"The door to psychedelic use is down the hallway." Well said.

I left Christianity and have always had an interest in the occult. I think for me this is about development and creating to the divine once again.

@Sv3rige666

Жыл бұрын

Don’t mess with this stuff

@Someone_Important

Жыл бұрын

​@@Sv3rige666 You're not our real dad! Lol

@NEMOPMORPHY

Жыл бұрын

Anamnesis? It was okay for Plato why is it not okay for us?

@John_7775

15 күн бұрын

@@oddds Christianity is not incompatible with the occult. In fact it is a very good boost in spirituality. It is not the whole picture but it can relieve you of negative sin energy.

I am thrilled to have come across your channel; I can learn a lot from you. Incidentally, although I cannot remember her name, the prayer that you paraphrased was written by a sufi woman. The translation with which I am familiar goes something like this : "O God, if I worship you for fear of Hell, Then burn me in it. If I worship you in hopes of heaven, Then exclude me from it, But if I worship you for your own sake, Then do not hide from me your beauty."

My goal is to plunge myself deep into the darkness to become one with the light. Like the algore or however you spell it.

@pasthuman

Жыл бұрын

Ya know...there is a question; can one truly study something without practicing it? I myself wish I didn't plunge myself so far down but it was necessary for sure. Slaying the ol' Dragon right. :)

My ultimate goal with occultism/esotericism is to grow my knowledge become closer with the Devine, of course! Also there is a part of me that maybe selfishly; I want to bestow some of my stories of my personal experiences and gnosises, to others to garner some acknowledgement, of my personal beliefs. Years have passed and not a single person notices or shares my beliefs. My knowledge still is growing day by day. Personal gnosis is taken with a grain of salt. Skeptical to the very end unless it's written in stone! Surrounded by agnostics irl I throw my hands up and give up somedays 😅

I consider myself an atheist but I stumbled across your channel and now I'm extremely interested in the esoteric. This was a great video that explains such an important question!

Coming from a fundamentalist Christian background, one of the hardest things for me to let go of is the idea that I need to "know" with concrete certainty what will happen to me after I die. The more I study esoteric and occult topics, the more comfortable I've had to become with not having all the answers. It is actually kind of liberating knowing that it is okay to not understand everything about the universe or not know exactly what will happen to us (if anything) after we die. The idea that life is a spiritual journey and that we likely have lived and will continue to live multiple incarnations makes so much more sense to me than either the Abrahamic or materialist "one and done" view of our lives. The idea that we are likely eternal spiritual beings having a temporary material experience explains so much more about our purpose than the other mainstream religious and materialist views that dominate the West. I like the freedom of being able to say "I don't know" while in this material life.

I had such a grandiose whirlwind of finding my true will when I stepped into the occult starting ten years ago. Now I feel like a stitched abomination of every high goal, thinking that the sum result of every goal, even if they cancel each other out, will result in something... something Lovecraftian perhaps. Insanity with results, annihilation with acquisition, profanity with strict morality: the power of the paradox. A dead God, a sleeping God, an insane God; my love for the slug after the rain and the blind earthworm has carried me to this point, and somehow I am not a stranger to gnosis and teaching. I wish those seekers who seemed to have lost their way to realize their path may never cross another track.

Love how inspirational this one got, especially towards the end of the video!! Thanks for your work, Georgina!!

Thank you for this. I needed to hear this. Thank you for getting me back on track by reminding me why I started practicing in the first place. 93s

I think you gave me all the answers I needed

Excellent points regarding the goals of occultism. Thanks for bringing them up, if more people would follow these principles the occult will gain more seriousness as a discipline and would be walked away from charlatanism and the public view of the occult being a disorganized path with no structure 🙏🏻

I never thought about a Goal... The occult Always seemed to find me and it just felt right

This is a great episode.☝️👏

Great message as usual. Gnosis / enlightenment is what should be the goal. So impressed a young person recognizes that and points others in the right direction.

@Sucellusification

15 күн бұрын

I don't think there's a goal for everyone, every soul has a path and a purpose. And all of them are equally important to the environment of the cosmos, each one has its function.

@John_7775

15 күн бұрын

@@Sucellusification nah, that’s woke ideology. All things are not equal. Improving your inner self and your karma so that you come closer and closer to the vibration of perfection that the pre-creation source exists at is so much more important than using magick to get a girlfriend or whatever. This is the only chance you will have to be you. Win the crown you will wear for eternity in the presence of divine beings. Now is the time to pass through the forge of the material dimension and raise your consciousness. You may not get another chance.

@Sucellusification

15 күн бұрын

@@John_7775 @John_7775 I was talking about gnosis, apotheosis or annihilation. In fact I'd say that your answer looks more like annihilation than gnosis, in a way, until you mention wearing the crown. The three of them share the resemblance of the same goal, at least. In any case, I don't work because of FOMO or fear of death and dissolution, I work because of vocation and all the good things it does for me at every step. So thank you for the insight, really, but I see things differently. What I was talking about is that some people are called to one path and some others, to other paths. As long as it's their genuine desire, it's good that they chose either of the three, and neither is better than the other. The only aspect I think gnosis can be superior to the others is keeping the ego intact, but that's something I care about less and less as time passes.

@John_7775

15 күн бұрын

@@Sucellusification You are referring to the ego remaining intact after death via gnosis? Or do you mean in this life?

@Sucellusification

15 күн бұрын

@@John_7775 I think it's more about the process than the result. I'm not sure about what happens to the ego after death, I wish I knew

Thrilled!

This was such a good video. I’ve practiced for decades but am going through for lack of a better phrase, a midlife crisis. All I know is that the only way to solve said midlife crisis is through spirituality. This video helped me more than you could possibly know about clarifying what my goals are for the second half of my life.

Agreed… I am not a fan of the yassification of the occult that’s so popular these days. Most of those people are going to fall off the bandwagon entirely, or just never progress spiritually and fill the void with buying aesthetic tarot card sets and witchy killstar outfits.

My occult and pagan practice has changed my life so much for the better and I feel it was what I was looking for all my life. But I can say that I have had experiences that would make many sane people think they were losing their minds. I 100% agree with you, it is not for everyone.

It is very sad that in today's age telling people to "control themselves", not do everything they "want" or telling them that "spirituality" is not about getting something in "physical" world is somehow considered offensive.

Very good point. If you can't control yourself how will you control external reality

I'm not an occultist, not at all, but I watch a lot of esoteric stuff. Despite not really believing in anything you said, wow, your oracular style is VERY refined. Preach!

Interesting viewpoints.

Excellent Video. Great information and delivered with great articulation. It is weird, you look like a beautiful 20 year old but speak like someone much older and have the knowledge of someone who is aged. Keep up the good work.

Here's my one critique though as an occultist. We are human. And many times I've met other occultists or Mystics they seem to take it in a way that rejects the fact that we are human, mammals. And my one qualm with some of the practices is where is the idea of balance?

Thanks for your insight on this interesting topic. Glad that you mentioned the concept of Apotheosis, as this is highly integral to my practice as a Sinisterist (eclectic Left Hand Path practitioner). I view this lifelong goal as an unending journey, rather than a destination. In my case, I have chosen a pantheon of Archetypes (metaphorical, characterized concepts) in the form of dark or "horned" gods, that I seek to emulate in my day to day life. This continual work to improve oneself and attain a greater sense of wholeness would be how I view Apotheosis. What's your view on this?

Could you do a video on Obeah one day? Your videos got me into occultism thank you

@armanijones

Жыл бұрын

I doubt she's initiated into any ATRs or ADRs, which Obeah falls under. For closed systems and traditions you should get your information from those initiated in those systems.

Allo my contact!

I really liked the concept of this video. It’s important to be able to clarify in one’s head the reasons one might be following a path of esotericism/occultism. One thing I don’t agree with though, is the idea that something like breaking out of the cycle of samsara is not a good reason on it’s own to follow an esoteric path. The MAIN goal of many many Buddhist traditions and ESPECIALLY Buddhist esotericism is exactly that. Buddhism, being a nontheistic religion, puts great emphasis on the purpose of life and spiritual practice being to further your pathway to an understanding of nonduality, culminating in eventual release from samsara and attainment of ultimate liberation as a fully awakened Buddha. The goal IS to break of out of the cycle, that’s the entire point. There can be connection with divinity depending on the tradition or the practitioner, but the ultimate goal is release. I think that’s a doctrine that can be valuably replicated on many occult paths and I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all

Like magick, psychedelics(or any other drugs) are not for everyone. However, I have found them to be indispensable. It’s kinda what got me interested in Magick in the first place. It wasn’t always fun. I’ve had many awful and terrifying encounters. But all worthwhile and profoundly fulfilling. Thank You, and great work on the video!

I realised the other day that the Marseilles Devil may be associated with Plato's cave, they both have identification, attachment & denial, & shadows are readily related to darkness & the Devil.

Thank you for this video ❤ As a LPH practitioner, I kinda disagree on your ideas about apotheosis : for me (as a sort of UPG) it is a way for becoming divine in the next life. It's puryfing our soul from all the impurity and evolve becoming gods ourself, so that we can help other souls in their apotheosis. All the power that we get during the way are just byproduct of that process of ordeals for making ourself divine. Again good video as always

The goal is to experience it. That's it. Ideally money would be in it. I feel like I can only see death.

There is no goal only to walk the promised road.

Love you, Georgina Rose

I'd say my reason is Gnosis, to better understand the universe and my place in it. My issue with Will as you seem to define it here is that it sounds too... deterministic

I was called to worship by this wolf god, but from the beginning I've wanted, needed even, a mix of apotheosis and annihilation. To me, my gods are like models to aspire to, teachers and guides, but I don't think they rule every aspect of my life, that sounds ridiculous to me and an awful lot of work for them hahaha I've been on this path for years, probably more than a decade on various degrees of attachment and clarity, and I think now I'm reaching higher places, in part thanks to you!

The conundrum of the occultist. Leave Christianity, return to Christian mythos 😂 its like 80% of us (myself included) go: Christian->wiccan->pagan->some specific kind of pagan-> GD or OTO

So currently im at a very stagnant and i guess you can say depressed place or unsatisfied spot in my life with everything from the way i feel/look to the fact that ive been dealt a poor hand and is struggling to live. Shall i start with purification rituals before i start looking into anything else occultism? Ive been researching Thelema for about a month now and still feel ive got no knowledge, The fundamentals of Ones true will is something ive always lived by without knowing about thelema. I was raised christian and was raised to dislike anything not christian which is what lead me to stay "atheist" until ive found out about Thelema... If anyone wants to help me with my journey or begin it plz do.

How do you know if there is life beyond the material world? Is it something that you just choose to believe or do you have anecdotal proof or something?

@randyjones3050

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who says they "know" for sure is being dishonest. It is a belief based on study and personal experience. In my case I've come to 'believe' that we are 'eternal spiritual beings having a temporary material experience' because it is the view of existence that aligns best with everything that I have experienced in my own life and have have studied in the literature on the topic. For me, the breakthrough was studying my astrological birth chart and being absolutely stunned with how accurately it detailed my personality. I was a skeptic before that experience. That experience launched me on a journey of discovery where I have arrived at the present view that we are spiritual beings that incarnate at certain points in history to do certain things and to learn certain lessons. The birth chart is a tool that allows us to better understand why we are here at this particular time and what we should work towards accomplishing before we depart this realm. (We didn't come here completely blind without some kind of a map.) I don't expect anyone else to arrive at this same perspective on the nature of reality. However, it is the model that currently works best for me to explain the nature of reality and why we are here.

12:30 THIS

im commenting here and not on patreon just bc it showed up here but I struggle with this a lot. im a fervent practitioner but have a hard time explaining or rationalizing that I do believe these facts. I think of them as facts, and yet they are not substantiated and so it's really hard to explain to my therapist why I have these convictions, etc. I feel strongly that there's a meaning to life, that the actions and spirituality we cultivate here is important, etc., but theres no 'proof' in the way the secular world demands it. how do we speak to friends/family about these things that seemingly make no substantiated sense to others?

@DaatDarling

Жыл бұрын

We need to remind people that this is our spiritual path and is just as legitimate of an approach to religion as any other faith. People who are devoutly religious in more mainstream spiritual paths have beliefs that also lack proof and may seem outlandish to the secular. We really are no different from them.

@TheStitchWitchPodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@DaatDarling I have a hard time giving them space or understanding them too! lol I think this is a question about justifying religion in general.

16:00 Rabia of Basra

My goal is to climb the mountain of a path and level up and complete the Work. My aim is to level up and attain.... systasis. My aim is to level up on all levels as a person. (In progress)

@genghisgalahad8465

10 ай бұрын

All the -sis! Systasis, Henosis, Apotheosis*!

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5:38 If that's true, then how did Crowley achieve Gnosis with the HGA if he was a heroin addict? Why should we take anything he said seriously when he was likely experiencing opium induced psychosis.

420 blaze it woooooooo 🔥

You fine

''the door to psychedelic use, is down the hall way''

Psychedelics can help produce occult experiences although overusing them is escapism.

Thank you. I hate the Joel Olsteen and "The Secret" type nonsense. It is not spiritual whatsoever to "wish for money just a little harder and then you get it". That is no more spiritual than a Boomer buying a lottery ticket.

I will try living with Will, I just hope they pay rent.

@CaitofFate

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit this is funny

Pin the tail on the tzimtzum!

I'm impatient. I am just going to spawn stuff into this world. Engineering > Occultism Of course I am doing it to get something, that is the point. Else, I would do nothing at all.

I subscribed to your account and after 90 days my HGA did not contact me !

@NEMOPMORPHY

Жыл бұрын

Not her fault they are mute! I guess learn ASL!

@zacharyiangant5528

Жыл бұрын

@@NEMOPMORPHY troll !

@NEMOPMORPHY

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharyiangant5528 you replied and now you must pay the troll toll

@NEMOPMORPHY

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharyiangant5528 also maybe wait three days?

We’re married in a parallel dimension

the end of the world. you?

You remind me of Demi Lovato

Ur so cute

420 sister.

Hail satan!!!

It is all a sub culture like gothic lolita.

@will-love-lvx

Жыл бұрын

The popular version of it is on some level. Mostly those who do the work you wouldn't even KNOW they're occultists. It really is about attaining/aspiring to true gnosis. It's not a fashion statement, it's literally difficult daily work that's different for every individual. The systems have failsafes that if one doesn't have integrity during initiation and practice, you won't even want to do it anyway. Everyone is different though, so no judgement. I do choose who I work with and align with in any case. You do you, as they say. 😅