What's Difference Between 5A Cable and 3A Cable (PD Protocol)
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Introduction
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From 5W to 240W, we find the charging speed of electronic devices is faster and faster. But it's not easy for us to get the proper cable.
Even though the appearance looks similar, the performance is completely different.
For example, the charging cable can be divided into 5A (100W) and 3A (60W).
So, today, we gonna talk about what's the difference between them.
Chapter
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0:00 Intro
1:20 3A cable
1:44 5A cable
2:31 Q&A
4:14 Summary
Correction: 3:22 voltage drop, not pressure drop.
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Hey I know this won't likely be seen by you, but you've been doing an incredible job with this channel and I thank you for your hard work going over these chargers and power standards!
I bought a cheap 2M 5A PD usb-c cable and the manufacturer cheated and put a 5A emark chip in a thinner 3A cable and devices attempt to charge over 3A but fail due to the electrical properties of the cable being wrong. I left a review of the cable on Amazon alerting people to the fraud and Amazon deleted my review a few weeks after I posted it saying I was mistaken and the manufacturer was honest. I tested the cable with a cable tester it doesn't lie but Amazon doesn't care! I promptly cancelled my prime membership in response.
@mikewolf5367
2 ай бұрын
A general rule of thumb is always be careful when buying cheap cables off Amazon. You can wind up frying your electronics that way. Personally I only buy first party like from Apple. Yeah it might be more expensive but the peace of mind is worth it.
@user-nj2uu1tb8j
Ай бұрын
You really showed Amazon huh.
Another great educational video ChargerLab and thanks. Great info about the amperage of the E-marker chip. However, it’s sad that a lot of producers of charging cables don’t put the specifications on their product labels so we are unable to determine the real life charging wattage unless we buy the cable and also a USB measuring device like that sold by your company. Higher price cables don’t necessarily guaranteed faster charging time or higher charging wattage. And we cannot cut our cables too. In the end, we can only get an assurance if we buy cables of any sort from reputable manufacturers. Or to keep following your fantastic video tear downs of chargers and cables ……. Keep up the good work …. Thumbs up 👍🏼
Great stuff. Thank you for being clear AND quick.
THIS is the video I was looking for!
Your video really helped me figure it out which cable I should buy. Thank you so much.
@ChargerLAB
Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
Some devices using the Usb-c connector but not the PD protocol will not charge with a cable containing an e-marker chip as there is no voltage on the cable before the initial 5v negotiation. Vape pens are great examples of these, as these small devices rarely have spare room for PD circuitry.
Very very helpful information, thank you so much
very informative, you have a great content thank you!
Can you please make a video explaining why some cheap devices with USB-C can only be charged via USB-A to USB-C cable, but not USB-C to USB-C cable? Now i have two of these (hair trimmer and helmet intercom) and i guess device manufacturer didn't include a chip that does PD negotiation, but would be interested in a more in-depth review of this issue. Thanks!
Thanks for very useful informations 😘
"larger pressure drop" "Voltage", surely.
@ChargerLAB
2 жыл бұрын
My bad. We'll correct that later.
Excellent !
good one thanks.
Info I needed, what is best cable for data transfer.
What about 6A and 10A cable ? Like OnePlus iqoo cables. Whats the difference between these . And why most after market type c cable limits at 5A . I have tried my OnePlus device it charges at 5A only with 100w after market cable . But with OnePlus cable it charges upto 8A.
Thank you
One interesting thing is noticed between my 5A and 3A cables is that my phone (mi11ultra) with mi65watt gan charger doesn't charge with more than 27 watts so 8-9v 3A but with a 5A cable it goes to 45 watts so 9V 5A which makes sense but I wanted to point out that not all devices uses that 20V and are more limited but can benefit from higher amperage
@aaast2549
Жыл бұрын
Bro i use 67w charger with my mi11t the phone can use 67w. When i charge with my 65w gan charger it says it only charge 55w why it cant charger 65w?
@arianamirgholami9555
Жыл бұрын
@@aaast2549 are you using xiaomis 65 watt charger?
@aaast2549
Жыл бұрын
@@arianamirgholami9555 yes the original one from the official store named Xiaomi 65w gan charger, even with the newer update of android with security updates it still only charge 55w from the 65w gan charger as the phone says 55w MAX charging.
@arianamirgholami9555
Жыл бұрын
@@aaast2549 It could be using 11V5A c to c didn't have an standard for more than 5 amp so without increasing voltage (which isn't possible) that's what you get
@aaast2549
Жыл бұрын
@@arianamirgholami9555 I'm not so good at this it might be funny question but why it can just get more V or balance with lower A and higher V to get 65w as it says on charger 😂
What about the new 240 W cables? Are there any major differences between them, and the older 5 A cables, other than data in the marker chip?
I didn't realize that tester could show the data speeds the cable supported I just ordered one of those now I've been looking for something that could tell that I also wanted one that could tell the protocols too but I didn't need that one as bad as the one that could tell the speed but since it does both I'm getting it
Does thunderbolt 3 cable guaranteed to deliver 100w?
I need an urgent reply ...... I have both 45W and 65 W adapter. Both charge my Samsung S24 Ultra with Super fast charging 2.0 (5A Cable)......65 W adapter came with My Laptop Book 4 but when I charge the cable along with this adapter cannot charge my phone with 2.0 charging, that means that cable is not 5A.......So all the time I need to carry 65 W adapter and both cables with me,,,,, My question is can I replace original Laptop cable with my 5A mobile 45W adapter cable? By doing this cause any damage to my Laptop?
Thanks
Hello sir I have two types c cables. Both are bad. How to joint there wire. ? One canle have 8 wire and other one have 5 wire
Which charging cable is suitable? 240 watts or 60 watts? For iPad Pro 2022 11 inch
Awesome
What cable can I get get that is USBc to lighting that is pd like the one I your video or witch one is that. Please I would like to know so that it works with my fast charging rechargeable battery.The battery requires fast charging device to start fast charging mode.
How can we identify from the outer shape of the cable to check whether it is a 3A or 5A cable
Please make a video of UGREEN 200w 6Port Gan charger. 🙏🏼
i have a fast charger does the usb c to lightning cable matter because there is fast charging cables as well does it rlly matter compared to a normal usb c cable to lightning
Is it safe to use 5a for 3a charger?
This video was so useful 🥹. Thank you❤
Hi Charger Lab, is it safe for me to use a 3A cable to charge my laptop with a 100W charger? Will it only charge slower or will it potentially damage my laptop?
@ChargerLAB
Жыл бұрын
It will only charge slower.
@narasimhaanaidu2936
Жыл бұрын
@@ChargerLAB Thanks.😀
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
It is completely safe just charge slower Because usb-c pd can regulate voltage and ampere based on receptor as shown in the video
Wow!
Is there any problem using a 5A cable on my phone charger that says it is limited to 3A? I have a 5A cable laying around and I lost the 3A cable that came with the charger.
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
No, it is completely safe
Are there USB A 3A cables and USB A 5A cables?
Wait but i have a 6A cable at my phone only supports 15 watts of charging (Samsung Galaxy A50s), will this cable affect my phone in some way
Can I charge my smartphone with a basic 100w charger aka Ugreen or Baseus? Despite original charger which is only 20W?
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
Definitely yes and it is so safe no matter 100w 200w adaptor or future 1kw 😂 because usb-c pd can automatically regulate voltage and ampere and it's based on your device (receptor) as shown in the video usb-c can regulate voltage from 5v-20v and 3A/5A and more... Based on USB-c version or pps
240w cable vs 5 and 3 amp video 😀
Amazing video. So a normal USBC cable of any kind really will give me 60W which will charge all but my laptop, even as a videographer. USB is great but their design and marketing team need to be fired as its so confusing!
I have a 2 meter cable that claims 100w 5A. Does that mean it's lying? I can charge my laptop fine with it (65W charger) it does not complain about slow charging. Also, my Mi10T Pro does not always go to "mi turbo charge" 33W with it, sometimes it says "quick charging" and it goes to 18W. Could that be because of a dirty port or the cable?
@antonsrandomstuff
2 жыл бұрын
Apple standard charging cable for Macbooks is 5A 2 meters. But it is noticeably thicker than other cables (twice thicker than lightning cable).
@ChargerLAB
2 жыл бұрын
We can still buy 5A cables over 2m, but that will be expensive. Therefore, most manufacturers will make it within 1m (cost-effective option)
@dragosmoldovan990
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChargerLAB that is what worries me, it was no expensive. It was around 6eur, branded Baseus
@plasticdope
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosmoldovan990 in my experience Baseus is pretty good, just they (and many other Chinese brands) prefer to set their cables/chargers compatible with Apple products at first priority. You can find a $6 3m 100W cable from st like Essager, which works perfectly with a Macbook, but struggling to communicate with a Surface laptop. Cheap does not mean bad, just need to be suitable, and Apple :v
@n.shiina8798
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragosmoldovan990 i bought McDodo CA-713 years ago and it was priced around 6EUR too. i use it to charge my laptop with no problem but it's only 65W. didn't have chance to try to pull 5A yet but your problem could be coming from the E-Marker chip. i don't have similar problem but the cable i bought can only be used as USB2.0 everytime i did USB tethering to my phone while the non-E marked cable could. your phone uses non-standard charging protocol so the chip could be problematic
Is a 5A cable ok with the charger for my Steam Deck, since the Deck is 15v/3A?
@ChargerLAB
Жыл бұрын
It's ok.
@MrsBlaileen1
Жыл бұрын
@@ChargerLAB Thanks…
does all 5a 100w type c cable support PD pps?
@TheAdamAdy
6 ай бұрын
I think charger has to support PPS, not the cable
So using 3a wired charger enough to max my 33watt adapter
@sebasjssa2002
10 ай бұрын
Si
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
@@sebasjssa2002yes
What is best for qualcomm quick charge 3.0 cable 18watt charger support please reply
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
The QC is max at 9v 2A so u can use whatever cable, because standard usb-a usb-c is 2.4A 3A 5A or more
can I use 5A 100W data cable on my redmi note 10 pro for copying files on a computer?
@ChargerLAB
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but most 100W cable is not designed for data transmission. So, the copying file speed will be pretty slow.
@disguisedporo1300
Жыл бұрын
@@ChargerLAB what can you recommend sir?
@tiiiooooooo
Жыл бұрын
@@disguisedporo1300 usb 4 cable with 40gbps
please I need help. I have a Xiaomi note 11 pro and lost my original charger I want to buy a new charger 120w clan I do that? other brand than Xiaomi? is it only the cable that has this chip? so if I get a Anker 140w charger do I need a Xiaomi cable for it to work? or what do I look gor?
@ChargerLAB
Ай бұрын
Basically, you need to purchase an official Xiaomi charger in order to get the best charging performance.
What is best in life , Conan ?
you missed the USB 4 240W
👍
I think they should rate the wires based on Watt & not current. Watt would be less confusing
@plasticdope
2 жыл бұрын
60W : 3A max, 100W: 5A
@ChargerLAB
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's what the USB-IF is prepare to do: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2iLs5iNdKmzdpM.html
@n.shiina8798
2 жыл бұрын
using wattage could be problematic to devices that uses high current. let's say a 3A cable labelled as 60W, a 60W device that uses 15V would overload the cable since the max. current is 4A. if you look up on AWG table, there's no power rating but current.
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
Nope, Rated wire based on Current is good, if rated on power (W) would be confusing, the thing is the maximum output voltage of USB-C is 20V
Is pd, pps, pdo intercompatible ?
@mahditurki8600
8 ай бұрын
pd 3.0 include pps
@TheAdamAdy
6 ай бұрын
@@mahditurki8600 Not always. PPS is optional in PD 3.0/PD 3.1
Does macbook pro usb c cable offers 5a or 3a?
@ChargerLAB
Жыл бұрын
5A
@WasfyRahman
Жыл бұрын
@@ChargerLAB but with the macbook type c to type c cable my s22 plus using 45w samsung charger showing super fast charging instead of super fast changing 2.0. Its shows the same with 25w charger 😔
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
@@WasfyRahmando u use the original samsung 45w? If third-party charger need to has pps support, if it's still the same, it would be there's a secret pin in samsung 5A that must be required
What is best for 18w chager 😃
@sebasjssa2002
10 ай бұрын
3a, el 5a no es necesario
@user-sq2uh3cd4p
8 ай бұрын
You can use Whatever cable, the standard nowadays cable is 2.4A 3A 5A or more, The QC protocol is max 18w 9v 2A or if not QC protocol but 18w proprietary fast charger won't require cable more than 3A
Can't wait for the 80gbs 240w cables to come and become common
about two million microamps
Better not tell the EU who mandated USB-C ports this, it’ll blow their minds.
One is 5 ampère, the other isa 3 ampère. Mic drop.
What's with the poofy gloves?
@Thatoneguywhosucksatlife.
Ай бұрын
Identity protection
How much watt can usb type c 2A cable transfer?