For me, ESO and GW2 are unfortunately one of those games that you think about a lot, but as soon as you start these games, you stop wanting to play them and turn them off.

@davidmorris2234

4 ай бұрын

I don’t know about ESO, because I haven’t played it, but GW2 gets a lot better when you get past the base game and start to play the expansions. So if you gave up on it before you tried any of the expansions, then I would say you should give it another try.

@blacksabbath2559

4 ай бұрын

I played gw 2 until lvl 35. Then i uninstalled the game. This game is ridiculous.

@davidmorris2234

4 ай бұрын

@@blacksabbath2559 Well no game is right for everyone, but millions of people have enjoyed GW2 for years. It’s okay that you don’t like it and I hope you can find something else that works for you. Level 35 is pretty low though and you obviously never made it to a very large part of the game. I’m not trying to convince you to try it again because if you really hated the first 35 levels of your character, then maybe nothing in the later parts of the game will change your mind.

@blacksabbath2559

4 ай бұрын

​​​@@davidmorris2234i dont like to play a warrior with a great sword and seeing a player next to me with a toon looking like à rebel commando from SW, with laser gun. Look of mounts, achievments, everything in this game annoyed me. This world has no personnality. But i you like gw2, good for you. Lotr, swotor, wow classic vanilla were my fav ones.

@fueradelmeta

4 ай бұрын

@@blacksabbath2559 Same for me, you just lost the inmersion in those cases.

So basically the same options we had for the last 10 years. Uff, I was looking for something more fresh than that.

@hirotv2621

2 ай бұрын

Yep another year, same list

@hirotv2621

2 ай бұрын

@@edc6172 It's not the youtubers homie, we get it, it's just the current state of MMORPG's we have been stuck with the same shit for over the last 10 years and when new shit comes out they shut down the servers in 4/6 months after launch

@almightyurf3236

2 ай бұрын

Dude ive been searching for last 2 hours i wanna play something new but its the same crap every year.

@user-zv9ou6xm4v

2 ай бұрын

sadly, lost ark could be the youngest one worth to play for a while. Diablo 4 maybe ?

@timjoseph6844

2 ай бұрын

@@user-zv9ou6xm4vDiablo 4 is not an mmo.

for years we have only these games its a shame...

The Ashes Of Creation channel is here - www.youtube.com/@AshesOfCreationOddity The reason for other channels is imply to help people only get content they want. This channel you are on is for the whole MMO genre, then I have a couple of game specific channels which are just passion projects, news and guides on games I like. Imagine Josh Strife Hayes on his channel also making New World patch videos, it wouldn't really belong would it.

@Harshi1Music

2 ай бұрын

Eagerly waiting for this new MMORPG! I have been following you guys and the game looks AWESOME!

In Lost Ark You start your daily chores at 09:00 and you finish at 21:00 everyday, for 7days a week. Extremely p2w. and additionally you MUST have multiple characters to grind and feed your Main. enjoy

@fueradelmeta

4 ай бұрын

I won´t complain about a 200+ hours of enjoyable gameplay FREE game. But yeah it is kinda off putting that you MUST spend to rivalize agaisnt others.

@dominiksepiolo9870

4 ай бұрын

Personally i find this hella true as a player who only has around 650ish hours in the game, and that was also the reason i stopped playing because while doing dailys etc. at some point i just started watching yt or something on my second screen while playing, and at that point u gotta ask yourself if u even find it fun to play or if it just became a chore for u to do

@chadlineage

4 ай бұрын

thanks for revealing the true state of the game, other games should be revealed too so nobody can be a victim of c.creators overhyping mmoprgs for that matter

@hedoingitsideways

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget, even after doing all this, expect to be gatekept unless you are like 70 ilvl above the content you're doing.

@layoutkimsstudio2341

2 ай бұрын

its an asian game dont expect much. ngl that game was over hyped to the moon. lol

That feeling when you've played thousands of hours on every MMO on the list and want to move on.

@Novica89

2 ай бұрын

Try changing game genre or just stop playing games and do something more interesting / productive instead?

@86Corvus

10 күн бұрын

Are you sure you like games about leveling a character?

good one Jay! cheers!

Great video, thank you!

OSRS and RS3 both are still solid and more complex than what they look. Lots! of content in them

@Str8GasGenetics

3 ай бұрын

yeah rs3 has such insane skill based bossing its cool how you can make more money if youve got the skill to do high end bossing, its not jut about level and gear everybody is maxed but less than 1% can do 500 plus telos

Having played all of those minus Albion, GW2 wins my vote easily. You can PVP at level 2 with full equalized gear set to level 80 and all your abilites etc. Level to max and earn currency for your legendary equipment. In GW2 legendary equipment is the best in slot items and because of horizontal progreassion and zone leveling you dont lose power by taking a break from the game. World vs. World is hella fun compared to NW wars, or Wow's pvp systems. There's also 5v5 arenas, the holiday events have special pvp modes with them like dragon ball going on right now (Think fire nation hunger games), or snowball fights during the winter event etc. They also just released a new mode for pvp fights in guild halls with other mode rulesets so this is huge. The weapon changes about to hit are going to be awesome, and they have moved to quarterly updates, they have expansions planned out for the next 3 years so far as well. Compared to wow, eso, and NW, once you're max level there's very little to do honestly. GW2 you have raids, dungeons, fractals, strike missions, meta events, gathering, crafting, gaming the trading post, daily, weekly, and other events, rush events for pvp where you get double xp etc, holidays, beetle racing, guild hall customization, jumping puzzles, grinding up to legendary gear, transmost *gasps for breath*. I also consider that the grapics actually hold up for it's age, reshade works some wonders on it too, but if you're struggling to run NW or BDO, GW2 is going to work great.

@blacksabbath2559

4 ай бұрын

Coming from lotro, swotor and wow vanilla, i tried gw2. After 35 lvl i unstalled it. No personnality, stupid mounts & achievments, the world is a melting pot of everything. Classes are terrible, races are ugly. Tell me, is a sci fi game or heroic fantasy one? cause i saw players with great sword and other with rifle like sw... Terrible.

Great video Jay! 🎉

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😁

love the video!

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

I am a die hard GW2 fan (over 8000 hours), but when End of Dragons was released, I bought it but just never had the gusto to actually start playing it - think I just got bored of the game. PVP was my main reason for coming back to the game over and over, but I was looking for something more PVE focused. GW2 combat system is excellent, movement and abilities are fluid, builds and character customization is great, but I felt the world they created was never seamless and big enough compared to games like WoW and ESO. So I started playing ESO, loved it, almost 4k hours in. Rich lore, great PVE, PVP is also fun (not as good as GW2 though), nice build gear based customization but I took a break a few months ago. I also returned to New World a week ago after the shambles of a release it was. Pleasantly surprised - they have fixed a lot of the issues that plagued it at launch. But it is still not really scratching that itch to be honest. The games code is inherently bad and it still stutters occasionally even when I am seeing 80fps and higher - the engine is just not as fluid as ESO and GW2. For a 2021 release the visuals could be better. Combat is ok, but builds are VERY limited compared to ESO and GW2. The enemies in NW are also bland and many of them are just clone copies of each other. There is no real variety and I am not sure if they did this intentionally or just lazy. Most of the enemies are either humanoids or animals. So I tried ESO again and just cannot get back into it. FFXIV online was just one massive borefest - combat sucks, sound effects suck and so does the GUI. Long global cooldowns on skills make it even more boring. The story and lore is great though that's about all it has going for it. I have yet to try BDO and I am reading/seeing some good things about it so I might just give it a go.

@EvangelionEscaflowne

3 ай бұрын

thanks for your feedback

@66666sandy

26 күн бұрын

Try BDO

Although things have changed since the most recent expansion, I would say Star Wars the Old Republic is the best story rich MMO out there. It is worth the "cost" to try out the first 60+ hours of story content. (The base game and first two expansions are free, but levelling is a little slower without the boosts you can get as rewards, crafting is limited and there is no end game content such as raiding for free players. Not bad if you don't like multiplayer stuff.) Once you are finished with the free stuff and you want to continue the story, then subscribe just once and all the expansions available at the time, which is six of them right now, are unlocked. No need to stay subscribed if you don't care about the endgame and gear restrictions. All in all great game and graphics and well worth a try.

For people into hard-core pvp I recommend Mortal Online 2, I've been playing since alpha and having lots of fun

I feel u on alot of what u said bro. I've played all the games except for BDO. One of my fav games I ever played was rs3. Tbh the best experience tho is when u get some friends to play together. I've swapped over to more of a survival style mmo. Paxxdei will be amazing blueprotocal if u enjoy an anime style will be worth if it ever releases lol

@relaxingsessions5325

3 ай бұрын

Try BDO

Star Was MMO been ship to broadsword studio last year.. this is a studio where EA send their old MMO to die; like Ultima Online or Dark Age of Camelot. aka: not worth to elaborate.. solid video!!

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

yeah I tried to pick the popular ones without tilting anyone

There arent mmos like Tera anymore😔

@user-zv9ou6xm4v

2 ай бұрын

miss it, great game

Jay do you like TnL or New World better?

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

NW but TL is heading in the right direction

So many mmos? I feel like it’s always those few, Wow, FFXIV, GW2, ESO, BDO. That’s it. It always boils down to those for the last ten years.

TOP VIDEO !

there is a limit on selling cashshop items in BDO, 10 per week, selling and buying gear will take years... you can buy costumes to get crons yourself in unlimited amount for safe enchant, but is it really p2w if you still fail your 4% enhancment XD BDO's p2w is absolutely useless. But you have stuff like weight and slots etc, you can also play without them absolutely ok for years. Costumes absolutely worth buying to wear them : ^ )

New World has the most potential, just unsure if it's potential will be reached. Their next expansion needs to blow the last one out of the water, and actually marketed. I'm of the belief that Rise of The Angry Earth was actually a soft expansion. Let's hope something big happens this year, because it's a game that could be much bigger than it is right now.

Eso going head to head with the new ffxiv expansion will kill eso projections

I am loving Enshrouded.

Seriously do 100 hours for a new player first impressions hundred hours makes you a veteran, but yes, Elder school online has a lot to offer but you have to keep in mind. It is monetized in a really, anti-consumer way. There are things you’re not going to get without spending cash.

I hate people when covering the shit. ESO have the worst monetisation in MMO. Tell them. ESO 95% from the rewards is behind Paywall. 5% is actually in game. They release expansion with only 1 Raide and sell you the dungeon after for more cash. Enjoy the game.

or just play the recently officially sanctioned free private servers of City of Heroes mmo! :)

I am very sad that half of the games here I either have played or just know way to good sadly I do really hoped that I see something new still nice vid

I played New World for a bit and I loved it..untill I entered a town and my goof ol laptop couldn't handle it 😢

Yeah, it has excellent housing done perfectly. It has a great story with every single bit of it. Voice acted, and it’s almost all solo content. Your friends can come along, but when you go into the main story, quest giver you’ll buy yourself listening to them talk which is preferential, your friends talking in your ear while you’re trying to listen to the quest give her talk is annoying as fuck

Man, I'm trying to love New World but they just can't make the right moves with the game. PVP could be so good with few fixes and more play modes. 3v3 arena is nerfed down so can't even find matches and not worth playing. OPR needs some sort of matchmaking and IMO we just need totally different PVP mode than these two. Been playing since launch but nowadays just don't even want to launch the game. And needless to say, these seasonal events not even worth farming for 80% of players. PVE is allright yet gets boring after a while. Solo trials would be a good options for new content and I guess it'd be pretty easy to add to the game. Anyways, keep up making the good content Jay!

@blacksabbath2559

4 ай бұрын

Each time i m on the verge to buy NW, i read bad things like the ones you just write. And each time i delay my purchase

Every one of these games are garbage... gosh this genre really is dead. It's been the same 5 major games for the last 10 years now.

New World can make the greatest expansion known to man, after the last I don't trust them enough to buy it. The game needs a few years to be added to and a new team making decisions.

Should try checking out MU Online

For me, archeage was the mmo...but you know how that went...

I've played all of these besides NW, LA, AO, and Runescape, but I highly doubt any of them have what I want. Some I've played more than others, it probably goes something like WoW, GW2, ESO, FF14, BDO for playtime. I think one of the worst things about videogames is they try to hinder the player too much. Why hasn't some game dev listened to what we all hate and love about these mmos and made a new one that doesn't suck and combines the best of them.

That big announcement for new world that's coming, players won't like it. They have already curved development but let's let AGS explain that one

There’s really a mood point because if you’re gonna play the game seriously you have to have your soul plus or you have to just admit yourself you’re never going to do any crafting because crafting requires supplies supplies quickly fill up your storage unless you have the crafting bag which is unlimited crafting supply storage There’s absolutely no way to play this game seriously without the SL plus subscription so it’s a moot point and then moderation wise. They suck you in by making you buy the subscription but that unless you wanna wait until next year you also have to buy the expansion so you’re buying the expansion. You’re going to get free when the next expansion comes out Because you have ESO plus if they would simply sell the crafting stash or the craft bag which at one point they did you could buy the craft bag as a thing and then just buy each expansion they’ll come out once a year so big deal. In my opinion they’ve made a terrible choice because of I play. I will not buy the current expansion. I’ll wait until it’s free.

New World good AF but there's no SEA server.. So if you're an asian player then the ping is high for pvp

FFXIV has been my choice for the past few months!

ashes of creation is the most ambitious mmorpg to date. sadly, with eso which ive sunk years into, it just feels too empty, souless, unlike skyrim which is really weird that that havent just jumped up eso to this gen instead of milking events and subscriptions

No mention of dune awakening?

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

The problem is with it, no idea when it will actually come or really what type of gameplay it will have. They are keeping their cards close to their chest

@BlxxdiemondGaming666

4 ай бұрын

Yes they definitely are, I’ve been keeping a close eye on the content they do provide, but I do believe it will be a great MMO and they did do a closed beta recently hoping that shows we may be looking toward a realease mid year. For now I’ll stick to NW 😂

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

I think it's a first person shotter surival game with crafting and I am excited@@BlxxdiemondGaming666

ESO is the best mmo I’ve ever played

Sherwood Dungeon

ravendawn

There are 3 maybe 4 mmos to play and the only ones worth playing are in order 1. Guildwars 2 2. Wow or ff14 3. Eso Oh and if you like retro grindy mmos Ragnarok online Lineage 2 Maplestory. There you go. Thats what is worth staying with and playing.

You know the genre is down bad when you watch all the way through just to get to the upcoming mmos

Ravendawn

i cant find this game (the future)

I want to love BDO as visually its beautiful but my gosh, it feels weird for an MMO, it just feels like a single player with other people just floating around in my world, I want a social MMO that looks as good as BDO

@86Corvus

10 күн бұрын

Bdo is trash.

Why do you make different channels? What is the advantage?

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Difference audience. This channel is for everyone interested in mmos but not everyone cares about ashes of creation news

Another year, same list 🥲

Doesn’t matter to be fair, monetization wise fennel fantasy is, I’m far better choice than elder scrolls. You have to buy an expansion every so often, but your subscription is the only other money you’ll spend besides but it’s a buyer, place subscription business model, so far better choice, because unlike elder scrolls, they’re not sucking you into buying the subscription because it’s necessary And then charging you every year for the expansion they’re just telling you straight up the subscription is necessary but the cosmetics to mount all that shit aren’t tied to loop boxes. If you’re worried about the monetization final fantasy is a better choice if you’re worried about the gameplay, personally, I would stick with Elder scrolls professionally voice acted every bit of the content acted by a professional, not a single bit of dialogue box bullshit Final Fantasy will have lots of dialogue box bullshit so main story requesting is your thing, elder scrolls. If you’re worried about spending money, final fantasy is better.

Gw2 is a Master piece. Is that simple

Yeah Elder scrolls is great it is however very anti-consumer monetized I mean seriously you guys complain about paid to win and all that shit and you hate loop boxes get your praise Elder scrolls online when it’s loaded with loop boxes and pay to wind shit I mean demonization scheme is ridiculous. If you play it seriously you have to buy P is so plus, because there’s no other way anymore to get that scrap stash or on that scrap stash crafting bag with the unlimited crafting storage of the shit in the game comes out of loop boxes if you really want it you gotta spend cash buy a bunch of loop boxes keep opening them and hopingthe games not officially a subscription but you also gotta buy your plus unless you wanna buy the butt load of expansions and DLC’s so it is a good game fund. It has certain issues.

Umm I dont think BDO is the most P2W in this list. You can progress and compete against players being completely F2P. I personally only paid money for outfits. I think BDO is more Pay for convenience rather than P2W

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I can't judge that very easily

BDO on PC really sux. The keybindings and the controls of the game are totally confusing.

I'm all in on New World. I love it. One day I do my fishing rounds and get mats and other do Expeditions and other PvP.

@kolbiebaker7471

4 ай бұрын

I sat in queue for 2.5hrs to do a 3v3, game is beautiful and the combat is awesome but in my opinion the lack of pve and pvp content just breaks it for me. Glad you enjoy it!

Nice video thanks, FF14 extension will bring a really appreciated overall graphic update, cant wait to see it in game

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Indeed, looking forward to that

new world was a bust y/n?

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Mostly yes

@DiCapraLeo

4 ай бұрын

@@jayodditysadly nw is dying at the moment. The game was extremely promising and had a lot of potential

I disagree with BDO being pay 2 win tho, its more pay for convenience. Ive reached 760 gs without paying for anything other than a tent. WoW and Lodt Ark is a lot more p2w imo

@86Corvus

10 күн бұрын

Pay for convenience is pay to win too.

@jayoddity A term a lot of people love to use in the BDO sphere isn't pay to win, but pay to convenience. Many things are able to be received through events or just hard work; you can't buy gold or better gear, but you can buy things useful to attempt to upgrade gear. Only problem with the game is that it is massively grindy (since its a korean mmo) so i'd recommend some of the modded servers with higher rates, and free pearl drops.

@aegisthes272

4 ай бұрын

Don't write off BDO for fear of grinding! I really do recommend the modded servers.

@aegisthes272

4 ай бұрын

1500 hours on steam, 1500 hours on GamezBD private server

Aion. It was the most wonderful game. So much potential ruined by greedy companies and bots. Also archeage.

Lost Ark with "Possible indications of P2W"? That game is sructured around P2W.

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but I haven't played it, so I feel bad sayign something is pay to win when I never touched it :(

GW2 wins easily. Why? I can play it on my freakin Office Laptop which hasnt got a GPU. I really dont know how this stuff works but it runs smooth with 60fps. wvw/pvp and huge world events with 100+ players.. No problem. This game will run fine on a tomato. Absolutely gorgeous.

@shaunanigans3364

3 ай бұрын

yep

Having just started gw2, FFXIV, and ESO all at the same time because im a masochist, gw2 in my opinion is easily the prettiest and has the most fun combat, but ffxiv is rapidly growing on me in gameplay terms. Eso is honestly just boring so far. It feela like an insanely easy baby game. Ive heard it actually gets challenging in late game but we'll see if i can slog to that point. The combat also feels very skyrim ish and i never though combat was a strongpoint of skyrim.

What MMO RPG to play in 2024? Jay Oddity: I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA, WAS JUST MAKING CHEAP VIDEO FOR CLICKS, OH WELL HERE'S THE SAME OLD TIRED SHIT FROM TEN YEARS AGO

@jayoddity

3 ай бұрын

That's sort of fair. But really I can't tell people what you should play... Like I'm not into story so should I play ff14? Maybe depends. If people don't like this style video I won't do it again, or I'll try and improve it

Ive played them all and I always end up back playing BDO. Best graphics, best combat, sadly doesnt have a lot of group PvE content. If it starts adding more group PvE content, itll be best MMO hands down.

@kluafoz

4 ай бұрын

Have you ever tried black desert mobile? Man I love that so much more than bdo!!

@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS

4 ай бұрын

@@kluafoz this is pc.. we don’t talk about bullshit mobile games 😂😂😂

@raven5323

3 ай бұрын

​@@MiCKEYDiAMONDSSlol...

Albion online only one

Lost ark is garbo. Combat is great tho

Based on the title, I'll give every one a hint. Not New World :)

I cant take any youtuber seriously when they say they are willing to play all these games and rate them higher than OSRS and have no knowledge of how deep and extensive the content in RS+OSRS is.

@jayoddity

3 ай бұрын

I can't play OSRS, the graphics just put me off. Simple as that, I don't need cutting edge graphics but I can't handle potatoe

@shaunanigans3364

3 ай бұрын

@@jayoddityThis is my problem. I try to get into it but I can’t stand the prehistoric graphics

Lost Ark has "some indications of pay to win" i mean i like the game but that makes it WAY too obvious youre not familiar with it at all

Jay sweety, bdo is one of the few games that are not payed to win, you cannot be more wrong regarding this! ( you are saying this becouse you might be from america if i'm not wrong ) in america the store is different, and i mean MASSIVELY different jay, with 100 dollars over there in america you can get a ton of stuff that for us here is around 500 euros or more, the pricess and the amount within the purchase are massively different. We trully need to speed about 5 times more to recive the same amount of the same thing that americans get with just 100 dollars and the dollar is cheaper then euros, so in europe to say that this game is pay to win is just plain untrue.The way the game is designed is to not be able to trade money or pretty much anything within the game with other players ! There are very few "actually rich " players out there that ware born in to that big biggggg money tipes of ( trully wealthy familys) and they do like to risk they accounts for that extra advantage( i say risk becouse the only way to obtain in-game currency which is bassically the bigger and more important tipe of riches then what the in-game store provides), is to buy grinders,you have to actually give the info of your account to them so that a profesional payed team will farm on your account day and night to get you the amount of in-game currency that you purchased and that can take between a few weeks to a few months cause even for teams is still a very ridiculos slow proccess in obtaining the in-game currency! . Now,the only thing that tens of thousens of dollars or euros can buy you in the game is a few things that are limited here in europe and they don't exactly help you " alot " on the spot after u purchased them, you need to stack them up with time till you have a decent amount of that item and use it to improve your gear! The game store jay is severely expensive europe, really expensive when it comes to this. U need to be what they call a in-game whale, a very filthy rich person that can afford MANY thousens of dollars or euros per day or per week or per month for quite some time to be able to stack up what you can buy from the store with reall money, it is not unlimited purchase for what you need to actually improve your character and become stronger then the other players faster! 98% of the players in europe for example cannot afford more then 60 euros per month ( if even that ) to invest in their accounts for better rewards in the game. Believe me, this game is right there on the very top of NOT pay to win tipe of game. You see, when you go on about beeing a pay to win game, u need to understand how before makeing such a statement, and the how is and i'm not kidding , the how is low and extremely expensive in europe at least i do not know the full extent of the situation in america and american servers( i expect it to be far more pay to win possible then it is for us ). As an example, you need 1000 euros here in europe just to get yourself started " properly ", some starting packs and some skins for everything in the game that you need and you are already broke after that!!!! Only after that you can start investing in your empowering journey as one of those verrrrrryyyyy few whales that can actually afford to do just that and even they need alot of time to create big addvantages between themselfs and the rest of the players, they cannot do it over night or in a month , like 6 months or close to a year depending on the their luck , that would be an accurate estimated amount of time that a whale would finish his or her journey to beeing the strongest ! While a whale needs around a year, the rest of the world needs MANY MANY years to reach that stage. IF you ever enter the game and learn it and not just watch videos on the internet, you will get a bigger and better view and knowledge of the game and that about that " how " are the rich players takeing advantage of the pay to win option which is not really an option in my opioon to become one of the strongest much faster ! I say that is not really an option becouse, you spend 100 euros for almost nothing , like what , 1000 cron stone, and u cannot do shit with it, u need over 1000 just for a single try in upgradeing a tet to pen and the it is like 4% and as i said, if you are a trully lucky person then even low ammounts of what you need can be enough, but me...after 3 years and around 1300 euros invested , im not even close to end game gear. They made damn sure that here in europe, pay to win is not a reall thing or maby i just have the worst luck in the world and i ended in the most difficult , ultra hard mode and unluckiest server in the world to explain my current level, and i have 2.362 hours in the game. I admit, i did not play it 10 hours a day for 3 years, my situation would have been a better , but unlike those that are born in wealthy families, i have to work and make a liveing and take care of alot of responsibilities so my gameing time is much shorter then theirs and even so, from time to time i feel playing other games , watch movies, go out, etc... cannot really spend 10h a day like them dedicated to progress in the game. Anyway, america and eurpope does not have the same situation when it comes to in-game stores, for us in almsot every game everything is much more expensive and the ammount is lower compared to american in-game stores for the same game, that is a honest to god ,completely true statemant of fact ! Ciao

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

I'm from the UK and I haven't played it. But don't worry it's on my radar

@AlexandraCristianaRO

4 ай бұрын

@@jayoddity Hey jay. My first reply was abit to long and full of grammar errors,some of it barely readable ^^ So here is a shorter version=> IF the majority of players could afford to spend trully big numbers in the game per month at least, then yes we can say that the game can be paied to win in regards of the cash items that you can obtain from the store, that lead straight towards createing more chances to upgrade their gear for faster improvement ! Big numbers jay, more money per month then an entire common family combined usualy earns, that is just how excessively expensive it is to reach a high enough volume regarding the stuff you have to buy from the store and have enough to try your luck and upgrade the gearagain and again, that is why i do not consider this game to be paied to win jay! It is trully far to expensive for the general population to afford this path towards power. I have not seen a game more expensive then this,if there is one...i sure hope i never end up in it, i do not need more stress :P . Bye bye

"What MMO should you play?" None of them unfortunately. Go play a good game instead. Also way to "recommend" a game you haven't actually played. Good job.

None of the above :D

I guess I'm picky. I don't like isometric views so Lost World is out. I don't like PvP in MMORPG's and BDO enables PvP when you hit the level cap with no way to turn it off. BDO is out. I would love to play FF14 and the graphic update looks great but there are too many buttons for me. I mean really, do you really need 3,000 bars and 1,000,000 skills to do combat? FF14 is out. I don't like the graphics of GW2 and while many would say "graphics don't matter if the gameplay is good" I didn't spend money on a graphics card for nothing. GW2 is out. I love ESO but they keep nerfing the classes to the point where if you spend time building a char you can expect that char to completely change in a very short time rendering your work useless. ESO is out. WoW would be great but you can't start at level one and go though all the expansions in order. You have to "time walk" which gives you one expansion and at level 60 (you can stretch it to 61) you get kicked out. WoW is out. I'm iffy on Lost World. I've never played it so maybe it's wroth a try but there is something about it which keeps me from picking it up. No clue as to what that is. This leaves nothing. I think MMORPG's have gotten to the point where you pick the one you like the least and go from there while you wait for the perfect MMORPG which may never exist. Great video! You know ... if someone took the best from all these games, and all of these games have their great points, then put them together they may have a hit. Or at the least, my money. Maybe I need to get outside and grab some of that ... what do you call it again ... oh. Air. I've also heard that big yellow thing in the sky is really our friend Mr. Sun. Might need to get me some of that too.

@chadlineage

4 ай бұрын

i got stuck with mir4 for waiting a better mmorpg experience and guess what theres almost none thats deserving for casual at least. Now i decided to quit mir4 because if you want to play competitive you have to spend minimum id say 300 cad to keep up, crazy! no more scam to earn platforms that was my first n fookin last

@mariobroro

4 ай бұрын

* "graphics don't matter if the gameplay is good", I didn't spend money on a graphics card for nothing * To be honest it's really a shame to go with this mentality when there are games out there that doesn't prioritize graphics but the game itself (gameplay, soundtrack, story, characters, etc) For me, that mentality died when I played Undertale, OneShot, Omori, Valheim, Lethal Company, Hi Fi Rush, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Wizard of Legends, Tales of Berseria, Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Terraria. Those games are closer to me then Cyberpunk, Forspoken, Hogwarts Legacy, GTA 5, FIFA games, Battlefield, COD or any other AAA that has pretty graphics but the game itself sucks There are exception like Red Dead Redemption 2, Ghostrunner, Witcher 3. But from the point I've realized I'd rather have a good time with the game then just look at pretty pixels, that's where the games became fun for me again. And I have and RTX 3060TI as well

@synitarthrax5618

4 ай бұрын

@@mariobroro I don't make graphics my sole litmus test for games but it's a part of the judging process and for some games it's a major part of it. For instance, I wouldn't play Old School Runescape because the graphics stand out but most games have good enough graphics where this point is low on the list. When it comes to GW2, I don't like the art style because it breaks immersion for me and the gameplay style isn't enough to overcome this. For me that is. Everyone is different and looks for different things. I guess this is why there are so many games instead of just one.

@mariobroro

4 ай бұрын

@@synitarthrax5618 from the way you stated like how I quoted above i assumed you meant that you don't like the game cause it doesn't challenge your graphic card meaning that you want Next Gen Graphics. No problem if the art style and direction isn't for you. I can understand that and wouldn't had anything to say, the choice is yours.

@synitarthrax5618

4 ай бұрын

@@mariobroro Well, the way I wrote my post would make it seem that way. I guess it was more tongue in cheek than anything else but you make a great point about game play vs pure graphics. I think they go hand in hand when choosing a game to play long term which is what MMOs ... if they're good ... are made for. When I/we choose games we take all these things into account and each person has their priorities. We're good!

Ahh the classic impression of BDO "heavily p2w". True if it was around 2018-2020. A lot has changed already.

@blacksabbath2559

4 ай бұрын

No. P2w and grinding

show gameplay footage, not cinematics! Jesus!

@jayoddity

3 ай бұрын

MMO gameplay is often a little boring, but it's a fair point to try and show a bit

No offense dude but almost every MMORPG whether it has traditional tab targeting or action combat has a lock on system. Tab targeting isn’t about not having the target every time tab targeting is about how you select what your targeting literally tied to the tab key is where it got its name. It started in Alam online you hit tab tab tab and tell the target you want to heal or attack is your target and then you let go your spell and then you hit last target to keep hitting that same target Tara the grandfather of action combat has the same function Target whatever it is and by the way you didn’t have to use the tap key in Alam online you could literally point your practical at something and then release a spell and then keep hitting last target at that and the spells of gone that target right but in a big fight where you’re trying to get, you know on exactly the right target and people are moving around. It was easier to tap through targets what you got good at it you could just have that tab and tell your target was highlighted, and then you started healing them or casting spouts against them. Whatever it is you’re doing, or attacking them with your bow or or whatever in tear of the grandfather, they acknowledge grandfather of action combat. I played it on console never on PC. I don’t know what key it was but on consul you lock on the target by pushing down on the mouse button, and it keeps you facing towards the target all of your spells and abilities go on that target Until you change it it’s still targeting there’s literally no action involved action combat situations where you have to target each and every spell and or in fact, they usually are very directional like if you’re using me you gotta be facing right towards your target. Otherwise you’re swinging your sword will miss that’s action combat games like BDO or not anyway action combat most of what you do is AOE and even when it isn’t you still have to target the first time And then once to target, everything goes off on that target. It’s easy to switch because you just click on another target. You’re still getting a lock on every one of these games has a lock on except some of the really weak ones when New World was being developed and it was nothing but a PVP sandbox survival game it had true action combat. I don’t know what the combats like now, but I remember watching the videos where people are running around basically everybody’s the same running around bashing with an ax, and if you slung and the person wasn’t right in front of you, you didn’t hit them that action combat if I can release a spell an ability or swing my weapon and hit him regardless of what direction I’m facing it ain’t action combat. It’s just a hybrid version of tap targeting.

@Wellshem

3 ай бұрын

Press enter buddy

er correction, MOST of the people don't like ANIMATION CANCELLING in ESO when it becomes a REQUIREMENT for end game raids for DPS measurement crap. Don't promote this shitty ESO game until they fix this issue and not call it a "feature". Having said this though and having played ESO to end game and having over 1000+ attribute points, the leveling up process is actually fun. It's the end game that ESO has a HUGE problem with and their constant shitty "rebalancing" of the game every fucking 3 months and you have to redo EVERYTHING over again bullshit. Also for Albion Online, you call BDO P2W LOL, Albion is so much more P2W than BDO. BDO has toned down their P2W by a LOT and you can actually progress now without having to P2W at all. Also, BDO's P2W is about getting more chances to enhance your gear by paying more $$$ but it doesn't GUARANTEE success...so it is still P2W BUT with hard limitation put on by your own luck with RNG. Albion is straight up buy to get power. You didn't mention that at all when you mentioned Albion.

what strike me most what most people are saying is that MMORPG GENRA IS DEAD, TOO MUCH GRINDING is REAL, the P2W aspect is obnoxiously horrible, you get bored easily. mmorpg has always been about the community vibes and gameplay…. while waiting for a really good one i hope dragons dogma 2 will be suffice if not Bg3 is there anyway…

Blue Protocol.

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

The global release is a little unknown

@Kanti

4 ай бұрын

it is only known to release in 2024, yea@@jayoddity

@jayoddity

4 ай бұрын

and also I may have forgot about it :P@@Kanti

@alfredgreybeard

4 ай бұрын

You mean like when it was supposed to release in 2023... yeah @@Kanti

@Kanti

4 ай бұрын

you show it in the not even first second of the video :D but no worries it happens^^ @@jayoddity

im gonna stick with NW, the combat/pvp is too much fun even with all the quirks the game has.

New world in the list ? so all of this list is just a joke.

play black desret onlie and soon dune awaking looks good to

you guys all are talking about the same mmorpgs...

blacck desrt is now so good

FF has been the most boring MMO ive played so far.

Lost Ark is definitely A LOT more pay to win than BDO

BDO really isn't pay to win for a few reasons. Yes, there are niceties you can get to help from the store but they aren't really game changing. More % xp, or having repairs in the open world, etc. You can buy some things off the store and sell them in the market but this would take a TON of money given what those items sell for and what the cost is for the best gear. So in a sense, you could drop thousands of dollars over like 6 months and gear up one character. So while that's pay two win, it's soo much money I doubt many are doing it. Also, you cannot trade silver (in game currency) with other players which completely nukes gold selling. Lastly, the market pices are capped mins and maxes, so no whales can control the market like they can in say WoW or GW2 which also pretty much elminates the incentive for gold sellers to grind out items and sell them on the market.

@relaxingsessions5325

4 ай бұрын

@jayoddity Yes, here! I'd say WOW or any game that have gold selling in real life is much worse than BDO, that is why, play the game, research more to know.

BDO is fun for a few months until you understand it is pay to win, extremely grindy, PvP ganking outside of towns, and crafting utilizes a fail stack. The fail stack means the odds of improving an item go up upon each failure so you want to fail an upgrade on junk items 25 times to have a better chance upgrading the item you want, but if you fail as you often do, you are actually now worse off than when you started - such a huge time sink.

@zeid9828

4 ай бұрын

This is true if you last played BDO around 2018-2020 though. 😂

@Toadbabe

4 ай бұрын

@@zeid9828 Just watched a video on fail stacks in 2023 - looks like the same mind numbingly boring and frustrating crafting ever invented. But feel free to explain how it has been fixed.

@zeid9828

4 ай бұрын

@@Toadbabe Fail stacking has always been like that. Every game has its own enhancing mechanics and It is not a big of a deal on the long run as they added new mechanics like using a certian number of black stones to jump fail stacks (+30) without needing to fail items. They also added devour feature that you hunt an item from certain mobs or given through events constantly and it gives you 100% chance to add failstacks without needing to tap for fails. World bosses also drops Advice of Valks +30 +40 It's weird that you state your opinion like you are a veteran of the game when in fact your knowledge of the game is outdated already. The only correct thing you mentioned in your comment is that BDO is grindy which is 100% true. For P2W you can watch it here and you be the judge if you still find the game heavily P2W. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqhprcprZKbedLg.html

@Toadbabe

4 ай бұрын

@@zeid9828 So you said what I said was true if I played 2018-2020, but now you say fail stacking is always like that so then it’s always true? Ok, I think it sucks. If you enjoy spending your time doing fail stacks, good luck and have fun!!!

@zeid9828

4 ай бұрын

@@Toadbabe I just stated new and easier way to making fail stacks and you still cry about it. LOL and why are you so focused on fail stacks topic when you also tackled about Pay to win and PvP on your comment. You clearly also have outdated information on those areas. Such a weirdo confidently talking about something you clearly lack information of. 🤣

Albion Online have awful support and developers. Can't recommend anyone to play it.

@86Corvus

10 күн бұрын

Its not an mmo, its a pvp game with resource collection. Its mors like foxhole or anvil empires than an mmo.

So in general - nothing new

Really, try BDO and judge if its P2W, you should not use others opinion to say that it is P2W, Id say WOW is more P2W than BDO. Also, please try the game before you say anything about a game, that way we know that you have genuine take. Thank you!

@relaxingsessions5325

3 ай бұрын

Really? Not WoW that's literally selling RMT? Games that have DLCs to buy to play them? Then tell me how its still alive even after almost 10 years. Newer games cant even compare to its combat and graphics. Stick to your 123 skill level of play style

BDO? just don't XD, try sure..but don't XD

Bdo is NOT pay to win 🤦🏾‍♂️

Another year in which I'll pass on mmorpgs . All of this are CRAP !!

There's nothing good man. Even FF is a chore to play after a while. Bleh.