Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZread by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:30 Is Maternal Instinct a Myth? 09:55 The Demonisation of Motherhood 17:05 Why Do We Have Testosterone? 24:47 Men’s Natural Instinct to Objectify 32:24 How Women Can Understand the Male Sex Drive 37:27 Orgasm Differences Between Genders 46:36 Is Sex a Spectrum? 56:28 Differences in Arousal Between Genders 1:07:59 Why Hand Grip Strength is Important 1:13:13 Where to Find Carole

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for assuming, that those who listen to you, and programs like yours, don't need to have every single thing written in huge letters.

@thinkpositiveatownmyfounda3024

Жыл бұрын

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@auswomble

Жыл бұрын

This one should put to bed any doubts you may have about whether you're making a positive difference in the world. I'm buying that book. Bravo sir.

@templarmalta9946

Жыл бұрын

That's study on female sexual arousal which they can measure actually showed that women are turned on by all forms of sex even animals copulating. It also showed that women had no idea what actually turned them on. Great guest too.

@McMahonHater

Жыл бұрын

What a load of hypocritical bull shit.

She brought up a fantastic point: we can support the rights of others without having to deny biology. It doesn't have to be one or the other. 🙌

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

As long as you don't create victims, chosing your desired way of life, has to be ok.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

Жыл бұрын

The left has laid claim to being the owners of scientific truth so long they are willing to poison science to maintain that authority. This is now evident in biology, medicine, virology/epidemiology. It's long been the case that sociology was cargo-cult science, delivering nonsensical blank slate theories.

@fiveleavesleft6521

Жыл бұрын

@Fenwick Strong, confident, happy men don't need relationships. They still have a sex drive though and as long as that is satisfied the onus is on women to persuade them into a committed relationship. Which sex is the term "commitment phobic" generally applied to? Only a very desperate, insecure man would wait around for three months. Sure, there are plenty out there (largely created by current misandrist culture) but most women don't want them.

@BigStar1972

Жыл бұрын

We already have a model for this. Civil Rights for the religious. We all get that we can protect believers without being required to assent to beliefs or to give beliefs without evidence special access to policy. Wherever we draw that line for Baptists, we can also draw it for gender dysphorics. Sincerely held, important to one's identity, but false and without evidence. We can protect the civil rights of such believers and even not be assholes about their beliefs while also insisting on science when it absolutely matters.

@wyleecoyotee4252

Жыл бұрын

@@fiveleavesleft6521 Interestingly I'd you check out different channels, men are pointing out that it's difficult in finding women who want to have relationships and marriage .

What a lovely woman. Glad we have someone like her at an institution like Harvard. They've been in need of some common sense for some time.

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

An educated women that actually cares for men. Beautiful 😍

@sergeantbigmac

3 ай бұрын

Ironic watching/reading this after the recent Harvard scandal. This comment about her and common sense, integrity, etc at an institution like that is more important than ever before.

@sayuas4293

14 сағат бұрын

She doesn't work at Harvard anymore

When she was describing being on testosterone, i just kept thinking “yeah, thats what it’s like.” The part about “a woman’s body was food and i’m starving” hit home.

@scionofdorn9101

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. I've long likened the male libido to an actual, undeniable, appetite much like hunger and just as imperative.

@emanym

4 ай бұрын

Humanity has been comparing lust to hunger and thirst since we first began to talk 😮😊

@seth4766

3 ай бұрын

omg her dream was so accurate 😬

@givmi_more_w9251

3 ай бұрын

I'm female, but hearing the male perspective is fascinating to me. I'm basing it simply on my personal experience not being impaired by hormonal birth control, the female sex drive isn't weak or infrequent either, but it's much more 'I need the affection and the attention of my partner, oh, the physical pleasure is nice as well.'

@glachloser

2 ай бұрын

​@@givmi_more_w9251I'm a guy and fascinated by the female perspective and that's super interesting and the Impression I've gotten although seems like some next level females can be pretty insatiable

As I got older it became apparant to me the difference between a mothers instinct vs a Fathers, I'm very close with both my parents but whilst livning away it is my mum who rings me most often telling me how she misses me, my dad on the other hand we'll exchange a text making sure we are both alive haha. My parents are not together anymore. My relationship with my dad developed more into a good friendship as I became a man, but with my mum I'm still her "baby boy" always and forever, her words. Trying to discredit a mothers instinct is beyond me, carrying your child and then giving birth alone creates a different bond right from the get go.

@elinope4745

Жыл бұрын

Vaginal birth does as well. They don't tell you that babies born through C section have bonding issues with mother as a direct result of that. But that is the truth of it.

@elinope4745

Жыл бұрын

@Fenwick go look it up before you or someone you love does it. Be more informed, it is because of the oxytocin pathway and bacteria on the vaginal walls. Don't take my word when hundreds of experts have had plenty to say about it

@DDeCicco

Жыл бұрын

@@loganblackwood2922 Interesting point about what might motivate a woman to believe that maternal instinct is a result of the patriarchy. Chris raised a similar point when wondering if the woman who wrote the article had children of her own.

@TheSuluhope

Жыл бұрын

@@elinope4745 Could you post any evidence to support this claim? Lots of mothers have C-sections without any bonding issues. It's a procedure that has saved the life of many, many mothers and children. Don't disparage it without backing it up with facts.

@PC.NickRowan

Жыл бұрын

I remember someone trying to tell me that fathers can develop the same maternal connection with their child that a mother can. I beg to differ, not only makes no logic sense whatsoever, you couldn't possibly produce an example. It's not to say that fathers don't love their children, but there's a reason they can get up and leave easier than women, and it's not due social stigma, it's because it kills every inch of their body and mind forever.

Carole becoming emotional at the end over the type of world she wants her son to grow up in really just touched my heart. I loved watching her interview, she seems like such a fun person with a beautifully big heart

Loving the recent podcasts on gender dynamics. Chris is such a good interviewer.

@onionfarmer3044

Жыл бұрын

They have had ups and downs though. Some guest have been great while others were grating to useless.

@Contentious_Point_

Жыл бұрын

@@onionfarmer3044 yeah, like Destiny, but with this for this theme he needs Rollo Tomassi if actually wants a proper breakdown.......I know he won't, but if he wanted to do the topic justice...

@Contentious_Point_

Жыл бұрын

@@cantbendknee first - he gained some real world experience(he's far from unique in this, just that it is a foundation) secondly - he was a moderator on some of the early pick-up communities(sosuave being the only one comming to mind right now) third - he has written and published 5 books on the topic, at least one of which is regularly utilized(though dissappointingly often unaccredited) In agreggate he's got 'round 20-30 years of study into the field of intersexual dynamics, both in the field and academically. So he can certainly speak with authority on the subject, yes he is more than familiar with the work of dr. D. Buss, R. Henderson, etc. -he uses their work frequently, much of what he adds to the discourse is angles and observations that TENURED PROFFESSORS are now to afraid to admit openly. unfortunately we all know he's not gonna be invited to come on here...

@malhenning1608

Жыл бұрын

the actors ability to be geek and chad hints at selection pressure for IQ. Maybe we always play IQ selecting mating games we just need to pick a better one

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

Having destiney the stripper on was a major mistake imho

Not only does it hurt when you are a few hours away from your baby but you can get terrible infections in your breasts! I’ve gotten them. It’s very vulnerable. There is NO WAY a human babies and children could survive without a huge dose of maternal instinct . Because it’s just so hard and relentless!

She's an amazing woman. And I've noticed, not just on this pod, but the people who speak on these issues tend to get emotional whenever boys/men issues are brought up.

@Amoruniversitas

Жыл бұрын

As a woman nothing quite gets me like the idea of men being hurt, especially the ones I love and my future sons

@ARR409

9 ай бұрын

@@AmoruniversitasWell you’re an amazing woman. My blessings go out to you, hope you live a wonderful and happy life.

Blurring the screen at the end was the type of kindness most of humanity sadly has little use for. If I see a day when I don't have to live on wheat corn and rice, I will absolutely donate something to support your show. You probably won't see or read this, but I would never let that stop me from writing it.

She helped me write a two-part series on Men's Mental Health last year. I sourced some of her research in it. She touched on some of the things I covered in my articles. Her intelligence and sincerity are remarkable.

This is so fascinating! I've never been a feminist, but I've learned so much and really empathize with men so much more after listening. I'm only about halfway through, but wow, this is a good one! I feel like men and women in general misunderstand each other and talks like these are helpful in understanding the opposite sex.

@steffihaas7490

Жыл бұрын

You've learned so much? Care to give me an example? The problem between the sexes is not misunderstanding. Misunderstanding leads to understanding easily when communication happens. There is a massive amount of available sources one has at one's disposal to understand the opposite sex even if one can't make direct communication work. So, no, that is not the problem for adults. The problem is that at the end of a woman's aggression stands a girl or another woman and at the end of a men's aggression stands a girl or a woman. That's the problem. If a man fucks up, he targets a girl or a woman. So a healthy society puts a premium on keeping men in check. Men kept other men in check. And women learned how to protect themselves. That has all fallen away, actually it has been ripped off like a band-aid and now the wound is bleeding out and killing society.

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

I would argue that men understand women WAY more than women understand men. A lion knows more about gazelles than gazelles know about lions. All a gazelle knows about a lion is to run when in its presence. A lion however knows EVERYTHING about gazelles or they will go hungry. A lion knows where the gazelles like to eat, sleep, drink water. A lion knows a gazelle will run if spotted. Men are the ones who iniates relationship. They "hunt" women; men are mainly the ones to ask the other sex out and he's the one that proposes marriage. They must know how women move, what they like, what they do in order to get sexual access. Sex is abundant these days so I would argue that men are successful on the "hunt" and that men do indeed understand women. If sex was rare for everyone, I would argue that men aren't successful pursuers. A woman just has to look pretty and be available in order to get sexual access. Why would they try to understand men when they don't necessarily have to in order to get laid? So they sleep around thinking they're winning, however, they're not able to get longer-term commitment from a man. Women need understand men though imho in order to properly lock down a man for marriage. This is why men aren't proposing as much anymore; women don't understand what men want and actually vilify men for their wants and desires. So men hit it and run without any commitment.

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

@@kmc1872 Women are experts at disqualifying, sure. However, that doesn't mean they know more of what men want nor does that mean they adhere to what men want or give it to them. Just like how prey doesn't know what going through the mind of the hunter, women really don't understand men. Also when I was talking about the hunter and the prey, it was a comparison. I didn't say males were better hunters across all species. But yes, is way more difficult to pull off a solid attack than a solid defence. This is why there generally more prey than predators. Men are on the offense in the dating market, that was my point. You brought up orcas. Regardless of sex, orcas are the hunters, the apex predator. Do you think it's easier for orcas to catch their prey or do you think their prey has an easier time getting away? I would argue that the prey, shrimp and krill, have a very easy time. I doubt they even think about orcas or what they want. I bet when an orca passes through a school of prey, more prey get away than the orca eats by far. The orca has to go to where the prey is at, at the time that the prey is there. The orca has to know how the prey is gonna move. It has to spend the time eating. Or it will die. The prey just has to move once the orca gets there. Most of orcas prey probably never even see an orca. This is why Hitler's Blitzkrieg was stunning. This is why Alexander the Great's conquest was impressive. Gengis Khan will go down in history forever for a reason. I'd much rather try and hold a castle than take a castle. Most casteles have only been taken a handle of times and spend most of history in peace due to being safe. Defending is easier than attacking 99.99% of the time. It's only in RARE occasions like in the movie 300, when defending is almost impossible, that defending isn't easier. The battle of Troy is a rare occasion. There a many ways to skin a cat, but there aren't that many crafty ways to take a castle or land a woman forever. Like it's almost impossible to defend against a nuke. I bet basketball rules favors aggressors. So for rare cases like that, yes, I'd rather attack than defend. But men don't have that much more capabilities over women like orcas have over their prey either. The "dating rules" don't benefit men like basketball rules benefit the aggressor. It's more difficult to hit a homerun in baseball or get a score than it is to get an out. In hockey, its way easier for a team to block a shot rather than make a shot; same with soccer. This is why the scores are relatively low. Same with football. It's way easier for a woman to disqualify men than it is for men to try and get score with women. Let me ask you this. Why has over 80% of the female population just about always repopulated where as only 40% of men get to? It's because it's much easier for women to attract than it is for men to pursue. Not because women know what men want more than men know what women want. These are two separate things.

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

@@kmc1872 My entire original argument is that men understand women more than women understand men. You seem to have the argument that women understand men more than men understand women. Correct me if I'm wrong. We agreed to compare men to the predators/aggressors and women as the prey/defenders in this game. I would say that most defenders(in most games and in war historically)/prey/women have the advantage against the men/aggressors/predator. This shows. The defender/women/prey aren't tactful so to speak though. They have the advantage. This is why when the aggressor/man/predator must understand the situation and his opponent in order to succeed. It's a must actually. Women know that men like youth, beauty, and reproductive capabilities in their mate. Men know that women like older, richer, fitter men. But he also knows where to go to find women. Not any women, but the women he likes and doesn't like. He must know when to go there. He has to be able to get there. Once there, he must play his cards right. He has to know how to initiate the relationship. He has to know when to push and pull, tease but reassure. He must be nice, but not too nice. He has to he mean but not too mean. He has to be all these things and know how to do all these. Where as the woman just has to live her life and endless amounts of wonderful men walk into her life, down to fuck. She spends her time disqualifying them. She doesn't have to know men in order to succeed. Any guy she wants for the night. She gets it without fully understanding that man imho, relieving validation and assurance that she's doing the right thing. All of this game so far is to initially get sex. Just like how the objective of a predator is to kill its prey. Just like how an army laying siege to a castle is to achieve the goal of capturing the city. Just like how in any sport, someone wins and the game is over. Now what though when it comes to the dating scene? Marriage is what's next. This is when we lose these comparisons. This is where it shows how little women understand men. We see many women not able to lock men down. The ball is now im the men's court. Women might be the gatekeepers of sex. But, men are the gatekeepers of marriage, being the one who proposes. Marraige rates are down. Women are going years without her bf proposes to her. Divorce rates are up. It's more of an interest for the women to retain a marriage, yet she's the one that mostly leaves. Biologically speaking, women should be doing everything they can to get/maintain marriages. There are many reasons for this. In the year 2022, since women can't make this happen, I would argue that women don't understand men. Men are still out here hitting it, getting their sexual needs met. Hell, a man today that jerks off to porn is more satisfied than a woman without a husband or kids. Or a divorced woman with kids in her 40's. Women are loosing here. A man doesn't need a women. A women needs a man. She needs him to do the heavy lifting in this world that is mainly fit for people bigger than her. She needs him to protect her in this dangerous world. She needs him emotionally to be a balanced women. A man can live his life alone and get by. He can knock a woman up, getting kids and ditch his wife while continue to mate with younger women. He'll probably die young working some dangerous job anyway. Woman who gets knocked up without a man is screwed. Marraige mainly benifits women. How do women get marriage? By fully understanding what men want and need; just like how men get sex from women. Since this isn't happening and men are still sexually satisfied, I argue that women most women don't understand men. I'd even argue, that women 200 years ago understood men WAY more than they do today. They like, lost that knowledge or something imho.

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

@@kmc1872 ****Sidenotes***** There are more prey than predators for two reasons. Most predators are carnivores and most prey are herbivores. When you don't have to fight for your meal, you reproduce more. However, your more defensiveness and preyed upon. This is life 🙏 Men ponder what women want because they're the pursuers; its not because women are the mystical unicorns. I'd also argue that just about all women are the same. The aggressors always try to outsmart the defenders. They're always looking for a week point. It's not because they have zero knowledge about their opponents. I'm not denying that men say this. I think women naively blind themselves to what men want, in the name of feminism. What men want is traditional relationship. We don't like these egalitarian or equitable relationships. We want mothers as wives, not 304's that belong to the streets. We want virgins, not a mother of three kids. Most men say nothing, because they know the women they're with isn't marriage material. Why should he tell a thot what he actually wants? It's now his friends turn to hit it. I also think the only reason why women are allowed to live this lifestyle is because of modern medicine; birth control and abortions. Without abortions, the black population would be well over 25% of the population. Yet they're only at 13% rn. That's why men haven't reproduced as much. They have 0 reproductive rights. A woman can have sex and choose to reproduce or not. A man cannot do this. Like I said, women are the gatekeepers of sex due to our laws, otherwise the man is a rapist. This is also why men have less sex than women on average. And why most men don't get laid. It's a different game than marriage.

To Dr. Hooven: Your tears do you credit, and are no shame. Thousands of men will see this and will feel seen and cared for. That is no small thing.

@carolehooven4134

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@diomedes39

Жыл бұрын

@@carolehooven4134 thank you for your work! This interview was the first time I heard of you and I am very happy to hear your point of view.

@kenyanicholas6809

Жыл бұрын

@@carolehooven4134 😯😯😯

The NY Times article was pure genius. I would like to thank the author for driving yet another mail in the coffin of both the Times and this truly comical belief that we are all just empty vessels waiting to be filled with clap trap like this.

@johnglenn2539

Жыл бұрын

If this is a huge conspiracy, why are you more likely to marry into this patriarchal system if you're middle or upper middle class??

@mondavou9408

Жыл бұрын

Dude. Great framing of an otherwise POS way of looking at it.

@Cyphlix

Жыл бұрын

The 2 empty vessels that still read NYT will gobble it up like gospel.

@jonashellsborn7648

Ай бұрын

​@@johnglenn2539I quite don't understand your rhetoric. What does lower class marry into?

@johnglenn2539

Ай бұрын

@@jonashellsborn7648 that middle & upper class are more likely to marry (into the patriarchal marriage system) than lower/working class. So, the more intelligent &/or priveleged, the more likely to marry into this "awful" system. It makes no sense

40:25 I think a big reason for that is that men get angry instead of sad. It takes half a lifetime to learn about yourself as a man to get an understanding that you develop anger as a coping mechanism to deal with the inability of doing something about the situation. I think thats actually a good thing in a lot of cases since that anger functions as fuel to bring change if possible. I personally learned that trough loosing a loved one and therapy. In case of loosing someone no amount of anger or motivation can help you, there is nothing to change and in the end you are left with no other option than to move past the anger and confront the crushing sadness that lies underneath.

I really enjoy how you take on "controvertial" topics of today and debunk the shallow, social media nonsense and form it into deeper knowledge of the topic. Really great work. As a medical student and someone who loves evolutionary biology this is really entertaining.

Chris, you are probably the best interviewer of any podcast. Not only do you ask salient and probing questions you also allow the guests to talk at length. Even Joe Rogen has trouble with interrupting! She was so enlightening! Keep it up!!

Im so impressed by her ability to be intelligent and technical about her findings and doing it in quite an impressive manner then the next she can flip to being extremely human and vulnerable, emotional, crying a little and high in openess that shows how comfortable she is with herself then on a turn of a hat go into being technical and to the point again, very impressive. To the point and technical mixed with play.

@zaraahmedov3456

Жыл бұрын

That is the case when you talk to an educated and feminine woman :)

@TheHaymeadow

Жыл бұрын

I came to express the same feeling about Carole’s openness and humility, thanks for doing so in a much better way than I could have. Wonderful, insightful discussion, I loved it.

@TheLeon1032

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHaymeadow what a great podcast, cheers haymeadow have a great weekend

@martinb4272

Жыл бұрын

@@zaraahmedov3456 There is no way to attribute in such general terms this behaviour, with such certainty, to being "an educated an feminine woman." I have witnessed just as many educated and feminine women with poor emotional self-regulation, lacking in the ability of introspection, empathy and communicative agreeableness - as in women I've met who are not as educated and/or less feminine. There is always a dispersion of psychological traits and behaviours across a wide spectrum, regardless of education, sex, race, ethnicity etc. Dr. Hooven is one example of how an 'educated and feminine woman' can be. But there are studies that also point out the correlation between high intelligence and quite different, opposing traits to those she displays. Let's treat her, and applaud her, for the individual she is.

I appreciate her fears and tears, didn’t mean it to rhyme, but this is clearly meaningful to her and would be such a benefit to us as her readers. We want our sons and daughters to grow with good character, and we see men need understanding and encouragement now more than ever. May she, and many other experts, pioneer better futures for our men.

"Is sex a spectrum ?" . "Don't give me that look!" That's my favorite moment of this podcast😆

@Sukerkin

Жыл бұрын

And it confirmed the great conversational rapport we were watching :thumbs up:

@diomedes39

Жыл бұрын

He threw a grenade and she was not pleased 😂😂 she handled it well for sure

Another phenomenal interview… you’re on a roll, mate! This was the first time I’ve heard of Carole. Thanks for bringing her on!

As a Mother of two teenage boys, I would love to read this book! It's fantastic to see passion about this subject coming from someone who is a Mum and also has all of the knowledge and evidence to do so! Write the book!

I'm halfway through and I think you two have a very productive and watchable onscreen relationship.

"There was 5 of them, so like a variety pack" Hahahahaaa you legend!

Wholesome. This lady is trying to do good. Love the ‘I think but I’m not sure’ answers. That end part had me, someone who doesn’t often cry, welling up.

Great interview but I ABSOLUTELY LOVE how kind Chris was to this woman and brought out something in her to fight for at the end of the interview. It was a great exchange…❤❤❤

33.34 This part really spoke to me - her dream / description of male sex drive - she really hit the nail on the head for what it feels like. I'm a guy and I remember going through puberty and becoming insanely obsessed with girls - even girls I was not interested in in any other way, i.e. I didn't like them much, they were boring, we had nothing in common etc - and these obsessions would stop me from sleeping, enjoying any activity, getting on with my studies etc - absolutely hated puberty lol

@salmahernandez3142

Жыл бұрын

Similar to Dr. Hooven's dream, I have periodic bouts of libido where you just have to rub one out otherwise the ability to concentrate and be productive are just not possible. From this I have always had an greater emphaty for men and tolerance than my other female friends to a point were some have thought of me as trans.

@salmahernandez3142

Жыл бұрын

@Jane B Robbins I am right there with you. I have found that the stigma is harmful to all the sexes. And the bs i have dealt with is comical.

@pamleonard7330

Жыл бұрын

@@salmahernandez3142 Trans? Your female friends seem ignorant. Lots of girls and women experience a strong libido and physical need for sexual release. And yes, truly comprehending the obsession with sex that most boys and men experience should allow for at least a degree of understanding if not sympathy. Our culture teaches very poorly on these topics. I wish I had understood these drives better when I was in college fighting off the aggressive advances of male college students.

@salmahernandez3142

Жыл бұрын

@@pamleonard7330 must clarify on my poor sentence. Hopefully there is not further misunderstanding. In prior response, the 'some' was in reference to general population of people I have interacted but do not consider as actual friends. Quite a bit of people are close minded or do not think more critically. Within this population there exist 'some' who have shortcut and labeled me as trans. By and by the most my actual friends have done is tease and wonder if my libido would be at a similar level comparatively or greater if I was a generic typical male. There has never been any type of labeling from my friends only acceptance.

@sarahrobertson634

Жыл бұрын

@@salmahernandez3142 Learn some self discipline. Come on, people.

Mate, I love the depth to which you're getting into these topics. 18 years ago we were both living it up on the piss in Newcastle. it seems you got into this stuff via just an insatiable curiosity to "know shit better" and get the data on it. I got into this stuff via a couple of degrees in biology and a frustration that we were denying everything we knew about that subject in order to make certain topics easier to think about. Of course, that just makes shit worse. Keep up the great work, man. What you do is valuable and more people need to see it. Hopefully your BBC write-up pushes your way of thinking more into the mainstream consciousness.

This woman is amazing. We can feel her maternal energy and it's soothing. Great interview and keep up the good work. Make sure to notify us if that book get published!

Post nut clarity is such a distinct stark contrast ubiquitously experienced by men. If women experienced it, they wouldn't even have to think about it whether they experience it or not. It's like coming out of a tunnel.

@katiie7

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never experienced it I’m 32 never heard of another girl talking about it either. If anything we bond more thanks to the release of oxytocin. I’ve heard girls say they weren’t considering anything serious until then. It makes sense if there’s a chance of being pregnant just not logical always. Where men spread the seed then wonder if they even meant to plant it in those conditions 🙈

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah I’ve experienced it numerous times. Almost immediately after sex I’d think “damn, I just did this and that just for this?!” .. the last two times I had it, it really drove me away from hooking up casually . It’s not even close to worth the hassle

@mejdlocraftci

Жыл бұрын

@@katiie7 its not only that. I never partook in one night stands, so I dont know how I would feel shortly after finishing with some random Woman, but for me post-nut clarity isnt about 'reconsidering' or thinking about other options. Its also, literally, a clarity of mind. The tons of built up energy and constant urge to have sex is suddenly gone, its like you feel asexual for 2 minutes, like you see the world without your horny glasses, unbiased and you for a moment realise how much of your daily thinking and behaving is affected by the idea of possible sex... And then you go back to normal

Sooooo happy to see you have Carol Hooven on!!!! I loved her on Rogan and I look forward to hearing more of her wisdom. 😊❤️

@killa-ma-jig7281

Жыл бұрын

Watching that one next! I didn't know she was on the JRE as well. Thankq 🙏

@SelenaSea

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for mentioning her appearance on Joe Rogan, too. Will watch that as well. 🙂

I really like this lady, she's more down to earth about this than most guest.

Y'all took the words right out of my soul! Fabulous insights and conversation! The good Dr. Absolutely must write that book. Someone with her experience and expertise needs to help level the playing field on this entire subject at this particular time. In spite of all our sophistication, we continue to be a very superstitious society. Thank you both very much for your passion and work and clarity.

Wonderful and yes Carole please write the book. From one 56 year old Pediatric Nurse with 2 adult sons to another Brilliant Scientist. Thank you Chris for your interview and podcasts. I watch many. Cheerio lovely Humans

One of my absolute favorite interviews, pure honesty and intelligence

Brilliant chat... Thanks so much, both of you!!!

Excellent discussion, thank you both. Ending was very moving.

21:40 i think it was robert sapolsky who said that testosterone makes men do whatever thing that makes them have more status. Litterally he went on by "If you society values spirituality and calmness as a measure of status, then you'd probably have all high testosterone men meditating all day long instead of working like mad to own more money than the rest". Which is really cool and somewhat makes me think "wait, generally who among everyone in our society choses money as some of the best indicators of status? Who might value it in a way that results in high testosterone men putting themselves to work like mad?". Suddenly we (men) dont seem to have that much control over the "patriarchal" society we live in, but that's not interesting in any way because it makes women accountable for everybodys circumstances too (and i really mean that "too").

@powerliftingpremedcrafter473

Жыл бұрын

Truth bomb! Well said.

@purpessenceentertainment9759

Жыл бұрын

I think testosterone is only one of the ingredients that is involved with temperament. Some of the most bad ass men on the planet are the calmest dudes. But once they get in the ring, go to war, perform, lead, they have this monstrous aura. Men can recognize this with each other. It’s because they put so much hard work into their skill, they know what it takes. They see someone do that and respect it. I think flying off the handle is more genetic, also immaturity. Not to say people that fly off the handle are not needed. They’re the demolition guys in war, but that is not to say calm men can’t channel their dominance. It’s not the money that gives you the status. It’s the skill set you honed all your life to have the advantage of capital growth. It’s the Millionare mindset, not the million dollars. Impressive skills will be noticed by men and women. Testosterone may have a role, but there are so many other variables. The one percent are the ones that control the patriarchy.

@kenyanicholas6809

Жыл бұрын

🙄🙄🙄 men don’t have much control over the patriarchal (funny scare quotes) society we live in? Do men not have control over themselves?

@marc5279

Жыл бұрын

@@kenyanicholas6809 not having much control over something does not mean having no control whatsoever. I thought quoting "i really mean that too" would clarify that we're all into this

@kenyanicholas6809

Жыл бұрын

@@marc5279 my guy, I read your statement as saying that women have power over men because men wanna fuck women and thus will just do whatever women demand in order to get pussy. If that is what you were going for then it’s absolutely laughable to think that male simping translates into any systemic power. First of all, you’re completely ignoring the fact that anything resembling free mate choice didn’t exist until 5 minutes ago in the west. Women had to care about her family’s opinion, economic stability, etc, rather than just following raw desires and personal preferences. Secondly, you’re taking a lot of agency away from men by acting as if wanting to fuck someone turns you into some helpless simp forced to serve their every whim lmao.

Love Chris, love the personal tidbit at the end about the book. Carole was so informative. Really enjoyed this one. Keep up the good work.

One of the best of your podcasts that I've ever watched Chris. A lot was said that isn't usually voiced. Thank you!

Boom! Right outta the chute, this was one of the most informational podcasts. So clear, & eloquently communicated. Thank you, Dr. Carole for getting this info out there…and as always, Chris, great interview!

Chris, I'm looking forward to the level of podcasting you'll be bringing to the table once you have your own family. You're already seeing the world with pretty open eyes, mate.

@juneelle370

Жыл бұрын

I hope he has a daughter and loves her tremendously… that way he can see things with women even deeper. We all have blind spots we have to sort out within ourselves in regards to the other sex. (Obviously I hope he loves his boys tremendously too.) 💜

Your podcast just keeps getting better Chris. Thank you for doing what you do 🙏

35:30 Thank you, Carole Hooven, for checking in and setting him straight. The problem is not the drive (perhaps), it’s the way it drives some men’s personality to be harmful to others, and those others are mostly women and girls (and boys). The problem is that, in all men, it drives them to be less considerate as Chris is displaying in this very segment. A considerate person would stop and think about what a deep hurt they are inflicting on the woman they want access to without being bothered by the human being. He does not. I’ve watched a few interviews now and he’s never reached a point of true reflection, he seems very much in search of explanations and apologies to be exactly how he wants to be without any repercussions for his ego. The problem is how men pretend not to know what their behaviour is causing women. They pretend that it’s not their doing that girls and women behave overly sexual, dress like hookers, talk in a certain voice and generally have low ambition to be successful in the world. “It’s just their nature.“ No. There is an epidemic right now of girls transitioning because they cannot bear the amount of pressure girls and women feel to be beautiful and desirable. They cannot deal with the unwanted attention FROM GROWN MEN staring at them with lust, objectifying them and disregarding not only their feelings and safety, but their humanity. As you said yourself, girls and women are bodies, nothing more in most cases. AND THE GIRLS KNOW IT. WE ALL KNOW IT. And it causes so much harm and pain to girls and women. And you don’t care. THAT’S THE FU..ING PROBLEM, you absolute m0r0n! You create this fundamental problem and then make it the women’s problem. And that is down-right anti-social. Make it your problem and put some of that brain and muscle power into cultivating a personality that is not smug about this, but considerate. Maybe develop a character trait or two that are not based on superficial values. It’s not that hard to be an adult, you know. The problem is the culture’s artificially ramped-up obsession with abusive sex. So many girls and women engage in sex that they don’t want to have, they dissociate from their bodies and redefine their boundaries to non-existent. It’s forced self-exploitation. And to counter-argue that it’s a woman’s choice is ridiculous and heinous. If you expect every single girl in the history of the world to act and feel counter-culture and counter-society every day of her life, you are clearly a very unrealistic or manipulative person.

@umbertotrivella5712

Жыл бұрын

Quite presumptious answer. Where on earth you got such ideas? Women are incentivised by horny men in to transexuality?? Really? Any pubblications that can back up this wild idea? Allso, lets be real, women are quite capable to objectify them self without any external help. The biology does all for them too, no need of any traumatic narration there

@kenyanicholas6809

Жыл бұрын

👏🏾 exactly. The empathy should be a two way street. I don’t want to derail and be like “bUt wHat aboUt tEh wiMmiNs!” but honestly it really just rubs me the wrong way. How they’re like “oh poor men being expected to practice some basic impulse control and not stick it in every thing with a vag!” while failing to give context and just completely breezing by women’s perfectly valid and understandable apprehensions about men’s sexuality controlling our entire fucking lives. Many cultures and communities coerce women into covering up, even at the cost of their own comfort and health, because they take this line of reasoning that men can’t help but jump on a woman with even an ounce of skin showing, because female flesh is just so enticing. It’s infuriating because it’s clearly so hypocritical and incoherent. Surely, if men can be entrusted with controlling all of society, men can also scrape up the will to control their eyeballs. How have they gotten away with this notion that “women emotional men logical” again, if men are apparently slaves to their sex drives? That’s pretty emotional and not very logical at all.

That ending was amazing. Great interview.

Completely brilliant in every way! Thank you!

Others have said it, but you seriously are killing it lately! Loving the podcasts. Thank you!

I love this podcast, you get the best guests that I've never heard of before. Keep it up, you're doing some great work.

Oh my, didn't see such ending - it was really touching, would cry myself. Beside all emotions - Carol, you're set to start the book ;-) I'd love to read about this subject with that take!

Brilliant! Carol's book needs to be written. Now.

This was a great interview, she was such an excellent guest- insightful, endearing, and totally open to productive conversation instead of scoring points or something.

This was an entertaining episode, great info. I love how patient you are with her Chris, says a lot about your character.

Oh Chris you are an incredible coach! I'm looking forward to Carole's new book 🥰

Fantastic interview again, this needs to be heard and championed. Brilliant Guest who is genuinely absorbed in the subject. The emotion she showed is proof of her belief and very endearing. 👏

This was very informative and refreshingly informal...and fun...a compliment by the way

I fully enjoyed this podcast-video. Very informative. Thank you

What a wonderful conversation. I searched for Dr. Hooven because I just listened to another of your pieces that referenced her and how she is being cancelled for her thoughts. I really dig that on topics that she has not mastered or thought about much, she ponders her answers and does not pretend that she is the oracle. This give me the confidence that I can believe the things that she says.

I loved this episode!! Thank you ❤❤❤ She is very funny and articulate.

I can't wait to read Dr. Carole Hooven book. She was a brilliant guest!

Yet another video where I LEARNED something. Thanks you both.

What a genuine sweetheart. Carole Hooven, please write this book!

Great conversation as ever

It is a shame that people don't believe us when we describe our struggle, and have to do massive research to have empathy into what men go through from the time our eyes open to when we go to sleep, as well as on occasion, while we sleep.

Brilliant conversation between two highly intelligent non-politicized people. We all need much more content of this type. MSM ain’t gonna provide it. Great job on these podcasts.

Well done, enjoyed this one.

Exceptional video, the presenter was so well researched.

What an insightful podcast.. love how the conversation goes so smooth BUUUT grip strength ?! Time to build a fitness grip strength company fast

What an amazing conclusion!

Her appearance on the JRE was one of my favorites over the last two years, great lady

Caroll you are very brave! Please write the book!

Wow what a great talk! Thanks for introducing me to her! I too want my son to be happy and proud to be a man when he grows up! It’s one of the big reasons we are going to homeschool, I don’t want any funny ideas implanted into my kid brain. I just want him to be happy. I can’t wait to read her books!! Thanks again!!

Great conversation 😊

Great interview, very interesting.

You two were great, thank you

This woman is excellent. Very interesting take on things. Thanks.

I love what she said regarding the importance of understanding men’s natural biological drive. I’m a mother of two teen boys so I’d totally read her next book if it’s about male puberty & educating society on what happens to them hormonally. Society loves to focus on girls/women but we’re severely lacking in understanding boys/men & having empathy for the challenges they deal with.

1:19:42 Not me out here talking to the screen saying: "I'll support you". but honestly I will. This is a book I will absolutely buy.

What an interview!

She's great! I'd listen to that book. Chris, I so appreciate you being a gentleman, supportive, and encouraging there at the end. In my book that's very much part of being a good man.

What an intriguing conversation

Wow great podcast! Really enjoyed this. And I confirm what was discussed during the transman sections being one myself. Went from radical feminist to red pill after medical and social transition into manhood. Woke up from the fog of forced feminization so I relate to other men who have had their masculine identities and sexualities demonized. Thank you both for the discussion and Chris love the podcast it’s one of a few I tune into weekly. Take care.

I might have written that NYT article when I was 20, or at least wanted to. 30 years on and a mother of 3... it’s still the type of article a 20 year-old know-nothing would write 🤣

@mariekirby1683

Жыл бұрын

Totally. It's amazing to me that we are even having to have this conversation or that any of it is not obvious to so many people. Our society has turned into something very strange and clueless.

@anneb889

Жыл бұрын

Even at 20 you would have experienced your mother’s maternal instincts in your life. If she had an upbringing that didn’t have a very good mother role model, then she would have seen it in friends moms…..heck even many female teachers you can see a maternal instinct.

@captainbeastazoid7084

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and what's astonishing is how our society elevates the opinions of these 20 year old know-nothings. This ignorant nonsense that's inapplicable to 95% of the adult population is featured in the NYT and in prominent academic journals...

This podcast is just awsome.

Loved Carole at the end saying she would do the book so her young son wont feel stigmatised. Brilliant mother and woman

@Justsomeguysomewhere

Ай бұрын

Yes, however it is only when they have a son, that they MAY come to these insights. Sadly.

@clearashazy431

Ай бұрын

I'm a young son and I feel stigmatized

Fascinating interview. Nice job. Carole really knows her ***t👍👍👍

I am a very feminine woman but I think I must have relatively high levels of testosterone for a female. I do understand what the male sex drive is like because I feel something similar, specially the days preceding ovulation. I get very drawn to visual cues of masculinity and the images get stuck in my brain and come back as flashbacks. On the other hand, being female, I still need a strong emotional connection with that male before I would feel comfortable acting out my sexual desire for him, no matter how strong it might be. Some days all I can do is think about sex with the man I am in love with and I can't focus on anything else. Very unproductive... I feel for the men who are shamed for the way they are biologically. I try to help the men in my life accept that this strong drive is normal and there is nothing shameful about it. What matters is that we integrate that in a healthy way and develop healthy sexual relationships with others as full human beings, not just sex objects. And I think this is where culture has a fundamental role, allowing men to evolve beyond just their basic instincts. Unfortunately, culture is going in the opposite direction, promoting everyone, men and women to just treat each other as sexual objects and I think this is a great tragedy of our times...

@markhurley4657

Жыл бұрын

Sex drive in men has many components aside from testosterone. My free testosterone is higher than 98% of men. I am full of androgen but my sex drive is relatively low. Men need estrogen to promote aggressive behavior and induce sex drive. A man with very low estrogen will be quite passive and will likely not pursue women....even if they appear very masculine

@captainbeastazoid7084

Жыл бұрын

Great comment!

@pamleonard7330

Жыл бұрын

@@markhurley4657 Super interesting comment. Wondering if research has found this to be true.

@markhurley4657

Жыл бұрын

@@pamleonard7330 They showed in one study that the enzyme aromatase that converts testosterone to estrogen promoted aggressive and territorial behavior in male mice. I used to suffer lower testosterone and i was far more irritable and aggressive at the time. I had a higher estrogen to testosterone ratio at the time. I find the abusive men are generally the most insecure with their masculinity. True masculinity does not have irritability or aggressive behavior attached to it. More like a calm sense of energy and confidence/assertiveness. Testosterone calmed me tf down. Just for reference, my levels increased from 221 to 950 in a span of 7 years. The reference range for males is 250 to 916 ng/dl.

@QuidamByMoonlight

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Well said. Glad you can relate

Dr. Hoovens book is really good, highly recommend it

So informative!

Hi Chris, Find your interview style and talks fascinating and thanks for sharing. My comment here is that I feel that the real issue relating to truth is that it has been sabotaged by the forces of consumerist to drive us all in directions that push us to buy more and end up dividing us all. Thats the core of the issue really. Men and women were made to adore and love eachother by nature.

"Gravity well" is what I call the urge to look at the female form. Energy has to be spent to NOT look, and the more you gaze, the deeper down the well you go. It was great to see this reality getting addressed in the episode. In certain circumstances I become mentally strained to keep my head and eyes politely forward as the reward signals in the brain keep signaling to look. Going to the beach, urban center, or... god help me... a college campus, can be mentally exhausting if I am with my significant other. Sunglasses are a necessity as a kind of pressure valve.

@sarahrobertson634

Жыл бұрын

Get a grip on yourself

Hi. This video has confirmed so many things I’ve observed and it’s fun to talk about this. I enjoy talking about sex and sexuality in cinema and tv. Can’t wait to read the book. Thanks for the video :)

The last few moments was such a iconic EXAMPLE - of 'it all'... (ty, for the masculinity in the face of the 'feminine struggle' ) that was RICH.

Loved the talk , learned a lot, agree she should write the book,

She is fantastic. Such an important voice to speak credibly on behalf of biological realism and general sanity

What an incredible and brilliant woman

❓️ Has Suzanne Venker ever interviewed Dr. Carole Hooven? 🎙 Because I'd LOVE to hear THAT podcast episode!

Fascinating and helpful conversation as always thank you! 😊 I’m also mindful that the Oxytocin hormone is increased during breastfeeding, which as many know is the bonding hormone also present after orgasm and sex and just through cuddling/contact in smaller doses. It calms the nervous system and makes us feel safe and secure amongst other things. It’s all such a delicate interplay and it’s great we’re talking about gender differences. Fostering the understanding of the bigger picture and individual perspectives and influences within that frame.

As someone who got prescribed testosterone supplementation a few months ago, due to an age-related decline, yes testosterone is a hell of a drug. I had felt like I was walking against a headwind for several years. I even tried antidepressants, which only made it worse. Testosterone injections solved all that. To the point where I wonder how women function at all with such low levels. Do not underestimate testosterone.

Tht dream made me say out loud "oh whoa!" because it is SO accurate! It is wild that she dreamt that!

Chris you have the best guests.