Judy Cole's Son, Rolly, died 3 months later from the airing of this show while practicing for an airshow.

Did anyone else notice that Joey Bishop never smiled when shaking hands with the guests after their segment was over? Also, Arlene's son once appeared on the show as a mystery guest, More importantly, during her ailing last years, he was with her and saw that she got everything she could ever have wanted or needed. He was admired throughout the industry for that.

@loissimmons6558

5 жыл бұрын

Joey Bishop rarely smiled under any circumstances.

@kathyyoung1774

5 жыл бұрын

Arlene’s son appeared twice that I know of, once with Bennet’s son.

@davidsanderson5918

4 жыл бұрын

Joey appeared to have fans of his deadpan humour but actually he's just a deadpan dead loss whatever he does, as far as I'm concerned.

@caroler01

3 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful son.

@Walterwhiterocks

3 жыл бұрын

@@loissimmons6558 True, and tonight was no exception.

Joey Bishop is my favorite guest contestant.

@BelgianDrummer

Жыл бұрын

It is the other way around for me

@moonlightray8493

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Unlike most comedian panelists who tend to goof off instead of actually trying to play the game, Joey exhibits a good balance between witty wisecracks and clever problem-solving! Another guest panelist I really enjoyed was the ventriloquist Paul Winchell.

@dariawells7438

3 ай бұрын

I didn't know much about him (outside of a connection to Dean Martin) and now I have a huge crush on him!

Just watched because it's the day I was born in New York...

Peter produced the film Johnny Cool (1963) starring Elizabeth Montgomery and it was released in October 1963, the month before his brother-in-law, JFK, was assassinated.

By this time, J Edgar Hoover had warned Lawford's brother in law, JFK. to stay away from Sinatra. Thus. this must have Bern a strange encounter between Joey and Peter.

Everybody was so slim!

@QuadMochaMatti

4 жыл бұрын

Amphetamines work wonders.

@sallyhaid7030

3 жыл бұрын

People were just more active. No cell phones, cable, etc. Far less fast food.

@WAL_DC-6B

5 ай бұрын

@@sallyhaid7030 Far less "fast food."

Dorothy was so good at figuring things out! It didn't take her long to determine Mrs. Cole's occupation.

@jillgordon1003

9 жыл бұрын

She sure was! That's why she's my favorite :3

@davidsanderson5918

4 жыл бұрын

The most significant and ubiquitous female 'voice' in journalism of her time.

@caroler01

3 жыл бұрын

Dave Sanderson Any voice male or female. Anytime.

@drumbum3.142

Жыл бұрын

(And) SomeTimes.. ...the Success Rate therein - is a bit suspicious and suspect.. . ... Especially when.. .....while this time WITH, Blindbolds; sometimes she - strangely didn't recognize some VERY, *MASSIVELY* Recognizable names.. .

@lindanitzschke1315

Жыл бұрын

Before she even sat down, I guessed Mrs. Cole to be a test pilot.

They always give the celebrity guest so much time the last contest is given the bumb's rush.

I didn't know Bennett and Arlene's sons went to boarding school together as well. They really did grow up together.

@jmccracken1963

6 жыл бұрын

And, as we will find out on WML? a couple or three years later, they both went on to Harvard, where they were co-editors of the Harvard Lampoon.

@randysills4418

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if they still are friends...

@kentetalman9008

Жыл бұрын

@@randysills4418 Sadly, Peter Gabel passed away last year, at the age of 75. Bennett's son gave a wonderful eulogy.

I'm surprised Arlene and Dorothy didn't stand up for the heads of the service bands, they usually do for more distinguished guests.

The National Cultural Center that John mentioned in connection with the service bands never existed under that name. In a kind of Back to the Future moment, after JFK was assassinated, that building opened as the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

@shirleyrombough8173

3 жыл бұрын

Dear God, how I hate to see these episodes. They all seemed so happy, having no idea. Doesn't seem so to other viewers?

@robertfiller8634

3 жыл бұрын

@@shirleyrombough8173 What in heaven's name are you talking about?

@lestertm7944

2 жыл бұрын

He said the money would go t.o.w.a.r.d. the establishment of one. Never alleged that it already existed. Just maybe, enough money could not be raised or Congress deemed it unnecessary.

Peter Lawford was really a sad story....especially at the end....

@m.e.d.7997

5 жыл бұрын

Probably marrying into the Kennedy family was the worst thing that could have happened to him.

@ECO473

5 жыл бұрын

The fallout with Frank Sinatra over the Kennedys didn't help him either.

@randysills4418

4 жыл бұрын

I can not imagine that the Kennedy brothers giggled when hearing that Marilyn Monroe had died...sorry...

@robertfiller8634

3 жыл бұрын

@@randysills4418 What a stupid comment.

@orbison

2 жыл бұрын

@@m.e.d.7997 The sad truth is his life was doomed to shit from the moment he left his horrible mother's womb.

I like Arlene's hair. Very soft around her face.

A recent story (September 2018) on the former Mets batboy who is retired in Boca Raton (FL). Among interesting tidbits is that he was a ballboy with the Yankees first and was a teammate of Ed Kranepool at James Monroe HS in the Bronx. He was still with the Mets organization in 1969 and has a World Championship ring to show for it. And he does mention his appearance on WML. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gI2KyNB8e72uoJs.html

Of course, Joey and Peter were members of the famed "Rat Pack".

*_LEADERS OF THE FOUR SERVICE BANDS (ARMY, MARINES, AIR FORCE, NAVY)_* *_RIDES ON WING OF STUNT AIRPLANE_* *_BATBOY FOR NEW YORK METS BASEBALL TEAM_*

My opinion: No doubt it was a great loss. But even if Dorothy Kilgallen hadn't died, I do not think it would have been any different. By 1967, Primetime Panel game shows in general were on the way out, and "What's My Line" was the last to go.

@soulierinvestments

10 жыл бұрын

Do the realty talent shows with celebrity panel judges nowadays count as prime time panel game show?

@VahanNisanian

10 жыл бұрын

soulierinvestments In my opinion, no.

@WhatsMyLine

10 жыл бұрын

soulierinvestments I would never consider and I've never heard of these modern reality shows being considered by anyone to even be in the tradition of panel shows. The emphasis is all on the performers, and the panelists aren't playing any sort of a game, just judging a contest. I also don't think Dorothy's passing had anything to do with WML being cancelled-- it stayed on the air for two more years, after all, and was the last remaining show of its type in prime time. But I do think, and I've commented elsewhere, that the show lost a bit of its magic without Dorothy on the panel. She was a much needed irritant on a panel filled with folks who were otherwise there to be charming and entertaining.

@carolv8450

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think Dorothy was an "irritant"-she Was a very smart player.

@MehWhatever99

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhatsMyLine there are a lot of very smart celebrity panel shows in the UK 🇬🇧. Also most late night talk shows in the US are smart, and have many well dressed and well mannered guests, with lively banter. Some guests are smarter than others. But on the whole, it’s all very well done.

I dont know why Joey never did more in his career like the other Rat Pack members

@walterbyrne5888

2 жыл бұрын

He was nasty and petty. People stopped working with him. Even Sinatra cut him lose. That finished him. He died a bitter old man .

@josephpalermo4538

2 жыл бұрын

But if it wasn't for Joey there would be no Rat Pack...he wrote ALL their material for their stage performances!!!!

Yes, the Mets did, indeed, beat the Cincinnati Reds in the 2nd game of that Sunday doubleheader at the Polo Grounds, 13-12. After blowing not 1, but 2 big leads in the game, they rallied for 2 runs in the bottom of the 8th to win, in a game which took 3 hours and 42 minutes to play. Tracy Stallard cemented the save by striking out Pete "Gamblin' Rose" Rose for the final out. (The Reds won the first game of the doubleheader, 3-0; Bob Purkey threw a complete-game shutout.) At the end of that doubleheader, the Mets' record stood at 14-17. The future must have looked quite promising then for Mets fans on that day. Then they went on a two-week road trip, on which they lost 2 out of 3 to the Houston Colt .45s, lost 2 out of 3 to the San Francisco Giants, lost 4 straight to the Los Angeles Dodgers, and lost 3 out of 4 to the St. Louis Cardinals. By the time of Gil Hodges' Mystery Guest appearance in 2 weeks, things were not looking quite so promising for Mets fans.......

@loissimmons6558

5 жыл бұрын

The winning run in the 13-12 game was driven in by the legendary Clarence "Choo Choo" Coleman, one of only 9 RBI's he had that year in 277 plate appearances. He was also a terrible fielder and about his only skill was that he was a fast runner for a catcher. But somehow he hung around for parts of four major league seasons, three of them with the hapless Mets who struggled through their early years finding a capable catcher, even after choosing a catcher as their first pick in the expansion draft that stocked the team (Hobie Landrith, a washed up backup player). Among the catchers who were tried and found wanting by the Mets in those early years were Chris Cannizzaro, Sammy Taylor, Harry Chiti (the player the Mets traded for himself), Joe Pignatano, Joe Ginsberg, Jesse Gonder, Norm Sherry, Hawk Taylor, Greg Goosen (the player they drafted ahead of Reggie Jackson), Jimmie Schafer, and John Stephenson. That's 13 different catchers in four seasons. Finally when they acquired Jerry Grote from Houston after the 1965 season, they had the catcher that would still be with them as their #1 when they won the World Series in 1969.

In the days before videotape, if What's My Line wanted to stockpile a few shows for vacation, would they ever film the game directly. Or was it absolutely 52 weeks a year, except for the occasional pre-emption?

@VahanNisanian

10 жыл бұрын

Before 1959, it was indeed always 52 weeks a year, except for the occasional pre-emption.

@andrewgilmore7669

10 жыл бұрын

Occasionally they would film a few shows in advance, but most of the time it was live, almost 52 weeks a year. Unthinkable today.

@MrJoeybabe25

10 жыл бұрын

So are there any WML's extant that are filmed (movie style with multiple cameras, not a tv show with the director calling the shots live in the booth)?

@soulierinvestments

10 жыл бұрын

Joe Postove If there were, they were done for test purposes. My guess is the answer is no. Interesting enough, I've Got a Secret was filmed with color cameras for a movie, the name of which I cannot remember, but it starred Doris Day.

@VahanNisanian

10 жыл бұрын

soulierinvestments "It Happened to Jane" (1959).

Cole Brothers Air Show: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoSZrZuoh5vgfJM.html

Did Peter Lawford look a little bloated? Also, his "disguised" voice was rotten. I think they had him right away.

@soulierinvestments

10 жыл бұрын

Bloated describes his personality. Only by today's standards does the man seem not really so decadent.

@WhatsMyLine

10 жыл бұрын

soulierinvestments I never saw the appeal of Lawford, personally I certainly wouldn't consider him a particularly great actor.

@soulierinvestments

10 жыл бұрын

Lawford did a few interesting pictures at MGM -- I like Good News and Easter Parade. He might have become major at MGM if he had applied himself to both art and studio politics.

@brookehanley3659

9 жыл бұрын

What's My Line? I strongly disagree. He was a very good actor. And he was very good looking to boot.

@MrJoeybabe25

9 жыл бұрын

Brooke Hanley I don't think he was taken seriously by the Hollywood establishment until his marriage to Jean Kennedy, the president's sister. When they divorced, I think his career took a nosedive. As far as his talent and looks, in my opinion he was handsome and talented. But he won't be remembered for that.

Two of the Rat Pack together. 😆

The Coast Guard and National Guard did not their own bands?

@1201NColombo

9 жыл бұрын

+Joe Postove - It is only recently that the Coast Guard would be in a the class of a member of the "Armed Forces." Before that, they were subordinate to the U.S. Department of Transportation. Next, the National Guard is supplementary to the Army and Air Force and subordinate to the Governor of a particular state. There is not Navy or Marine National Guard.

@alanfollett6242

8 жыл бұрын

+Joe Postove The Coast Guard does have a band, founded in 1925 and based in New London, Connecticut. National Guard units are under control of the respective states; thus, there is no national-level band, though each state's Army National Guard and Air National Guard does have its own band.

Lawford is obviously heavily intoxicated

Peter Lawford 1963. Brother in law of a man who suddenly becomes president of the United States. The Kennedys were grandiose enough to believe that after John served two terms, Robert would then serve two terms, and then Edward would serve two terms, so there he sits thinking he is set for the foreseeable future. And then . . . . death and life and death and life happens.

@shirleyrombough8173

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't suddenly become president. He served his country bravely in the military as well as a senator. Were the Bushes grandiose for having father and son serving as president? And the Adams father and son? I don't think so.

Why was Joey Bishop wearing the girly blindfold?

@TheBraveIntrovert

8 жыл бұрын

+Jill Gordon Real men wear pearls...

@loissimmons6558

5 жыл бұрын

+Jill Gordon Some stage hand put out the wrong one at his place (or the one for a male mystery guest was missing and this was all they had). You can see Joey looking at it quizzically when John Daly asks them to put on the blindfolds before the first segment and Joey even comments on it that it is the wrong one.

@QuadMochaMatti

4 жыл бұрын

Comedic effect.

@ChrisHansonCanada

4 ай бұрын

That would be the norm in 2024.

There he goes again :(

I always skip over those multi-guest sections.

@kentetalman9008

Жыл бұрын

Your loss.

Dorothy with her ridiculous, time-consuming questions - I'm thinking of the wing-walker.

@shirleyrombough8173

3 жыл бұрын

Her questions were very astute. It seems to me that she was accepted and liked for who she was and what she contributed to the program.

@paulrollins2414

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Dorothy IMO played the game seriously. She wanted to win. I commend her (or would have) for that attitude..

@josephpalermo4538

2 жыл бұрын

Dorothy could be quite annoying....and Arlene and Bennett were just snobs!!!!

@drumbum3.142

Жыл бұрын

@@shirleyrombough8173 While, every bit as Subjective as Your opening sentence there; some of the.. expediency.. for which she would at (many) times arrive at the correct .. occupation and/or mystery guest.. Are Quite Suspicious at times.. ... though hopefully Completely Incorrect

Ever notice how all the Rat-Packers appear together either on the panel and MG alternating back and forth, some may not have been true Rat-Packers but all hung out with one another, most knew who it was and had a chance to ham it up after unmasking.