I have never felt so heard in my life before. The problem is, if you are not in a precarious position yourself, it's nigh impossible to empathize with it. You will hear them out and offer support, but you cannot shake the feeling their security is attainable to everyone. It's false, of course, but by the time you're in the position yourself, it's too late. To everyone in doubt, believe this man's description of the precariat. It is real and it is devastating - both personally and socially.

What's the name of the guy standing?

@WazigeLogica

6 жыл бұрын

It's Guy Standing ;-) You're welcome

@adriandautovic9091

6 жыл бұрын

LMFO

@dandavis4469

5 жыл бұрын

@@WazigeLogica I like what this guy is standing for.

@maxinespirit6215

5 жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@stvdiascholastica4599

5 жыл бұрын

His biggest critic is called Guy Sittingdown.

I moved from his precariat to his salariat, but the anger stays with you. It would be a choice to give up that anger, and I don't want to.

I'm in the process of reading his book. He's a phenomenal writer and goes into deep analysis about this new and growing sector of society [the Precariat].

@kennethmorrison3096

5 жыл бұрын

Me too...

@Coneman3

5 жыл бұрын

It's the best book in the genre I have so far read. He's a very clever man with great integrity and insight.

@mahadomar7039

4 жыл бұрын

@@Coneman3 and he is great at standing too

@incognitocas

Жыл бұрын

We're all living in a global pathocracy and all the nation's federal governments are a kleptocracy. The last 2 draconian years should make this abundantly clear.

One of my favorites philosophers and humanitarians. This man, Guy...thank you for keeping us up to date with what needs to be done as the distraction update themselves to make us think there is no way to improve our lives. Thank you for combating the toxicity or doubt and deception.

I just stumbled on this guy while working on my dissertation...I am amazed I have never heard of this man before. I wish objectivists and laissez faire economists would listen to this gentleman.

Totally respect this guy for nailing such a serious current problem. Can't help feeling the elites would like to get rid of him. He speak dangerous truths.

More people need to see this. This man speaks with Passion with a capital P.

He's a great speaker. I'm currently reading his book "the plunder of the commons"

This Guy is a social scientist with helpful commentaries, all stemmed from truth and love. I also believe that life is dog-eat-dog at a level, but if we are to evolve, we need to listen to Guy.

Im not a leftist guy and this man makes nothing but sense to me.

@Coneman3

5 жыл бұрын

Makes me think of 2 films, V for Vendetta and Good Will Hunting.

@JeremyPong

4 жыл бұрын

if you dont agree with a global free market, you are, by definition - a leftist

@capitandelnorte

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeremyPong no market is free as long as all markets are not free. Per definition we do not have a global free market because of tariffs etc. I am pro private enterprises, but also pro regulation. You should not have to be a leftist to believe that market forces left completely un-checked tend to monopolize markets, and not create beneficial circumstances for the consumer/people.

@rotemberliner9756

4 жыл бұрын

well, that means you should be a leftist guy...

@mansur_ali

2 жыл бұрын

Because sense is not tied to ideologies

Absolutely spirited spot on lecture

This is where neoliberal dogma has placed the world! I feel a job guarantee combined with a basic income is essential and governments need to be more active in this role as well!

@Coneman3

5 жыл бұрын

I disagree, I think a UBI would give us greater control over our labour.

@MephLeo

5 жыл бұрын

@@Coneman3 I can give an indirect testimony of how UBI could positively impact lives, especially of the poorest people. I'm from Brazil. Here, when an income program tied with children's school attendance got implemented for the poorest of the poor, you could hear the middle class and the elites openly complain. One of the biggest claims was that "now it's not easy to find workers to do menial tasks for small pay, because the poor became lazy, they don't want to work anymore", to which I always responded "it's not that they became lazy, it's that they became independent from your exploitation, pay them better and they'll surely work". Never heard a single reply.

@donpaulmoore4703

2 жыл бұрын

OMG dude. More government =less liberty

@davidmarandola4716

Жыл бұрын

@@donpaulmoore4703 less government = more exploitation; it's my opinion that with less government there is an illusion of freedom, your still being controlled by the upper class in every conceivable way; the 1% would determine how much you would be paid (which would be less because its in their best interest for profits), the cost of food and rent (which would be more because its in their best interest for profits) and what politicians got the most funding, thus greatly influencing your political choice. Look at Norway vs. the USA and tell me which citizens have more liberty and a better quality of life.

@trevorloughlin1492

Жыл бұрын

@@donpaulmoore4703 The opposite is true because the mega-corporation's are now your masters. Which is even worse than big government, because they are accountable to no-one.

Brilliant ! Tank you Guy Stranding !

Wow! He is so spot on!

They should have given the "Guy" a "Standing" ovation.

The only problem is everyone sitting there are not the precariat so will not feel an ounce of compulsion.

@mansur_ali

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! Probably most of them are upper-middle class at the least, so I would not expect them to have problems with this. It's a distant concept for them and mostly virtual than real.

I've just realised I'm in the progressive faction of the precariat.

@pimwiersinga8822

6 жыл бұрын

'Me too'...!

@luciernagas5661

6 жыл бұрын

me too

@whotelakecity2001

6 жыл бұрын

I'm progressive (my outlooks) all right but I don't fit into this box just right as others describe me somewhat as well- my parents had social status and a label but I don't; I have no home and I migrated more than once and may again: last but not least, no university education

@giulianatiripelli848

5 жыл бұрын

that's all in your name - good luck

@Tess78uk

3 жыл бұрын

Andi Flintoff hey fellow precariat! There are lots of us!

Got the book. It is absolutely terrifying.

Great talk

I really appreciated this talk. His brief analysis hits true and hard. We need to keep expressing & hearing this knowledge in current narrative so that it is alive for those coming up after us; not everyone is gonna read Marx. But wtf is up with keeping the idea of “income” around at all? Why don’t people in a region simply provide everyone in that region the basic provisions for a secure existence. We need a solidarity economy. Not a monthly payment to sustain the unsustainable.

Watched from 2021, things become even worse.

This was fabulous

amazing

Guy Speaking

@jameslucena1020

3 ай бұрын

Mann Splaining

took me a while to realise that's his actual name

Definition of Precariat 2:21

youtube algo needs to pump this up

2018 se termine. Toujours pas de RE en France. Comment expliquer ce phénomène ? Comment est-ce possible ?

outSTANDING performance

Buenisimo

Somewhat wasted on the ted talk audience and middle-class youtube. But his words are frighteningly accurate.

interesting discussion. Any predictions on when the "progressive" precariats will actually get represented or be able to make changes for the better? I read in one Dr Standing's articles about 7 or 8 years ago around 2013 that about 15% of the population is in the precariat. What is that figure now, and how does that/will that likely affect what is to come? So far it seems to be only the atavist part of the precariat that are making any changes to the political landscape. Considering the traditional Social Democrats parties such as Labour don't seem to appeal to the precariat, do you see any progressive parties or organizations that represent the interests of the precariat)?

Just read grapes of wrath

Without draconian rent controls and a return of good quality social housing, greedy private landlords would simply snatch the extra basic income. If this factor was accounted for, basic income would be a good idea. Under the criminalized benefits system, people are being bundled into low skilled jobs to avoid sanctions. And they stay in these jobs rather than take the risk of trying for something more skilled, since if they fail, they will fall into the criminalized system again. I have to say that Guy Standing is a phenomenal communicator and needs to go into politics and replace Keir Starmer!

This is a very interesting topic, but perhaps a little less relevant for countries where social mobility is high? Although several of those countries are moving in the same direction, slowly but surely...

The crowd at the end is so undiverse XD

All people and all life need to be valued for they are and not measured by money.

Omg he's at Ted.

Yang 2020

This may sound to simple but, all Nations should agree to simply create the necessary resources through the banking sectors where all nations would make adjustments in all national accounts to cover it for all it's citizens based off the current needs for food, clothing and shelter. Money is just a set of numbers to represent value - just make an adjustment worldwide. On employment and the unemployed, this gives people time to gain new skills or their could be 3 day work shifts adding more workers to work the other 3 - 4 day shift . This would boost all economies with the added needs of additional consumers in the marketplace allowing for added production and innovation.

@paneko1

6 жыл бұрын

The problem of impossibility of idea you presented is lying in unwillingness of those in power (modern economies, in which national currency is fiat money, established and created by government) to do so. Good schools everywhere would be the easiest task to start with.

@billykobilca6321

6 жыл бұрын

R Jones Do yourself a favor, call....label and describe the banking sector as the BANKING CARTEL. and now, look up the definition of CARTEL.

@tjwukitsch6505

6 жыл бұрын

Or just get rid of money and declare the earth common heritage. Develop a system in the mean time while we sort out how to do that, which keeps track of resource NEEDS and calls for the distribution of these resources equitably (not equally). We then engineer abundance and can grow our aspirations. This would of course take a long time and a restructuring of how we think about borders, one anther, waste, responsibility, efficiency, luxury and necessity. This economy is a resource based economy. It could be developed with appropriate fail-safes.

Anyone here from Calbel?

coolest name ever?

Anyone up for building a party of the precariat then?

I’ve tried to think about rating drivers since we all have stories of people cutting us off or riding our bumper. But I couldn’t get around the issue that the only ratings you would get are negative ones. The closest thing I cane up with was to count negative reviews and grade them based on time/consistency. I think we can make better @/platforms and better systems. The ratings system has to do with customer satisfaction. If you want return customers then you want well rated riders. However a lot of these platforms don't encourage ratings especially for food delivery. Most customers don't rate. So when you do get ratings you get dinged. We need to be fair to both sides of the equation: customers and riders! And it shouldn't just be the rider telling the customer "please rate me", the platform needs to do its part too. I personally think the rating system is unfair to riders and have considered scrapping it. Please understand that the workers are vulnerable to the customer's whims. However we do need to value customer ratings as well... let's re-think this one! World isn't fair just like in nature, fortunately humans are very good at adapting to their environment

Words are good but we need to put words in to action!

Things have gotten 100 times worst since this video.

Hi. Why don't you have the subtitles in Spanish?

06:34 The Roma(ni)

Yep, everybody did lose rationality. Nail on the head

guy do be standing ngl

That's what heppend in France now

Who's standing?

I think the title should rather say Guy Spittingfactsfortwelveminutesstraightwhilestanding

OK, there is nothing new under the sun. Marx explained class struggle and class division years ago: It was Marx who had first discovered the great law of motion of history, the law according to which all historical struggles, whether they proceed in the political, religious, philosophical or some other ideological domain, are in fact only the more or less clear expression of struggles of social classes, and that the existence and thereby the collisions, too, between these classes are in turn conditioned by the degree of development of their economic position, by the mode of their production and of their exchange determined by it. This law, which has the same significance for history as the law of the transformation of energy has for natural science. Engels, Preface to The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1885) What's happening is that the world at large has entered a new epoch, a second gilded age that's occurring on a global level. ‘The longer you can look back, the farther you can look forward’.” -Winston Churchill Churchill is right and if you want to see how the future will shape up just read about the 1st gilded age in the United States. Mr. Standing keeps repeating the word "new" throughout his lecture , but history just repeats itself, there is nothing "new". Also, he plays to the notion of the "progress of mankind" as if the world can be improved upon and made to be just, fair, and equitable. This is a fallacy. Also, he claims that the ruling class is worried about how things are shaping up. Worried ? Are you kidding me ? The ruling class shapes and controls all aspects of society. Plus, the masses are just mindless herd animals that will instinctively follow the dictates of some outspoken leader and this will never change. Like I said, the world doesn't change, it only changes form.

@MissArbie

4 жыл бұрын

Should check out David Rushkoff's talks or read Team Human. The billionaires are scared because they don't know how they are going to maintain power once the world is scarce and money is pointless. They really are scared.

@DrMjenno

4 жыл бұрын

Marx never faced neoliberal globalisation, which is where we are now. In part, the captialists responded to the successes (such as they were) of the Marxists in the nineteenth and twentieth century with the system Standing is describing in the first part of this video.

He shouldnt have neglected the global south, were precariousness is a norm

@Taladar2003

5 жыл бұрын

If precariousness affects entire nations of people there are really two options for the cause. Either a) they just don't produce enough of worth to fulfil their citizens basic needs, e.g. due to poor natural resources or b) the profits are funnelled elsewhere. In the first case they could benefit from richer countries becoming less hostile to immigration, which only happens if the poorer people there feel secure in having their own needs fulfilled. In the second case they could benefit from having the power of the rich who likely are likely at the receiving end of those profits reduced.

@AliceYobby

3 жыл бұрын

I think he lumps them in with the "lumpen " dying on the streets

Well good analysis into the Boomer community

He should not have been right in scome points - in some even more. We need a movement against this. Iam tired of being ruled by a fearful part of society. Social unequality is at it's peak! Who is in to work against this?

Isn’t rising precariat is a result of declining ability of governments to care of people more than their geopolitics and their own surroundings?

Let us travel a few centuries ahead of us and let us talk about socialism-marxism.Let us find the light.

he's definitely standing

I wonder if there is a TED Talk speaker workshop that people go to, because they all speak in the same way. I find it weird.

@MissArbie

4 жыл бұрын

It's called "KZread"

2019 and its only getting worse

Selfish Republicans will be seething when they get wind of this.

His analysis is extraordinary. His solution, however, is a nonstarter.

He lives up to his name. Techniy, he can go by the name "Guy Vertically planking"

Reply all brought me here

8:50 “We need to fight for a basic income for every man, every woman, and every child in our society. It is affordable without a doubt. It is not going to do the things the critics say. Because we do want to improve our lives. So if you have a basic income you will not become lazy. We have done pilots in various countries. And people who have basic income work more not less. And when they work they’re more productive not less. A basic income encourages the good virtues of any decent human being. People who have basic security are more altruistic than others. They’re more tolerant of others. They feel more inclined to engage in society as a human being and as a citizen. It is something that brings out the good qualities of the human being. We need to move in that direction because without security and without building a system with everybody having security the inequalities and insecurities will increase the probability that someone like Donald Trump will win at some stage. Because too many people will be suffering from insecurity and losing the capacity to be rational. That is a real fear we should all have. But we want to create a better society. A basic income would promote security. It would also give us a greater sense of control over our time. We need a politics of time for the 21st Century. We need to enable people to feel in control of their time. To have a slow time movement. Where you indulge not just in your labor but in different forms of work: caring for your frail relatives, or your children, or your community. This sense of control of time is something that any good civilized society should want everybody to have.

I know hes standing just tell he his god damn name already

He is married th Lady Sitting

Funny that the only google image of this dude is of him sitting

The problem with the progressive precariat is that they can not produce ANY goods valuable for the other people, while they obviously need to consume goods produced by others. When you pay for something, you expect to recieve some concrete product/service. Nobody will pay you because you have finished some college or had a great marks at school. You can sell your skills as an employee or an enterprenuer. But precarists dont have one to sell. They could become a carpenter, plumber or fix cars, but that kind of life "doesn't fit their ambitions". So they are still in point, and we should not pay them for free, but should teach them some profession and send to work.

@Magnet977

4 жыл бұрын

The issue arises that no group has any interest in training the precariat or even acknowledging their existence because they want them for cheap, exploitable labor and as to use as a threat that can be used. The old truth that college was necessary for a good job transformed into a scam to make a few rich and get people in massive debt as a means to create this class for that very reason. As for the trades and other such jobs for retraining they still won't provide anywhere near the necessary income despite the massive amount of fake stories people try to sell about making lots of money as a plumber or an electrician. Like the college shuffle before it, it'll wind up being just another way for a few to make money off the desperate. The precariat are both the ones being tortured and the ones who have the greatest capacity to affect inevitable change that the world faces. The question becomes will they even care enough about the world to try and save it, or merely destroy it out of spite and rage.

@abdaici3370

Жыл бұрын

Some thinkers said: profit means destroying, it is thermodynamic paradigm

Why is it snowing on stage?

If you've paid off your student debt are you still a progressive of the precariat?

türk gençlerini anlatıyor...

@nhl6561

3 жыл бұрын

Nasıl yani

@rabiaaslan2783

3 жыл бұрын

Zaten yaptığı bir konuşmasında türk gençleri olduğunu da bahsetmişti

Guy Standing standing

I like the idea, though I disagree with some of the given justifications for it. (And I think there are some other good ones, unmentioned.) But some evidence needs to be offered, that it works. There was the mention of pilot programs. How did they work. Details, statistics. Outline the studies. For example, what gets people to do the undesirable jobs if we have a base income anyway? Who decides he'll go out and clean public toilets for fun? Is base income adjusted for number of children? If so, is there a limit to the number of allowed children? Also, it didn't work that well in China, Cube, the Soviet Union. How is this version different? In America, our founding fathers were rich, and they put checks in place to prevent the less wealthy majority from simply voting to liberate the rich of their property. These checks make Robyn Hood legislation... difficult. I think you need to invoke some of the concepts in and surrounding Bertram Russel's "In Defense of Leisure." You'll have to get the rich to expect to benefit from the arrangement. I think a plausible argument could be made. But I don't think you've made it. Those are hard questions, but I still think we should try it. Btw, how do I get in on one of the pilot programs?

@ShakinJamacian

7 жыл бұрын

I believe looking up Standing's works on this topic should help illuminate the concern of pilot programs. He's had his hand in almost every major pilot program of the last 30 years. He's supervised the pilot Y Combinator is going in Oakland, California. For starters, I believe Standing wrote a book on the changes and outcomes of the pilots he oversaw in India, which went so swimmingly the government is entertaining making it national.

@Soul-Burn

7 жыл бұрын

Links to programs and a ton more information can be seen here www.reddit.com/r/BasicIncome/wiki/index People clean streets for low salaries now because otherwise they won't have food to eat. If these jobs are still needed, their salaries would have to rise considerably, to what they are really worth, or be automated. Make the jobs more desirable - e.g higher salary, better conditions, and more people will want to do them for their own merit, not because they have to. Most UBI schemes talk about a smaller allowance for children rather than adults, but it's still an open subject. Basic Income was *never* done in China, Cuba or the Soviet Union. In these communist countries, you got specific things, not cash, and hardly keep your freedom. With Basic Income, you get a *cash* transfer and still keep private money. With this cash you can buy what *you* want, not what the country thinks you want.

@paneko1

7 жыл бұрын

While we have billionaires with sick amounts of ill got money and will never fairly pay taxes, we are offered UBI. After that the whole world is going to change into the ghetto: first nice houses of project, then consciousness about no possibility to ever change it into something better, then destruction.

@BicycleFunk

6 жыл бұрын

What?

@keithparker1346

6 жыл бұрын

I think you are confusing dictatorship with ubi somehow. If it was such a bad idea why are even right wingers looking at it?

Guy Standing speaking (2017)

Motivation, not being lazy, is not the critical issue here. The critical issue is competency. People can not be productive unless they are competent. Unfortunately about 10% of Americans are low enough in competency as to be unemployable in any line of work. Providing them with UBI will ensure an increase in their numbers and little else.

The "electric theory" & the existence of Intelligent Extra Terrestrials should be considered seriously. This should provoke even more curiosity about "our" existence on this planet.

lol guy standing

A childs security is the responsibility of the parents not the state.

Guy Spitting

Sounds like modern Marx

The global population has only been able to rise due to the intervention of competent countries in the lives of the citizens of incompetent countries. Those 3rd world nations. To prevent further imbalance all foreign aid should immediately be withdrawn from historically incompetent countries. Let them stand or fall on their own merits. Either way it is clear that "lifeboat ethics" has run a ground.

7:06 yes I can. People explode in rage because they're taught that they're entitled to a certain standard of living despite people, and this includes the unskilled, having more than at any time in history.

I don’t know man. What he calls precariot we used to just call functional schizophrenic. Good luck selling that as a class substrata. LMFAO!!!🤣

The idea sounds like communism in a smaller way...

@AliceYobby

3 жыл бұрын

That's called socialism..

Debating socialism is a luxury brought to you courtesy of capitalism. Think about that. Redistributing wealth will not do a god damn thing for the average person. We need to think of ways to get people in a better position to generate their own wealth.

@Kriskazam

5 жыл бұрын

Socialism is supposed to emerge from capitalism so idk what you're talking about...

@aubreywilliam9048

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Smith that thing is socialism

@MijmerMopper

5 жыл бұрын

''Redistributing wealth will not do a god damn thing for the average person.'' It's not harmfull to the average person that wealth flows to where it is least needed and most abundant?

@nickwilsonxc

5 жыл бұрын

The whole point of a basic income is to get people in a better position to generate their own wealth. It’s hard to worry about a career when you’re already homeless, starving, no healthcare, etc.

@dopaminecloud

2 жыл бұрын

It is impossible to achieve this if you keep up a population growth. There simply mathematically cannot be good circumstances for all under perpetual growth. Don't have kids if you wish to start seeing improvement down the line or be quiet and lay in your bed of deprivation.

he predicted trump winning

@maureenmergen1634

11 ай бұрын

That shocked me.

Progressive talk....

If a person does not first demonstrate the means to support themselves. Then they should not be allowed to procreate additional obligations which will end up being the responsibility of taxpayers.

@andysomerville669

3 жыл бұрын

nice eugenics bro

@DaveWard-xc7vd

3 жыл бұрын

@@andysomerville669 What your solution be?

if this dude geniuenly believes basic income would make people more productive then he's never met a turkish person

@ASA-gx4ox

3 жыл бұрын

Açıklarmısın

@beyzanurkoymen8124

3 жыл бұрын

@@ASA-gx4ox bu ülkede sadece barınma+yiyecek ücretini karşılayacak kadar para herkese dağıtılsa sadece vu maaşla sümük gibi yaşamayı isteyecek en az 20 milyon insan var

@mansur_ali

2 жыл бұрын

@@beyzanurkoymen8124 hâlihazırda içinde yaşadıkları durum zaten sürüngenlik olduğundan olabilir mi? 30 günlük emeğin $280 olduğu yerde sen bu maaşı yukarı çekmeden insanlara $200 verirsen çalışmazlar tabi. İçinde yaşadığınız sosyal gerçekliğe karşı bu kadar kör olmayın, insanlar hak ettiği değeri görmediği sürece bu toplum iki karış ileri gidemez.

Universal Basic Income is not affordable. UBI can only be accomished by taking the fruits of the efforts of competent people and giving them to incompetent people. This practice will put dysgenic pressure on society. Just as welfare does now.

@sebas8225

4 жыл бұрын

I´ve also been thinking on how it´ll affect business investments too, it could make it all go haywire.

He wants to "take back" resources from worlds billionaires. Those resources are their assets and those assets were accumulated through voluntary exchanges. The workers have no claim to the profits of their employers beyond what was negotiated and mutually agreed upon.

@DaveWard-xc7vd

5 жыл бұрын

@S S Where do you think the money to fund UBI will come from? Do you understand the meaning of wealth redistribution?

@DaveWard-xc7vd

5 жыл бұрын

@S S You always have a choice.

Me : "huh precariat? i've never heard of that one" looks up definition : "this... this is just the working class american.. oh"

6:22 Capitalism is a NIGHTMARE... now buy my book when this talk is over? 😂

@LowestofheDead

3 жыл бұрын

If he had a Basic Income he could give out free eBooks. But under Neoliberalism (not capitalism) you have to sell yourself to exist.

You deserve to stay poor if you take this guy serious

@rylle3404

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Please, enlighten us then, what are the growing classes of precariat suppose to do?

@Bldkkr

3 жыл бұрын

Learn how to spend less money then you earn. Don't fall into the trap that you 'need' stuff. Everything around us is designed with the goal to take our money. I never owned a car, instead I saved for 15 years and bought an apartment

@rylle3404

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bldkkr I agree with several part of your respons. For example the systems design of consumtion and that society really can't aid a person who is irresponisble with his or hers money. But the situation of the precariate class is not about those aspects. For example, if i respond to the situation of you buying the apartment after years of responsible saving. What if you one day would lose your job, woulden't you lose your apartment aswell in the long run? Alot of people today don't have jobs that provide a stable income and foreseable future. They work in industries that don't provide security for the future. They can be replaced at a moments notice, they live in a constant state of insecurity and anxiety for the future. And it's not a quick fix problem since its built into the system wich they live in.

@BrickworksDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bldkkr "Learn how to spend less money then you earn." Can't really argue with the sentiment behind that. But reality is somewhat different. When I moved to where I'm currently living, rent was about 1/4 of what I had available income, which I figured was well within my means even if I fell on hard times for a while. I haven't even lived here a decade, but the rent is slowly creping towards 1/3 of my available income. And I see no signs that this is ever going to be reversing. And it's not just rent that's increasing. Food has gone up as well. As have insurance, internet, and other expenses. And actually getting a house of my own has turned out to be a pipe dream. Even if negative interest rates and the current inflation weren't eating my meagre savings at a frightening rate, housing prices are going up way faster than I can put money aside. Point being, to put it bluntly, that you can do everything right and still fall behind.

There is nothing wrong with the income distribution system. There is something wrong with people who do not take the initiatives necessary to ensure that they will have a marketable skill that will earn them a descent living. Instead they see their employers as responsible for paying them a "living wage" despite their low skills.

@DaveWard-xc7vd

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Caine Yes. The individuals are responsible, not the system. Nature is perfectly capable of taking care of those who can not take care of themselves if man will just stop interfering.

@mel3256

5 жыл бұрын

It has be proven that as digital technology has advanced, we have eliminated and will continue to eliminate millions of jobs, and holding back innovation by legislating corporations have rights like humans, and extreme intellectual property rights. - In case you did not know, the human population continues to grow. What should millions of people who will never get a job because computers and robots do most jobs do in the future?

@sebas8225

4 жыл бұрын

@@mel3256 And yet we also get other jobs being created up at the same time, sure some jobs get terminated but others are created, thats reality, society will adapt to the changes in the job market one way or another.

He has Trump derangement syndrome. Trump has demonstrated his high level of competency. He appeals to other competent people who like him see the folly of allowing millions of incompetent people into America. If these new arrivals were as competent as they want us to believe they are then 71% of them would not be recieving social welfare payments.

@Magnet977

4 жыл бұрын

Competence is not determined by geographical location, nor is it determined by ideology.