Remember when the internet's dumbest personalities thought Peterson was the second coming?

@arhael1

4 жыл бұрын

Do you want to make a bet, that he will spin this story to prove he's the second coming? He the ubermensch, thanks to his wisdom, and money (hail to the capitalism), overcome his serious illness, came back from the edge of life and death. And how all of this will be prove about how anything and everything he say is ultimate truth.

@ScoopMeisterGeneral

4 жыл бұрын

Remember back when everyone seemed to care about what people like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopopodopolopodopolous were doing all the time as well? Those guys are still around and they still have their hardcore followers, but those of us outside of that right wing bubble rarely hear anything about them these days. It's the same with Peterson. Internet personalities like them usually fade away after their 5 minutes of fame is up. The news cycles move on to the next big right wing "controversy" and the reactionary right wing mob that only ever cared about them insofar as it gave them an excuse to "trigger the libs" dutifully follows suit. It's all just meaningless, manufactured nonsense.

@ScoopMeisterGeneral

4 жыл бұрын

@R ELK In English please.

@phorse

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScoopMeisterGeneral He was probably shaking as he typed his reply... Maximum triggered.

@maryannlammersen6536

4 жыл бұрын

@R ELK Watch outfor that blue wave. Good wins out and hate always loses......in the End.

the key is that she went out of her way to insist that it wasn't a "psychological" addiction - just implying that it was an unfortunate side effect of perfectly normal medicine. And the grift goes on.....

@EmptyWoods

4 жыл бұрын

The addiction is not psychological, but the reason for taking the drug originally, anxiety, usually is.

@floyd3625

4 жыл бұрын

If that is infact true, what do you think she should have said? And is it not possible she belives this? Its not easy being objektive when its your father. Doing this video is kicking someone that is down, even if it wasnt his daughter doing the video i would find listening to allknowing sam seder just cheding doubt on someones recovery distasteful.

@dinospumoni5611

4 жыл бұрын

maureen63 addiction is psychological too, or perhaps more accurately, a behavioral disorder.

@dinospumoni5611

4 жыл бұрын

Rasmus Persson the only point Seder made in the video was criticism of the newspaper for reporting a verbatim script sent to them without any verification or original research. It wasn’t really aimed at the Petersons at all from him. Jamie, yah

@marcusmalone

4 жыл бұрын

'Coincidentally', this is exactly the sort of evasion cult leaders engage in when their fallibility is exposed via some or other illness.

Guys this entire clip a horrendous take. Apparently in this story nothing can be taken at face value, even from Peterson's daughter? They never denied an addiction, they were desperate to seek help, and then you insinuate that it's plausible none of this ever even happened. Just disgusting.

@RMT192

4 жыл бұрын

She said it was a physical addiction - that's bollocks when you're taking it for anxiety!

@LittleBigPoet

3 жыл бұрын

There's no compassion to be had for the Peterson family. They are enemies of the 99%

I think Jordan needs to cleans his house before he tells others to do the same.

@jodihouts6032

4 жыл бұрын

Appears that is what he's doing.

@andrewlawlor2686

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think anything Jordan has written or said is invalidated by a terminally ill wife and battle with his own health. How quick the mob descends...?

@jodihouts6032

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not criticizing Peterson, I'm complimenting him for practicing what he preaches. Takes a lot of strength to admit weakness and a need for help, especially in his position as a "celebrity" professor. Tons of respect for this man.

Wait, wait... conservatives keep screaming that the US has the best health care system in the world! So why did their hero, Jordan Peterson, have to go to Russia for treatment instead of flying to the US? This is where everyone comes to get the best treatment anywhere! Right, Sebastian Gorka and Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson?

@astroblurf2513

4 жыл бұрын

Kalepsis point taken, but unironically it’s because these Russian doctors let him detox all at once without the counseling, which may have killed him and has a high risk of relapse

@mart9898

4 жыл бұрын

Because he's Canadian you idiot, and he's obsessed with Russia. Who wrote a forward to new edition of Gulag Archipelago? Who named his daughter after Russian leader?

@frankjuster8726

4 жыл бұрын

the US DOES have the best health care system in the world , but here's the rub...FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT !

@Kody_El_Durado

4 жыл бұрын

@@frankjuster8726 They don't and Peterson could certainly afford it without question. Next.

"If you can't even clean up your own room, who the hell are you to give advice to the world?" -Jordan Peterson

@DokisKalin1

4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@kpax45

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like having a clean room wasn't the answer to everything for Peterson. He is a drug addict, who knows what other problems he has, never was a fan of his myself.

@andrewlawlor2686

4 жыл бұрын

A terminally ill wife, enormous stress and a health battle. Those laughing that he should clean his own room should be ashamed.

@anzekokalj1374

4 жыл бұрын

Cleaning up your own room doesn't mean you somehow become immune to tragedies occurring in your life. It simply means fixing what you can and want to fix and to keep doing as consistently as possible. The fact that his life isn't perfect (no one's is) doesn't mean he didn't clean up his room or that he shouldn't be giving advice to other people. What a stupid and simplistic view of the statement.

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewlawlor2686 JP the hypocrite should be ashamed lol

Jordan Peterson is at the bottom of a dominance hierarchy. Or well, that's my read on it based on what Peterson says...

People are conservative until they experience something where they need community or social services.

@LightAndShaddow5

4 жыл бұрын

+The Seeker True. I'd also suggest that people are liberal, until they experience their rights being too diluted by trying to include too many of those less fortunate than themselves.

@ScoopMeisterGeneral

4 жыл бұрын

@@LightAndShaddow5 I don't understand what you mean. Rights should apply to everyone anyway.

@LightAndShaddow5

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScoopMeisterGeneral Sure, I'll give you an example, maybe you can experience a bit of conservatism yourself. Progressives often say "Free healthcare for all", or "raise the minimum wage". They don't mean literally "for everyone", they just mean "I want to believe this is for everyone, because it is too painful to realize that we are excluding people, and that we HAVE to exclude people". Deeper than that, they mean "We need to make progress somehow, it has to go in baby steps, we can't afford to include everyone, it is unthinkably difficult to include everyone, and would probable cause collapse". For example, why don't we increase the minimum wage by 500%? Sure that would mean the richest people would get less, but it would create more equality. For example, if we raise the minimum wage in North America from about 60 cents to $3.00 per hour, and remove border between the "US" and "Mexico". That would give people in the bottom of North America, (what we call "Mexico") a wage rise of about 500%. Surely if there is a right to a minimum wage, that should apply regardless of where people are born? Try to do that for the entire planet. Living standards of people in the West would plummet. Then do it for healthcare for literally all humans on the planet (ie, "for all"), except make sure people have access to clean toilets and drinking water. If there isn't enough money (or doctors) to give everyone on the planet comprehensive health care (there currently isn't), then reallocate all money from all non life threatening surgeries (let alone cosmetic surgeries) to life threatening surgeries regardless of where they are on earth. "You have a broken finger? Sorry, yes it's bent, but just let it heal crooked, because we have sent half the doctors abroad in order to bring the global health care standard up the level where any medical problem worse than a broken leg is treated, we can't currently afford to attend to broken fingers." Try giving "Free college" to every human on the planet. How would you react if Bernie said "Instead of making free college subject to having a piece of paper saying you are an "American citizen", we are going to use that money towards free college for all people on the planet. So now the program will cost roughly 10x as much as before, or if we don't have enough money, we'll just have to cut funding for PhDs. Why should anyone have the right for funding towards a PhD if someone on the planet doesn't even have money for a college degree?" Seriously, if Bernie said that on Day 1 of his presidency, "I have become more progressive, these are my ideas", you would see almost everyone saying "Woah, those are not Americans", which really means "We can't afford to include those people within the group we want to grant rights to, it would seriously mess things up, so we have to draw a boundary around a made up concept called "Citizenship"." Which really means "I am taking a conservative position and being against equal rights for all, because it would dilute the quality of life (and ability to contribute) for the select privileged group I am part of." You might also be feeling conservative in terms of "Those ideas are way to out there, what do you mean citizenship is made up...".

@ScoopMeisterGeneral

4 жыл бұрын

@@LightAndShaddow5 Sanders isn't talking about extending his policies to everyone on the planet. Nor is he talking about raising the minimum wage by 500%, or removing the border between the US and Mexico, or a thing of the sort. You can't just dream up some absurd "what if" scenario and then pretend that's what progressives think. Equal rights for all people doesn't mean that the West has to pay for the entire world's healthcare and free college. This is just nonsense.

@LightAndShaddow5

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScoopMeisterGeneral "Equal rights for all people doesn't mean that the West has to pay for the entire world's healthcare and free college. This is just nonsense." You just experienced some conservativism, by hearing a position that was so far to the left that it was outside your overton window. You can't get equal rights for all (eg free college), without the complete desolving of boundaries of "west" and "east", into a global one world government. About 100 years ago, president Woodrow Wilson attempted to unite the world politically, including having everyone speak the common language of Esperanto. Plenty of people have thought about disolving nation state barriers in order to extend equal financial and social rights to all humans on the planet. You can go a step further, throw in some vegan activism and you have equal rights for all animals (not just human animals) on the planet. I think it just seems like nonsense to you because you have fairly mainstream progressiveness, which is conservative in comparison to such ideas. Mainstream conservatives feel as "nonsense" about free college, as you probably do about what I've written. Yet, if humanity continues progressing, both will happen at some stage.

Horrid irony that he tells people not to lecture others until they have their shit together, yet his life is a mess

@xboxfullauto1000

4 жыл бұрын

Horrid lying that he has never uttered what you just said.

@harrymears1623

4 жыл бұрын

I'd say that the decisions he made during the course of this medical situation were reasonable and that it is essentially misfortune

@LightAndShaddow5

4 жыл бұрын

+JaneLane187 Has he lectured people while his life was a mess? Presumably you agree that he wasn't lecturing while he was in hospital in intensive care. Or are you making the argument that his life has been a mess the whole time?

@janelane187

4 жыл бұрын

Light And Shadow dudes been living on beef tell me thats a sign of a normal and healthy human being, i’ll wait sweetie

@harrymears1623

4 жыл бұрын

@@janelane187 why has he been only eating beef? That's crazy. The only reason I could think of to just eat beef would be, I dont know, if all other foods he tried resulted in month long episodes of severe debilitating depression. Oh wait. I remember now. That is the case.

Jordan Peterson is in grave danger, send money quick no time to explain.

The National Post is an openly conservative newspaper in Canada. They are rarely if ever challenged on poor journalism because they are considered to be an established news source. Columnists from the National Post are regularly seen on almost every political news show in Canada as familiar pundits and are considered to be a part of the "old guard" of news media. Challenging them on any article would be like challenging your crazy right wing uncle, you want to do it, but you are also used to his ranting and raving and you know nothing you can say will change his mind.

@thelionskiln

4 жыл бұрын

So true.

If he was in ‘critical condition’ how did he survive a 12 hour flight to Russia?

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe he's dead? Poor guy. Also... Sucks that last of us 2 got delayed. That actually effects me!

"Before you help someone, you should find out why that person is in trouble. You shouldn't merely assume that he or she is a noble victim of unjust circumstances and exploitation. It's the most unlikely explanation, not the most probable. In my experience - clinical and otherwise - it's just never been that simple. Besides, if you buy the story that everything terrible just happened on its own, with no personal responsibility on the part of the victim, you deny that person all agency in the past (and, by implication, in the present and future, as well). In this manner, you strip him or her of all power." - Jordan Peterson I can't believe JP's own daughter would completely deny her own father's agency by making by making him a noble victim of circumstances. JP's addiction is obviously way different than the addicts he preaches about who are entirely to blame for their own circumstances. JP is the victim here, meanwhile everybody else needs to take accountability for their own situation. The fact that anybody would ever point out JP's own hypocrisy is unacceptable. /s

@rmbrown5736

4 жыл бұрын

help from society for me, personal responsibility for everyone else

@thatbadhuh

4 жыл бұрын

@@EM-wt6qe yeah that crossed the line completely. This isn't a joke. But pointing out hypocrisy is fair. And BERNIE needs to get elected these people need help. Bernie 2020

@akirakirawabushi7019

4 жыл бұрын

@UC3rF51XPc2OvnM-q6HONAYw lmfao, as if the plague of the far-right in americuntia was the (only) fault of mental health haha, you're funny. Love how most of u just ignore the blatant, obvious truth, that american are just attracted to far-right bullshit. Theres a reason an absolute fraud like alex jones, or trump can prosper here.and its not the fault of the mental health.

@onepartyroule

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the point.

@theapod

4 жыл бұрын

art!

I'm glad Jordan Peterson's sense of humor is back. It's been gone a really long time.

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

@djgiga Ladies and gentlemen, re-introducing everyone’s favourite fake-“intellectual”, now armed with a never before seen sense of humour, and while he’s no longer okay he’ll always be altright, the new and improved Jordon Peterson & Daughter!!! Make sure to your copy of his new book: 12 steps to recovery!

@mr.anonymous5501

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogozov You just look bitter or like an idiot, since he's cracking joke and getting laughs frequently in pretty much all his videos, except the most intense debates.

@maryannlammersen6536

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.anonymous5501 Oh yeah, Jordan laughing at his own stupid jokes...a treat!

@blaidencortel

4 жыл бұрын

Victor Rogozovsky Masterful response. Well done.

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

Orion Wyler @thank you for the props, I was sincere but admittedly fired up when I wrote that... I really hope he’s not 12 and in a bad place or something lol. I don’t want to sound like I think I wrote anything so profound someone would let it affect them... but from what I know 12 year olds are young enough to be really dumb and old enough to be really sad. (If you are that please understand sentiment I don’t actually know you at all and just sent comeback, intellectual jousting is how sincere adults learn sometimes... if your not FU incel)

This is a disgusting video. What happened to your channel? His family seems to be going thru a horrible rough patch. Definitely unsubscribing.

@Muskateering

4 жыл бұрын

I unsubbed from them ages ago, they're acting like school bullies here and saying horrible disgusting shit about a family who are going through a really rough time, it's unredeemable, deplorable behaviour, and if I were in his family I'd try to get this video and channel reported.

he's got an addiction and he's not capable of "pulling himself up by the bootstraps" I'm guessing?

@jackarmstrong5645

4 жыл бұрын

@@swiftie762 So he is stupid in other words.

@jackarmstrong5645

4 жыл бұрын

@@pjaw8226 To stop a drug that works in the brain cold turkey simply because you want to is stupidity. Don't do it. I am a pharmacist.

@jackarmstrong5645

4 жыл бұрын

@@pjaw8226 I judge what he says in public. He brought this issue forward. The statement from his daughter is bizarre. There is no illness that can only be treated in Russia. That is a lie. You can't lie to people's face and also ask for sympathy.

@utterlyviolet

4 жыл бұрын

Dreadox If his daughter's going to lie about about Western medicine doing this to him when Peterson went to Russia to go into a medically induced coma to avoid feeling the cold turkey, then it's manufactured sympathy they both want. Draiman.

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

@@swiftie762 JP is not a psychiatrist lol

Welp maybe Jordan Peterson should have cleaned up his room .

I feel bad for Peterson (addiction or not, the guy has some sort of major issues). I feel bad for anyone heavily invested in his "philosophy." Hopefully, Jordan gets himself together, maybe he'll stop acting like such a demented weirdo.

@girlinahat3407

4 жыл бұрын

Feels like he is undiagnosed on the autism spectrum- he is not highly autistic but some of the behavior show him unable to relate to people, stress by certain stimulation and anxiety.

@arhael1

4 жыл бұрын

I don't feel bad for him. His teachings are damaging society, creating/ enabling people with fascistic tendencies. And he made shit ton of money of that. Don't get me wrong, I wish him to recover and get healthy. But he will not change because of this, he will try to monetise this situation as much as possible, and highly probable will spin this story to make him some kind of ubermencshen.

@timothyletwin5911

4 жыл бұрын

@@arhael1 He is not a fascist. I'm not sure a lot of people actually no what fascism is. He has never claimed this and shows no evidence of this in his teachings. Please recite something that he has said to prove this.

@arhael1

4 жыл бұрын

@@timothyletwin5911 I didn't wrote that he's a fascist. He's a conman. I wrote his teachings are creating/ enabling people with fascist tendencies. And no I will not recite anything, since I stopped playing with Peterson years ago, since It's waste of time. So looking back for exact quotes that prove this is even more waste of time for me. If you didn't get it till now, you will never do. And to me you're a person who don't know what fascism is.

@seanmatthewking

4 жыл бұрын

Rafal Z What do you mean, because he spoke with Milo? I think he says a lot of nonsense and harms political discourse with his nonsense, but you really have to clarify things like “enabling people with fascist tendencies.”

I'm not gonna mock JBP's problems, etc. I'm not gonna stand over others that do though. JBP's done a lot to damage peoples' lives. He's got a tremendous amount of things to atone for.

@bricktea3645

4 жыл бұрын

How did he damage people?

@PapaSmurf11182nd

4 жыл бұрын

@@bricktea3645 Being wrong about Bill C-16

@LightAndShaddow5

4 жыл бұрын

+PapaSmurf11182nd In ADDITION to what you said, JP's ALSO contributed to alot of peoples' lives. He's got a tremendous amount of things to be proud of.

@PapaSmurf11182nd

4 жыл бұрын

@@LightAndShaddow5 I'm not denying what you are saying. I can see his appeal. But at the moment, I guess I don't care very much about that.That's not what we're talking about. I'm sorry, I know that me saying, "I don't care," is not easy to hear. Whenever you're having a conversation like this, it's important to stay on topic. And the topic at hand, the one that I started was the damage that he (JBP) has done.

@user-te2kk2nt4q

4 жыл бұрын

@@PapaSmurf11182nd I would actually say he lied about it. And made a living on harvesting that outrage.

Let's overlook the fact that it's incredibly stressful to be the world's leading bulshit artist

@55vermeer

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@andrewlawlor2686

4 жыл бұрын

How so?

@zerazara

4 жыл бұрын

What is bulshit?

One more thing and Imma head out: Anyone here remember the scene in 'Brokeback Mountain' where Jack ended up being killed by some 'good ol' boys' meaning no harm? Okay, remember when Ennis called Jack's widowed wife Lureen to find out how Jack died, and she had to recited that bullshit story about a tire accidentally blowing up, the rim breaking his nose/jaw, laying him out cold, bleeding to death, and so on? Well, that cold demeanor that Anne Hathaway had while playing Lureen Twist in that part of the movie, and reciting that bullshit story, is the same demeanor that Mikhaila Peterson seems to have while talking about the issue of her father's health, treatment and recovery. It's not just my bias causing me to get 'that vibe.' Now I understand folks deal with real shit like this in different ways, but my point is, questioning and doubt about the legitimacy of this story should at least be understood. if Jordan is as bad off as he is letting on, then I wish him recovery, and with that recovery, I hope he makes repairs for all the harm he's caused, as per one of the 12 steps. Addiction is no laughing matter, but karma is. And despite the folks who are deep in the comment section and showing how selective their political correctness is, that is the reason Sam and Mike are laughing it up, because Jordan Peterson has shown himself to be a hypocrite in a major way, especially those he lectured about getting one's shit together before ever trying to make the world better for themselves or anyone else. And those who are clutching their pearls and 'cancelling' Sam Seder/Michael Brooks for their response to this story? Well, I guess you just 'took it out of context', and maybe you should watch the entire show to grasp all the ideas in their 'proper' context. 😉

@willywonka7812

4 жыл бұрын

No, only the dogmatic simpletons. Imagine the things you could have learned if you weren't so bigoted

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Also F that *ss hole with the “imma” comment. I said it so you don’t have to, it’d obviously be beneath you to do so anyway. Imma say it again. To the celibate lonely guy with the first response, F U

@wearealreadydeadfam8214

4 жыл бұрын

Lorita Alanzo Causal slang? Not in my comment section!

@aird0zer

4 жыл бұрын

BeastNation2009 If karma is real, it will surely be coming for Sam and Michael? You need to understand this story better to really speak on it. JBP disappeared for 2+ months. Didn’t want to be touring, teaching or talking to groups while he was struggling with an addiction. Not being hypocritical, just responsible for himself. Seriously I don’t get you people, talking about “selective political correctness” as a clear offender.

@heroinmom153

4 жыл бұрын

Why would any of the lobster boys make any attempt to grasp the actual context? They're, quite hypocritically, only interested in their tribalist, identity politics narrative. They don't give a flying shit about the reality of the situation, they're just mindless followers. They whine and cry all day about PC culture and perceived victimhood, until they feel they're the victims; then it's somehow different, and not about their feelings. It's clear that Jordan Peterson is a grifter and a gargantuan hypocrite, and he'll say anything to appeal to his incel lobster boys as long as they keep handing over their money (or most likely their mom's money) to him.

JP is always a victim, while complaining about victims.

@majhee55

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Walker the whole thing is staged, and a complete lie. The Russia thing gave it away.

@rneedham667

4 жыл бұрын

It's an give me attention hoax!

@brentb5303

4 жыл бұрын

@@majhee55 😂I know. Its like he was watching Rocky 4 in rehab and thought "I need to involve Russia in my story".

@MikeWalkerSociologist

4 жыл бұрын

majhee55 I assume so. Kinda hard to check when it is some mysterious, one of a kind treatment that no one else ever heard of. Conversely, if it wasn’t a scam, and was indeed a true medical mystery (along with his “immunodeficiency reaction to food”), one would assume doctors would be talking about and working together to solve the mystery. That is how science works. Besides, I am sure this guy would love for the “JP Syndrome” to go down in the history books. In short, he would not only NOT be hiding, he would be announcing it.

@brentb5303

4 жыл бұрын

@They should have never given me internet It's always fun to see someone defend a hypocrite. Adorable and yet sad at the same time.

Whow, i'm a lefty, but have to say after hearing through this: "what a bunch of &$$§?/$%" !

Came here for an honest update and what I found is some people laughing at a woman sharing a very painful and personal message? First laugh I heard I thought i heard it wrong but it kept continuing through the clip.

@hbsupreme1499

2 жыл бұрын

Peterson hows down played people experience

I couldn't agree more with Michael Brooks. Just admit that you're struggling with addiction. There's no shame. You're not special or above other addicts.

@Zimzimzim602

4 жыл бұрын

I am kind of grossed out from everyones mindset here. He is clearly going through a hard time. They owe us no explanation on what is going on. They talked about how he became addicted. How he reacted to the meds and why he is away and what they are trying to do to get better. We don't deserve more information. Addiction is awful and we don't get to judge others how they deal with it. It is gross how people are talking about this situation... What do you want them to do give out medical charts? Let them deal with it and stop pretending a daughter giving an update on her fathers addiction is somehow a negative. It is hard enough without people shaming them into saying they are not doing enough or claiming they are acting superior or special.

@CharlieCarrel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zimzimzim602 Yeah, 100% I am amazed how people's compassion suddenly disappears completely for people they disagree with.

@hurkamur1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zimzimzim602 *physical dependency 😒 People dislike him because he's a cult grifter who gets his ego jollies (and monies) recycling the old, tired rugged individualism tropes. So when this happens it's just kind of ... Really? I doubt that anyone here is wishing him anything but a full recovery.

@___LC___

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan P You really can’t see through the bs in that narrative? Really? It’s propaganda, not an explanation.

@Zimzimzim602

4 жыл бұрын

@@___LC___ We don't deserve an explanation its none of our business.

peterson: oh, i'm too smart and responsible to get hooked on drugs also peterson: people who get hooked on drugs do so because of their own moral failure also peterson: hey i'm famous, give me some more of those, they're nice also peterson: gets hooked peterson again: surprised pikachu doctors: we have an established procedure to fix this issue, but it's a long and uncomfortable, but ultimately safe and effective treatment peterson: yeah, i'ma go to russia and take the easy way out so i can keep blaming poor people for taking the poor man's vacation also peterson: almost dies also also peterson: i completely disobeyed my doctors and went to a third world country to take the easy way out and almost died also also also peterson: *several surprised pikachu faces*

@smittysomething3520

4 жыл бұрын

Brother Sanguinary From what I’ve seen he’s a pretty empathetic guy. Seems like you just go off of what other people say. The only guy on that stupid IDW that doesn’t completely suck in my opinion

@coffee115

4 жыл бұрын

@@smittysomething3520 Lol nah. he's implied with lots of words that "mental illness = moral failure". Basically old bronze age bullshit with a fresh coat of paint.

@spoton3278

4 жыл бұрын

His room must have gotten so messy.

@MrHodoAstartes

4 жыл бұрын

Russia is a Second World country. The alignment into First, Second, Third comes out of the Cold War where the world divided up into two massive power blocs and a number of unaligned nations that mostly had poverty and underdevelopment in common.

@hurkamur1

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrHodoAstartes Yeah but Russia has stronger bootstraps, rugged individualism or cleaner rooms or some shit?

Everyone is overlooking the main point in all of this. Sam and Michael both agreed with Jamie in this video.

@thenotebookgm830

4 жыл бұрын

This wins the comment section.

Bro eat some damn vegetables...this man was eating nothing but meat and benzos

He's still in recovery mode from Dave Rubin's high level ideas.

@GaryParris

4 жыл бұрын

that or the laughing gas that creates all that squeeky voice lol

@DokisKalin1

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@marcusmalone

4 жыл бұрын

Competition must've kicked in a bit too forcefully.

@liesbethdevries4986

4 жыл бұрын

Great comment 🤣

@daikucoffee5316

4 жыл бұрын

@They should have never given me internet There are so many flavors, yet you choose to be salty.

What kind of fucking quack doctor prescribed a benzo for an "autoimmune reaction to food"? What kind of doctor prescribes extra medication for somebody experiencing grief? What kind of psychologist accepts these treatments as legitimate?

@NJ-wb1cz

4 жыл бұрын

Imaginary doctor. Bad psychologist.

@joqiii3

4 жыл бұрын

flyindevil Doctors, especially psychiatrists give out benzos a lot. They just believe what big Pharma tells. Trust me, I was dependent once myself. It’s living hell to stop and most psychiatrist do not have a clue how to help you. In fact, they have lifetime patients, there is not much incentive for the doctor to take a chance when someone is trying to stop benzos.

@NJ-wb1cz

4 жыл бұрын

@@joqiii3 I doubt millionaire Peterson had such a doctor. And I doubt psychologist Peterson couldn't fucking do a google search on a psychiatric drug he was prescribed, let alone not know what this was beforehand. What it looks like is Peterson simply got addicted. Not duped by a doctor, not duped by pharma - he tried something, got his high, thought he was better than all these weak minded junkies and he wasn't.

@user-te2kk2nt4q

4 жыл бұрын

maybe he did try some self-medication?

@joqiii3

4 жыл бұрын

whenwillmakeupagoodname I choose to believe the daughter. As a benzo survivor I know how insidious that class of drugs can be. I 100% know, even knowing quite a bit about benzodiazepines and totally understanding the package insert warnings, that these are nasty drugs almost impossible to stop.

I think they were pretty respectful. As respectful as you can be when somebody's kid makes a press release in a nightgown on youtube.

Peterson for years has written papers and given speeches about the failings of addicts, and he turns out to be one himself. That is the irony of his addiction.

@apopj5322

2 жыл бұрын

his wife was diagnosed with cancer

@AnnoyingLordFoolofLands

2 жыл бұрын

@@apopj5322 as if other addicts don't have a good reason

@MJW238

Жыл бұрын

Peterson repeatedly and strongly emphasises in his books that you shouldn’t try to change the world until your own life is absolutely, positively, 100% sorted out. Well he gets involved in politics, wrote multiple books telling others how to live, but it doesn’t look like his own life is 100% sorted (as of course no one’s ever is - which is why he says that. It’s an inherently conservative position)

So insistent on us knowing, ahead of anything, that he wasn't "mentally addicted"? Christ, these people.

To all the screeching Peterson fans and civility fetishists: They did not make fun of drug addiction. They did not make fun of suicidal thoughts. They made fun of spinning this kind of thing to protect your brand and an absurd joke about Peterson's daughter aggressively taking over the family business. They were pretty clear about the seriousness of the issues raised and their desire to treat those with respect, and to the extent that any commentary on those was made, it was that Peterson Sr with his bootstraps ideology is not compassionate enough about others facing these sorts of issues. So please spare us the pearl-clutching, JBP is guilty of punching down but in this clip, TMR certainly are not.

@09BiGDylan

4 жыл бұрын

Great point. I hope you don't mind I copy and pasted your response in another comment because i really think this should be seen by as many as JP fans as possible and maybe the potential neutral observers who may be sympathetic for JP on a human level.

@JeremiahTaylorOnline

4 жыл бұрын

Laughing mockery is not treating the topic with respect. Don't delude yourself. Do better.

@russ4moose

4 жыл бұрын

So, does the fact that I find it disgusting to parody and shame a daughter announcing her father's death make me a "civility fetishist"? If yes, I accept the label wholeheartedly.

@09BiGDylan

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeremiahTaylorOnline I reserve respect for people who deserve it, sadly, Peterson is not one of those people. I won't let you concern troll me or shame me for not feeling sympathy for him when he is someone who is partially responsible for a movement I deem dangerous. I get where you are coming from and I'd probably be in your position if this was someone else but I can't bring myself to care in this particular situation. IF his daughter was to talk about this in a way that didn't shield their grift and poltical ideology, I would be 100% more sympathetic. Since that is not the case, Peterson should have cleaned his room and slayed the dragon to avoid a situation like this. The fact that you are trying to make this about addiciton broadly is a mistake on your part. This is about Peterson, not addiciton.

@09BiGDylan

4 жыл бұрын

@@russ4moose How did they shame her exactly?

So he's just human. Hoping for a solid recovery. I don't wish any of the issues he went through on any one. I think I don't agree with his world view, but that's beside the point.

@HansdeVriesHK

4 жыл бұрын

I'm wanting him to debate Richard Wolff after the recovery.

@aird0zer

4 жыл бұрын

HansdeVriesHK What a level-headed and reasonable response to this situation, from someone who disagrees with him. Amazing!!! Thank you for the kind words and a brightening of this comment section.

@brianfinnegan664

4 жыл бұрын

At last, some actual compassion

@nootnewt9323

4 жыл бұрын

@HansdeVriesHK Same 😔

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianfinnegan664 "Have some humility. Have some courage. Use your judgement, and protect yourself from too-uncritical compassion and pity." Any guesses who said that?

The joke started with JP’s lobster narrative. He dismissed a lot of people & ironically he fell in the same hole. Poor little lobster.

@marcusmalone

4 жыл бұрын

@@beepbopboop7727 that sounds like a 70s prog rock album title 👍

@09BiGDylan

4 жыл бұрын

@@beepbopboop7727 the fall of lobster king 2: shelled and buttered

@missburn

4 жыл бұрын

@@09BiGDylan 😂😂

@Mishkafofer

4 жыл бұрын

You logic sound off. If doctor that treats cancer gets cancer, it ironic too?

@newbooksmell4163

4 жыл бұрын

​@@beepbopboop7727 ... No. Just no. You're acting as if addicts are just stupid lazy individuals who need help because they're stupid and/or lazy. N-O! What about therapists who are in therapy (Because most are)? are they stupid cause they should "Know better"? As if they can just get over their circumstances? Also.. he's a psychologist not a psychiatrist so maybe google the difference and get over yourself. +(even though this should make no difference) This man changed his whole diet so that he didn't have to take his antidepressants. Do you seriously believe he lacks discipline? If there's some obvious change that he's not making; do you really think he wouldn't have made it already?

According to the Peterson family Russia has better health care/rehab options than Canada or the U.S.? But US style capitalism is SOOO wonderful??

@MoebiusUK

4 жыл бұрын

Good point Babs.

@Brawnald

4 жыл бұрын

Russia is not a communist country and has not been for decades.

@rini6

4 жыл бұрын

Barbara Eaton He’s likely seeking an unusual unproven alternative treatment

@Alex-cw3rz

4 жыл бұрын

@@Brawnald it has universal healthcare

@Alex-cw3rz

4 жыл бұрын

@@rini6 well yeah but according to Peterson it's the free market that would come up with the new treatments

He read the communist manifesto and found out his entire life was a lie. (Context: he admitted he only recently read it right before the Zizek debate)

@Asrahn

4 жыл бұрын

Comrade Peterson has seen the light

This is what happens when you slouch and let your room get dirty

@HRDRZ

4 жыл бұрын

😁👌💯

Stumbled onto this video by accident, and never heard of Sam - Guys if others like me, are to get their first impression of you from this video you have a serious problem. The seriousness of the matter, and suffering of the family should not be treated in this matter. You are literally taking advantage of human pain, real or not... Think ME TOO - (To help you relate). I dont see any humor here.

The National Post is Canada's paper version of Fox News

@nrXic

4 жыл бұрын

Many of us in Canada call it "The Irrational Post".

he's a a drug addict it's not complicated

Are you people laughing at a suffering man and his family? Since you do not know the details, why mock him and his family. How indecent and cruel. I have enjoyed your podcast very much over the years. It often includes thoughtful analysis of the political landscape. However, your behaviour here is indecent. It is beneath you to behave in such a callous manner. I hope you watch this, take a moment to think about your conduct. Furthermore, there is nothing contradictory about Jordan seeking help for an addiction. Jordan himself, as a psychotherapist, would say that seeking help for an addiction IS PULLING YOURSELF UP BY THE BOOTSTRAPS!

@DaveNagrom

4 жыл бұрын

JohnnyTheWolf, This is why people need to actually try to comprehend a person’s argument. Peterson never once said that he did not want transpeople to have the same legal protections as others. NEVER. His argument has always been that compelled speech, is tyrannical, and it is! Language evolves as new terms become part of common parlance, and thus, become generally accepted as part of the lexicon. That is, and has always been, his point! Sadly, his arguments have been mischaracterized, and he has been maligned based on what others insist that he is saying, rather than what he has actually said. This is common in today’s world, where we rarely have discussions with the notion that someone else may actually have something to teach us, and vice versa. What usually happens, is that people approach each other with a spirit of antagonism, and make ad hominem attacks, aimed at “owning” or “destroying” each other. I oppose such a destructive practise. Dialog is an integral part of progressing as a society. I may not agree with everything that Dr. Peterson says, but I certainly agree with that!

@PirtJones

4 жыл бұрын

JohnnyTheWolf Keep fighting that opinion battle, you are sure to win something someday. Good luck in life nonetheless.

@DaveNagrom

4 жыл бұрын

JohnnyTheWolf , At the Senate Hearings, in which Peterson appeared, Peterson quoted the Human Rights Commission, the administrative body which applies the statute. In response to Peterson’s contention that he would not use pronouns imposed by law, the Commission stated that non-compliance with use of a complainant’s preferred pronouns would “likely constitute an offence” under the act. The bill imposed penalties which include a fine, and failure to pay the fine could result in imprisonment. Peterson has never said that transpeople should not have the same rights as others, and your contention that the bill does not compel speech, despite evidence to the contrary, does not contradict this fact.

@PirtJones

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Nagrom yo I hate to say this but there is no way that person you are replying to has the mental capacity to understand or accept evidence contrary to his beliefs, thumbs up on providing actual facts though, rare breed indeed

@PirtJones

4 жыл бұрын

JohnnyTheWolf cool story bro

How long did his sidekick laugh with "it's the beef girl"... Fucking hilarious.... you shouldn't make jokes until you have more practise. Hint make them funny. She eats meat because of an immune deficiency, and says it not for everyone. But hey lies and click bait. This is still a Young Turks Channel right?

@wabbittv8923

4 жыл бұрын

Amen!

He really should have stood up straight with his shoulders back and cleaned his room.

@akirakirawabushi7019

4 жыл бұрын

medicine are a cultural marxist plot, secretly made by the post-modernist to take away your guns, ur WOMENS and to destroy the West

What I find a bit odd is he was a practicing psychologist and the fact that he had never seen or knew about what can happen with benzos is strange.

@eliotcaber9606

4 жыл бұрын

I might be wrong but his field isnt related psychiatry at all. He does cognitive behavioral therapy I believe. The mind is super complex

@Cameron_F

4 жыл бұрын

@@eliotcaber9606 yeah I dont mean to imply he's a psychiatrist but from my experience psychologists usually also track medication and know about the classes, etc.

@___LC___

4 жыл бұрын

EliotCaber Psychologists must know about psychopharmacology and stay up to date on pharmaceuticals, as part of their practice. It’s taught in school and a part of everyday work in the field. He knew what he was taking was addictive and became addicted. The description of how his addiction evolved and his medical problems is inconsistent with what we know about the human body and medical detoxing. Parsing the truth from that load of lobster shite isn’t possible, but recognizing that they are trying to spin a narrative for his followers who are ignorant is easy.

@dancininthemoonlight6138

4 жыл бұрын

He may have thought that he could never be an addict . He is a psychologist he may have believed his own bs.

I don’t know what your commentators find funny about someone being in terrible shape. I discovered this show because of my interest in Bernie Sanders’ campaign as you guys have covered it extensively, but this video is very unfortunate. Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t mean you should be making fun of his physical and mental condition. Bad call.

Starts off with "I wanna be careful here".. well you blew that. What a horribly immature segment. Karma is a bitch, this type of stuff can sink your ship. I hope no one is making hateful videos about your channel when one of you gets a horrible diagnosis. Stop the hate, you're doing the world a disservice.

@wabbittv8923

4 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@AwesometownUSA

4 жыл бұрын

Wabbit TV amen!

Those feminine chaos dragons finally got him.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

And they probably didn't even buy him a drink before they did him in... tisk tisk tisk...

@LDrosophila

4 жыл бұрын

Lol comment gold

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

@@LDrosophila Well surely they at least took the effort to put on lipstick to gain his approval first. I hope...

@GaryParris

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@Alex-cw3rz

4 жыл бұрын

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 probably bought him an apple cider that took him of the edge.

Medically, their story makes absolutely no sense. To say, or imply, that they had no option but to go to a hospital in Russia is patently absurd. It sounds much, much more like Michael said, he has an addiction and that's too much like what happens to the ordinary rabble that he's supposed to be teaching. When it happens to him it must be something special, mysterious and even mystical which no "ordinary" medicine or treatment plan can deal with. They're trapped inside their own delusion. Or just cynically protecting their brand.

@tarafitzgerald3947

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but I think it might be more like this: JP has been self treating his mania with benzo's because he can't/won't admit to himself that he suffers from a chemical imbalance. It's far easier on his ego to believe his "food allergies" cause his bizarre behavior. He probably has been popping klonopin to bring him down from his manic highs for years.

@arhael1

4 жыл бұрын

First of all I always take benzos for anxiety created from food allergy ("extreme" reaction obviously). Who ever buy this, good luck in life. Second: I would think, that because of genius of capitalism, US hospitals should be the greatest on Earth. I mean doesn't that portrait US health-care system badly? Add to that wealth of Peterson. By his preaching this situation shouldn't even exist.

@jovaransguplar3019

4 жыл бұрын

@@arhael1 He's Canadian you fucking idiot

@eosapienrancher4045

4 жыл бұрын

Jovarans Guplar Yes but he thinks Canada is too socialist.

@55vermeer

4 жыл бұрын

@@jovaransguplar3019 But he talks CIA talking points you fucking idiot. "Commies kill ! Capitalists don't !" Fuck him.

Jordan Peterson “fan” here. I think this video does a fair point and makes fair points. The other guy is a bit of a dick though... I understand the likelihood that the Peterson’s are currently putting up a show of strength instead of being real, which I think may be a mistake if it is what they’re doing. Jordan and his father, grandfather and so on have all had severe cases of clinical, genetically predisposed depression which Jordan has suffered through his entire life. I think his model of belief, that which makes up his entire persona, is what he has constructed to deal and cope with his burden of crippling depression. His latest fall due to unfortunate and stressful life circumstances (his wife being severely ill) may have been enough to degrade his own self and become unfortunately dependent on addictive drugs hard to get off of. But his history of severe clinical depression and his latest falter does not invalidate his message. His message has helped him cope with depression and has helped others who don’t have their shit together get their shit together. And one last note on his supposed “transphobia.” Jordan Peterson doesn’t mind trans people or the use of preferred pronouns. What he does care about is being forced by law to use certain speech, which is an attack on personal liberty.

@tomethelridge5562

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Gillespie Bill C-16 was preventing businesses from being able to harass trans people, not “jailing everyone who wouldn’t use trans people’s pronouns”. It was hugely misrepresented by Peterson.

@brandon8667

4 жыл бұрын

I legit had the same thought process. That bill was about business owners calling their employees by their non preferred pronouns. Image if at work I was your supiavisor and called you "her/she or Miss". Its condensending, not a healthy work environment. Agree or disagree with that policy but Peterson MASSIVELY misrepresented it. It was opportunistic. He has videos before he got popular where he's shitting on PC when everyone on their internet + their grandma shat on people with green hair with wacky ideas. I think he tried to make himself a martyr for publicity.

@blumousey

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomethelridge5562 there was a court case based on c-16 where beauty therapists were being sued for refusing to wax "female" penises and balls. Thankfully the therapists won.

@emmashalliker6862

4 жыл бұрын

Faoor reasonable comment, as a Peterson fan I agree. They should just own this, life isn't easy and he has helped alot of people.

@alandgomez5905

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomethelridge5562 Yeah, I think it's funny how so many are pointing out how they were "helped" by him but fail to see the damage his misinformation (disinformation?) has caused. He can go fuck himself lol.

Lobsters don't like karma.

That apple cider he once had did it’s damage.

I’m sorry, but how ironic is it that he went to Russia!

@crazymulgogi

4 жыл бұрын

He was saved by Soviet trained, Marxist doctors.

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean Patrick What’s the skinny on why? I’m overwhelmed with irony over the title of his book atm, but I could use a good second hit if you would be so kind. In super short is fine I just want the general idea behind your comment. Thanks

@belliotrungy9107

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogozov public health in Russia means sky high TB and HIV rates due to hate based medicine. Nothing to see here comrade but yes we also sell snake oil. Dave went nextdoor for dual conversion therapy after he took the god pill. He's doing reps with Kadyrov now. Lastly Jordan said "to truly transcend the marxist flesh you must do krokodil."

He'll probably develop some form of brain damage and cognitive impairment both due to stopping benzos and his dangerous coma treatment in Russia. All the people I know who have taken benzos and quit them have some form of cognitive impairment despite tapering off in a safe way. Moreover, his coma treatment was also super risky and stupid. He might be somewhat alright now, but it's definitely not over yet. Things will get worse in the future. This will haunt him for many years to come. And besides all that, he can also relapse easily.

@TrekCycling

4 жыл бұрын

Discombobulate CA Yeah, this was basically a cold turkey and they probably switched him to a different gabageric medication anyway.

When your grift is so relentlessly exposed...

Rogan said he was put into a coma to detox and suffered the brain damage during the coma

@realityshift7130

4 жыл бұрын

That seems odd. Usually, you hear about people being put into a medically induced coma to prevent brain damage.

In a few years he's gonna be just an intellectual fusnote mention only in the stories about YT anti-SJW wave. I can imagine that his anxiety problem is the consequence of his slow fandango into oblivion.

@jackylaibach2351

4 жыл бұрын

@Flightof2Owls wannabe prophet something like Ayn Rand...if anybody actually remembers who she is

"Before you help someone, you should find out why that person is in trouble. You shouldn’t merely assume that he or she is a noble victim of unjust circumstance and exploitation. It is far more likely that a given individual has just decided to reject the path upward, because of its difficulty.” - Jordan Peterson

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, fuck Peterson.

@newbooksmell4163

4 жыл бұрын

​@Daisy Unchained I'm sorry, but a guy who changes his whole diet because he thinks it will improve his mood; like how has he not shown himself to be disciplined enough to keep his room clean (excuse the metaphor)? You also seem really angry at a person who has based his whole career on self improvement... Does his message hit home? Or are you the noble victim and Peterson the evil tyrannical dictator? (Ya know, despite him being the one in recovery...)

@LittleBigPoet

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly he sucks at following his own advice lolol. I would be ashamed to quote Peterson unironically. Here's another quote by him: "Women who wear makeup on the job and complain about sexual harassment are hypocrites." Truly inspiring stuff.

@matttriano

2 жыл бұрын

What a fucking sociopath. One should help others because one can and because another needs help. No other reason necessary. You are the other and they are you, simply extruded in different bodies and living different lives. We're all just walking each other home, even if Petersen is such a vulgar materialist that he can't recognize it.

He just needs to go on a red-meat-only diet and he'll be fine.

I wish Peterson had not worked so hard get so many people addicted to himself.

@newbooksmell4163

4 жыл бұрын

@Al Garnier My dude, for someone whose preaching about woes of preaching ignorance, It doesn't seem like you've never even watched a video of his.

He’s always struck me as a very sickly looking emaciated type of guy; of course, these types of guys many of them preach the loudest about being “a strong male” and how weakness is deplorable and all that, to the point of bordering on the pathological, they’re compensating for their own physical weakness imo. They pathologically detest weakness because they see it in themselves. Imo of course, just armchair psyching a bit. I feel empathy for him and his family though, his daughter has suffered terribly, you can just see it on her face. I wish I could give her a hug and comfort her somehow or just do anything to help ease her pain.

@heroinmom153

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. From your pic, you look like a strong guy (with regard to fitness, you obviously train for strength.) I get the impression that you realize your strength and don't have to go around trying to convince others that you're a strong male: they can see it. I know a lot of Peterson types like you mentioned. They're the tiny, insecure Napoleon syndrome guys who constantly have a big mouth and a loud bark, but if confronted by an actual "strong male," they'd shit their pants. I almost feel bad for them, or I would rather, if it weren't for their piss poor, insecure behavior.

@primeDecomposition

4 жыл бұрын

Heroin Mom Firstly, thank you. 😉 And physical strength is one thing, but there are obviously other kinds of strength that are more important. For example, the strength to beat deep addiction, I can’t even imagine it. Also, I realize that my physical strength is ephemeral at best; an unfortunate accident or sudden affliction could take it all away in an instant and I will be at the mercy of other’s empathy and compassion, so it’s best to exercise these virtues myself imo and not behave like some wannabe alpha ape. Which is almost a Darwinistic justification in a sense, one that perhaps even Peterson could appreciate.

Poor taste.

Klonopin is no fucking joke. I have epilepsy and have been taking it for fifteen years. The withdrawals are horrific. My head feels like it is on fire. I can't see straight, falling over, crashing into walls, etc. I have a had a few neurologists over the years, who have asked if I would like to go off this medication. I have always said no, specifically because you have to decrease the dose at an extremely slow rate, so much so that you have to stop living your life - under supervision by family and medical professionals. Luckily for me, Klonopin does help control my jerks. I am not a fan of this man, and the press surrounding this is strange, but whatever he is going through with this medication - trying to make ANY light of it is offensive.

@Adambsk18

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiktaalik He needs to suffer? Sounds like something a sociopath would say.

Perhaps he should have cleaned his room...

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

I've seen his room. It is a mess soo... I'll just leave it at that lol.

When a lobster is publicly rejected enough and is forced lower on the dominance hierarchy, its nervous system starts melting and it has to get on antidepressants. Then it has to be put in an artificial coma by the Soviets to freeze the brain's melting process and ameliorate the drug addiction. True story.

@hteur1

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely dont like the idea of people suffering, but he not only denied others' suffering but also justified it with this BS hierarchy you are mentioning. And as you said, maybe being on the receiving end of his discourse put him in this situation.

Peterson drones out in force.

@vaportrails7943

4 жыл бұрын

Sam John This channel is for drones. Peterson has defended free speech and thought against those authoritarian drones.

@emmashalliker6862

4 жыл бұрын

@@vaportrails7943 😂😂😂

@kpax45

4 жыл бұрын

For sure, they are quite the snowflakes too

@alandgomez5905

4 жыл бұрын

It's pretty funny to see how angry they are lol.

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

@@vaportrails7943 I guess his followers didn't get the "free speech" memo lol

I think you should take down the video. It's not a good look. I thought you were going to explain what's actually going on, not laugh at a man during one of his lowest points. I'm normally with you when it comes to opening up people's minds to the imperfect ideas of the alt right. But this has nothing to do with that. Please take down the video.

@bvishal2kn

4 жыл бұрын

Our free speech doesn’t end where your feelings begin. Stop demanding censorship

@chumbucket6989

4 жыл бұрын

Triggered?

He should clean up his act instead making the Russian tax payers fix it for him

@thebible4484

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if he cleaned his room he wouldn't be lying in his own shit

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

Lol he’s paying with insurance or out of pocket. But yes to your sentiment

To people concern trolling the cast for making light of the situation, you have to understand that JP's done immense harm by suggesting situations like his own are personal moral failings and not larger systemic failures. And rather than using this as a moment to call for positive awareness of those problems, he's doubling down to maintain his brand. These toxic ideas need to be discredited and yes, humiliated. Even Peterson himself talks about the importance of radical humiliation and then humility in affecting personal change. I say this as someone who's lost a family member to this addiction. They aren't helped by being told to man up. They're helped when they can access the care they need, when it's not a solitary struggle from being stigmatized, and when we start to get irresponsible profit-motivated scrip pushing out of the picture. JP has fought against every one of those solutions. I have immense sympathy for JP, his family and anyone in their situation. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But in this weird deflection, he's still hurting people.

@GirlWithnail

4 жыл бұрын

Sure thing man. That totally excuses their immature behavior. Anyway, not that they are in any danger of being taken seriously. They are only making themselves look the twat. So no complaints my side.

@DeanStrickson

4 жыл бұрын

Right? To me, this is no different than smoker Rush Limbaugh getting lung cancer after telling people for years that smoking doesn’t cause lung cancer. These loathsome con men made their deathbeds and now they have to forever sleep in them.

@thebible4484

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but jorp sucks

@shaamirhaneef

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan has never made an argument against medical intervention, he is in fact very much in support of it, cuz he realizes the inherent chaos in people and the need for other ways. He also really hasn't talked about the Healthcare system.

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. And I’m so sorry for your loss.

First time viewer, last time viewer. If you’re going to make attempt at comedy at other peoples expense, don’t follow it with we really care and he really does have a problem and people should not make lite... bla bla bla. If you don’t have substance, don’t roll the camera.

@michaelbrown5828

4 жыл бұрын

The rate at which they spoke and all of the verbal pauses made it very difficult to get through this video.

As A person that has had a paradoxical reaction to a medication I would ask you guys to accept that is a real thing and research it...

All those who are saying they are making fun of jbp didn't really watch the whole video

@thatbadhuh

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment!!

@DJ-xs9lh

4 жыл бұрын

I watched the whole video and they said some very crude, insensitive things about Peterson that were totally uncalled for.

@thejicaman5329

4 жыл бұрын

@@DJ-xs9lh what, light jabs at his character? I believe the video was entirely fair. What comments were uncalled for

@Vdji5889gjh

4 жыл бұрын

@@DJ-xs9lhFeeling offended??😂😂😂Need a safe space!??😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@DJ-xs9lh

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vdji5889gjh As a Doctor of Psychology who has dealt with addiction issues in clients and the pain that families experience, and as someone who has severe physical disabilities myself, yah, I find this discussion deeply insensitive and offensive. You obviously haven't dealt with family with addiction issues or these kinds of neurological issues to have compassion for humanity. So no, I don't need a "safe space". I'm simply pointing out the nastiness of this level of insensitivity.

When you forget to make your bed one time, this is what happens

Nothing like laughing as a daughter talks about her gravely I’ll father. Stay classy, Brooks.

@Matt-iy4tn

4 жыл бұрын

honjok if you’re a bigoted fuck expect people to laugh when misfortune befalls you.

How are these people still allowed to have platform. Disgusting

@emirozdemir2037

4 жыл бұрын

free speech... marketplace of ideas..

Why didn’t he just clean up his room?

@rxbenzo3302

4 жыл бұрын

Idk seems easy enough

So the guy that was telling you to be a straight-laced Joe turns out to be another junkie...oh the irony

Poor taste to say the least. The laughter in the background when Peterson's daughter mentions her mother's terminal cancer and her dad's convalescent state... 4:15 6:23 11:01

@AwesometownUSA

4 жыл бұрын

whistler8 Did you watch the whole thing, and listen to the points they were making (especially from 9:21 on)? It’s not “just laughing at suffering” - although I can see getting that impression if you just watched the first couple minutes and then scrolled down to read all the comments from other people who watched the first couple minutes and then scrolled down to read all the comments from other people who watched the first couple minutes and then scrolled down to read all the comments from other people who ...

I don’t know enough about him to hate him but it doesn’t seem like something worthy of mockery.

@Jaredthedude1

4 жыл бұрын

His message put the onus of failure on individuals rather than society. Now he has failed and is trying to make excuses.

@mitchellhughes5180

4 жыл бұрын

Meat Grinder Mike Nice try. I’m already there.😏

Benzo addiction was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced. I lost 2 year of my life barely remember any of it I drove away my girlfriend who I loved and withdrawal was insanely horrific but I’m doing better now

@MG-sn3fk

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry dude, I hope you're doing better and continue too:(

@Zeldarw104

4 жыл бұрын

Good for you stay healthy.💯

@hopespringseternal8069

4 жыл бұрын

I know what you went through I had a similar experience...good luck to you!

@Simbu.

4 жыл бұрын

How did it work? It wears off day by day? Sorry, I don't know how it manifests

@elsagrace3893

4 жыл бұрын

SM it’s not a big deal if you are comfortable being uncomfortable for 2 weeks. Kinda feels like the worst PMS first week. Bitchy, cranky, don’t sleep well. If you are mature and have a great balance between thought and feeling and understand which controls the other it’s not a big deal.

JP should read "12 Rules For Life". Could be a game changer for him.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hear it's a bit common sensy but hey, some people are a lil slower and this is for them : )

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

@MJ L You must be thinking of 12 step programs. I doubt vacuous nonsense will help this man deal with his addiction, it’s more likely to result in him tapping out when his family needs him most and force his young daughter to do her best in preserving the family image while caring for her two sick parents. Rules for life? Pathetic. So Ironic you couldn’t write it in a book because it would be too unbelievable. Worst of all, there’s all these clowns so emotionally dependent on this man’s role in validating their world view that instead of outrage over wasting time and money on his disingenuous book... they - JP FANS for freakin sake - are instead up and down this comment section expressing their butt-hurt moral outrage! It’s too poetic... it’s too pathetic...it can’t be real, can it!?there can’t really be so many that are so weak minded can there!?

"I advocate an all dough diet. Give me money"- Michaela Pizzarson.

Way to kick a man whilst he’s down.

@zerazara

4 жыл бұрын

@joe buffalo Even though you do not like Peterson, he never to my recollection ever kicked someone whilst down or told people to do it. His message mostly been fair and mature. Not like these guys making funny voices like bullies in kindegarten.

@paulthepainter2366

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't die. And worse, he didn't learn anything. If he were to udder 3 words I'd feel a little for him whilst he's getting kicked while he's down. But he's still not down enough imagine how the boot feels on his neck. He still doesn't understand that bad cops (I know personally) take his word as gospel, drink, drop n bombs, and drive, and throw people in jail for weed. Black Lives Matter

@zerazara

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulthepainter2366 Just because you write your own derangements in a poetic style, does not make it anymore true. I think it is good for you that you believe in something with such great passion. However... "You should check yourself before you wreck yourself". Look im being poetic too.

@througheverything

4 жыл бұрын

Paul The Painter I don’t even agree with all of what Jordan Peterson says. But he’s a polite and well mannered man, who acts with courtesy to everyone. He should never be picked on in his darkest times like this, he should be supported. It’s actually sickening to watch this video.

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that what a lobster would do? 🤔

Man it’s been peaceful without Kermit the frog.

The benzos clearly got to the top of the dominance heirarchy

@DokisKalin1

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@linushven4892

3 жыл бұрын

Thats not how its spelled

Oh no guys. This is low.

I dont even like Jordan Peterson and I welcome criticism of him but laughing at him while he's going through this is just too far

@formalbug5716

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. He helped preserve toxic properties of masculinity by giving incels a rallying point.

@emmashalliker6862

4 жыл бұрын

Quit your crying and bare your suffering. (while high as fuck).

Maybe some problems can’t just be solved by standing up straight and cleaning your room after all. Maybe sometimes well meaning people who are doing their best just really need some help sometimes. Get well soon Jordan. Bernie 2020

@GaryParris

4 жыл бұрын

absolutely :O)

@xboxfullauto1000

4 жыл бұрын

Cleaning your room was a stepping stone for people who were at the bottom of their lives. It's supposed to be a start to their journey of personal responsibility and to essentially just get their life back in order. But it's okay, keep taking people out of context and insulting people that are suffering. A very kind and respectful thing to do =D

@GaryParris

4 жыл бұрын

@@xboxfullauto1000 yes, of course, Jordan Peterson is all about context isn't he ;o) You don't know me, yes I am pretty kind and respectful to people, especially to people Peterson likes to disenfranchise with his out of context half-truths! but don't let that stop you from ignoring those little known manipulations of facts and data. Peterson cries as do his acolytes that he's so misunderstood and taken out of context; rubbish, he infers and obfuscates to trick people into believing he is knowledgeable about stuff once they're hooked on his simplistic psychology and like clockwork you did the same. Do you ever admit to anyone how out of context much of his misinformation is when it suits him? erm No sorry, he doesn't get a free pass when he has completely in context done nothing to take his own advice and manipulate the situation to make out its not his own fault, in the way he tells others it is!

@TonyMishima92

4 жыл бұрын

@@GaryParris Please mention a time when Peterson ever said that all problems can be solved by standing straight and cleaning your room.

@GaryParris

4 жыл бұрын

@@TonyMishima92 sure, if you can pinpoint when Jordan Peterson gave his position on anything without inferring a falsehood but then said he's taken out of context when he's called out on it.

Wow! I didn't know alpha men like Peterson go through anxiety issues.

@primeDecomposition

4 жыл бұрын

This is sarcasm ...I think, I really hope so. If that pencil neck whiney dweeb is an alpha male, then I’m King Kong lol.

@iriear

4 жыл бұрын

@@primeDecomposition Just say I was convinced by Peterson's band of alpha male followers. So I'm happy to take you as King Kong, if only for contrast.

I generally like what you guys have to say. But I think you guys are overlooking something. As someone who's battles drug addiction for most of my life I can speak to getting sober. There's an overwhelming amount of shame and embarrassment when you finally take that step to get sober, then imagine mixing that with adverse reactions and increased anxiety. from my perspective it doesn't seem farfetched to think " I wanna make a statement to let people know what's going on, but I'm too embarrassed to show my face." Drug addiction really does affect almost everything about a person, including changes in confidence and perspective on reality. Other than that I've no idea, it does seem like a really weird set of events as well.

@caseyw.6550

4 жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying. But as former addict, don't you sniff deflection and dishonesty all over this? I do. They are basically trying to say he isn't like the rest of us junkies. To not call an addict out on their bullshit is enabling. And this reeks of bullshit. He went to russia to do a medically induced rapid detox because he wanted to take the easy way out. He wanted to go to sleep for a few days and wake up sober. That's why he had to go to russia. That's likely why he is doing so poorly right now....there is a reason he had to go to russia for it. Its dangerous!

@theMJL

4 жыл бұрын

no sympathy for con artists. unless youre also a con artist, youre comparing apples and oranges.

@slappycult91

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. I totally see the bullshit they're both spitting. I'm just saying that there are other factors that are possible and we dont know with 100% certainty what's going on because we weren't there. Things all too often seem a specific way and dont represent whats really going on. Just saying we should always keep our minds open to possibilities.

But one of Peterson's 12 rules was 'Set your house in perfect order before criticizing the world'.... Hmmmm

Surprised anyone's bothered about this vid tbh. It's more mocking Peterson s hypocrisy than anything else. You know, 'your troubles in life are your own fault and you should clean your room and sort yourself out, but mine are serious and I need to be medically treated for months on end.' Its pretty hard not to find that somewhat ridiculous and to an extent, funny in a darkly comic way.

@BrentWalker999

4 жыл бұрын

He did also at one point said you just need God to beat addiction.. Well. Get God Jordan;)

@boneboy711

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrentWalker999 Russia seems to be him god now.

@teethgrinder83

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly-and this is coming from an ex benzo addict myself. It really is a hard addiction, takes months to recover from and the seizures it gave me dislocated my shoulder about 20 times but because of Petersons hypocrisy I can't say I've much sympathy at all for the guy. Maybe a sliver because I know how bad it feels but then I keep reminding myself about some of the "advise" he's given others

I can’t believe he’s unwell. Just from eating nothing but undercooked beef for months. It’s bizarre. Guess we’ll never know.

@HarryS77

4 жыл бұрын

I suspect Zizek spiked JP's water with trace amounts of cider.

@ScarButta

4 жыл бұрын

He's wife has terminal cancer and he went into depression.

@rahmadrenaldi2624

4 жыл бұрын

Wait, he eat undercooked beef ? I thought he eat it raw. He could get scurvy from lack of vitamin c.

@kchiatt2520

4 жыл бұрын

Could you imagine trying to take a dump, after only eating meat for weeks?

So he's suffering from the gay crack smoking conservative paradox and he won't own it.🙄 Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.

What a nasty speculative take on a families difficult struggles. You should learn to leave politics out of the health and well being of someones family.

@futurestoryteller

4 жыл бұрын

Because healthcare isn't a political issue... oh wait!

@austinbarnes3764

4 жыл бұрын

@@futurestoryteller Yes, please compare insulting and degrading a woman who's father is battling drug problems and mother is dying of terminal cancer with debating your political ideology of the healthcare system. The guy was mocking her voice when her mother and father are dying...just gross.

@futurestoryteller

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure all this righteous indignation of yours is easily found when Peterson pulls his BS.

@austinbarnes3764

4 жыл бұрын

@@futurestoryteller I think some of what he says is BS too. Making fun of him and his daughter under these circumstances is gross though.

@LisaBeergutHolst

4 жыл бұрын

@@austinbarnes3764 Peterson's daughter makes money from the blog where she talks about her family. Both she and dad put themselves up for public scrutiny, deal with it lol

If it were anyone else I would feel bad for him. However, Peterson has snubbed the scientific consensus of psychology in matters such as addiction, depression, gender dysphoria, etc. to push his political views via his target audience of vulnerable young men who he turned into agents of harm onto others he dislikes as well as themselves instead of helping them, betraying his obligations as a psychologist. As a result, he is guilty of ruining thousands, if not more, lives. So no, not only do I feel sorry for him but this is justice and I rejoice that it came in a form that exposes his teachings as harmful nonsense as well as his blatant hypocrisy.

@rogozov

4 жыл бұрын

@fl00fydragon Agree. I could add more examples of the pain and hate he’s knowingly perpetuated. The irony is almost too much. Almost anyone else, almost anyone, and I too would feel bad. Not him though. Not for a second.

@newbooksmell4163

4 жыл бұрын

What lives are you talking about?? I'm a depressed ass lesbian and I got through my last year semester because of his lectures! I haven't seen a single trace of his "political views" in his teachings in all of the lectures I've watched and I really don't know what hypocrisy you're talking about. His video on depression actually got me to go see a psychologist and gave me the courage to try antidepressants. So I REALLY want to know the "thousands, if not more, lives" that he is guilty of ruining. I REALLY do want to know.

Jordan Peterson same guy who believes he had a psychotic break from a piece of broccoli. Let's believe his overly elaborate story about Russian Benzo rehab.

@DrWeird-zw5dc

4 жыл бұрын

For real? Broccoli?? LOL I heard him say that a glass of apple cider wiped him out for a month LOL

I pity you people ! I think you are immature and are acting very jealous,cruel and evil! May more mercy be shown to you when your time of suffering comes then what you three have shown here! I am disgusted by this horrible display!

The worst kinds of people on the planet are people that kick others laying on the ground.

@zerazara

4 жыл бұрын

@ Even if that were true, are you trying to somehow justify doing something like that to someone?