What Is The Stanley 46 (Not the 45 or 55)
Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль
The Stanley 46 Adjustable Dado and Plow Plane
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I found a full 46 with irons at an estate sale. I was the sole bidder $10. I didn't realize what I had until I cleaned and started researching. Some on Reddit say I could get $500 for it. Right now its to cool to sell.
@koen_bakker
Ай бұрын
I can't believe you got it for just $10! I'm very jealous!
I find the 46 substantially easier to push, far superior chip ejecting (and very few chip jambs) and makes straighter walls when rebating . Surprised you could hammer adjust the blade depth. The hold wedge either holds it really really well ( ie does not move with hammer, or is completely free. Found that if one slightly loosen the screw and lift the blade up, it break the wedge and allow small depth adjustment with the fingers, Handily this procedure also pushes the blade towards the internal corner- aligning the tip of blade with the nicker - critical for crossgrain rebating operations- which the plane does really well as long as one ensure the nicker bites before traversing. If your blade is nestled tote in the internal corner, I think the backs slope is closer to the Stanley specified 20° angle rather than the 22° mentioned. but not certain as ai freehand sharpen. But really it's the goto plane for most joinery operations. On softer woods it can keep up with a tailed router, pretty impressive. My one sits in ready to grab position with a wide blade in for rebating/tenoning operations- more common than Dados... Whoops essay but the it is favoured plane, it was relavention in what is possible with hand tools when I first obtained one,
Very nice video. I must say that I like my 46's much better than I like my 45's. I have 1 46 with the 1/4" blade and then I have 1 with a very wide blade in it that essentially turns it into a moving fillister.
Interesting video; thanks for making and posting it. And, thanks for the “42” joke. I SAW MY NAME! I SAW MY NAME!!!! Uh, thanks for that, too.
Thanks James. Great video. Probably should not have watched. After watching your videos with the 45 and 55, I now have them sitting in my workshop. :)
Thanks James, always enjoy learning about the history and evolution of vintage tools.
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Handtools! 😂
I just got the Veritas combination plane, and after watching this video and the one about the 45, I see how Veritas took what they liked from both designs and made it into one fun plane :)
What I want is a set of drawings for the irons so I can make my own. I've inherited a 45 and lots of folks want to see a full set, but I'm not sure I want a full set as I'm not to likely to use all of it: but if I had the prints, then I can make what I needed and that would both more fun and probably more economical.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
They are simple just 1/8 bar stock skewed to 22 degrees and the leading side is also beveled at 22 degrees.
@johnfreiler6017
Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo the 45 cutters have a slot and hole, which I could reverse engineer easily enough, but it would be nice to know what they were supposed to be. Are the 46 cutters really just that simple?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
Yup. No slot as there is no adjustor. Just angled stock.
Trout thanks that is a new name to me,he was definitely no wet fish
I got a set of new irons from St. James Bay in Mesa,AZ many years ago.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
Yup. He is still selling them on eBay.
I lucked out with my 46. Full set of cutters and the fence. LIke mine, yours looks like a type 2.
I have only come across one combination plane. A 45 complete with all accessories in it's wooden box. I was new to this sport then and was very intimidated so I passed. Damnit!
Glad to see that you finally found the irons you were looking for!
i would like to find a very early 46(i have a later one) it would look great next to my 41
Thanks for all the info, James! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Very cool
As far as the irons go, could you just get straight irons for a 45 or similar, and resharpen them with a skew?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
You gould, but you have to also be el the sides too.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi James, going off the 45 subject. Do you know anything about the stanley number 60 combo plane? I've looked everywhere but can't find anything great video. Many thanks, Lee 👍
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
You have me a bit confused as the number 60 is a block plane. Feel free to send me some pictures I'd be glad to take a look at it. My email is jameswright@woodbywright.com
@leethompson5942
Ай бұрын
Hi James, it's ok now she's gone and sold it now. Thank you for getting back to me 😉
Thanks James!
My 55 has that spur style, but sadly they are missing.
So ok, I did the math, and 45 is my go-to sweet spot. I would like a Stanley 48 grooving plane. Hay, it's only 45+3, or something like that.
Missed this.... nice
Neva hoid of it lol taught you wuzza pullin me leg
Thanks for the great video
How much did you spend on your No. 46? Rather than buying irons, did you consider making your own?
@alangknowles
Ай бұрын
They have sloping sides. I'm missing two (and the rear wing nut). But I've not enough confidence to get the side angles right. They aren't both the same - presumably a degree or two for clearence.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
I spent $30 on mine. The irons I traded for. Making it is relatively simple just time consuming as the sides have to be beveled as well as the edge. and there are a couple people online who make and sell them.
@alangknowles
Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Who?
@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj
Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowToThanks, and good to know. I have noted the availability of heat treatable steels online and they can be obtained in numerous thicknesses and I am rather handy with a grinder.
@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj
Ай бұрын
@@alangknowlesDo you have drawings?
Ok, You need to issue a Warning ⚠️, Warning ⚠️, Will Robinson! Before diving into these sorts of tools... Bibs are needed to catch all the drule !!!
James, how many cutters are in a complete set? I seen a reproduction
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
It depends on what type age. There are 8 in the smallest set but over time they made a total of 12 irons for it.
@ralhmcc47
Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo James what was / is the angle of the blade ? 22.5?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
About 22°-ish. You can be off at a degree or two and still be okay and even more on the smaller irons.
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Cool tool
How hard would it be to make an iron for it?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
Not terribly difficult but a little more time consuming than it would be for a 45. You have to bevel the sides as well as the edge.
Lets have the 100% geek video! 🤓 😂
... What do you get if you multiply six by nine?...
When I sharpen small blades like that I were bandades because I sharpen the skin off my fingers
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
I use to have that problem with water and oil stones, but I have not had it with diamonds
No46 looking at 45, 50 and 55: We are even now.
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I noticed a leather boot on your holdfast. I want to make one for my holdfast. Do you have any advice on the type of leather I should use, rough side or smooth out, and anything else that you think is useful? Thanks
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
It's all up to you. Some people like the rough side of some people like the smooth side out it really doesn't make any difference. As the leather and all depends on what you want to sew with. Usually the thicker the better.
DON'T PANIC
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
I refuse to panic. I have a towel!
@Dermot-tv6fb
Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo never forget to bring a towel
Why did he like such odd width grooves?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
I am not sure what you are saying. they came in 1/8" increments. but congrats on first!
@alangknowles
Ай бұрын
There's no 3/4" nor 1"@@WoodByWrightHowTo
@ralhmcc47
Ай бұрын
He's is a groovy guy!!
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
Oh lol I see what you are saying.
@CrimeVid
Ай бұрын
You would find that knife cutting first would help the cut across the grain less hairy !
Or is the question. How much pocket money are you allowed to spend? But the only answer is 42 for sure. LOL.
Making those skewed irons yourself should not require that advanced metal working skills, just get some high carbon steel bar in the right thickness and cut them out, file the most of the material away for the bevel, heat treat and grind the rest of the bevel.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
Ай бұрын
It's not complicated it's just a good bit of work as you also have to bevel the sides
@quickerways2965
Ай бұрын
Only the inner side requires a bevel- the outer side can be square cut - woods for me, anyway. The bevel is a bit steeper that skew an angle - acts as a cutting edge to help keep rebate walls square.. cheers
@quickerways2965
Ай бұрын
Expanding slightly, when I made the bevels I used a cubitron flap disk high grit- bevel appeared in seconds. The refined the leading edge on may shaping stones. In did leave to sharp on edge on the upper part of the blades- paid a blood price for that as the finger rests on the one of the upper corners when planing- ouch..