What's Next For WWE & TNA Partnership? NXT Battleground 2024 Review! WrestleTalk Podcast
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What's Next For WWE & TNA Partnership? NXT Battleground 2024 Review! WrestleTalk Podcast
00:00 - Start
01:11 - Roxanne Perez vs. Jordynne Grace
16:42 - Where is NXTNA Going Next?
22:10 - Everything Else In Wrestling
26:41 - Women's Ladder Match
34:16 - OC vs. Frazer & Axiom
41:04 - Baszler vs. Vice
49:37 - Femi vs. Lee vs. Coffey
58:31 - Williams vs. Page
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It wasn’t the most stellar NXT show, but it was a solid time. Perez/Grace was my MOTN, Oba is a star and Sexy Red, Lola Vice and Rancid Kelly Clancid (shoutout to the Cultaholic Wrestling Podcast) twerking was not on my wrestling bingo card for 2024
Don’t feel old Dan, I’m 25 and also have no idea who Sexy Red is either
@davidoreilly7328
18 күн бұрын
You and me both buddy
You guys praised the hell out of the Oba Femi match, and yet I still think you're underselling it (and him). He's just so good. He doesn't have a ton of charisma, but he does have charisma oozing out of his pores. He's got that energy to the way he carries himself, like it's almost a dance, with those crazy eyes and that swagger - it's infectious as hell. They try to book him as a heel, but he's just so entertaining that the crowd refuses to behave like he's not the face. And then he wrestles, and he's everything you said he is and more. He just looks so damn powerful. It looked like he threw Wes Lee 15 feet in the air. He tossed him so high it was a bigger bump than anything in the ladder match. This is the second Triple Threat match (which I find to be a very difficult match type to pull off well) where he stole the show and not only looked like an unstoppable force himself, but also made everybody else look so good that I found myself caring about them much more than I did before. I developed real positive feelings about Joe Coffey and Josh Briggs (and developed even stronger positive feelings about Wes Lee and Dijak) as a result of watching them fight Oba Femi. He's not the biggest giant in WWE history, but I feel like he's the giant that they've been looking for for a long, long time. He's everything they wanted Omos to be. And then at the end of the matches, he holds the belt in his teeth! What's not to love? This dude is THE GREATEST.
As much as I enjoy all the women involved in the ladder match Kelani Jordan was THE LAST one I expected/wanted to win. IMO that title had Sol Rucas name written all on it. My second pick would have been a coin toss between Falon and Lash, with Jaida being a close 3rd
@owaiscarneiro226
18 күн бұрын
I am a tna guy and nxt black and gold I didn't know any women except mia yim but I really liked kelani
@beejay271
18 күн бұрын
@owaiscarneiro226 she's not bad in the ring for being very new. She just has the least heat out of all the ones I mentioned. Sol Ruca was probably the odds on favorite based on popularity (and the fact her move set is AWESOME) with Jaida, probably second if you're judging by internet popularity and exposure not necessarily in ring work.
@brentsmith9134
18 күн бұрын
Sol was never the favourite to win buddy
@jamesmaclennan4525
18 күн бұрын
Went into the match wanting Kelani to win and was quite satisfied with the result.
After watching Oba Femi, my fantasy booking for his main roster debut is him debuting at Summerslam next year- answering an Open Challenge from Gunther. The match goes like Lesnar vs Cena, with Oba Femi being the Lesnar of the match.
Oba Femi is what I bet people wanted Omos to be.
@blacksuede
17 күн бұрын
Not sure since Omos is 7'3 and limited mobility wise
Honestly thought Henley was going to win the lasder match. Definitely felt like a rushed finish to the march. Not even like a last minute brawl on the top to see who would actually win. Split legged moonsault shouldn't of been the last move of the match unless it was from two ladders
@leonzaduncan2438
17 күн бұрын
The 1 white girl winning, with 5 other black women. Nah, I'm good.
I'm a bit gutted that there is no Smackdown and Collision review 😢
@expertvods501
18 күн бұрын
Collision was really good this week too, so really unfortunate.
@Tombobuck
18 күн бұрын
@expertvods501 Yeah it was awesome. The Owen is going to be insane!
Dijack and Eddie thorpe had the best underground match
Why is this not LIVE?
@sterlinggiard7927
18 күн бұрын
Insert Garfield quote
@kahulol
18 күн бұрын
@@sterlinggiard7927 Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
if the partnership with tna becomes an official thing with tko, i think the ufc apex would be a cool venue for tna to use as a home
I agree with Tempest. I was watching that underground match and everytime one of them was mounting the other laying into them all I could think was, "if this was UFC, the ref would have already stopped the fight."
I can potentially see a situation where, if they feel Trick isn't progressing enough in-ring as champion, they have Oba Femi do a Keith Lee and win the NXT title from him while North-American champion, then vacating the lower title the next NXT episode. Ethan Page would then be a strong candidate to have hold that title until a new young star is ready to beat him for it
6:33...Anthem Bullet Club??? Tempest, you are on to something there. Never thought of ABC in that way. Ace & Bey were inducted into The Bullet Club by Jay White.
WHAT IS ASH BROOKS DOING IN THE NXT ZONE!
Wes Lee reminds me of that wining wolf kid from the Twilight movies and his “it should be me” attitude.
That women's title match should have been the main event.
The women's match should've been the main event. ❤
All the other NXT underground matches have been great. It is a shame that this one didn’t match the others and probably the one most people watched.
If nxt and tna keep doing this and keep getting better a lot wrestling pod cast might have to do reviews soon
We need NXT reviews and podcasts back
Regardless of how it came across, Ash By Elegance was there to further the TNA storyline with her and Jordynne, likely at Slammiversary.
When did 'Prohibited Portal' become a thing? I must have missed it...
@raymondmcmahon2037
18 күн бұрын
He coined it on the podcast
@fscorpion678
18 күн бұрын
@@raymondmcmahon2037Nah Jordynn coined it when she showed up
I get the finish of the match wasn't clean but Roxanne vs Jordynne needed to be the main event, it was something historic and the best 1v1 match, Trick is more over but the main event matches are yet too big for his shoes, the only good matches he has had are the Ilja ones, and that's cause Ilja is sooo good
Give me Oba Femming vs Moose in a meat of the mountain match
Seems like this felt like an NXT PPV at the Performance Center
I’m not here for the Dan Jaida Parker slander 😤😤😤😂😂😂
It feels a little like what WWF and ECW did back in the day.
@joseconcepcion6949
18 күн бұрын
That’s why wwe can not buy tna or they’ll close there door I will NEVER trust wwe to buy another brand of wrestling I rather aew at least ROH is still around wwe track record sucks just ask wcw and ecw
@Oldschool1943
14 күн бұрын
@@joseconcepcion6949 ROH company is dead Tk purchased it and it's apart of AEW brand
great weekend of wrestling - Battleground was a lot of fun and the Dominion main event was sick
23 seconds! Grace vs. Perez was my MOTN. I figured Perez would retain but those women cooked last night. Imo the main event suffered a little for having to follow it.
@diabeticman2194
18 күн бұрын
Main event wasn’t even a bad match imo, I really enjoyed it but the momentous occasion of the women’s championship match made it a bigger match than Trick/Page
Nice review
What if this nxtna thing is a precursor to a wwe x tna survivor series.
THE GRACE MATCH WAS AWESOME 🔥🔥🔥…BUT DAN THINKING WWE DIDNT BRING IN DANA BROOKE FOR A BIG POP IS COPE
The analysis of Ethan Page is spot on. They booked him into a make or break spot, and he looked like any other dude. At a time when WWE has so much talent that even some of the most promising NXT prospects aren't able to establish a role on the main roster, Ethan Page did absolutely nothing to stand out or be at all memorable. For his sake, I hope he can turn it around quickly.
My first I quit match was batisita vs John cena
I’d love to see Joe Hendry vs LA Knight I personally think it would be a fantastic match
PCO vs Bron Breaker
45:14 JUSTICE FOR LUKE OWEN, the only man in wrestletalk history who had his two cents when he said the aew texas chainsaw match was actually good and not for everyone then immediately got trolled. over time I have come to realise that Luke is on to something, you are right Luke. I am your father, and also math greater than pipebomb.
37:15 😂😂😂😂😂😂
For me this show was just a special house show. Nothing really happened, and I was disappointed in the tna crossover.
@beejay271
18 күн бұрын
Same. The NXT women's title match wasn't bad, but people are talking about it like it was a 5 star classic. Am I missing something?😕
@michaelsinger4638
18 күн бұрын
Roxy no-selling Grace’s finisher, eh.
@emeraldninjalink6312
18 күн бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 from one of the reviews I watched they said she countered it.
@TheOnlyTMEOfficial
18 күн бұрын
@@michaelsinger4638 she reversed it with a cutter.
The "Prohibitive Portal" is a dumb fan made moniker for the TNA-WWE crossover. AT least use a WWE marketing term, like "Invasion". That's what this was, a TNA invasion angle. There is no "Forbidden Door" style partnership yet.
Masha Slamovich showing up would have been really cool.
People keep bringing up this is not helping TNA in the ratings. It's not gonna help TNA much in the ratings because only about half of America gets AXS TV where TNA airs.
@intothevoid81
18 күн бұрын
Their partnership with AEW helped them in the ratings and PPV buys
@bonusbaby801
18 күн бұрын
@intothevoid81 , yes, it increased viewership by a bit. But what I am saying is that because AXS TV is only available in about half of American homes, TNA viewership isn't gonna suddenly go to 500,000. Look at Women Of Wrestling that are currently on The CW & pulling 250,000-300,000 viewers a week because The CW is available in twice as many homes in America. If TNA was on The CW, I have no doubt they would consistently draw 500,000 plus viewers. They are more than good enough for that.
@TheWonderwallLopes
18 күн бұрын
@@bonusbaby801 "If TNA was on The CW, I have no doubt they would consistently draw 500,000 plus viewers. They are more than good enough for that." no they wouldn't, be serious.
Look, we know Cody is gonna be on NXT, why not just have Moose come out and have them have a face off, holding their belts up. Nothing needs to come of it but it would be a moment. And, if you don't want to use Cody for that then replace him with Oba Femi. Can you imagine Oba Femi and Moose facing off with their belts in the air!!!! Why the hell not!!!!
Shawn Micheal’s to Tna
Personally, with Ethan Page I feel like he is very much a jbl, or the miz type wrestler where you can put him as a mid card champion like the north American championship and they're great in the role. But if you try and push them beyond that, they just realistically don't work for one reason or another.
No smackdown or collision 2 weeks especially after a great ftr bcc match 😢
I cringe every time I see sexy red because I think about that horrible song with drake and it looks like she's bored out of her mind
@VhaidraSaga
18 күн бұрын
She got go away heat at my watch party
Considering TNA's questionable financial situation right now, it feels like this 'partnership' is just the first step towards TNA being bought by WWE and WWE getting its tape library. It is pretty well known that HHH wanted WWE to buy ROH, and wasn't happy when Tony Khan got it instead because Vince didn't see the value in buying ROH, I don't think he'll want to miss that opportunity again. TNA has a 20+ year tape library full of some of the best (and worst) moments in pro wrestling history as well as a lot of video footage related to all kinds of WWE talent past and present.
@Oldschool1943
14 күн бұрын
just stfu and enjoy the crossover stop wanting to see a company die for ur own ignorance
@Oldschool1943
13 күн бұрын
it's like u have memory lost or something bcuz it sure work before with ecw brand right LMFAOOO! "TNA has a 20+ year tape library full of some of the best (and worst) moments in pro wrestling history as well as a lot of video footage related to all kinds of WWE talent past and present." ah yes the library buy a whole company only for the library this is most braindead take that i've ever seen from out of a wwe slurpier LOL no logic whatsoever how about working with each other so everybody can benefit so there's more opportunities and more places to go.
WWE x tna Ringwrestling
It would have been interesting if Jordynne Grace won the NXT tittle. Would have shown that anything can happen. Understand why they didn't but it would have made this Prohibitive Portal thing more impactfull, pardon the pun.
@Oldschool1943
14 күн бұрын
it would be cool to see that it'd would gave me flashbacks of RVD winning WWE championship in ECW arena.
It was an okay show, but nothing happened to justify the big buzz that NXT had received lately.
I hope Roxanne shows up in TNA to have a rematch for the KO title, as she beat the champion, and then you could do a title for title match even.
I found literally see "that's Dana Bro-uhh l mean TNA superstar Ash by Elegance" written on the page as Vic spoke. Just like how he literally said "Holy Ess" on Tuesday when "Holy S---" was definitely written on the sheet.
It was not a BAD show, but it was just kind of there. The Women’s Ladder match was fun. But the least interesting person and least developed character won. And frankly the match itself and the finish did her no favors because they just showed why OTHER women would have been cooled winners. The Tag Match was solid. Glad Lola won. They should use her beating Nattie and Shayna to really start pushing her. Roxanne vs. Jordynne was really good. But with a predictable outcome and I don’t think the finish worked either. Trick vs. Page was, fine. But again meh finish. It felt like NXT had multiple opportunities to make this show really memorable. And did not take any of them, which was disappointing.
It was an incredibly average weekend for wrestling. Collision was average, dominion was average, and battleground was disappointing. It was a very 6 or 7 outta 10 weekend. Which ISN'T BAD... But it also isn't anything special. I didn't feel I'd wasted my time watching anything, but I also won't be rushing back to watch anything
This show messed up my WrestleLeague. Lol But in all seriousness, a lot to enjoy from this show. I’m not oppose to Kelani winning, it really just took me by surprise. Not to take away from her, but I was rooting for Lash. Oba Femi is quickly becoming a new fav aswell
Hear me out, Survivor Series: NXT TAKEOVER Saturday of course, NXT v. TNA Sunday: Raw v. Smackdown The build up could be beautiful if done correctly which I have faith in this creative team to do.
Ethan "Ego' Page and " The Walking Weapon" Josh Alexander, THE NORTH, were a great tag team!!
Hot take: this show was mid asf at best. Sol and Ethan should have won, and Dana Brooke (i refuse to call her by her shit gimmick) is unbelieveable as a champion. This should have been an episode of NXT.
Hope the Red Menace is gone soon
I watched Ethan Page vs Darby Allen feud in the indies. Ethan Page made the feud with his promos. He was a bigger guy Darby could beat. He's from Canada, so I may be bias🇨🇦
This was soo much Beter than Double or nothing At least...
I don't like listening about Mega-Star Juggernaut Bad-Ass Jordynne Grace (💪🏼)🏆 anymore! (WWE/TNA) might pull the lollipop out of the baby mouth 🍭! Us (fans) being the baby! I'm not sure we will see her on (NXTNA) again?🍼
It would have been so much more interesting and dramatic if Grace just won. I suddenly during you two talking about TNA, i suddenly have a feeling we'll see AJ in TNA soon
This was the first NXT show I've watched of this HBK era, and I am not giving it another try. Perez vs Grace was amazing inring work with a horrible finish but I did not enjoy anything else on this show, the ten minutes on peacock between each match also made this feel unwatchable. The sexxy red stuff is horrible television & even worse considering who she is, and none of this is mentioning how bad Ethan/Trick was and made the guy I was excited to see get the spotlight like Page look like an absolute clown who didn't belong.
Coudnt sell 750 tickets lol
Half assed effort, surely theres two of you who watched Collision. A very good Collision as well.
@landog606
18 күн бұрын
WT is not for the sickos
I think former (NXT) Champion Wes Lee (🔥) & LeBron -Je'Von (🔥) should become a Tag Team all the way to Wrestle Mania...🤔💭 We (Fans) need a intensity high flying Tag Team. Haven't had an exciting Tag Team since The Hardy Boys....🤔💭
I like Dan he's a good guy he's like a less boomer version of Luke, because Luke so old he old enough to be my dad, and I'm in my mid 20s. And I like Tempest because he's a wrestling nerd like myself he likes Japanese wrestling and indie wrestling and the minutiae of wrestling and wrestling moves.
Getting a thumbs down guys. 2 weeks in a row with no smackdown review. You could do a breaking news video of ricochet leaving but can't do a smackdown review. Ugh
Aew is doing this so lets just copy it with other American promotion so they can still speak English lol what a joke
@Juan.s_Potatoes
18 күн бұрын
Idk how to tell you this but AEW didn't invent partnerships
@The_Cosmic_Overlord
18 күн бұрын
tribalistic aew lovin mf!
Ethan Page carried Trick, your bias is showing
The OC got fucked over in wwe they should not ever sigh with wwe should of stayed in tna and aew wwe always fucked over new Japan guys or tna guys Cody and aj only ones who haven’t been burn 🔥 OC leave wwe guys please 🙏 go back to new Japan they need you
How could you be a pro wrestling fan and not enjoy watching and following combat sports like MMA and boxing ?? 🤨🤔
TNA should abandon the deal. No chance in hell would a top champ go to TNA and lose in a match. The main roster champs don’t go to NXT and lose clean so why did Jordan?
Sorry... But this was a boring episode. Let down 2day.