There was actually a passenger on the Lusitania, Isaac Lehman, who tried to get into the port side lifeboats, but he was stopped by a sailor, who said the captain told him not to launch lifeboats on the port side. It was too dangerous. However Lehman flew into a rage and pointed a pistol directly in the sailor’s face, saying to launch the boat or be shot. The boat was launched, but crashed in the water killing most people. Rumors spread that when Lehman got back to shore, he was labeled by angry people as a “Cowardly Menace.”

@Downedaccount

Жыл бұрын

Oooh I didn't know that!

@bouncingshot

Жыл бұрын

I mean, maybe the people in that lifeboat who died would have died anyway I guess... but it was kind of a stupid thing to do

@MarineAqua45

Жыл бұрын

He’s lucky the British didn’t shoot him dead,as that was a death sentence:in those days.

@italkedtobarzini4015

Жыл бұрын

Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.

@jaredchampagne2752

Жыл бұрын

@@italkedtobarzini4015WHAT?????

One Titanic history I've read-- I believe it was "Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy" by Eaton and Haas, but I'm not 100% sure of it-- includes as an appendix the records of the ship that went out to collect bodies after the sinking. The records list the personal effects found on each body recovered. I recall being very surprised by how many of the passenger bodies recovered had guns. It seemed like many, perhaps even most, of the men passengers were carrying guns. The really surprising thing about this is that these were personal effects found on *bodies.* Meaning that these were passengers who, facing their own deaths, and carrying guns, never used them as a means of forcing their way onto a lifeboat. I'm not entirely sure what to make of that, but I suppose it goes back to the same honor-based culture that led a lot of men that night to see it as the proper thing to go down "like gentlemen" even if a space on a boat was available. I would certainly like to see more history done on the question.

@oriontaylor

Жыл бұрын

It was actually rather common for people of all walks of life to carry handguns at the time - just look into the voluminous market of so-called ‘pocket’ guns of the period, to include revolvers, newer semi-automatics, and some hangers on of the old derringer and weirder styles. Concealed carrying for personal defence isn’t just a modern American custom, but was once more international as well.

@andrewdriver3318

Жыл бұрын

@@oriontaylor Concealed carry was actually more common then than now (per capita). Fewer restrictions, less politics attached, and greater demonstrable need (homicide and violence has decreased drastically in the Western World since WW2). While concealed carry and firearms culture now is veiwed as a distinctly US thing it is really a case of the US simply continuing to do what everyone did while the rest of the world changed.

@florinivan6907

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdriver3318 Murder rates in Europe outside of the Med region were already very low by 1900. The UK has been a nonviolent place for well over 200 years. Its just that firearms were still very common. The real thing that changed attitudes towards guns were the two world wars. A realisation that guns can and will be used in partisan activities made governments increasingly paranoid about the average person. During the two world wars guns proliferated all over the place not just pistols but everything all the way to artillery got in the hands of regular folk. Circa 1946 you could spit in any direction and odds were you would find a gun. This lead to a long term fear of internal subversion. Governments realised that too many guns especially in the hands of politically unreliable persons were a problem. So anytime a violent incident took place governments sought ways to restrict even further firearms ownership. Ironically circa 1980 there were probably more guns in Europe than in 1900. But most of these were in government warehouses awaiting use for a possible WW3. It was the two big wars that changed everything. Before the wars guns were an individual matter. But after the wars they were a political matter. Guns were and could be used by individuals for political gains. That's how WW1 started with a guy with a gun. A regular guy. Governments didn't like the fact that world wars could be started by one guy with a gun. A regular guy who no one knew about. I know that in reality it was a government conspiracy in Sarajevo supported by others but the actual trigger puller was a nobody. Governments got the message. People with guns can start wars and revolutions. They're a menace.

@iamgeobomb5969

Жыл бұрын

People carried guns a lot more than now. People mostly had guns to defend themselves against people, not to be selfish and force an officer to let them into a lifeboat.

@luisvelez1952

Жыл бұрын

@@florinivan6907that’s because the 2 amendment doesn’t exist in Britain that’s why gun deaths are very small.

It’s amazing that there was a time when the UK was pretty gun friendly not too long ago

@McNab1986

Жыл бұрын

We wised up to how stupid it is to give the average person firearms

@simmysommy

Жыл бұрын

@@McNab1986 yeah, now everyone gets stabbed it's a lot quieter and convenient not being able to shoot back

@McNab1986

Жыл бұрын

@@simmysommy lol dramatic much

@gabemissouri

Жыл бұрын

​@@McNab1986 Idk man, seems kinda tyrannical to me 🤷‍♂️🇺🇲

@McNab1986

Жыл бұрын

@@gabemissouri Seems like common sense to me, Tis why you have more school shootings in a month than the rest of us in decades, why more have been killed in the last 3 years by fellow USian's via a gun than you've lost as casualties in armed conflicts abroad since vietnam. No other place wants that, because it's stupid and evidentially y'all can't control yourself with firearms.

Note: much later in lightollers life he said that there was a suicide that happend that night. I believe it was either the Chief, 1st Officer (could have been the 6th but it is not known if moody had his own firearm)

@marccru

Жыл бұрын

I heard this a long time ago and never saw it mentioned again. Then his daughter came out and said something after he died. Is any of that verified? That’s pretty damning. They where very good friends. I think he may have told if it was Wylde or Moodey

@MM-ig1iv

Жыл бұрын

Is it still suicide if you know for sure your seconds away from certain death? I guess technically it is. But in God's eyes would he forgive a person for such a desperate act. Out of simple fear of freezing and or drowning. Say you can't swim? It's an awful thing. And we know some of them.. instead of panicking, Died like gentleman.

I wonder when Lowe went and got his own gun? If he didn’t go and get it the same time the more senior officers went to Murdochs room to get the issued firearms. I wonder if Cpt. Smith, intending to go down with the ship, passed his gun onto the next senior officer he saw which was Lowe

The father that kidnapped the two kids even had a gun as well, when his body was recovered by the CS Mackay-Bennett and the crew did autopsy on him, they did found a revolver in his pocket.

William Murdock gets viewed too harshly in mainstream media. I don't think he shot anyone on the ship and I definitely don't think he commited suicide. He helped lower the lifeboats and save as many people as possible till the very end

@jaguar4u2012

Жыл бұрын

those two things dont contradict each other! Lightoller was a scumbag, barely saved anyone and yet he did not commited suicide! so whats your point?

@oliversherman2414

Жыл бұрын

@@jaguar4u2012 I'm talking about Murdock, not Lightoller

@jaguar4u2012

Жыл бұрын

@@oliversherman2414 first of all its spelled Murdoch and you failed to understand what I wrote I meant the fact Murdoch saved many people does not contradict the fact that he commited suicide! and on the other hand, lightoller was a scumbag who barely saved anyone yet somehow got to live a happy life bottom line: your argument doesnt make any sense

@danielledewitt1

Жыл бұрын

@@jaguar4u2012 Murdoch didn’t commit suicide.

@jaguar4u2012

Жыл бұрын

@@danielledewitt1 says you! and who the hell are you?! an absolute No Body

Hey Sam, Good show, as always. I'm not wild about the Cameron movie's treatment of Murdoch either. I saw a BBC video on YT today about the new, extensive digital scan recently undertaken of Titanic. The comments section, I must say, was an absolute mess. It was riddled with utter balderdash, the "Ol' Switch-o Change-o" conspiracy being the most popular. I actually responded to one with a recommendation for the person to watch your video dismantling that bit of nonsense... It's distressing how much garbage people believe about Titanic. If course, you know better than I about that! Thanks for all your great work.

I remember when this channel first started, it's really come a long way and brought many more people into the story and history of the Titanic. Greatly appreciated

Another good video, Sam; this was an interesting watch and I think the lack of restrictions and security onboard (involving guns) were surprising. This was very well-researched. 🙂

I don't believe that Murdoch shot himself or anyone else. None of the bodies found had gunshot wounds at all. The only passenger I know who had a gun was Louis Hoffman. An interesting story. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@donnix1192

Жыл бұрын

Murdoch was a great man , he ordered my great grandfather and 6 other crewmen onto a lifeboat that only had 5 passengers, the Duff Gordons among them, because other passengers on the starboard side refused to board lifeboats because they did not believe the ship was in danger. Instead of lowering it with 5, Officer Murdoch had the crewmen board it saving their lives as well. Murdoch is a hero in my eyes.

@clairefunnell8481

Жыл бұрын

@@donnix1192 agreed. He was.

That is interesting. But there's something that I was wondering about during the video- were any of the Titanic's 4 official guns ever found and/or recovered? I'm not surprised that the ship had them, mutiny and keeping order are two reasons, but there is another, pirates. I know it seems odd, but it was a possibility, even in 1912.

4:13 I don’t know why, but that is an incredibly fascinating picture, and I could stare at it all day long. I would give up everything to just be a fly on the wall in some of these crazy historic times, just to see what is was like would endlessly fascinate me!!

Really interesting video once again, thank you Sam. Have you seen there are some new images of the Titanic that have been taken recently?

Hey Sam I just wanted to say I really enjoy your videos and I have been watching them for two years now. I have learned so much from you and I really appreciate what you do.

Lightoller had mentioned how the weight of the heavy gun in his pocket was weighing him down and he threw it away. If a gun is ever retrieved from the sea floor, that would be one of the most incredible objects to be ever recovered from the Titanic wreck site, one that played a role on the night of the sinking. The binoculars used by the officers on the bridge would also be an interesting object, so would be the bell rung by the crows nest and the megaphone used by Captain Smith.

Lowe’s pistol is a bit of an open mystery, unless and until it turns up with provenance. He referred to in his inquiry testimony as his Browning, which means it could have been an FN Model 1900 (or less likely an M1903; the M1910 had not actually made it to the commercial market in the spring of 1912). By division of the market and John Browning’s patents between Colt and Fabrique Nationale, Colt had access to the U.S. and Britain while FN had continental Europe, which opens up the possibility Lowe purchased a Colt M1903 Pocket Hammerless (the M1908 seems less likely, since .380 was not a particularly popular cartridge in Britain). I don’t recall if he ever mentioned how long he’d had it prior to April 1912, since he was new to the North Atlantic run (previously being the African and Australian runs). However, ‘Browning’ had also become something of a colloquial term like Kleenex or Hoover that just meant semi-automatic pistol, which unfortunately could leave the guesses wide open. It may even have been one of the Model 1905 .32 Webley & Scott automatics by that measure. I’d put an FN M1900 as most likely, a Colt M1903 just below that, with all the other commercial 7.65mm/.32ACP pocket automatics in descending order below that. Has anyone ever seen any documentation as to which Mark of the Webley .455 revolver that White Star purchased for shipboard use?

@yongonn7966

9 ай бұрын

From what i read somewhere, it was either the webley mk 1 or 2

@reganhoskin6613

8 ай бұрын

It would have been a mark 4 webley as they were the go to revolver of the time.

Thanks for your research and summary of this interesting topic! I'm especially intrigued by this additional impact from the last minute shuffling of officers, in addition to the lost access to the lookout binoculars. Are you aware of any other issues caused by this change? That might make for a good video. Re: gun usage, the other example I've read is that Fifth Officer Lowe used his gun again to fire shots into the water as he approached swamped/sinking Collapsible A, either to alert them that he was coming alongside or to warn survivors in that boat not to swamp his Lifeboat 14 or Collapsible D which he was towing. He then helped those passengers who were still alive in Collapsible A into 14 and D before continuing on to Carpathia. Speaking of which -- I haven't seen a lot of discussions about what it was like for survivors to actually get from the lifeboats to Carpathia. What little I've seen indicates it was something of its own ordeal, esp for the women and children. That might also be an interesting future topic...

Love your videos as always Sam, keep up the great work, looking forward to the Queen Mary timeline series.

Officer Lowe actually described his firearm as an "Browning automatic", not a revolver in the Titanic inquiries.

You forgot to mention that the Master at Arms along with the Senior Officers were allowed to use firearms.

@salland12

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and Lovejoy a valet also had a gun.🤔

@PowerRangerfan

Жыл бұрын

​@@salland12 Wasn't Lovejoy a fictional character?

@ron3557

Жыл бұрын

​@@PowerRangerfan he was

@salland12

Жыл бұрын

@@PowerRangerfan The satirical tone doesn't translate through a written message.

@italkedtobarzini4015

Жыл бұрын

Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.

Suuupeer video Sam!Hello from Romania! 👍👍

woah i need to catch up!!! new background?

This video is my favorite. Good job Sam

Sam, I took your advice and started listening to the book on KZread A Night To Remember. It is very fascinating to hear not just one account of just one person on what they were feeling that night but several accounts. I also like how he puts in after the sinking of Titanic a few survivors testimonials tell you how they changed and how life changed after that fateful night. Thank you Sam. So glad you recommended this book.

@italkedtobarzini4015

Жыл бұрын

Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.

Guns on board and crew shooting around is still quite common on budget cruises during happy hour.

Blows my mind that you uploaded this when I was thinking about the guns on titanic this Morning... Well before this uploaded!

Thanks again for the content

Great video Sam

Omg....that is so weird.. I was actually thinking of this earlier before you uploaded!! Great minds think alike! I was thinking "in the movie one dude used what I think is a colt 1911 so it would have been only a year old! Would it be commercially available. Is it a movie mistake or is it cause he's super rich and bought it" I cannot believe you uploaded this when I was thinking of this topic before hand

@kennethlarson7743

Жыл бұрын

I can answer that. At the time they werent that available but there were some in circulation but not in the stainless steel finish it wouldve only been in the blued finnish.

@MaxmadV8

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethlarson7743 thank you. This was England too. And he has a custom nickel plated and engraved with what looks like mother of pearl grips. I know the American army used it but 1912 seems too early for it to be accessible to the public and in custom models.

@donaldwantola5800

Жыл бұрын

The odds of anybody on the Titanic having a M1911 is zero, the M1911 Colt 45 was adopted by the US Army on March 29,1911, Colt did not start full scale production of the M1911 until early 1912 not many were made in 1912 and most went to the Army.

@MaxmadV8

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldwantola5800 not what I asked but okay lol

@reganhoskin6613

8 ай бұрын

Could it have been one of the older models of that pistol?

Great video 👍

David Blair was probably originally upset.. but was quite lucky

Fantastic job

Super interesting video once again! I had a question about the sinking which came to my head a few weeks ago. Would the Titanic have survived if the compartments were sealed up at the top? And if so would it have been possible and practical to do so? I know they didnt because it was really unlikely that super many compartments would open up and therefore the bow or stern not sinking down low enough to make water spill over but just thinking in theory

@michelemartin7673

Жыл бұрын

I believe I saw, in one of the many discussions of the aftermaths/impacts of Titanic's sinking, that this was incorporated into future ship designs and in retrofits of ships that were already built with these compartments. In fact, a quick check online indicates that Olympic was refitted in 1913 to incorporate, among other changes, extensions of its water tight compartments up to B deck.

Thank you Sam for another interesting video. What do you think about the full-sized scans they have done of the wreck of RMS Titanic?

Sam, watched most of your titanic videos, thanks, very interesting. I'd love if you did a video on the White Star Line company leading upto the disaster, during the disaster and what happened with the company after the disaster, not much coverage of the actual ship company around, cheers!

if i was on the titanic with a gun i would be shooting the iceberg

Interesting thanks for sharing!

cool, a new premiere video and interesting topic

Completely off topic but I was wondering when Historic travels was going to have a reaction to the new 3d scan of Titanic. Might be working on one right now..;)

I just thought of something. Maybe the guns could have been used to cut the falls from Collapsible A during the final plunge.

I love the webley revolver! It makes sense to since the webley was the common british sidearm around that time

Sam -- Great video but can you please fix that outlet cover behind you. It's very uneven :) lol

Sam!! Please make a video about the only Japanese survivor of the titanic sinking "Masabumi Hosono" and how he survived and how he was labeled a coward for doing so💔.... Love your vids man !!🙏

did you see the ABC news last night about a new way to see the titantic wreckage what is your view on this? please do a Video on that

Yay new video!

Very interesting video. 😺

I hope David Blair bought a lottery ticket. I had never heard that story

Found your channel few days ago and have been going down the rabbit hole of your content. Great stuff

Lightoller more than made up for the loss of possibly over 100 men on the Titanic with his assistance at Dunkirk in 1940

Why didn't the captain also have a gun since he was the highest in command on the ship

SAM!!! When you get a chance, check out the new digital 2022 Titanic mosaic photos. I’m blown away and shock at her condition.

ALRIGHT FINALLY I was one of the ones who suggested this video

Found this film/documentary on Titanic which I thought was nice to cover what may have occurred behind the scenes with the crew down below

There should be a Titanic Film made with quentin Tarantino directing. There would be some intense gun violence and epic shootout scenes with Dialogue that would go on forever. Samuel L Jackson could be cast as chief officer Murdock. It might not be historically accurate but it would sure be something different

I also heard rumors that maybe one of the passengers killed one of the Titanic crew members during the evacuation So the theory is one of the Titanic passengers was trying to find a way to get off the ship and he saw crowd of people trying to rush into one of the Titanic’s few remaining lifeboats and he saw a lot of crew members and some of the officers trying to guard this lifeboat from the crowd. And this passenger asks one of the crew members that was guarding the lifeboat and he asked this crew member and said, Why there a lot of people trying to get into this boat. And this crew member rudely push this passenger away from the boat into the crowd and telling him to get back. As a response to this he grabbed his gun out of his holster and shot at the crew member few times and killed him.

Was the last minute shuffling due to the coal hold fires? Many firemen were also changed.

I finished watching titanic again a couple of weeks ago. Theres a line that said titanic would have missed the berg with a bigger rudder. Is that true?

Titanic was essentially a floating city, it needed it's own little police force.

Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.

quick death vs long painful stressful death. death was only option for them, surprised there wasn't more suicides.

Very interesting vid Sam. Thanks.👍

How were or if the 3rd class passengers or 2nd even 1st if they didn't cooperate were shot or kept in 3rd class section of the Titanic?

If a suicide occurred and it wasn't murdoch, then who do you think it was?

Shark just wanted to play Marco Polo

If it's not officer Murdoch then who's Titanic officer that commits suicide?

I wonder if anyone smoked loud on the titanic

After what happened I would say David Blare was no doubt glad he was removed from the Titanic.

I've just seen a video about the gash which allowed water to flood in. This expert says the ship did have a gash BUT it happend under the ship. Not on its side. R u able to say anything about it?

I like this

No link in the description that I see

Hey Sam you left out someone who carried a gun. The chief Purser. He carried a gun and kept it in the Purser's office which was also. Make shift brig.

When the first funnel collapsed did passengers get crushed by it as it hit the water

POV someone damaged the hull by shooting the hull LOL

So, Sam, who is that individual believed by some to have committed suicide (since it is not Murdoch)-who were you referring to?

@kiltsngis7994

Жыл бұрын

I think Sam is too much of a gentleman to name names. I have heard people suggest that Henry Wilde MAY have done this, but the testimony on this is at best highly conflicting.

I wonder where the guns are now

Ismay would've reported that at the trial.

How does one obtain and verify this kind of information?

@tylerdoyle6323

Жыл бұрын

Probably along the lines of multiple people with the same story. Like with the apparent officer shooting him self they were like no it was first officer Murdoch or the sixth officer moody who did or maybe it was the chief officer Wilde. There are so many different stories on somebody shooting them self I even heard one where they said it wasn’t a crew member at all just a passenger. Same thing with the passengers being shot. Different numbers some people saying it never happened. But the one thing that stood was the warning shots that the survivors all agreed on.

That was the purpose of the gun

Where’s your discord and gaming channel

No way to know for sure what really happened there could be things that happened that we have no idea about..

Disaster situation regardless of what it is, you want a firearm

Can you.make a vid about Captain phillips

@zyloproductions4870

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. His real life story’s a lot different than the movie!

I always wondered if any of these firearms we found at the wreck site

@ravenel2

Жыл бұрын

Lightoller says he chucked his revolver from his pocket when he thought he was drowning, because it was pulling him down. It’s down there.

I believe it was Wilde who committed suicide because George Rheims stated that the officer in question gave a military salute before shooting himself. Since Wilde was in the Royal Navy Reserve and we don't have much info as to what happened to him after he told Lightoller to enter Boat D, I feel it was Wilde.

@dovetonsturdee7033

Жыл бұрын

Most Mercantile Marine officers of the time were also in the RNR. Certainly, Smith, Murdoch, and Lightoller were.

Do you know if after he forced them out the lifeboat with his gun did they feel it with woman and children?

Ak-47 would have been my choice

Fifth officer Lowe was armed with his own .45 Colt 1911 semi-automatic pistol.

Regarding the suicide reports, I think we can reasonably narrow it down to Wilde or Murdoch. Smith was a popular figure and would've been identified by the witnesses. Moody wasn't issued a firearm and there's no evidence (to my knowledge) that he ever used one. That leaves the other two. Daniel Allen Butler, in his book "Unsinkable," suggests it was Wilde. As we all know, Jim Cameron went with Murdoch. He got a ton of flak for it, but in fairness, his choice did support the story he was telling, and created a tragic arc for Murdoch as a character. It added to the film. In either case, neither of their bodies were ever found, so we'll never know for sure.

It makes you wonder what the hell James Cameron was thinking, having Murdoch shooting passengers and committing suicide. When there is no evidence that Murdoch did any of those things. It was bound to upset any of Murdochs living relatives! I know as a movie director you have to create scenes of drama for the audience, but seems like he created an avoidable rift with Murdochs family.

@lisasharf1442

Жыл бұрын

When Cameron was asked about it, he said those two events were added for dramatic effect. And yes, Murdoch’s descendants were upset about it. Cameron said that, had he taken a step back and thought about it, and how Murdoch’s family would react to it, he wouldn’t have filmed it.

@iangarner8857

Жыл бұрын

@@lisasharf1442 Yeah I don't think he meant any harm by it . I mean it is great for adding drama to the sinking scenes. But as soon as you attach a senior officers name to an unconfirmed suicide it was bound to cause an issue. It would have helped James Cameron if we had passenger testimony confirming which officer shot themselves. I can't seem to find any witness statements. Great movie though although I'm not keen on the love story. The sinking scenes are incredible though.

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The queen doesn't allow guns in the u k

@danielledewitt1

Жыл бұрын

The queen died.

why arent you at your normal stuideo

Are you going to redo all your veidos to make them better since you gained more knowledge when will you remake all your veidos

I got to relatives that died on Titanic I think I have reade some place that ther was some kind of shooting ingvald olai end konrad hagland .I think I'm older Lady reportasje som skyting afterwards, I think I'm older Lady reportasje som skyting afterwards, I think her name was Solvang or something from norway 😊

@danielledewitt1

Жыл бұрын

If they died then how did you get to them? Oh you didn’t.

@draugen2328

Жыл бұрын

@@danielledewitt1 ? bernt johannesen was with them end hi survived ,They never found the bodys of hagland,s solvang survived to she disappears after they get to land in america

@danielledewitt1

Жыл бұрын

@@draugen2328 You claimed you got to your relatives who died on titanic. How did you get to them if they died?

@draugen2328

Жыл бұрын

@@danielledewitt1 sorry 🙈 i meant i have to relatives ;p im bad in english 🙈

@danielledewitt1

Жыл бұрын

@@draugen2328 How did you get to them if they died?

Lovejoy had a gun haha

@GeorgeSukFuk

Жыл бұрын

Made of sterling silver, desert eagle

Am I the only one who would rather get shot to death instead of drowning?

Gun control in generation is a fairly new thing. It wasn't uncommon for people to have guns with them am the time in all situations and no one cared or questioned it until the 1930s and a generation aversion to carrying guns didn't really develop until the 60s.

@JonathanMoosey

Жыл бұрын

Gun control actually goes back well into after the Civil War. The first form of gun control laws were part of the black codes in the South since white southerners did not want freed blacks to be able to defend themselves from the KKK and other anti-black terrorists.

One word answer: None.

GUNS?! 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 RAH