The throwing knife and sword combo is so goofy and I love it running around with the mobility of the sword and just chucking knives is so fun

@gustof4thson896

Ай бұрын

"You may have mastered the bullet time, but I have mastered the blades"

@gustof4thson896

Ай бұрын

The only downside with that is enemy pirates can deflect the throwing knives just by blocking with the sword

@bilbotook1810

Ай бұрын

@@gustof4thson896but against double gunners, no blocking lol

@gustof4thson896

Ай бұрын

@@bilbotook1810 Im usually the common player that has a gun and a sword.

@peteandaprilbrandy2819

Ай бұрын

Throwing knives are hilariously fun, and you can use them to delay people from dropping your anchor.

Reminder: use what you have fun with! Sure, you may lose fights, but at the end of the day, it’s a game and you can play however you like. Don’t let other pirates wear you down.

I haven’t watched the vid but it’s the blunderbuss

@AntoninoChiguretto

Ай бұрын

im sure that sniper + bb

@EndlessWarV

Ай бұрын

@@AntoninoChiguretto blunder sword * blunder sniper has some skill, ppl that use blunder and sword are lazy to actually think and predict they just want you dead that why they using that combo

@ThePotoo.mp4

Ай бұрын

Blunder sword has no range so is completely useless against anyone with any ranged weapon

@Silas_Barbour

Ай бұрын

@@ThePotoo.mp4 I’m talking about blunder snipe cause sword is for losers

@Silas_Barbour

Ай бұрын

@@EndlessWarV blunder sword is ass

I think a valuable datapoint missed in the video would be: with the double barrel, the difference in time to kill if you fire once, reload the one bullet, then use a charged attack, instead of using the charged attack first, double reloading, then firing once - since the reload is longer when reloading both barrels. I'm not sure this would meaningfully change anything about its placement in the rankings of all weapons, though. Additionally, I think the conclusion that effectively nothing has changed with the meta is good for the game, old guides from before the new weapons were added are still good advice, despite lacking situational data, and returning players won't be too shaken off from what they know. Run sword and knives, become a ninja pirate as God and Anime intend.

@Drainedhero

Ай бұрын

One thing also i actually figured out tonight is if you fire the double barrel sprint it cancels the load animation for the second shot, allowing for an instant shot. There is also a very wonky yet inconsistent animation cancel for reloading both shots yet the animation for the reload only shows one. Things I’ve noticed when testing with double barrel eye of reach.

@Brayhz99

Ай бұрын

You are a very very smart man

I had no idea the pistol was THAT much faster than eye of reach I thought it was rather minimal

Genuinely get excited when you upload pls dont stop!

Great video, thank you for putting in the effort of gathering all the data!

I think the throwing knife is one of the best weapons due to its versatility as it has muiltiple uses and the stab can be a good finisher once you weaken your enemy

@JacobLukasiewicz

Ай бұрын

**laughing while sword blocking**

@knyt0

Ай бұрын

in what scenario do you get someone below 14 hp

@ullwy4926

Ай бұрын

@@knyt0 you almost always get multiple stabs in because it stuns them

@chazzerine7650

Ай бұрын

As a singular weapon it's probably the most versatile, having a place at all but long ranges. However, since you can equip two weapons it becomes less strong.

@johnvanek9514

Ай бұрын

Your... Your knife grows?? May I see it?

I like the double barrel for that one extra bullet when im fighting skeletons or phantoms

Having a table or something to show the times to kill or just having them on the screen would help a lot. It's kind of hard to follow with you just saying the numbers with no immediate comparison

The throwing knife throw or heavy attack can be used to silent board guys

I am seriously enjoying swapping between these different ones! - Blunder & Sniper - Sword & Double Barrel Pistol - Sword & either Blunder or Sniper (depending on the situation) - Blunder & Double Barrel Pistol I like the throwing knives, but they are risky to use while I am still learning them. The DB Pistol is more fun since the tuning, making the reload and charge shots feel better!

I think knife+sniper is a good mix for those that can't deside what weapon to pair with the eye of reach.

@T1ckleMyToe

24 күн бұрын

💀

Unless they already patched out the animation cancel for knife, that’s the fastest kill period, outside of a one shot. Sterling has a video up showcasing the charged attack, to instant throw.

I think it was cool for them to make the throwing knife count as a regular knife as well.

I love the video and all the stats. Now give me a chart so I can see them all arranged in order.😂 I do wish you would share a little about use case as pistol sniper is great for all ranges but requires accurate aim, while blunder sword is the most forgiving for aim but is only close range.

I loved to rock the Eye of Reach + Cutlass but i always loved Pistols too but never felt they matched the Sword but now i can go Pistol + Knife for some fun and variety!

@collinkaufman2316

Ай бұрын

Spy tf2

@vitorvena

Ай бұрын

@@collinkaufman2316 never played TF2 but i got the reference hahahaha specially fitting for the devious actions of a purate that likes to hide on people's ship

Oh no. The double shot+sword swipe reminds me of pre-nerfed Eye of Reach when everyone went Sword+EoR for the shot+swipe.

trident/keg is my go-to loadout

You should've included sprint cancelling and X cancelling reload times and ttks to see how big of a difference it makes. I'll probably try myself tbh

I haven't watched the video and I can telll you it's the blunder bass is newbie friendly they can do mistakes and still not get punished and I'm not talking for the new players that doesn't understand the shotgun mechanics if they blunder snipe you that not the ppl I'm talking about , this thing has knock back and can one shot you or leave you with 20 health difficult to miss when they can still hit your shadow and get destroyed by it just op

I am pretty accurate with the throwing knives and they are so fun but for actual PvP I prefer the blunderbuss unfortunately as it’s too efficient to pass up in my opinion.

It is important to note though that most pve enemies still die from 1 bullet from both the double barrel pistol and the normal pistol, and its. increased ammo capacity and not really reload time between the first and second shot makes it a good bet for taking out things like skeletons and phantoms. Personally, I like using the double barrel when I'm doing quests on islands, and switching to the single barrel when I encounter other crews.

so far i had several times when using the double barrel pistol where i skipped the charge animation and still shot both shots more or less consistently like 3/5 times when it skipped the animation. got no clue what does making the animation skip possible but when someone finds a way to skip it every time it could be the new tryhard double gun weapon

@knyt0

Ай бұрын

I don't know how to trigger it either but sometimes you can run while charging the knife

double barrel has been reworked !!!! lets check this out !!!

blunder sniper or pistol sniper best

not sure why the precharge for the pistol isn't being talked about. its absolutely terrible by itself, but when paired with a favored weapon of your choice, precharging+double gunning becomes much more potent. sometime in the future, there's 100% gonna be a meta-shift involved double gunning w this weapon. Maybe not a meta defining shift, but a shift nonetheless.

Additional obvious but situationally significant point - the sword and knives are capable of hitting multiple targets with a single attack so are **technically** able to deal extra damage in those incredibly rare cases

Is there a sheet with this data?

Pistol Sniper!! Lets goooo!

It's the throwing knife the shanking abilitiy is w

Honestly I agree that the DB pistol is quite underwhelming. I thing just a small buff would balance it nicely.

Pistol was aways a underrated, 50 damage are just amazing, eyes of the reach is not simple to aim always the time, pistols are almost 80% hit chances even on "jump conditions"

For pve I love to use the double barrel with the blunderbuss, but for pvp it's still the good ol' cutlass and blunderbuss combo

@spookysushi4079

Ай бұрын

what do you do when your opponent has a eye of reach

@bl0ccr4fter24

Ай бұрын

@@spookysushi4079 Nothing becouse pve enemies don't have the eye of reach, and for the cutlass blunderbuss combo I just run away and force them to come to me if they want to fight

@jonholla6463

18 күн бұрын

​@@bl0ccr4fter24like everyone seems to not understand you can't one shot me with blunder or get me with snipe if I stay out of your LOS

@bl0ccr4fter24

18 күн бұрын

Dang you guys really don't like what I use, too bad then bc I don't plan on switching soon

@spookysushi4079

18 күн бұрын

@@jonholla6463 yeah so u end up trapped under ur deck while i camp the stairs cause i outrange u

are you and blubber dropping your new podcast on the season soon?

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

I think so!

Any combination with sword is the best, due to the block, the dash and the hopping. ---->.

@spookysushi4079

Ай бұрын

no lol

@jonholla6463

18 күн бұрын

​@@spookysushi4079yes, get gud

@spookysushi4079

18 күн бұрын

@@jonholla6463 i did thats why i use two guns instead of a sword like a bot

@Hehehehaw55

9 сағат бұрын

​@@spookysushi4079 lol ur bad

Sword in flintlock feels like a good combo

@SnaxMang

Ай бұрын

That's what I want to use, but the pistols hit reg is nasty.

From my experience the best weapon is the one you can hit with.

It's unfortunate that both new weapons don't have the speed to keep up with the more surface-level and basic older weapons.

Kinda wish the double barrel pistol had both side ready to ahoot instead of one side as it kinda defeats the purpose of the second barrel by having to essentially reload by coking the second shot why not have it be two trigger pulls or hold down the trigger for both as well as making it have a longer reload so its balanced a bit but i need to know the best sails i can get as a ps5 player to be able to see bc my ass is blind rn

What is that sword spin emote at the beginning? I’ve been trying to find it

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

I believe it's the Showboater!

@ravick101288

Ай бұрын

@@AShinyRay I finally found it. Thank you so much for the help

Add a bandolier and slings. Then lemme cycle thru as many weapons as I want, up to one of each type…

does the throwing knifes stabbing break though the sword combo? does one get prioritized or do they both do dmg?

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

I didn't test this, that's something to I need to look into.

Imagine how cool this video would have been if we had another 8 or so weapons to compare with.

@jonholla6463

18 күн бұрын

What else could there be in a pirate game? Lmfao

@trathanstargazer6421

18 күн бұрын

@@jonholla6463 Rapiers and Heavy Swords can be made their own weapons, Boarding Axes, gun belt with 5 pistols, regular grenades' (we have 2 variants but not a regular), Duck's Foot (4 barreled pistol), Picks or Axes, we don't even have a proper club! We can even do two handed weapons, like larger swords or axes, how about a proper musket sense the one we got is a sniper. Let's not forget all the kinds of elemental weapons we could add like fire swords, poison daggers and so forth. Their adding a Harpoon gun so why not more quirky stuff, like a gun that fires grenades' or a large fish that has spikes and we hit people with it. There is ALOT that can be added. You just have to think.

Well, double pistol might be the worst of all the weapons, but it's hell of a fun to use, so im not gonna switch it

@bx2mikii

Ай бұрын

I really think the man reason for that is the fact that it has quite literally no strengths. Why is 2 barrels even attractive if you still have to swap to kill someone. Should have made it more of a counter to the blunder imo, bc literally nothing counters that gun, and nothing has ever. Due to the fact that nobody runs it with a melee. And it sucks that rare most likely intends to keep it like this.

@user-eb8cy9fx9f

Ай бұрын

@@bx2mikii , i agree, but it's useful against pve. + again, i just like the concept of it, so yeah, funny gun go pew-pew

@bx2mikii

Ай бұрын

@@user-eb8cy9fx9f I do agree with you, it is very useful pve, so far with my experiences, I feel that everytime I see an enemy now I have to swap off of it tho. It looks cool as hell tho. Hopefully more skins come soon.

@nikoisland6731

Ай бұрын

@@bx2mikii imo, there is a big strength to me. Im bad at aiming, and I get a quick second chance. its like pistol with training wheels

@bx2mikii

Ай бұрын

@@nikoisland6731 I really cant argue with that man. I respect it. :) Glad we all feel free to put our input.

I would love to see this data on a spreadsheet or something like that. Maybe it's on the discord?

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

I will look into getting this out in an info graphic or spread sheet!

Best loadout is sword and flintlock bc mobility, independence from amo, twohits with good aim and the short reload time of the pistol and most of all the respect you recieve, using that loadout

@HellsSacrifice

Ай бұрын

Idk if you're on console but a good PC player is gonna bop you with a sniper blunder no matter your mobility. And I've been using sword pistol for two years now and have only been told I should switch to blunder sniper, I've never had someone respect me more because I killed them with pistol sword 🤣🤣🤣 if anything sweats will shit on you more cause you're not using meta 🤣🤣

@jonholla6463

18 күн бұрын

​@@HellsSacrificeright they can stay mad then cuz I'll keep killing with sword pistol

@Atlas718

18 күн бұрын

@ananassaft95 Then wouldn't throwing knives be more fitting? They are also two hit when you throw them and their rate of fire is much better, they win when it comes to finishing the opponent fast. I've been thinking about using Cutlass + Throwing Knives for that very reason. Rate of Fire is nasty, add the mobility from cutlass and you are good to go.

@Atlas718

18 күн бұрын

@@HellsSacrifice I guess it depends on your playstyle. Cutlass can be great for those boarding plays, and dodging by holding right click, choosing a direction and pressing space has helped me alot when it comes to dodging bullets and avoiding being oneshotted from blunderbuss. And when it comes to distance, if the enemy is using sniper and blunderbuss, you can kill them if you are using throwing knives or pistol because of the faster rate of fire. If they try to close distance and use blunderbuss, you can avoid them with cutlass and perhaps stun them. Every fight is not the same and there are alot of factors at play of course. You don't need their respect if they are going to the Ferry of the Damned.

@ananassaft95

17 күн бұрын

@@Atlas718 If you can handle the knifes, go for it. But I cant and flintlock is more piraty

DOUBLE SWORD FTW

honestly, i feel like the eor is kinda jank. its just big, long pistol

I love the knife. Too bad the best carry with it is pistol or sword

I love this scientific approach to testing out the weapons, but I really think that most of the valuable information here is lost here because there is no complimentary written information with the presentation. For example, a properly titled and ranked table of weapons and ttk that populates one item at a time along with the video would have been immensely helpful. I'm personally having a very difficult time learning from this video because of how quickly it's progressing through each scene. Whether it appears to be or not, this is a scientific presentation. You are communicating quantitative results from a series of experiments. There are tried and tested methods to improve presentations in this space, and one of the most crucial ones is to include clearly labelled tables in the presentation that summarize the numerical results as you go through the details. Cheers!

Maybe next time put the charts on the screen

blunderbuss+sniper.

Sword sniper

All I can say is... bring me the cheese baby!

ryden est dans le déni

i just wish double gun was back man i miss it

@cheatermccheat6378

Ай бұрын

Tf? It never left.

@sSteppingStones

Ай бұрын

it feels really bad when u cant skip the ugly clunky animations

@HellsSacrifice

Ай бұрын

@sSteppingStones you're not suppose to skip the animations, why can't the double gunning community not use exploits in pvp to win fights? Then when they try to bring the double gunning to a balanced level yall literally spend hours just trying to figure out how to exploit quick swapping just to have an advantage over other players. Yall literally just ruin the game because of your ego. 🤣🤣

@sSteppingStones

Ай бұрын

The player with better aim will win. Not the one who is quickswapping. It just means that we don't have to look at the ugly animation that makes the gunplay feel slow and clunky. Also means we cant skeet people and that was really fun

So what is the best

Quick answer: the best weapon is the one you like the most.

I be usin da pistol and sword j cuz

I haven’t watched the video yet but it’s 100% sword

Eye of Reach & Blunderbuss. Or if you are flex/bildge you could swap the sniper or blunder for a sword depending on your team and the enemies skill at boarding. The meta hasn’t changed since anniversary update lmfao. These new weapons have too much jank to be of decent use.

@JJJJ-lk8wj

5 күн бұрын

Sorta agree but the meta changed when quick swap was removed. Now it's much more effective to run pistol sniper, since u can keep range and still 2 tap.

@scages101

5 күн бұрын

@@JJJJ-lk8wj I somewhat agree, I have seen hourglassers using Flintlock+Eye of Reach though idk if the nerf to quick swap was that meta defining since it was always only 1 guy, the other always had blunder. But I could be wrong, I haven’t played much since the update came out so my experience is limited to sweaty KZreadrs and the occasional pirating session.

Completely glossed over the possibility of the throwing knives two stab into heavy

@AShinyRay

22 күн бұрын

You would need 3 stabs plus a heavy to kill

Dude Thank you for your studies Here is an advice if you want one : Skip that super long time when talking about each combo, I can't remember anything Give us a damn table or graph 📈

Quick maths

I do the sniper and pistol combo, but I’ve been using the knives as it’s a new weapon lol

Sniper sword ftw, best of both worlds, ppl who get mad at sword are just mad ppl keep dodging there blunderboss with sword hops

Flintlock/sword till I die

Deadshot daiquiri

4:30 why are there different numbers on screen from the ones you are saying, that makes it pretty confusing and weird

@AShinyRay

25 күн бұрын

Editing software is measured in frames which is different to seconds. There's 60 frames per second and recorded as such, but seconds have 100 sub units. So that's why the numbers are different. I explained this in the video.

@zitronekoma30

25 күн бұрын

​@@AShinyRay Ah I see, I didn't see any such explanation in the video though, all you said was that there is "a margin of error due to the limitations of the editing software"

@AShinyRay

25 күн бұрын

@@zitronekoma30 apologies, did I not say that the measurements are in frames based on the editing software converted in seconds? I should have made this more clear, I'm sorry for the confusion.

@zitronekoma30

25 күн бұрын

@@AShinyRay oh no need to apologize, just pointing it out, great video tho!

Go watch high level HG and the various comp leagues like CSL and LOT. You’ll see exactly two weapons.

@Jupiter3241

Ай бұрын

Blunder + sniper, yeah the meta hasn't changed, everyone playing that and some sworldlords playing sword...

@JJJJ-lk8wj

5 күн бұрын

Thats meta for ships sure but meta anywhere else is pistol sniper. Now go watch any good tdmer and you will see the purest form of pvp in sot, and it's pistol sniper.

I think the sword is the best weapon it’s the most versatile

double pistol would be ok if it did 45 dmg

No that's not correct. The best combo is the throwing knives and the sword, because while everyone else is off partying and having premarital relations you mastered the blade.

Bold of you to assume I can aim.

Hi

have not started the video, but the two new weapons are not it. they both take too long after your left click to fire to be useful in tdm

Wrong! The best weapon on the sea of thieves are the friends we made along that way. Good players can always use a good bait.

Blunderbuss is best. Best combo is eye of reach and blunder and new weapons are really crappy and bad

@jukesboxed4114

Ай бұрын

No way

The cutlass also has unlimited use (bullets) and allows you to sword lunge through water. It is obviously the best overall weapon in the game.

throwing knives are so clunky to use and massively outclassed by x-cancled pistol shots, db flintlock is just straightup useless. i feel like pvp needs more mechanics again to have a better and smoother flow as well as a higher skill ceiling. removing quickswitching just made the game feel way clunkier and even with new quickswitch (which is a lot slower than old qs but at least a bit faster than no qs) and the ability to sprint inbetween shots again it just doesn't feel that great. the new weapons are a massive letdown for me, as they are utterly useless against any competent player who knows how to pvp. rare needs to make things smoother and cleaner again, at least with comes tech.

I’m……….first I guess

Funnily enough, these weapons are consistently tested by that eternal variable: Other people. Also: the new weapons seem to suck for those who focus on the meta. I wonder if they are fun for everyone else?

@biggreen8025

Ай бұрын

Double barrel pistol is trash for pve and pvp, it has the worst bullet drop while having the worst damage, and bad reload speed, if it had better bullet drop than the normal pistol it would be usefull but it's just a downgrade from the normal pistol

@bx2mikii

Ай бұрын

@@biggreen8025Yeah rare should be ashamed with how they introduced it imo. For instance. Eye of Reach has always had stable damage, accuracy, and just been an all arounder. Blunderbuss, has always been a toss up, but still stupid viable. The ability to one shot someone with ONE bullet from ONE weapon, (not including the fact that you can also pick up knifes thrown as a 3rd weapon) is absolutely absurd on its own, but not to mention that, but you also get knockback, and 99% of the time, combo into something else to finish the enemy off quickly. The pistol has just been decent not good or bad id say. Now lets look at the double barrel. What scenario does it ever have a chance to shine? If they knew the meta was already shooting someone with one weapon, then finishing them with your other. Why? WHY?! Would they add a weapon that does the same damage as it's brother, harder falloff, slower reload, AND it has no interesting effects like an idk, the same knockback the shotgun has??? Like i dont think they used their brains when making this, because being locked behind a 2 second animation of having to CHARGE MY BULLETS THAT MAY DO 80 damage. When someone on my ship can just walk up and one shot me, or while im standing there like I'm lost, they can shoot me with an eye of reach and just kill me with whatever in that time. I don't get how this got past playtesting.

the eye of reach really needs an ADS nerf. It does way too much damage to be fired as quickly as it can be at practically any range. It makes the flintlock practically useless.

@RedcubeYT

Ай бұрын

I bet u use sword. double gun has seen enough nerfs the sniper is fine

@knyt0

Ай бұрын

just buff the flintlocks reload time

@translucentoreo

Ай бұрын

@@RedcubeYT The eye of reach is the only weapon that can reliably shoot between ships, therefore it will always be very good. Double gunning has been meta for years, and with the new weapons it is time for a change.

@translucentoreo

Ай бұрын

@@knyt0 In the video, ray talks about how you can shoot extremely quickly after equipping the Eye of Reach. The flintlock can't have high handling if the other weapons have faster time to fire.

@RedcubeYT

Ай бұрын

@@translucentoreo cus it's fun sword is objectively better no one in my clan could ever beat me with sword cus I used to hard sweat with sword and you can still quick swap with it so you can just shit on everyone with that. Sniper is essentially but not in a way where it needs to be nerfed cus then naval is gonna be ass just ask sponge he'll tell you the same

A microphone.

My weapon tier list 6: double barrel pistol 💀, it’s a really good weapon for Pve but in PvP it doesn’t really make sense why you would use it over another weapon like the flint lock or eye of reach 5: Blunderbuss 🔫, The blunderbuss is a good weapon if your new to sot but has low overall potential 4: throwing knife’s 🔪, probably the coolest and funnest weapon to use out of all of them but isn’t super effective in PvP 3: flint lock ☠️, it’s the perfect weapon if you solo sloop, it has great damage and pairs well with the sword 2: eye of reach 🏴‍☠️, I’d say that the eye of reach and flintlock are tied for second because they can be good in different scenarios, if you play on brig or galleon use the eye of reach, if you sloop than go with flintlock 1: sword 🗡️, I mean it’s a pirate game, of course the swords the best. I think Rare definitely favors the sword to be the best weapon. It has crazy potential and mobility and overall very OP

@s3condaryy

16 күн бұрын

sword is horrible its so ez to kill people who are using it, blunderbuss also #1 its insanely broken where it is rn i agree wit eor being #2 and pistol being #3 though

I've only watched 10 secs but the best weapon is the one you're most comfortable with :v

@HellsSacrifice

Ай бұрын

No it's not, the blunder sniper combo is the best in the game and nothing else even compares to it

@CaptSnacko

Ай бұрын

@@HellsSacrifice but if you're bad with it it sucks, are you stupid?

So blunderbuss is still meta, nice.

@Kameleeon0728

Ай бұрын

New weapons suck sadly

The best weapons are the ones you prefer

who are the 16 sad souls that disliked ?

What's the point making a comparison video when everybody who actually plays the game knows blunder sniper is the number 1 go to for any sweaty player.

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

Technically Pistol and then Eye of Reach is better. Technically.

@HellsSacrifice

Ай бұрын

@AShinyRay no its not, you don't have knockback or a gun that can one shot you at close range. Plus with pistols ass hit reg you're going to notice your shots not hitting as much. On paper it might seem better the reality is blunder is the best weapon in the game and sniper blunder is the best combo. Doesn't matter what the stats say when this combo out performs everything else in the game and does it more consistently than the other weapons.

@AShinyRay

Ай бұрын

@@HellsSacrifice yeah, so you agree with what I said in the video

@JJJJ-lk8wj

5 күн бұрын

​@@HellsSacrifice'sweaty players' use pistol sniper lil bro. Get goof

Who is your target audience? Anyone sweaty enough to be are about frame data would obviously only care about animation cancelled frames

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved

My favorite hobby is sword stunning double gunners. Your exploit is useless against sword. Git gud.

@KonnyKhaos

Ай бұрын

Carrying two guns isnt an exploit. Quickswapping is, but I don’t quickswap and I double gun.

@mountainrogue3448

Ай бұрын

@@KonnyKhaos Then you use actual skill. It's the quick swap noobs I hunt

@JJJJ-lk8wj

5 күн бұрын

U can't do it anymore r u dumb