@johnrose7212 I don't see the Z4 on the list... So, Toyota made a better BMW thann BMW. 😂

@Mike-lt6sj

Жыл бұрын

@@johnrose7212 I will not buy any German electrical products, they're the worst electrical engineers in the world.

@RareAirTwo4

Жыл бұрын

@@johnrose7212 damn right. It should've been called the BMW Supra. The last Supra was the 1998 MKIV.

@RiverRat1953

Жыл бұрын

The first new car that I bought in 45 years was the 2023 Camry SE AWD and I am loving it immensely!

I have my eye on the CT5 Blackwing to replace my Panamera. I love my Panamera, but that 682 HP Blackwing just looks amazing.

Other than that battery powered car, I agree with everything else.

Corvette all the way C7 or C8 are best for the money 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

So no elantra N ?

@pablonator3000able

Жыл бұрын

Sorry Hyundai and kia

@psewgobind

Жыл бұрын

Lucky for me, since shorter wait.

@AmericanFreedomPatriot

Жыл бұрын

sorry Hyoundai & Kia are the modern Yugo or Junk Lada of cars now. litterally dollar-store disposable cars.

@pablonator3000able

Жыл бұрын

@@AmericanFreedomPatriot I still don't know how peeps spend 50k on their trash Genesis lineup

Fiesta ST is a blast.

On the list for a 2024 cyber yellow Ct4 blackwing.

Winter tires makes a corvette Ok in winter? Maybe in Florida.

So many manuals this year making the list. I think most folks know most enthusiasts have come to realize what they're missing. And auto companies have become better at making manual transmissions people can live with on the road.

This list reminds me of why I always preferred Motor Trend.

@avirgilio71

Жыл бұрын

My sentiments exactly. Such a typical C&D list choosing sponsoring manufacturers. Not a very objective process IMO

FL5 CTR🔥

As much as those Corollas are being marked up to, I'd rather take the better performing and better looking CT4-V Blackwing.

Too many of the cars on this list have MSRP way beyond common buyers' budgets. It'd be nice to have a separate list comprised of more affordable vehicles.

@fluffymustdienow

Жыл бұрын

A 50K and below list would certainly be nice.

@richardmichael59

Жыл бұрын

C&D take note?

@anthonyr1930

Жыл бұрын

Those wouldn’t be the “best” though. So that would defeat the purpose

@fluffymustdienow

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyr1930 I mean, why cap it at 110K when these couldn't possibly be the "best" cars compared to [insert ridiculously expensive car here *cough* porsche 911 turbo s]. There is a conditional here, just as there would be for "best vehicles under 50K". You can still find the "best" in a category.

@anthonyr1930

Жыл бұрын

@@fluffymustdienow that’s true, this list they do is for average people I suppose. A list under $50k wouldn’t really be interesting in my opinion. There would be virtually no differences.

Larlos Cago!!!!

Gazoo owns three spots, amazing... congratulations to that team.

@bobmitchell8012

Жыл бұрын

Gazoo is such a ridiculously stupid name.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

Yep it's a pretty awesome Toyota sponsored tuning house, their tuner version of the BMW Z4 would be my favorite if it weren't for the ugly body kit they put on it.

Top 1 & 3 spots are the product of partnerships! Maybe this is a good omen for 2023.

@sunrisesunset1734

Жыл бұрын

From where did you glean this incorrect information?

@hardchemist

Жыл бұрын

@@sunrisesunset1734 Oh yeah, #2 was the Corolla, right? #3 is the BRZ/GR86. I have a BRZ on order so I accidentally inflated the ranking lol

@sunrisesunset1734

Жыл бұрын

@@hardchemist Lol, congrats. I prefer the Corolla because of AWD and the option to dial in power distribution to front or rear, mainly because you can drive like a lunatic on any surface, tarmac gravel and snow!

@hardchemist

Жыл бұрын

@@sunrisesunset1734 I know, and that sounds very cool, but there's just something about having at least one RWD sports car in your life. I'm down in FL so this is probably all the traction needed :)

@sunrisesunset1734

Жыл бұрын

@@hardchemist agreed, donuts make dozens lol

You know you are killing it when car&driver gives 3 spots of the best cars 2023 to your brand. The craziest thing is, the Lexus LC500 and the IS350 could also rightfully defend a good spot in this list. It's crazy that the brand we associated for so long with boring cars, are putting one of the most exciting cars of the end of the ICE era on our roads.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

I still think they should have rebadged a budget version of the LC500 as the new Supra like they were planning to, like the Nissan Z the real Supras were always just fast fun touring cars, then if they wanted to sell a tuner version of the BMW Z4 call it something else. The advertising department won in the end though so slap a Supra badge on a Japanese tuner version of German engineering and sell them like crazy to the Fast and Furious nostalgia crowd, and sell they have, though for 60k I would rather take the better looking M40i and "tune" it myself with some Öhlins DFVs.

My gr86 is so much fun to drive, I go the long way everywhere.

Will the EV charge at 5* F? Or will you be waiting for the battery to warm up; which at 5* it will not do!

3 Toyotas on a C&D top10? Am I dreaming? Best-selling brand (excluding Tesla) is starting to make cars people want to buy besides just the “economy”. LOVE IT! Keep them coming Toyota!

I think the BMW M240i is a much better version of the Toyota Supra. It comes in RWD and AWD so you can drive in comfortably in northern climates. It has a back seat and a larger boot. It even has a much nicer interior. The only thing it lacks is that manual transmission but xDrive is so brilliant you don't miss it.

All great choices by C/D, only missed the Porsche 992 GT3 and GT4RS, the Hyundai pocket rockets Elantra N and Kona N. And the still ongoing Alpha platform great handling 6th gen Camaro SS, SS1LE and ZL1.

@itnoked

6 ай бұрын

Remember the price cap…

Didn't see a camaro had 3 since 2016 started with a ss than a 2020 zl1 and since I heard it's going away I traded it for a 2023 zl1 convertible and no I'm not a chevy fan boy I own a escape and just recently sold wife's explorer for a telluride and I most say kia did a awesome job

The Alpha platform Cadillacs r the only ones I like on the list , but I prefer the Camaro ZL1

Lago is the best in the industry for video content on cars

GR Corolla FTMFW

I always prefer suv than sedan it's comportable excellent driver view and safety.

I’m still waiting for a manual vette, now that will be fun. not that it isn’t already but ya know

Amazing that the Edsel was considered ugly. Have you seen the new BMW and Toyota products. Lol.

GM has 3 cars on the list...kudos to them.

@RexKarrs

Жыл бұрын

How dare they? I can't wait for the Japanese and German-car fanbois to respond with their usual condescension.

@danrook5757

Жыл бұрын

Wheres the delta 88

The only thing I wish is that the Black Wing batch were Black!!

Love my brz

I’d leave the accord or Civic out and put in the BMW M240i. I can’t believe it didn’t make the cut.

Toyota...I'm impressed. Keep making fun gas powered cars.

Nice to see BMW on this list twice. A great return to form for the roundel from Munich

@mbojilov1

Жыл бұрын

I only saw one BMW on the list. Where was the second?

@number1Schumacherfan

Жыл бұрын

@@mbojilov1 The Supra is a rebadged BMW

@mbojilov1

Жыл бұрын

I did hear them say that but they didn’t say which BMW - a rebadged 3 series, 2 series, etc.? And why isn’t that original on the list but it’s the rebadged product?

Yeah. Where is the MX5/Miata?

Carlos Lago,is the best car journalist of all time,great elaboration and very intuitive.Keep up the fantastic work.

@nicholassmith7048

Жыл бұрын

Looks like we've found Carlos' mom's alias.

The BRZ continues to impress me

Although I enjoy Car and Driver this top 10 list is basically vehicles that the average consumer could not afford which is sad. Most of the vehicles in this list are over $45,000. Basically if you're not making $100,000 a year you're not driving or owning any of these cars maybe you should do a separate segment for everyday drivers

What about the Yugo 55? Very nice car,my father ownes one.

@danrook5757

Жыл бұрын

What year

For any other Brits watching this remember that when he is quoting fuel consumption figures in mpg that will be in USgallons = 5/6ths of our imperial gallon, so 50mpUSgall equals 60mpimpgall.

Some of the dealer markups on some of these cars kill them. 20k upsell for Civic Type R is silly.

I think Hyundai should have appeared in the list as honoured mention.

i belive regardless of what people of today say the manual supra will be a legendary car in the future a last call to the great japanese turbo rear wheel drive manual gearbox sports car

OK, how much did honda pay to get the new accord on this list . the new accord is slower and in my opinion, doesn't look as good as the last gen , not to mention car and driver haven't even released a proper test on this new accord.

no elantra n ?

I mean if supra is offered at 45k I would gladly take it, at the end of the day I don't care if the interior is made of rich material or cheap plastic. This is one thing the fanboys don't care and they just still sell it to us anyway.