Here’s the main channel video I mentioned. The past is the future and time is folding in on us. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nGSrkreIhMrIodo.html

The age of filmic looks is at an end The age of re-interlacing and exporting in 60i has begun This is a joke unless I'm right

@Sebbir

Ай бұрын

Does anyone like interlacing?

@TheADHDM

Ай бұрын

@@Sebbir Some of my editing clients ask for it. They wanted "old camcorder lines" for a skate video, another for a music video.

@mirelchirila

Ай бұрын

thank god I bought a whole load of 3ccd cameras for cheap then :D

Try this for making your next two youtube videos: shoot and edit all in film (example: a flatbed film edit machine) , and use a computer strictly for digitizing it for uploading.

Interesting perspective, Shaffer! Definitely excited to see what happens 👀

You nailed it. I'm a DP in the commercial film space... and the renaissance of both 16mm and 35mm film being shot on large scale commercial productions in the last 2-3 years has been growing massively. Similarly to how anamorphic was all the rage in the commercial space back in 2017, and then made its way to a consumer level, it's only a matter of time before motion picture film goes widespread again. I've already seen a lot of 16mm being shot by "prosumers" in the last year. Exciting stuff!

…but Shaffer, some of us used film for 35+ years before getting a Sony digital camera (in my case a Sony Mavica that saved to a 3.5” floppy disk). Now those same boomers are archiving their 35mm slides from 30, 40 or 50 years ago and making them look crispy and clean again using Topaz Ai! 📸🎥❣️

@spikeboydell

Ай бұрын

Let’s stop using our Apple Silicon M1 through M4 and save to 3.5” floppies again so our images can look ‘oh so 1999’ again… or perhaps not.

@evilshaffer

Ай бұрын

A very valid counterpoint 😂

@spikeboydell

Ай бұрын

@@evilshaffer… yes, just an old blokes perspective. But don’t worry, I think I will always love your perspective and enjoy everything you share/create ❤

@complexrealpropertyrights

Ай бұрын

Agreed 🛶

Came here from your snowboarding video and have really been loving the film you've been uploading. I'm a hobbyist 35mm photographer and a large part of the ideal for me is as you said - the fact that there are imperfections. I really enjoy that the end result is more about the process and story behind the shot rather than a "hey, look how perfect this picture is". Looking forward to seeing you (and hopefully others!) shooting more film!

Its kinda tricky. As someone who learned cinematography with a Bolex, and edited my first docs on a reel to reel Steenbeck editing suite, I fully hope for a film resurgence. But I don't really see the issue of cost being overcome. The democratization of filmmaking is a direct result of the lowering of cost of equipment, processing, storage etc. But the cost of producing work on film has never, and will never change. Its actually only gotten more expensive. Its not any easier to be an independent filmmaker shooting on celluloid today than it was 50 years ago. The reason theres so many more independent filmmakers today is because we developed different tech to make it more accessible. The old tech still suffers from all the barriers to entry that it always did. And I totally get your comment below about people shooting YT videos on Alexas. But again, thats just the cost for the tool, the media itself is essentially free and limitless at that point. The equivalent would be someone buying a 35mm motion picture camera (The Alexa in this analogy) to the tune of a gazillion dollars, and then also having to spent another 500 bucks for every 4 minutes of footage, FOREVER. Its just too cost prohibitive to be realistic. I LOVE 8 and 16mm, but in the image making world its the equivalent of SD camcorders. Sure, theres been a big resurgence in those too, but I don't think its any more likely to see YT channels converting to shooting entirely on them. Its still more of a niche or novelty aesthetic for specific purposes. Unless the entire ecosystem of media changes, to favor less and shorter content, I don't think celluloid has a legitimate seat at the table. YT exists because of how prolific digital media is, and you just can't be that prolific with traditional methods. Thats how I feel about it anyway. I never stopped shooting motion picture film, and likely never will. I would kill to see some version of what happened with anamorphics happen to film processing, making it more accessible to the masses, but I just can't see it. I think the emulation wave is a close as we're going to get, which is awesome already. I've been trying to create convincing film emulation for 20 years, so the recent explosion of good solutions is a real godsend. I think at the end of the day film may see a resurgence, but its likely to continue to be practiced by a select few, at least at the amateur level. Its kind of like hoping the VX1000 will become the primarily tool for capturing skateboarding again. They're still out there, and people are still using them. Heck maybe even more people right now than 5 years ago, but it'll never become mainstream again. Also to your point about most shots on film being usable, I totally agree, but I think thats only because we're so in love with the aesthetic. Basically you couldn't show me a shot on 16 that I didn't think was great, but thats because of the 16, not the shot, if that makes sense. Its such a novelty that it makes us feel so much without having to do much else. If film actually became the primary tool again, that novelty would start to where off, and suddenly we'd start demanding a lot more of ourselves as cinematographers. Of course that would be a good thing, for the craft side of it, but inevitably it would result in needing to shoot more, with higher end production etc etc, which, would lead to higher costs again. Once you've shot a 1000 rolls of film, your expectation and demands of yourself will be a lot higher, and it won't all look like gold anymore. At least I think so, I haven't shot 1000 rolls either lol. But the explosion of high end democratized filmmaking, is precisely because people can shoot a lot, and at very little cost. Mistakes are cheap, in turn making learning affordable. Anyway, love your work. Its a real treat to see you shooting more on the Bolex, and I hope you keep doing it! I've been on the fence about picking up 16mm cam for the last 4 or 5 years, (honestly ever since I lost access to them when I graduated college) but I live in my truck, and its just one more giant piece of kit to find a home for and less space in a fridge thats already packed with stills film and super8 cartridges. The snowboard video has me feeling itchy though haha

For one thing, I think you are way wrong; on another note, I just ordered my first two cartridges of super 8.

Even though my first 16mm came off the sprockets and got completely jumbled inside the camera (a disappointing outcome for what was a fun shoot that day) it was still actually a good experience in the end - made me ask more questions and had some great learning conversations as a result. Have put an exposed roll through a few times to check all is okay and gonna go for it again in the coming weeks - Glad to hear your thoughts mate ! Such a beautiful way to capture. There are some really amazing examples of the art out there. “While you were sleeping” a favourite 16mm short film

@evilshaffer

Ай бұрын

No way while you were sleeping is one of my all time favorite videos!!

I really liked that one part of this video where

i think the next "cinematic" trend will be better color signal, maybe better like foveon or simply a 4:4:4 debayered

Should be a main channel video Shaffer, this is 🔥🔥🔥

WE NEED MORE K’s

I subscribed, your hat is awesome!

Nice video, tho I think we're maybe already in the Y2K era. Digicams and camcorders are pretty en vogue atm

waited for people to shoot 16mm film for a while, its gonna happen

Do anyone ever thought of actualyl doing a movie filmed vertical? Since we are in the boat of each platform has a different format. It still there that people have not made a full length feature film in a vertical. Not sure maybe there is but just a thought.

@royalistiq3089

Ай бұрын

Been thinking about that too!

7:23 is your hit rate higher because you are more intentional with the shot, knowing how expensive it is?

@evilshaffer

Ай бұрын

Partially for sure, but also it just looks unbelievably good almost all the time of the exposure is correct.

Honest question: How come you a BOLOVO t-shirt? hahaha

This is an interesting prediction. I think it might be true as well! Exciting to see what happens in the years to come!

Cost of film and developing will have to drop significantly, digital conversion is also expensive, no one wants to return to linear editing.

Enjoyed the video! But man, I don’t know if people can afford to shoot film 😂🤙🏻

@ShafferN

Ай бұрын

some mf’s out here shooting dji microphone reviews on Alexa minis ☠️

@coin777

Ай бұрын

Its about 1000usd for a minute of film ​@@ShafferN

@evilshaffer

Ай бұрын

$100,000 adjusted for inflation

the 4x3 film emulation comment had me dying laughing. Been saying this for the last two years. Everything looks the same! Film is definitely going to make a comeback.

@patrickcasella

Ай бұрын

I swear, everybody and their moms are using a 90s DV cam or digicam because it feels “raw” and “authentic”.

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What so just because you backed Nikon right before it was cool, you think you can pReDiCt eVeRyThInG?>?

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