What IS The Hit Era Production Bible?
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The HiT Era Production Bible.
When this first leaked online back in 2022, it was…weeeeell…not great. We’d just gotten a TON of unused footage from the classic series, and so seeing this was less exciting, and more…frustrating, at least for some. With Thomas fans tweeting already tweeting it into oblivion, I figured it would be fun to throw my own two cents in there, with a friendo along for the ride.
This…is the result. I hope you enjoy it!
By the way, if you haven't heard, Thomas Theorist already MADE a video about this document...which you should watch...watch it a lot - • Why This Bible DESTROY...
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The fact they call these heavy death machines children in a playground and the way the way they explain how the engines look and act pisses me off so much
Personally, I think the Hit style guide really shows just how much that era was missing the main thing I think makes Thomas so great: respect. Awdry respected his audience and his subject matter deeply, Alcroft respected her audience and mostly respected her subject matter, Brenner respected the subject matter and his audience as much as Mattel let him, and their eras with the IP were good because of it. Between all the grammatical mistakes, the way they dumbed down the characters, and the way that they were constantly comparing the characters to children that the people writing this style guide had no respect for the IP or their audience, and were just using Thomas's popularity to make a kids show for kids, and nothing else.
@fanofeverything30465
Жыл бұрын
What's IP
@williamhumes7332
Жыл бұрын
HIT Entertainment is just so cynical these days.
@BreakingNuyt
Жыл бұрын
@@fanofeverything30465 IP stands for Intellectual Property.
@bow-tiedengineer4453
Жыл бұрын
@@fanofeverything30465 It's short for "intellectual property". Basically the Thomas brand, all the stuff that Hit and later Mattel bought the rights to.
@fanofeverything30465
Жыл бұрын
@@BreakingNuyt Thank you 😊
At least they mentioned that Edward and Henry were both crucial to the series, even if they were easy to overlook. I gotta give them credit for at least recognizing that.
@AutZentus
Жыл бұрын
Too bad their characterization was butchered so badly that it's been how they were since the mid 2000's in the official show.
@ScottMalkinsonisW
Ай бұрын
Edward I’d say after the hit era was kinda done well in the nitrogen era outside of seaosn 14 and the brenner era did him well and Henry had some bright spots in the hit and brenner era I’d say
If I remember correctly, Godred the Impailer was a Wilbert Awdry invention that he put in the Island of Sodor book. He's also the King that Gordred the engine was named after. For the 99 things this bible gets wrong, at least they have 1 that shows they know what Thomas is.
'Supposedly based on the Isle of Man'. Isle of Man resident here and I can confirm the Island of Sodor was based off the Isle of Man. Our bishop is known as the Bishop of Sodor & Mann.
@ethandouro4334
Жыл бұрын
Ain't the minor Isles around Man also called "Sudrian"?
@eslm-studios2996
Жыл бұрын
@@ethandouro4334 There aren't any other islands around the Isle of Man. There is the Calf of Man just beyond the south west point of the island, but there aren't any other islands around Mann.
@NitroIndigo
Жыл бұрын
Apparently Sodor is an old name for the small, western British Isles? Is this true?
@eslm-studios2996
Жыл бұрын
@@NitroIndigo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Sodor_and_Man
@theenigmaticst7572
Ай бұрын
@@NitroIndigo Yes, you're right - actually Old Norse for "Southern Isles" (Sudroyar) which would be roughly the islands off Scotland (which were once ruled by Norway), and probably the Mull of Kintyre, too.
sad to see youtube is punishing you, because "YOU'RE TAKING SO LONG. WE NEED QUANTITY NOT QUALITY!" it's sad to see the algorithm do that...
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
Ehh, what are you gonna do, right? I’d rather take a while making something great rather than rush a video out. The first season of the Analyzation Express felt like a step back in terms of production for me. Not saying I hated doing it, but I much prefer making something like THIS.
@danielferrovias
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayDontPause But hey, there's an old railroad saying here in my country that reads out like this: "But hey, those bones of the workplace"
@danielferrovias
Жыл бұрын
basically "Part of the job"
@Thatspuremental
Жыл бұрын
Nah man your wrong we quality not quantity id rather watch a five second masterpiece that took a month to make than a 40 minute drag that was done in an hour
@danielferrovias
Жыл бұрын
@@Thatspuremental do you know what " " means?
Well, the descriptions of Edward and Henry certainly explain a lot (they even lampshade the intention was to barely use them). The one that sounds kind of right is Henry being vain but out of insecurity, though it's ironically a characteristic they seldom use in the Hit era.
the steam team's age: thomas-107 edward-127 henry-103 gordon-102 james-110 percy-125 toby-108 emily-127
@chukowiley3823
Жыл бұрын
Is Gordon canonically 2 years older than The Flying Scotsman?
@marklincovet509
Жыл бұрын
@@chukowiley3823 yep
@chukowiley3823
Жыл бұрын
@@marklincovet509 any reason why?
@zyancuerdo1615
Жыл бұрын
@chuko Wiley gordon is the prototype of the entire a1/a3 class in the railway series so he's bound to be older than scotsman
@tudorbrancuturcu5996
Ай бұрын
So Gordon’s the youngest engine in the original steam team. Explains his personality
“On Sodor, trains are powered by steam” Every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Africa.
I laughed all the way through this, and the editing is top-notch.
17:28 I knackered myself reading that fast 😂
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
You think YOU were tired? I spent almost a whole day making that segment /s.
@usualblokeluke
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayDontPause I deeply apologise for that 😂😂😂
17:41 the private collectors bidding on Toby
David Mitton wouldn’t have been pleased with the direction the series went after season seven
@Thomasmemoryscentral
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that 2008 marked not only the last full model production using the original style in The Great Discovery but also the losses of Mitton and Carlin
6:02: the "Well there's nothing more recognizable than, literally the same place," is peak comedy
8:55 Meanwhile, Topham in the original series lets Henry rest in the shed because he knows he's sick and in no condition to work.
Idk why but I love how Luke always calls seasons, ''series''. He is the only one I know that does that and its charming
@fanofeverything30465
Жыл бұрын
It's probably because he's British where as most Thomas fan channels are American
@harogenkitnsg2474
Жыл бұрын
here in the UK we usually use series rather than seasons
@chocsise
Жыл бұрын
Well he is british
12:23 You kid, but the Marklin Engine's rusted husk appears in Blue Mountain Mystery. He's canonically dead.
Big fan of your channel and Usual Bloke Luke, love seeing you guys collab to tear…whatever tf this bible is apart. Cheers, lads!
Man I got huge internet historian vibes from this video, and I absolutely loved it. Wouldn't mind seeing more of these types of videos. Maybe reacting to episodes or fan stories?
3:50 Luke goes foreign 😂
12:23 Oh yeah by the washdown area I remember seeing in Thomas' Day Off Season 9.
If talking trains were real, I can honestly imagine the engines hating the show after Hit Entertainment bought the TV series. That also means, many of them never resumed liking the series after Mattel bought it and brought fans to write the show because of how their proper personalities are never revived and have their personalities from the Hit Era, it's so obvious that they were still applying that goddamn bible. It's so sad. Some engines probably do like the Brennersaince, but many of them don't. This is my speculation. Too bad talking trains don't exist.
@NitroIndigo
Жыл бұрын
I mean, Thomas & Friends canonically exists as a show in the Railway Series universe, so...
@thegamingwolfkingofthemult37
Жыл бұрын
@@NitroIndigo That would be something I would love to see, The RWS versions debating about the show.
@sericsmith5770
3 ай бұрын
@@thegamingwolfkingofthemult37 I sometimes wonder what the American locomotives would think about all of this. I could only imagine the steam locomotives and even some diesels reactions to the reboot. I don't think even they would like it.
When I saw the Thumbnail I was like “oh boy here we go again” I already hear from the usual Bloke Luke and now here I go again.
@clown-cult96
Жыл бұрын
Eyyy fellow Luke watcher!
@fanofeverything30465
Жыл бұрын
I watch Usual Bloke Luke too
"Please do not shit pant" That's not a promise I can make
17:25 *Gordon Goes Foreign derailment be like*
You know what’s really upsetting? The educational concepts laid out in this bible and show aren’t bad, the problem is how they’re spelled out and simplified, like kids couldn’t recognize the name of a location on Sodor unless it was repeated like Knapford Station, Gordon’s Hill, Lord Callan’s Castle, or the color and number of an engine when it’s obvious on screen. Kids are much smarter than you think! It feels like one of those beginner books that they make you read in kindergarten with simplified short sentences, but worse. Surprisingly, “boomed” isn’t on the vocab list, I know that was a word they LOVED using whenever Sir Topham Hatt was on screen. It makes me wonder if they actually tested this new format with kids?
12:02 Gordon Goes Foreign (Russia) XD That just came to my mind on my latest rewatch. And gosh! I laughed for at least 5 minutes for that.
19:19 I think I'M about to shit myself, that's so funny.
I think the "fabulously narcissistic" description for James is the most accurate thing when it comes to character traits
Oooooof. yeah. I'm getting feelings that this was written by Americans who were trying to bringing back the pre-school crowd by using a lot of the characterizations of Shining Time DESPITE the show having been off the air for what, 5-10 years at that point? A lot of the character descriptions sound like American pre-school type shit and considering the bible keeps going back and forth between what I can assume is US and Canadian/UK spelling, maybe it was? I sort of having that keeping given how Edward and Gorden, the two 'adult' characters are treated because shitty pre-school shows are notorious for writing adult characters horribly.
@sericsmith5770
3 ай бұрын
Don't inherently blame the Americans for this. HiT was a British company after all. Then again, this is the kind of pandering stuff that had hindered western cartoons from reaching their full potential from the 70s 'till the 90s. Also after reading this entire comment, you may be right about the part of Americans writing this.
The Hit era wasn’t perfect, but it was a decent attempt at Thomas in the modern era. I had fond memories watching the Hit seasons, and there are some good episodes here and there.
@sericsmith5770
3 ай бұрын
As a child of the late 2000s and early 2010s, this was decent at best, but quite babyish at worst.
@alexc8726
2 ай бұрын
@@sericsmith5770but to be fair, this mostly aired on Sprout and PBS kids, and I feel like it fit pretty well being the intention
I say with little exaggeration that this is one of the most genuinely upsetting things I have ever read. It's nearly flawless and almost surgical destruction and decimation of a world that a man spent his entire creative life carefully building - and turning it into a dumb, unintelligent product to be bought and sold by corporations.
That intro was fire!!! 🔥🔥🔥
@PlayDontPause
7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was very proud of it once it was done!
@SP4449Railfan
7 ай бұрын
@@PlayDontPause You did an amazing Job! You deserve to be proud! 👍😁.
I just noticed the thumbnail of TomSka's Thomas video making a cameo.
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@marklincovet509
Жыл бұрын
so far, i've got enough to save me 96% off my order
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
If you can get 100% off your order...I think you win.
@marklincovet509
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayDontPause nice
Saw Thomas Theorist's video already, but gosh, that Bible is so terrible! 😫
Reasons why I consider seasons 6 and 7 to be in between new and classic series each
I may or may not be the 69th like 👏🗿 In all seriousness this video is absolutely incredible! It’s pretty interesting to see this show bible :)
I remembered this one since i was my age.
It’s been 1,000 years!
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
It was gonna be 998, but I wanted to add a little extra polish lol. Now that I know HOW to make one of these, I can only improve the pace!
I'm surprised you didn't mention there being two Diesels
Fantastic. Am I missing the Kaikki link?
5:48 the Hagsfiend hit the coach.
James is red, Wheels are round, The engines are like children in a playground.
@PlayDontPause
4 ай бұрын
James are Red, Thomas is Blue, A ballistic missile has been dispatched to their exact coordinates, And Edward's too.
Not based on the isle of man, it's inspired by many different railways, and sodor is between the isle of man and berrow-in-furness
High quality Thomas rant video 👌
Good video
23:34 - I don’t like Kaikii that much, once I got the breakdown train but the crane was broken off the flatbed. Also the Departing now Thomas I got was really fragile and one time I broke it. Totally Thomas town is much better
The only Thomas Bible I know is The Island of Sodor Its People, History, and Railways by the Rev. W. Awdry.
I think using Thomas and friends to teach navigation is really clever, why? Well, a train has to go to a certain place and the rails take it there and when you go somewhere you have to go a certain way or you will get lost.
Could you make part two to this video
@PlayDontPause
4 ай бұрын
Hmm...there's not MUCH more to talk about that hasn't already been said. Though, I do have another video in the same style, and ANOTHER other video coming out sometime soonish!
HiT era is peak Thomas
What exactly do you mean by “Season 7 was hastily put together in the US”? Doesn’t it require MORE time to compose all new music on top of a new narrator for a season instead of just reusing the same track?
@nathanbentley1939
Жыл бұрын
I think what they mean is that, in the US, season 7 had not been released prior to the season 8 format change, and since Thomas & Friends had generally been a year behind in the US prior to season 8, this meant that US version of season 7 was effectively rushed to release, and folded into season 8. Heck, I don't think we even got DVDs of season 7 until season 9 was releasing.
10:28 and Salty and Skarloey.
Edward should be on the main line. James should be a branchline engine. Edward is larger than James. The FR K2 was huge, while James is based on a 0-6-0 ffrom what is now LMS.
Ain't no way they described these engines as *children* Percy is the only one who i could see as one and even then, when written well not really.
Emily being bossy, and skarleoy being childish
Ok so the classic series bible is the Old Testament, Hit is the New Testament and the railway series is the Ten Commandments. Sorry. I go to a catholic school so I know this stuff.
@lyokianhitchhiker
Жыл бұрын
That’s a funny metaphor
This whole thing... Especially at 12:37, seems like it's written by a poorly configured AI 💀 Wow...
Finally, a new video
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
Only took…a month…whoops lol.
20:14 - I know why: Plot Coveniance
1:39 - Audio issue “Now tha- just” I’m not making fun of you, for making a mistake. We all make mistakes. I was just pointing out a little mistake
@PlayDontPause
8 ай бұрын
Good ear, but that’s actually not an audio error. That was just Luke stopping mid sentence to think about what he wanted to say.
@tudorbrancuturcu5996
8 ай бұрын
@@PlayDontPause Oh. But it still sounds a bit off
@tudorbrancuturcu5996
8 ай бұрын
Though I can relate to him, because I do that too.
Thomas is older than Gordon
12:02 *poop poop poop*
Why does one of the commentators sound like Ted Robbins?
HARVEY IS NOT BROWN?
I'm guessing this Thomas bible has the 4 engines of the apocalypse.
Does anyone know who exactly wrote this garbage. The script for Thomas.
@joshuaW5621
Жыл бұрын
Abi Grant most likely.
@supermariof0521
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaW5621 What makes you say that?
@joshuaW5621
Жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 I think I recall someone saying that when the Unlucky Tug was tweeting his thoughts on this Thomas bible.
@supermariof0521
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaW5621 I see
@Dripdagoat4life
Жыл бұрын
How was the script garbage?
I don't think those camp showers were for making money, I think they were punishment for being stupid and trying to do with a tent what should be done with a Caravan or Campervan.
That stupid book doomed a beloved show that could still be going today instead of that not Thomas reboot…and I swear the one who wrote the book had to be drunk because they so didn’t watch nor read what came before (or proofread)
my man can't pronounce "analogous"
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen that word before this video, and I’ll probably never see it again lol.
@ethandouro4334
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayDontPause Just say "amongus" but as "anologus"
The "For the love of f**k at 18:16 is where I broke. It was so out of nowhere and I love it!
@PlayDontPause
Жыл бұрын
I heard shapes and I was like 'yeah...no.' lol
@seancaffrey8153
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayDontPauseI mean, how tf can Thomas & Friends is meant to teach shapes? It don't make sense!
Season 8 is the only good season from the HIT era….
@Dripdagoat4life
Жыл бұрын
Ong s8 is better
@Thomasmemoryscentral
Жыл бұрын
Probably because it's the new beginnings season. Usually for dark periods of any good show, their first season into the downhill is smoother until they're really given the chance to mess up
There is a VERY special place in Hell for people who make these scummy corporate mandate checklists.
Personally, HiT Entertainment made so many choices which made David Mitton and crew have no creativity
Mf why u driving lamborghini centro
@PlayDontPause
8 ай бұрын
I dunno, why aren't you driving the lamborghini centro lol.
@tudorbrancuturcu5996
5 ай бұрын
@@PlayDontPauseHow much did you pay for that? Oh wait, it’s free since you took that picture from Google
The amount of typos in this is not even funny.
This bible is the most incorrect bible I’ve ever seen.