What’s going on with Red Bull’s Christian Horner controversy at F1 testing

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Christian Horner’s presence at Formula 1’s 2024 pre-season test, while an investigation takes place into allegations against him, means an awkward and tense situation hangs over his Red Bull team in Bahrain.
This was highlighted in a brief but uncomfortable exchange during Horner’s appearance as Red Bull's representative in a team principal’s press conference on day two of pre-season testing, organised by F1 as part of this event’s official media activity.
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0:00 Why the Christian Horner investigation is awkward for Red Bull at 2024 F1 testing
3:52 What have F1 and the FIA said?
5:20 When will it be resolved?
6:54 Ford's stance
7:36 Red Bull's other controversy
9:31 Is Ferrari's pace a worry?
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  • @charmingpeasant9834
    @charmingpeasant98343 ай бұрын

    Formula 1 still preaching about equality while taking money from and racing in countries where it doesnt exist. Truly a role model.

  • @stusue9733

    @stusue9733

    3 ай бұрын

    I wonder how it will go down when a female driver it put in F1?

  • @Left4Coragem

    @Left4Coragem

    3 ай бұрын

    Anyone who believes any company cares about "equality" is naive as a child.

  • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1

    @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1

    3 ай бұрын

    Female drivers have raced in f1 before

  • @trappenweisseguy27

    @trappenweisseguy27

    3 ай бұрын

    How about the hypocrisy of using “turbo hybrids” in an effort to be “eco friendly” while the whole circus has to jet around the planet to an ever increasing number of races ?. All of those tires require a lot of fossil fuels to produce as well 🤷‍♂️.

  • @alias19

    @alias19

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Such a useless comment. How will they treat a contemporary female driver?

  • @benjisurf
    @benjisurf3 ай бұрын

    everyone yapping about inclusion during press conferences in the middle east is so embarrassing lol

  • @maht0x

    @maht0x

    3 ай бұрын

    it's embarassing anywhere by anyone

  • @aboodhart1399

    @aboodhart1399

    3 ай бұрын

    the middle east is just as inclusive as anywhere else now a days get the western propaganda out ya head

  • @Bigchuckers

    @Bigchuckers

    3 ай бұрын

    And 3 races in the U.S., what hypocrisy.

  • @jeanpierreiratwibutse119

    @jeanpierreiratwibutse119

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂a real theatre

  • @jenidu9642

    @jenidu9642

    3 ай бұрын

    Even THE RACE is hypocritcal often being sponsored by Aramco

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql3 ай бұрын

    The only awkward thing about this whole thing is the so called journalists salivating around it.

  • @jordanw24

    @jordanw24

    3 ай бұрын

    This ^ They WANT drama and scandal. It’s disgusting. Whether or not he’s guilty or innocent he DESERVES the due process and to be considered innocent until the FACTS come out.

  • @zipzep

    @zipzep

    3 ай бұрын

    common jos paid a lot to ignite it, show some respect to the MAN behind

  • @gollese

    @gollese

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah wtf is going on. What jordan said.

  • @TheAmazingCowpig

    @TheAmazingCowpig

    3 ай бұрын

    Honestly. I just keep forgetting about the whole thing. Just let the thing happen in the background until it finishes, geez.

  • @joshaviles1131

    @joshaviles1131

    3 ай бұрын

    There are reports that he’s gonna announce his departure on the 28th. So I won’t be surprised if it does happen

  • @kennetha6594
    @kennetha65943 ай бұрын

    It seems some people have given him a guilty verdict. The journalists should be ashamed of themselves for the treatment of Horner.

  • @Milkydrummer

    @Milkydrummer

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thegotterdammerung😂😂😂 👌🏻

  • @jacobitosuperstar

    @jacobitosuperstar

    3 ай бұрын

    How is he getting the guilty treatment while keeping his job. I am certainly curious

  • @Payaso9

    @Payaso9

    3 ай бұрын

    🤡🤡🤡

  • @inahole2678

    @inahole2678

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thegotterdammerungthe journalists worded their questions like they assumed he was guilty? Why would he step aside until the investigation is over?

  • @ghjk193

    @ghjk193

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@inahole2678 you have no idea how journalism works do you either that or you didn't actually understand the questions that where asked . Neither of them painted him as guilty... And he would step aside to the simple fact that it's kinda difficult to ask people about their experience with their boss with said boss basically in the same room

  • @TimPaddy
    @TimPaddy3 ай бұрын

    I can save everyone 11:24 of their life. Nothing has changed and there's no new information.

  • @illbeV.

    @illbeV.

    3 ай бұрын

    They gotta get those sweet sweet clicks though 🤷‍♂️

  • @martinvagnerpind6302

    @martinvagnerpind6302

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you @TimPaddy

  • @Invin_cibles

    @Invin_cibles

    3 ай бұрын

    This is probably the worst video I've seen from The Race and they've been quite terrible lately. The clown also tried to imply whether Ferrari are faster than RB because Charles was 0.7s quicker on softer tyres IN TESTING!

  • @TimPaddy

    @TimPaddy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Invin_cibles I agree with your entire assessment

  • @illbeV.

    @illbeV.

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Invin_cibles eh? If anything The Race are always s***ting on Ferrari. No one's implying Ferrari are faster than RB, stop going off tangents

  • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257
    @alicekoppenol-pitti62573 ай бұрын

    If the " evidence" were that strong he wouldn't be there. Calling it "awkward" is more for the media than for Horner himself.

  • @boom2055

    @boom2055

    3 ай бұрын

    well often times evidence is not needed to defame or blackmail people. Especially when a female accuses a male.

  • @kylegerbrandt

    @kylegerbrandt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@boom2055 ahh yes all those high profile stories you definitely didnt just pull out your ass

  • @squelchedotter

    @squelchedotter

    3 ай бұрын

    Conversely, if there was no evidence, they wouldn't be turning this into a PR nightmare for themselves

  • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257

    @alicekoppenol-pitti6257

    3 ай бұрын

    @@squelchedotter never said there was no evidence and the PR nightmare was started when it was "leaked" to the Dutch Press. I said " the evidence was not that strong". Note the difference.

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    @@boom2055 Conversely many women don't come forward for fear of not being believed and potential retaliation. Each case is a case.

  • @susanhenderson2322
    @susanhenderson23223 ай бұрын

    Christian looked calm and relaxed to me, this seems to me that its just journalists trying to stir the sh1t as usual

  • @spartanghost9865
    @spartanghost98653 ай бұрын

    Not awkward at all, everyone needs to shut up & let it play out.

  • @fragdude

    @fragdude

    3 ай бұрын

    100% agree that it needs to be played out first. But it is kinda awkward to have this sort of thing hanging over a team principal

  • @biggusy25

    @biggusy25

    3 ай бұрын

    @@fragdude So people can just drum up BS allegations and force a team principle (or anyone on a team) to take a leave of absence? Good on him for sticking it out.

  • @chrisc475

    @chrisc475

    3 ай бұрын

    It's awkward as it's a distraction. Nobody wanted to be talking about this on Day 2 of preseason testing, hence F1 itself writing to RB and urging it along fairly.

  • @swl0323

    @swl0323

    3 ай бұрын

    Propgranda from The Race to make Red Bull look bad in Formula 1 world. If this happen to Toto or Hamilton, their script will be totally different

  • @daarom3472

    @daarom3472

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@swl0323we all remember the Toto Susie saga from last year 😂

  • @sliqwille
    @sliqwille3 ай бұрын

    Allegations do not equal guilt.

  • @FabledGentleman

    @FabledGentleman

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, Horner's lawyer recommended a 650.000 pound plea deal. That sounds pretty serious to me.

  • @evan55056
    @evan550563 ай бұрын

    There is 9 other teams at testing many with various different concepts on there car that you have not talked about. Maybe make a video about those instead of an ongoing investigation with definitive conclusion

  • @morzee94
    @morzee943 ай бұрын

    Red Bull are dealing with a sensitive HR issue in a professional way. The media need to show some respect to everyone involved and wait for the outcome of the investigation.

  • @Michael-ll7tt

    @Michael-ll7tt

    3 ай бұрын

    Media showing respect? That will never happen 🤣

  • @gabrieldias3479

    @gabrieldias3479

    3 ай бұрын

    It's not only the media. It's the fans, the other teams, the sponsors, the FIA and F1 that are asking for more transparency and quick resolution. Considering many other accusations of harassment, I think the media has been doing a nice job of giving Horner some time. But we can't really ignore the subject.

  • @zainmalik1872

    @zainmalik1872

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@gabrieldias3479not all media outlets have been fair. Some of the less professional and more ambitious ones have said some audacious things. You can see from the questions Horner has to maneuver around that people aren't being fair to him if it means a good scoop.

  • @jebidiahcarlyon3543

    @jebidiahcarlyon3543

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it would be more professional if Horner was to step aside until the investigation ends. The pointed questions and criticism only seem more appropriate with the CEO continuing "business as usual" despite his current situation. Red Bull don't seem like they could replace him if the allegations are true - which should worry any RB fan.

  • @duncanidaho9153

    @duncanidaho9153

    3 ай бұрын

    Redbull should get on with it.

  • @jimkeane
    @jimkeane3 ай бұрын

    This is tabloid journalism, could you not make a “what we learned from day 2 of pre season testing video” that would be far more insightful

  • @UncleSalie

    @UncleSalie

    3 ай бұрын

    No the fuck it isn't? Go look at the statements made by Viaplay. That's tabloid journalism and Mitchell-Malm was first in line to report that they are wrong.

  • @tl924

    @tl924

    3 ай бұрын

    Brits literally invented sensationalist tabloid journalism, they're just doing what they know.

  • @AlizioHerman

    @AlizioHerman

    3 ай бұрын

    I bet you didn't give the Wolff's this same tolerance. This isn't about respect guy. If there is an investigation of this magnitude, its the media's obligation to investigate, that's what The Race is doing. Stop pretending the man should be completely immune from conversations surrounding this and stop pretending we all called him guilty. Slow down.

  • @elemenop718
    @elemenop7183 ай бұрын

    Not awkward. Just you guys with your click bait BS

  • @garythefishable

    @garythefishable

    3 ай бұрын

    It is kind of awkward.

  • @elemenop718

    @elemenop718

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garythefishable you were there you fruitcake?

  • @alias19

    @alias19

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garythefishable What is it about? You cannot say because YOU DO NOT KNOW. Stop being a mouthpiece for something you know nothing about.

  • @garythefishable

    @garythefishable

    3 ай бұрын

    @@alias19 It's the elephant in the room my guy, not much you or I can do about that I'm afraid.

  • @jebidiahcarlyon3543

    @jebidiahcarlyon3543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garythefishable The "elephant", to me, is the fact that RB seem to consider Horner irreplaceable. If the allegations are true or not, during the investigation it would make RB look better to have a stand in for Horner. That way if things go really bad, RB doesn't look completely screwed and bereft of leadership

  • @barrymitchell1488
    @barrymitchell14883 ай бұрын

    Why I didn't surprise that ones who talk is Zack Brown?

  • @gilangrizkiaulya8664

    @gilangrizkiaulya8664

    3 ай бұрын

    ??? Im no fan of him but he was asked? Did you expect him to say "no comment"?

  • @esavage8855

    @esavage8855

    3 ай бұрын

    He was asked in this case but the media asked him on purpose because Zak loves to talk shit. The media is trying to stir up as much controversy as possible because that’s what gives them clicks. This is a reason I can’t stand reporters of any kind!

  • @barrymitchell1488

    @barrymitchell1488

    3 ай бұрын

    @esavage8855 so it's media fault that Zack is talking shit about Red Bull every time he could do this?

  • @barrymitchell1488

    @barrymitchell1488

    3 ай бұрын

    @@gilangrizkiaulya8664 so basically you saying that it's not his fault?

  • @esavage8855

    @esavage8855

    3 ай бұрын

    @@barrymitchell1488 that’s not what I said at all. What I’m saying is they called on him because they knew he specifically would give them a juicy quote to use in their articles. Honestly he probably would’ve done it even if they didn’t call on him but they wanted to make sure

  • @jordanw24
    @jordanw243 ай бұрын

    Toto and Brown’s comments are totally inappropriate virtue signally. PITIFUL.

  • @Hypersonik

    @Hypersonik

    3 ай бұрын

    I think they're great! They will try and hire for diversity and go backwards down the grid whilst everyone else hires on ability :)

  • @maxx6282

    @maxx6282

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you know what virtue signaling is

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen7043 ай бұрын

    Zak Brown and the journalists comments were mad disrespectful, Mclaren needs to tell Zak to shut his mouth.

  • @pouification

    @pouification

    3 ай бұрын

    Why? Horner would be the first one to badmouth any other team if their principal would be in the same position as him.

  • @MeltingRubberZ28

    @MeltingRubberZ28

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@pouificationHorner would probably have the intelligence to not open himself up to a potential lawsuit

  • @illbeV.

    @illbeV.

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah, poor Horner, he's always so restrained 😂

  • @jaydenkitts9704

    @jaydenkitts9704

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sam-nariman6236

    @sam-nariman6236

    3 ай бұрын

    Zak is so bitter about other teams' success.

  • @True60RS
    @True60RS3 ай бұрын

    Happy to come to the comments section and see other F1 fans share my same sentiments. Today’s video effort would have been much better spent on a Testing Day 2 round-up.

  • @andyrules999

    @andyrules999

    3 ай бұрын

    I hope 'The Race' read some of these comments and get the point

  • @AlizioHerman

    @AlizioHerman

    3 ай бұрын

    You think an F1 media outlet shouldn't report on topics of this magnitude because it makes you uncomfortable. The most political and legally involved sport on earth and you think we should ignore this because you're sick of cancel culture. Talking about F1 has never been just about the racing. If this was any other scenario, like The Wolff's you'd be quiet. @andyrules999

  • @andyrules999

    @andyrules999

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AlizioHerman Would you like it if someone falsely accused you of sexual harassment and your name is smeared across the front pages? Lets just be fair and wait for the actual details insted of this nonsense. Doesn't matter if it is Wolff or Horner, maybe if it was Guenther I'd be desperate for details, maybe he fu**ed the whole team after all

  • @LongbowAdam

    @LongbowAdam

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AlizioHermanyou are 100% right. This should be the leading story until resolved. I’m frankly surprised and disappointment this isn’t discuss and talked about more.

  • @andyrules999

    @andyrules999

    3 ай бұрын

    @@LongbowAdam will you be apologising to redbull and horner and paying back all the losses they have sustained thanks to these lies????

  • @markroman8227
    @markroman82273 ай бұрын

    Why do people keep saying "investigation" but never elaborate what exactly is being investigated?

  • @rocket69218

    @rocket69218

    3 ай бұрын

    Nobody knows, other than some kind of 'inappropriate behavior' accusation.

  • @timez9663

    @timez9663

    3 ай бұрын

    Somewhere it said something about chat messages of a sexual naturw

  • @aimankamil4818

    @aimankamil4818

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@timez9663some women getting yelled at because she doesn't do her job, the investigation is taking longer because RB new ceo doesn't particularly interested in f1

  • @JohnH1

    @JohnH1

    3 ай бұрын

    @@aimankamil4818It's far more serious than that.

  • @sloppynyuszi

    @sloppynyuszi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@timez9663that’s just some gossip. The more serious players say it’s more of work bullying incident. Think Ellen DeGeneres more than Harvey Weinstein. The complainant I think is a woman, why people are running with the sex stuff.

  • @adamjoy429
    @adamjoy4293 ай бұрын

    The irony of Toto sitting in the middle east and talking about equality, transparency and the grid being role models...

  • @ua697

    @ua697

    3 ай бұрын

    Petronas = Putin

  • @subbiasrinivasan

    @subbiasrinivasan

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh yes instead he should be in the US which will never step on women's rights or would ever commit a genocide .. Oh wait !!

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, probably the right place to talk about that.

  • @F1jones

    @F1jones

    3 ай бұрын

    The irony of this story being about Chris Horner and the RBR bandwagon trying to redirect and project it into something about Wolff, still living rent free in their heads.

  • @patepulkkinenvtec2403

    @patepulkkinenvtec2403

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@soundscape26If Toto is truly the soldier of justice, maybe he should boycott all the races in the middle-east? Yep, not gonna happen.

  • @matthewbarber13
    @matthewbarber133 ай бұрын

    Not a Horner fan by any stretch of the imagination but it’s just idiotic to expect anyone connected with the situation to provide any update on it, whilst the investigation is ongoing no one will be at liberty to speak of it for fear of something becoming prejudicial to the outcome. Maybe Horner & Red Bull should have taken a different approach to Horner being front and centre knowing full well that these questions as dumb as they are were coming.

  • @rogerblackwood8815

    @rogerblackwood8815

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe due process needs an update where BOTH PARTIES remain anonymous until the case is proven. This one really gets my piss boiling! What's the other parties name? Where do they work? Are they causing a distraction in their line of work etc etc? No, a big fat NO, because no one knows who this person is, but the man is always hung out to dry before any evidence whatsoever has been heard in public!

  • @matthewbarber13

    @matthewbarber13

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rogerblackwood8815with all due respect the other party isn’t a public figure like Horner, their name coming out gets them in an even worse situation than Horner, the abuse that person would be opened up to just by reading comments on places like this would be horrific. I think that this other person is being used as a pawn given the tensions growing between Horner and other people who want him gone. I do agree that this just shouldn’t be played out in the media until it’s been resolved.

  • @GloomGaiGar

    @GloomGaiGar

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rogerblackwood8815 So you're just hungry for GOSSIP lol. The truth will reveal itself in due time. Just shut up and enjoy the season. It very obviously does not concern you.

  • @kylegerbrandt

    @kylegerbrandt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rogerblackwood8815 always, okay. post links to prove it.

  • @simonb4757

    @simonb4757

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@rogerblackwood8815it is regrettable that Horner's name got out but that is always a risk with such a high profile figure and it was always a risk. It's one that comes with the job and Horner has to take the rough with the smooth, he's made plenty of money from his role and his public image, you can't take those benefits without the risks that if something like this happens it won't get picked up by the press somehow. But just because Horner's name leaked does not mean the other person's name should be given out at all, that's ridiculous to suggest for all the reasons already mentioned by people.

  • @4rdF1Hunny
    @4rdF1Hunny3 ай бұрын

    Media doing its best to create tension and drama.

  • @alotl1kevegas860
    @alotl1kevegas8603 ай бұрын

    Toto calling for "transparency" while the scandal involving him and his wife got swept under the rug is laughable.

  • @barrymitchell1488

    @barrymitchell1488

    3 ай бұрын

    And somehow, Toto thinks he is a victim after that.

  • @rickfewtrell8843

    @rickfewtrell8843

    3 ай бұрын

    What scandal? His wife working at the FIA in a capacity that has nothing to do with F1?

  • @adalsegu9670

    @adalsegu9670

    3 ай бұрын

    it wasnt swept under, it was literally front and center that week. the issue was resolved and so you stopped hearing about it.

  • @Spankster.

    @Spankster.

    3 ай бұрын

    It didn’t get swept under the rug, it was dropped because there was no substantiated evidence

  • @northman77

    @northman77

    3 ай бұрын

    It's Toto 🤷

  • @JusticeSheperd
    @JusticeSheperd3 ай бұрын

    Not awkward for me, I think it's just media outlets like you that seek to make it this way 🤷‍♂

  • @LookSpec
    @LookSpec3 ай бұрын

    someone should tell Zak Brown that having a loud mouth doesn't make up for his teams lack of wins

  • @therealquaid1694

    @therealquaid1694

    3 ай бұрын

    Remember Fat Brown is an American so he knows no better.

  • @sam-nariman6236

    @sam-nariman6236

    3 ай бұрын

    My thought exactly mate 😂😂 He's so confident that he will not face such accusations as a CEO. You should be careful because your words would be used against you in the future.

  • @F1jones

    @F1jones

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sam-nariman6236 most CEOs aren't accused of such behavior. Maybe because most don't give reason of such. Horner has admitted to liking to play psychological games before, seems right in line with his bafoonery. When his wife has to cry that he did nothing wrong, we can easily infer that something did happen, it's just a matter of "right or wrong." Meanwhile, I love all the snowflakes crying for this guy. Team bosses lose their jobs all the time, he'd just be the latest. So what.

  • @tailsneon556
    @tailsneon5563 ай бұрын

    I hope if all this ends up being false allegations he sues the crap out of everyone who is dragging him through htis

  • @julianz7450
    @julianz74503 ай бұрын

    Innocent until proven guilty. Let red bull do its investigation and don't stir the pot for no reason.

  • @roberthak3695

    @roberthak3695

    3 ай бұрын

    also notice how its a company internal investigation, not a legal LAW investigation. meaning this is some sort of modern feminist accusation. I personally dont care and dont want him to go because of this sort of propagandistic accusations

  • @Brucefulness
    @Brucefulness3 ай бұрын

    If they had any clear cut evidence at all he'd already have resigned or been fired. So obviously they don't. The way the racing "journalists" are handling it is pathetic

  • @simonb4757

    @simonb4757

    3 ай бұрын

    Your lack of understanding of appropriate HR process is understandable, most people aren't HR Professionals, but don't go shouting about stuff you don't understand. You are perpetuating a false narrative just as much if not more so than the media. The investigation will deem the outcome and your baseless claims of lack of evidence are as unhelpful as the media's rumours. The only odd thing is that he isn't suspended pending the investigation, that would be normal HR practice in these circumstances and it is concerning.

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    Now think the opposite... if he were 100% innocent the case would've been closed by now.

  • @whythefuckineedhandle

    @whythefuckineedhandle

    3 ай бұрын

    @@soundscape26 The issue is, in those kid of accusation he essentially should prove he is innocent, which is quite a trick. I personally have zero ideas how i can prove i didn't do shit if other side don't need to prove i did.

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    @@whythefuckineedhandle In this particular situation? Well, calls and messages leave trails, I don't think the case involves anything physical otherwise the police would probably be on the scene already. We have to put some faith in the investigation.

  • @maxx6282

    @maxx6282

    3 ай бұрын

    Learn what an investigation is

  • @IAmKry
    @IAmKry3 ай бұрын

    I'm so sick of seeing these headlines. You guys are better than this bogus "journalism."

  • @F1jones

    @F1jones

    3 ай бұрын

    Please document your prodigious expertise regarding journalistic standards, methods and ethics.

  • @IAmKry

    @IAmKry

    3 ай бұрын

    @@F1jonesAh, yes, the good old "you can't have an opinion if it isn't your profession." Buzz off with that, mate. You're a target demographic, act like it.

  • @maxx6282

    @maxx6282

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@IAmKryyou think they shouldn't be talking about it because they're not in the investigation. The hypocrisy is shocking

  • @IAmKry

    @IAmKry

    3 ай бұрын

    @@maxx6282 No, I think you shouldn't report on things that are unsubstantiated and still ongoing. It will be as embarrassing for all involved as the reports that prematurely spewed out on Toto and his wife. Reporting without evidence is simply hearsay.

  • @GarryOffroad
    @GarryOffroad3 ай бұрын

    I expected more from The Race

  • @gustavooliveira1921
    @gustavooliveira19213 ай бұрын

    You can’t imply the investigation isn’t serious because he hasn’t been put on leave. There’s an underlying assumption there that he did something wrong. The whole point of an investigation is to prove guilt. Y’all are some silly reporters

  • @slopat2503
    @slopat25033 ай бұрын

    No surprise that Zach and Toto are the only ones to offer a comment. Really starting to dislike those two.

  • @biggallcaps
    @biggallcaps3 ай бұрын

    The current state of the world with cancel culture, specifically against men with accusations from women, is really dangerous and has an overall negative effect on everyone involved. As soon as an accusation is made, regardless if it is true or not, causes all kinds of doubt about the company they work for, the people closest to the accused party, and anyone associated with the accused party all gets thrown into turmoil. And if the accusation is false, there is no meaningful repercussions applied to the accusing party and the accused's reputation is irreversably damaged with no compensation. I'm not saying if this stuff is going on that it shouldnt be stopped, but the media, the governing body, and anyone with guns and pitch forks need to canceled for the irreversible damage they cause to everyone else as a result of these things happening. You shouldn't burn a house down to kill a spider. You just hit it with a fly-swatter.

  • @BallinCock

    @BallinCock

    3 ай бұрын

    Based

  • @Spike-sk7ql

    @Spike-sk7ql

    3 ай бұрын

    This comment should have more likes. Bad mouth the media in the first part to keep everyone reading the rest, which is what they should be reading.

  • @optimusprime028

    @optimusprime028

    3 ай бұрын

    Men are lowkey also the ones who made those rules. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

  • @mpow3r972

    @mpow3r972

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree with all the above. So many women in this "Me Too" world are trying to cash in on anything they can regarding men above them. This man has children, a wife, and so on, and it seems like it's more someone he rejected than anything else. People are always looking for the next paycheck when they aren't capable of earning it themselves. And this comes from a Mercedes fan btw........

  • @sahilthomasbara

    @sahilthomasbara

    3 ай бұрын

    Agree

  • @andrewcarfax-foster5046
    @andrewcarfax-foster50463 ай бұрын

    7:50 Why does the RB keep getting hammered by the media when HAAS has been doing a parts bin special from the start?

  • @lamatakbertemu8197

    @lamatakbertemu8197

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe they fear RB 19.

  • @samwlloyd

    @samwlloyd

    3 ай бұрын

    Because other teams cant do a proper job they have to find some excuse !!!

  • @mvh996

    @mvh996

    3 ай бұрын

    because Rb cud get much better than haas....

  • @Kbandz313
    @Kbandz3133 ай бұрын

    The media keep saying he’s under “Investigation” but never actually say what he’s really getting investigated for. We don’t even know what he did if anything at all

  • @gabrieldias3479

    @gabrieldias3479

    3 ай бұрын

    That shows how the media has been pretty respectful to Horner. Otherwise we would be seeing a lot of rumors floating around, we would see heated debates and so on.

  • @kylegerbrandt

    @kylegerbrandt

    3 ай бұрын

    thats how it works. Also not true we know that it's management and harassment related

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    Because Red Bull didn't disclose any further information.

  • @starbase218
    @starbase2183 ай бұрын

    OMG. Anyone can make an accusation at any time. If someone needs to step aside for that, that seems like a very convenient way to be able to hurt them, under the guise of political correctness. Seems like Zak Brown is more concerned with image, than with truth.

  • @43Disciple
    @43Disciple3 ай бұрын

    The press has falsely weighed in on this so much they should all expect lawsuits from Horner. De Telegraf and ViaPlay both need to feel the burn for false reporting.

  • @olivialambert4124

    @olivialambert4124

    3 ай бұрын

    There's nothing to sue. In this instance they'd need to prove that the media both knew the statements were false and then said the false statements with the intent to hurt his reputation. That's an incredibly high standard, and asking questions whilst reporting on part of the story doesn't even count as a statement let alone both of those requirements. Yes it feels unfair, yes we both know what they're doing, but legally they've done nothing wrong. Morally on the other hand, well we're all free to vote with our feet and avoid this media platform. People seem to be quite vocal about their stance on this and if they ignore the viewers the next step would be avoiding their content and allowing them to fade into obscurity as we are seeing happen for similar reasons to many other media outlets.

  • @PncK64

    @PncK64

    3 ай бұрын

    @@olivialambert4124 What you've said is not even remotely true. Intent in libel or slander cases is not relevant. It's either libelous or it isn't, simple as

  • @olivialambert4124

    @olivialambert4124

    3 ай бұрын

    @@PncK64 I suggest you work a little harder on your legal knowledge then. There are two different standards depending on if a person is a public figure or not a public figure. Horner is obviously a public figure. In cases revolving around public figures there is a far stricter requirement which indeed does involve intent. You're clearly stuck on only the more lax standard towards people who aren't public figures where indeed intent does not matter.

  • @awdgsx415
    @awdgsx4153 ай бұрын

    The only awkwardness is making a whole video about it, and the media making it more than what it is. Honestly could care less. Why not make more videos on other cars testing on the grid.

  • @gabe2968
    @gabe29683 ай бұрын

    The corporate PR in F1 is unbearably cringe now. I'm just watching it out of masochism

  • @TurboPumperX

    @TurboPumperX

    3 ай бұрын

    DEI this DEI that🤮

  • @sahilthomasbara

    @sahilthomasbara

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@TurboPumperXhonestly man , fuck this shit 🤢

  • @mh518
    @mh5183 ай бұрын

    Take the video down

  • @illbeV.

    @illbeV.

    3 ай бұрын

    Alright Dutchie, calm down

  • @Real_Shawn

    @Real_Shawn

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@illbeV.Go away

  • @AlizioHerman

    @AlizioHerman

    3 ай бұрын

    Why take it down. It's hilarious how conservative white dudes always want media suppressed that makes them uncomfortable. The Race did nothing but report on a potentially historical off-track conflict. No one called him guilty and the situation is objectively awkward, even if he's innocent. You're not a fan of cancel culture, we get it. We weren't on the ground in Bahrain, we deserve updates.

  • @DannySB991
    @DannySB9913 ай бұрын

    Yes we get it, it feels like you mention this or find a way to add into the thumbnail of every single video at the moment. Give it a rest and focus on the cars, that's what we want to see as formula 1 fans. If Horner is found guilty, then good riddance.

  • @janabozic2603
    @janabozic26033 ай бұрын

    The "elephant" in the room wouldn't be there if journalists had respect for the process at hand. Regardless of what you think about Christian he is still a person who deserves a chance to defend himself against these claims, these kind of videos, articles and reports make it impossible for him to do that. Asking him questions when you know he legally can't answer, picking words to rile him up and goad him into saying something just so you can get a scoop for your article is deplorable. Not to mention involving other team principals to create more stories, adding to the speculation by talking about his tone and body language, that's what's creating a tense situation not Christian trying to do his job and be there for the team he has devoted 20 years to.

  • @kylegerbrandt

    @kylegerbrandt

    3 ай бұрын

    just say you dont understand what journalism actually is

  • @janabozic2603

    @janabozic2603

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kylegerbrandt I know exactly what it is, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of journalists criticizing Christian for "creating an awkward situation", without any accountability for the role they play in it.

  • @maxx6282

    @maxx6282

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@janabozic2603journos are not their friends. Not every day does someone get investigated for harrassment

  • @janabozic2603

    @janabozic2603

    3 ай бұрын

    @@maxx6282 you completely missed my point🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @Gizfreek
    @Gizfreek3 ай бұрын

    What's really awkward is that despite RB trying to handle it in a professional way, some media outlets can't wait to milk this situation without any verdict or information. Wait until the matter is resolved and then you can talk about what happened and not only speculate.

  • @ianaquila1858
    @ianaquila18583 ай бұрын

    Journos making more out of nothing. They don’t even know the details but scream GUILTY. Reporters are a joke these days.

  • @garythefishable
    @garythefishable3 ай бұрын

    Honestly I like Horner, he's good at giving us entertainment off the track and genuinely comes across as a sound guy. I really hope he didn't do the dodgy stuff though especially for his families sake.

  • @kevinlaguna2023

    @kevinlaguna2023

    3 ай бұрын

    What did he do?

  • @garythefishable

    @garythefishable

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kevinlaguna2023 The rumour is s*xual harassment of a female colleague within the Red Bull F1 team but nothing is official so take it with a pinch of salt for now.

  • @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter
    @SiegfriedDerDrachentoter3 ай бұрын

    These hit pieces are embarrassing

  • @Jack-fd8cx
    @Jack-fd8cx3 ай бұрын

    Massive loss of respect to the Race for the tone of this video. Gross.

  • @edusszfx
    @edusszfx3 ай бұрын

    Asking the person being investigated how long the investigation is going to take, is just so dumb!

  • @SilverWolfXIII
    @SilverWolfXIII3 ай бұрын

    Toto and his wife's situation seems to be a more clear cut obvious conflict of interest while we haven't seen any evidence for Horner's so he needs to stop barking. As for Brown he brings shame to the McLaren name by being the attention seeking shoulder parrot for Mercedes rather than the respectable owner of one of the most legendary teams in F1. Bad taste from the media on sweeping some cases under the rug and highlighting others. The Andretti case is still fresh as well

  • @maxx6282

    @maxx6282

    3 ай бұрын

    RB owns two teams talking about "clear cut" conflict of interest

  • @DaddyFett
    @DaddyFett3 ай бұрын

    Really dissapointed that you guys made this video..

  • @growsustainflourish8911
    @growsustainflourish89113 ай бұрын

    The idea that anyone should have to step aside from their job at the whiff of an accusation is simply ridiculous. It’s only a story because the media keep talking about it. As a viewer of this channel and F1 these videos are a waste of time until some official actual news comes out.

  • @Haviickx
    @Haviickx3 ай бұрын

    Crazy that in the midst of testing, this is what a video is about?

  • @CrimsonHiroX07
    @CrimsonHiroX073 ай бұрын

    Calling it now: Internal Red Bull power grab.

  • @tiegedolly

    @tiegedolly

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s giving me Little Carmine vs Johnny Sack vibes!

  • @Shapershift
    @Shapershift3 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, The Race. How's that Saudi sponsor money treating ya?

  • @dopy8418
    @dopy84183 ай бұрын

    Racing fans don’t care about tabloid gossip.

  • @mrzachwright
    @mrzachwright3 ай бұрын

    I like Zak Brown, but where does he have any room to comment on the situation? Toto calling for transparency when every scandal he’s been part of has been swept under the rug is also laughable.

  • @AyyFuji
    @AyyFuji3 ай бұрын

    Only thing awkward about it is the media drumming it up as such. There’s been no verdict so far, and the investigation is ongoing. Until there’s a definitive decision, he’s allowed to still continue his job. People are way too soft, I’m sure if he is found guilty, RB will do the right thing and punish him, if it’s found to be worthy of dismissal and all that. In no way am I excusing his potential actions, but until it’s been proven, the company can do what they want (like others that decide to remove someone if any bad news gets out, these companies can go about it however they want

  • @quigglyz
    @quigglyz3 ай бұрын

    Imagine taking fake allegations seriously 😂

  • @soundscape26

    @soundscape26

    3 ай бұрын

    How do you know they are fake?

  • @ilichio
    @ilichio3 ай бұрын

    The only problem is that this has become public. There's no C level or director at any company that would be left on the side during an investigation. F1 "journalism" is just ridiculous.

  • @qbond007
    @qbond0073 ай бұрын

    Having women at a certain level must require CCTV to record all interactions between women and men. If accusations are the only evidence required for women to taint or destroy men’s careers. Please record EVERYTHING! No private conversations must be permitted between men and women.

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    3 ай бұрын

    But apparently there's inappropriate messages from Horner to the alleged victim

  • @zippo5294

    @zippo5294

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @AKA87BE

    @AKA87BE

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nessuno5403 just rumours

  • @sahilthomasbara

    @sahilthomasbara

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@nessuno5403just rumours without any proofs

  • @samwlloyd

    @samwlloyd

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nessuno5403the key word is "Apparently" ..... just like Horner "Apparently" had controlling behavior ..... If there was a text he would have been fired by now !!!!!

  • @F1Alex90
    @F1Alex903 ай бұрын

    Which piece of music is being played at around 5:18 to 5:20?

  • @withextrapickles
    @withextrapickles3 ай бұрын

    Wish you had some information but you used a title clicky and had nothing to add. Didnt expect this from the Race

  • @glennbranton623
    @glennbranton6233 ай бұрын

    It’s “business as usual” because justice operates on the principle that you are innocent until PROVEN guilty, a principle we as a society seem to be losing sight of.

  • @andyrules999
    @andyrules9993 ай бұрын

    I wonder if 'The Race' read these comments? Well done to everyone below for taking the correct stance unlike the hypocrits in the media

  • @prutz9092002
    @prutz90920023 ай бұрын

    Oh man. Netflix is gonna be all over this like chum in the water.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider3 ай бұрын

    why does this video even exist? there is a 45% dislike ratio on this video for a good reason: your viewers know it’s nonsense

  • @LucasKingster
    @LucasKingster3 ай бұрын

    Kinda bored of the witch-hunt tbh. Let’s focus on the cars please

  • @christurner68
    @christurner683 ай бұрын

    the only people that are making this awkward is the media vultures

  • @timoooo7320
    @timoooo73203 ай бұрын

    Of course he can't comment on it, he is the highest figure in Red Bull F1 racing team and he is there in these press in that capacity, what do you expect him to say "yeah so we've investigated me and we didn't find anything wrong"? Obviously not, he is being investigated by the parent company Red Bull, as it should be, so obviously any questions about the investigation need to be directed to the parent company.

  • @bobcharlotte8724
    @bobcharlotte87243 ай бұрын

    Thanks to RPM, I can't stop thinking of "investigayshon" lol

  • @MrPwncake

    @MrPwncake

    3 ай бұрын

    Cucumber

  • @Crotes1990
    @Crotes19903 ай бұрын

    Awkward? It's only awkward for the media (like you guys). Thumbs down for this video.

  • @13bathory1986

    @13bathory1986

    3 ай бұрын

    🤣. that rb fanboy logic is amazing. you gave that video twice a feedback for the algorythm... good job on the thumbs down + the comment.

  • @Crotes1990

    @Crotes1990

    3 ай бұрын

    @@13bathory1986RB fanboy? What are you smoking?

  • @ElGuatequero
    @ElGuatequero3 ай бұрын

    I dont like Horner in any way but if you have to stop everything you do every time somebody said something about you to finalizing to be false you couldnt have a life. He should retire and stop appearing if the investigations show that those accusations are true.

  • @cosmikyogi2514
    @cosmikyogi25143 ай бұрын

    What is the allegations ? Not able to get info on it.

  • @Shifty_Malone
    @Shifty_Malone3 ай бұрын

    It's awkward because it's being reported on. Innocent until proven guilty. We don't need another Trevor Bauer situation. We shouldn't hear a word, make any assumptions or have any disciplinary action until it's finalised.

  • @bfoote9909
    @bfoote99093 ай бұрын

    This is media Yapping. You should be making videos on the test itself. Wait until the investigation is done and ask questions in which you would actually get a substantive answer. this whole video amounts to " Christian horner was jabbed by some journalists, and told them he couldn't comment on the investigation"

  • @Left4Coragem
    @Left4Coragem3 ай бұрын

    I thought this was a channel about racing. What is this? Might as well count yourselves in the same level as ambulance chasers.

  • @jahvheadgawn
    @jahvheadgawn3 ай бұрын

    Let that man work! If he is guilty in the end then he should step down

  • @levegohang
    @levegohang3 ай бұрын

    This episode sponsored by Mercedes and McLaren. How to be anti Redbull ... The Race. Hold my "jurnalism" :)))

  • @mubbasherniaz8082
    @mubbasherniaz80823 ай бұрын

    Get Scott Mitchell a clip on microphone and balance the audio between the two clips. Some tiktokers have better audio balance lol

  • @qbond007
    @qbond0073 ай бұрын

    Horner haters are being incredibly unfair. So all that has to happen to destroy a man’s career is a woman making an accusation against you. This is absolutely disgusting! Toto and Brown are hypocrites and extremely pathetic. Any persons accused of inappropriate behaviour is innocent until proven guilty. Why should Horner step aside? Red Bull must conclude this investigation asap. It’s a bad situation to prolong this unnecessarily.

  • @roberthak3695

    @roberthak3695

    3 ай бұрын

    yes its all it takes. where have you been in the last 20 years mate? ... I never liked Horner, too cocky, but I stand with him on this

  • @stusue9733

    @stusue9733

    3 ай бұрын

    @@roberthak3695 "where have you been in the last 20 years mate?" I'm not sure you meant that this way but yes, men need accurate records of where they were for the last 30 years in case they need to prove they weren't where someone said they were.

  • @chrisc475

    @chrisc475

    3 ай бұрын

    The acusation has got to be investigated, of course it does and that's what they're doing. If there's nothing in it, it'll conclude and be back at his Jon.

  • @stusue9733

    @stusue9733

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chrisc475 So you are happy with guilty until proven innocent?

  • @chrisc475

    @chrisc475

    3 ай бұрын

    @@stusue9733 Of course not, but they're not treating him like he's guilty. He wouldn't be there for one.

  • @mrw1783
    @mrw17833 ай бұрын

    What isnt heloing is there is no deadline or timescale available. I realise theyre not going to talk about everything but an epected completion date completion isnt too much to ask for.

  • @Wedgeman_Riley
    @Wedgeman_Riley3 ай бұрын

    If Christian Horner goes, I think Adrian newey is next. He did say the reason he went to redbull was becuase he likes how Christian ran the team. If he doesn't retire I hope for a return to mclaren

  • @garythefishable

    @garythefishable

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah but what about the Red Bull hyper car project? That would be hard for Newey to walk away from.

  • @foryousten

    @foryousten

    3 ай бұрын

    Some dreams that he goes to Ferrari, to work with Lewis, 🦊

  • @samwlloyd

    @samwlloyd

    3 ай бұрын

    Newey is basically family of Horner, his the godfather of his children

  • @dantheracer99
    @dantheracer993 ай бұрын

    If Christian Horner is able to be at Formula 1 testing and the launch of the RB20 then it should tell you all you need to know about the investigation and where it's headed. I'm reasonably sure the person who the made the allegation is going to be a given a more than fair settlement to make it all go away so that Horner can carry on like nothing has happened? Does that make it right? Hell no. But is that how the corporate world works, you bet it is.

  • @EatonZ26
    @EatonZ263 ай бұрын

    Interesting to see how Netflix season 7 would tackle this issue

  • @peterusher8384
    @peterusher83843 ай бұрын

    Says a lot about Zac Brown and Journalists all talking bollocks

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert41243 ай бұрын

    Why are journalists so upset over the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Yes there has been an accusation, should every single person be punished and the team dragged down over every accusation? If he's innocent and being removed as principle then what? The team is at a great loss, a new principle has to replace him. Is it fair on him, the team, the fans? If he is guilty he will be punished when that is proven, what's the problem? Also, for what it's worth this doesn't meet that standard either.

  • @WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw
    @WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw3 ай бұрын

    There’s no room for in-team tensions rn lmao. Everyone’s figuring out their car so they can function for the first couple rounds until their first big upgrade package is ready at Imola.

  • @TerribleFire
    @TerribleFire3 ай бұрын

    I'm no CH fan but i think the investigation needs to take as long as it takes to get right answer. The era when we just believe any allegation against a man just because he's a man is over.

  • @eliasmora715
    @eliasmora7153 ай бұрын

    the media invents the drama.... talk about the racing not personal matters

  • @itsmenoname2247
    @itsmenoname22473 ай бұрын

    where is the proof or evidence ?

  • @messmeister92
    @messmeister923 ай бұрын

    If the investigation is “hanging over the team,” they sure as hell haven’t showed it.

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein3 ай бұрын

    7:45 - You guys mean VCARB?

  • @Devilxproofficial
    @Devilxproofficial3 ай бұрын

    I thought this was Rimac's channel

  • @tube396
    @tube3963 ай бұрын

    If this was a straightforward case of workplace harassment the investigation should of been concluded long before now. I think it's more to do with an internal power struggle.

  • @renatsukami
    @renatsukami3 ай бұрын

    Still funny to me that journalists waste their questions fully knowing he cant comment on it, in the hopes of him slipping up

  • @tonamg53
    @tonamg533 ай бұрын

    What really awkward is this video saying it’s awkward when there isn’t really anything awkward at all…

  • @andyprice4696
    @andyprice46963 ай бұрын

    We’ve all heard about this investigation but… what’s it all about? What’s he actually accused of doing? What is the reason for the investigation? Has that been made public? I’ve not seen that stated anywhere

  • @shauryasingh1308

    @shauryasingh1308

    3 ай бұрын

    The accusation is made by a female employee in the company that’s for sure from trusted media sources. Some media hubs are saying it’s because of Horners aggressive management whereas some journals are saying it’s a Sexual Harassment allegation. We will only know what’s the real deal after RB completes its investigation as they are taking it seriously. We can’t villainise him until we know the truth and let him do his job

  • @hollywoodkid9195
    @hollywoodkid91953 ай бұрын

    Seems like the journalists and Zack brown are the only ones that talk about it.

  • @Sederiq
    @Sederiq3 ай бұрын

    If any accusation against any team's principal would cause automatic suspension from his role, tomorrow every team principal will have to deal with some kind of accusation, sourced by competitors, so that he is forced to step away for some time, thus damaging team's performance. Neither of the Wolfs stepped down, not called for investigation, when they had to deal with their own scandal, so...

  • @brianzoowab
    @brianzoowab3 ай бұрын

    Honestly, it’s always been awkward when it comes to Horner and his behavior over all these years. Nothing new from this character.

  • @jordandahl1032
    @jordandahl10323 ай бұрын

    Nobody is invincible...hope F1, RB, and the FIA do the right thing here.

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