I came from a post I've found on Facebook on the Arizona jaguars, and I wanted to say that at 8-ish or so years old, on a car ride to my parents(foster care), I've witnessed a heavy set SOLID black bigcat strolling through the desert toward the road. Between Maricopa to Coolidge was our route. It was such a long time ago and it was only a glimpse, I KNOW what I saw. A Melanistic Jaguar. Had the blocky head shape and it glistened in the sun, and walked so effortlessly, healthy looking too

@S.Trades

4 ай бұрын

Very obviously and clearly a panther. 🤦‍♂️

@jinx6573

4 ай бұрын

@@S.Trades 'Panther' is used for mountain lions, jaguars, leopards, and such. Panther comes from the scientific word 'panthera' and is in every feline species.

@deanfirnatine7814

7 күн бұрын

Black is a dominant genetic trait in Jaguars so if you get one male that is black in a region who then breeds with several females whose territories his overlaps then you end up with a lot of black cubs.

I’m just thankful that they are deciding not to hunt it and harm it

@user-nu2xv6mt1z

6 ай бұрын

Yeah just leave them alone

@dr.emilschaffhausen4683

6 ай бұрын

Like the jaguar shark being hunted by Steve Zissou and his team.

I saw the same animal crawling on rocks along Highway 89 traveling on a tour around Bryce-very agile climbing the rocks -definitely a large black jaguar like animal, very muscular.

@jannisares

7 ай бұрын

Or I should say prospective range. Beautiful kitty.

@Skank_and_Gutterboy

7 ай бұрын

Looking at how it moves, I'd swear it's a cat of some kind.

@user-bg3ih5kr6u

6 ай бұрын

Jagurundi?????

@deanfirnatine7814

5 ай бұрын

@@user-bg3ih5kr6u Too big

@ElaineRowton-bg5bh

5 ай бұрын

Amy Lee road 10 and just the other night about two nights ago I seen a weird same looking creature in my backyard where I live and it may have killed my dog I don't know how my dog was torn up pretty badly and he's a pretty big dog but whatever this was it by why

I bet it's a melanistic Jaguar that somehow escaped captivity

It's almost certainly a melanistic jaguar. Jaguars have been seen all over southern Arizona, within 100 miles of where this animal was spotted. It's just traveled a bit northwest of where other jaguars have been found.

@ryanbrazeal8901

7 ай бұрын

Yea but you dont know

@matthewfors114

6 ай бұрын

why couldnt it be a melanistic puma/panther/mountain lion? im just wondering? is it the ears or something? the footage seems to grainy to say it isnt a mountain lion

@TheRetroGuy2000

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewfors114 no melanistic cougar has ever been documented.

@llamabot9889

6 ай бұрын

​@@ryanbrazeal8901what does it look like to you? What on this planet else would it be? Do you have eyeballs working properly? Did we all watch the same video? It's a dark big cat and mountain lions can certainly look that way. NOTHING LIKE HUMANS BURIED IN THEIR PHONE IN THEIR SAFE HOMES TELLING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE WOODS WHAT ANIMALS ARE.

@deanfirnatine7814

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

Seen one in southern California about 25 years ago!!!!

It's definitely a jaguar. Not sure why 12news would write that off. They've been sighted in Arizona. Jim DeVos didn't say it's not a jaguar, the 'journalist' did. Don't put words in his mouth 'It's not a jaguar, mountain lion, bobcat or house cat, according to the Jim DeVos with the Arizona Game and Fish Department.' It's simple things like this let the world know how disingenious and manipulative you news people really are. It doesn't take a genius to know the wild animals are alive in well in Arizona, it takes stepping into genuine desert. I have seen elk in the valley before and many don't believe simple things like that, this is the most verdant and lush desert in the world. The animals have plenty of options and we should let them be as they once were.

@ShastaBean

7 ай бұрын

12 news: It's not a great white or a hammerhead...but it might be a tiger shark. Let's ask the expert....

@runfargetlost991

7 ай бұрын

if its a jaguar its not a wild one, there has been no jaguar sightings in phoenix az. this is not a wild jaguar just living in the city

@mattbrown837

4 ай бұрын

Historic range. Why not?

Indigenous to this desert, the black Jaguar

@xAxCx

7 ай бұрын

You're not from here are you? Jaguar sightings are on the Mexican border. They're not seen in Phoenix which is about 200 miles north.

@RoseNZieg

Ай бұрын

there had been unconfirmed sightings for decades if not centuries. I think there may be some truth to the claims.

@KingSally92

Ай бұрын

@@xAxCxim not from out there but I know there’s Jaguars are in the Tonto National Forest. They are in AZ.

@xAxCx

Ай бұрын

@@KingSally92 You're not from here but yet you "know". There are no jaguars in the Tanto National Forest. BTW I live less than a mile away from Tonto's Sonoran region and since I've lived here 28 years I actually know what I'm talking about unlike you.

It looks like a black jaguar or panther. The size, tail and way it moves.

Probably a jaguar.

It seems like the most logical conclusion would be that it’s a melanistic Jaguar, since it A: looks like it, B: lack of other plausible options, and C: it looks like it. There has never been a case of a melanistic mountain lion (black coloration). It sure isn’t a bear. It’s not a house-cat. It’s not an ocelot. But hey, maybe it isn’t. Maybe it’s just one of those other lion sized black cats that we have in mid to southern Arizona.

@shanezen5194

7 ай бұрын

Possibly a jaguarundi...otherwise yeah a Jaguar

@jimyeats

7 ай бұрын

@@shanezen5194 Maybe, but they’re smaller. That was a pretty big cat.

@MrPanetela

7 ай бұрын

for those people making silly comments look at the tail, it is clearly feline; it is also big! Big enough to take a teenager or small man down. So don't go hiking, jogging, or bicycling in that area if you are smart. Once they get hungry enough people as friends goes out the door and into the kitchen menu.

@user-rg3vx2hp9p

7 ай бұрын

That's what I think to it's too big to be a black jaguarundi... but you never know?

@user-rg3vx2hp9p

7 ай бұрын

​@shanezen5194 ha ! Thank you that's what I said it's a black one and a big one at that

Live & let live. She’s just trying to survive like the rest of us.

That fly

@billrebsamen1810

3 ай бұрын

I didn't hear a word that poor man said!

Definitely a Jaguar, they should have asked someone else about this. This guy didn’t seem to have any knowledge of jaguars or what they look like. Jaguars absolutely have ranged - and most likely still do on occasion up to Phoenix. That’s an incredible find.

@runfargetlost991

7 ай бұрын

theres no jaguars moving towards phoenix

@1445Juan

7 ай бұрын

How can you be so sure? You never know

@arthur-qm8qs

6 ай бұрын

Actually there's already been spottings of jaguars in southern Arizona and that was a couple years ago sooo... Yes absofukinlutely it can and probably is a jaguar 🐆

@Quadratic4mula

6 ай бұрын

The experts remain doubtful that those animals travel all that way unassisted. They believe it was forcibly brought nearby then intentionally released or it escaped.

@ricodelavega4511

5 ай бұрын

maybe he didnt want people going to search for it if he mentioned black jag. If i lived there, I'd definately go looking for it, but if turned out to be an african panther hell no would i ever go on a trail in that area.

Five days from now: "The mystery creature which went viral on social media was a rare all-black cougar. It apparently died from fear and stress when over 10,000 people came out to see if they could find it".

@runfargetlost991

7 ай бұрын

nah

close encounter and aggressive behavior with a human would be that fly at 1:44 - and constantly getting into trouble at 1:57

@Himchamberlain

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@BeenDelivered

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@helen_124_user

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂⭐

@cathyburrows8162

5 ай бұрын

Now that all I can see is that fly right by that man's mouth, awaiting to fly right in.😱😂😝

@ShastaBean

5 ай бұрын

@@cathyburrows8162 🪰👄🤑

Someone had a blank panther at one time or another.

What a nice cat 😮😮😮

Can easily go and measure the rocks where it was at and determine size. Nice to see Fish and Game ha no plans on hunting it down and killing it as they would in California.

@arthurbrumagem3844

7 ай бұрын

My thoughts as well. It seems wild animals have no right to exist near humans.

@myrrhavm

7 ай бұрын

@@arthurbrumagem3844 Yup. Even if it were an exotic animal. Just let it live. Hell, half the plant life here in the states is not native yet they sell them at stores. Should be penalties.

@arthurbrumagem3844

7 ай бұрын

@@myrrhavm I don’t think some types should be legal - pythons were a great example. But if a Jaguar etc comes up from Mexico or so on its own I’m ok with that as at one time they were in the SW

@myrrhavm

7 ай бұрын

@@arthurbrumagem3844 I get it. Some are invasive, some are anomalies. That’s if that’s the right word.

Jaguarundi? Supposedly extinct in Arizona but several sightings per year

@jefferymccormick3380

Ай бұрын

Looks too big for a jaguarundi

I believe it is a melanistic or dark colour morph of a jaguarundi. Jaguarundis are slimmer and thinner built, but when they crouch closer to the ground, they match the shape and also look to be about the same size. So i do think it is a jaguarundi

An Exotic Pet Escaped or Exotic Cat from Zoo??? Very Interesting indeed does it have a chip or needs to be chipped & monitored / tracked by Game and Wildlife Thanks for Sharing 😊👍

I was more interested in why the camera makes such a sound when zooming in and out.

That is definitely a jaguar.

I did a internet search for Melanistic Jaguar. Over the last few years there have been several reported roaming around in Arizona. Images posted of the Big Cat look like the one in this video

These videos are ALWAYS blurry.....I think it's an all black jaguar.

@ShastaBean

7 ай бұрын

I had a Motorola phone that took very decent footage. Cracked the face so I bought a new Motorola and it takes video that looks like this trash. Amazingly, companies are capable of making tech get worse. Super annoying. But hey, at least I quadrupled my odds of seeing a sasquatch or little green men. So I have that going for me.

Are they the experts ?? Man looks like he has never step foot outside his backyard , let alone him being and expert in wildlife😂

Looks like a black panther or Jaguar.

It’s rare, but bobcats can be melanistic and we have bobcats in abundance. We also have a big cat species known as the “ jaguarundi” which can also be melanistic. We have a large population of mountain lions too, though no black mountain lions have been found & probably never will

@twasbrillig33

7 ай бұрын

This had a long tail, not a bobcat

@jacktrout5807

5 ай бұрын

​@@twasbrillig33bingo

Black Jaguar simple. There are at least three known Jaguars in Southern Arizona, it is not like the Phoenix area is that far from SE Arizona, look at the range of a cougar for how far big cats travel. The historic range of the Jaguar went well North of Phoenix, Occams razor man.

If it was a pet, it will just come and ask humans for help.

Its moving just like a house cat though. Hes hanging out by the houses because he doesnt belong in the wild. Someone cruel abandoned it out there - for the world to deal with. Cool people do that🙄 Maybe they cross-bred it

Seems to be doing fine.

What's the estimated size? What's the scale used? Jaguarundi?

It’s a bengal tiger! GO BENGAL’S

I see they used the Bigfoot lens.

Is there such a thing as a melanistic Ocelot?

Thats huge. Looks like Jaguar paw from apocalypto.

It's probably a fisher cat. Whenever I see them I have to look twice. They can live anywhere

the fly....

That's most certainly a Jaguar...and one that you do not want to come across while hiking.

Once upon a time AZ had camels. A military experiment that was abandoned along with the camels set loose to fend for themselves near camp verde and Quartzite. Now that would be a story if any of them survived.

@ElaineRowton-bg5bh

5 ай бұрын

But what they didn't tell you is that some of us have human skin now and the well-preserved experiment we were let loose to find our own human skin

Definately a panther. We have them here in Illinois (theyve been seen on trail cams), so why not in the mountains of Arizona? Gramps is living in the 1800's still. What does he know really?!!

They should’ve gone to same spot to get perspective of the size, could’ve settled some of the questions.

Looks like a Jaguar.

The person filming this anomaly needs to show G&F exactly where this cat like creature was filmed from. G&F will map the distance and terrain to get an idea of the perspective. Plant heights, rock sizes etc. Without those crucial measurements, identification will remain a guess.

You couldn't do a second take so the guy doesn't have a fly crawling all over his face?

saw this, which of course led KZread to give me an 11 month old video from Joe Rogan with a guy talking about re-introducing jaguars in North America, during which he mostly mentions Arizona

What if the football team was called the Arizona Jaguars and that was our mascot 😮

Theres been sightings in the past 4 years last year as well and last month now this they are out their

Too small to be a Jaguar?? I believe it can be an Onza , very rare!

@xoxolol2738

7 ай бұрын

What is a onza? I thought that was a myth

It's a former running back who was cut by Jacksonville of the NFL.

Thats a black panther, baby

@YaYaPaBla

5 ай бұрын

Melanistic jaguar

A Wolverine. Variety like the California type that are mostly black. Slinks like a cat because it is the largest member of the weasel family. Has a bearlike/catlike head and a very bushy tail. Extremely vicious hunting animal that can kill a deer, elk or take on a bear. Powerful jaws, strong teeth and claws. Probably protected because only about 300 are known to exist in the United States. Photos and recordings are rare.

@Matthew-zw9su

4 ай бұрын

Way too hot here for Wolverines.

It's a snow leopard.

Wakanda Forever

Melanistic Mountain Lion, already putting money on it, we've been there seen them before

Check out Fisher Cat or marten, or ‘pole cat’. I’ve seen 2 in Idaho. Member of the mustiledae family.

That's my long lost pet cat spot

It's clearly not a squirrel or a rabbit. Not a chipmunk. Probably not a gerbil or giraffe. A moose is right out. Not a rhino or a bat. Damn it. I give up.

Not the first....they make their way up from South America .

So maybe it is a Bobcat or a leopard but it's just got some kind of weird coloring where instead of having brown Fur. It's got really dark brown Fur. But it definitely has spots on it and it's fluffy.

We need a tourist attraction...gotta sell merchandise. Then form a western hunters possy ...charge entry tickets. Capture it!!

Send someone out to that rock, and film them to get a proportional reference.

Keep your littilems and dogs inside. AZ has jaguars.

Bigfoot's pet got loose, I fell sad for Bigfoot.

Mountain lions, cougars, jaguars, leopards and panthers are nearly identical except for fur color and spotting.

@Goldenraptor_

5 ай бұрын

No they are not, you can clearly tell the difference from their size, body shape and body proprtions.

@S.Trades

4 ай бұрын

And different body shape.

Toonces is back!

In northern AZ also…

There going to wait that its in contact with human 😮wow that's a smart man 😮

That’s what it looks like to me a black Jagger🐅

Black Panther , i live in Georgia and have sen three , and the Game and fish says they aren't in this area . i have seen them in daylight I'm a business man and a man who owned a Real Estqate Franchise was with me

It's a black Cheeto

It's big. Looks like it could be a black jaguar, but highly unlikely. Probably some idiot who thinks it cool to keep such wildlife as a prisoner/pet.

It’s a freaking black jaguar cmon

Melanistic mountain lion

game and fish needs to come hire these jaguar experts from the comments here because they know way more than they do. jaguars haven't been spotted further north than the mountains south and east of Tucson in over 70 years. how would it have even traveled to these mountains? the ones that come up from Mexico have mountain range "highways" from Mexico that they use to travel. someone correct me if i am wrong here, but isn't this mountain surrounded by urban area, especially to the South? how did it get there? the expert in the video is right, it's probably an escaped animal that someone was keeping. it might be a Jaguar, but if it was it escaped from someone who was keeping it.

That is a big black feline. Solved!

It's a house cat (my house cat moves the same way). If it was something else the video footage would have been better and maybe the person filming would have gotten closer to know.

@ATIFIED713

5 ай бұрын

Way to big for a houscat

Ive seen it up close, its a big house cat

Fisher cat.

Jaguars are native to Arizona not a big deal if it's a black one

@runfargetlost991

7 ай бұрын

yeah well not in phoenix, this is not a wild jaguar

@TropicGal777

7 ай бұрын

​@@runfargetlost991exactly. People don't realize that Phoenix is a hotspot for the exotic animal trade. They get smuggled in from Mexico all the time I literally saw a LIVE snapchat my old drug dealer posted it was a damn tiger for sale here in Phoenix 😂 He said he wouldn't sell it to me because it would eat me

@lloydchristmas1086

7 ай бұрын

They were all killed off.

Black jaguar...

Say it is an escaped animal, would it's pressence disturb the natural eco system?

black jaguarundi They are in dangered almost instinct! They reside here and Arizona and in South texas

@BillyCrystal-hc5jp

6 ай бұрын

Italian Jaguar 🤣

Kitty!

Definitely looks like a black panther, poor big kitty, it should be fine in it’s own with plenty of small game to feed off of. It it was abandoned it may seek human contact just because it’s used to it and I am afraid at that time someone will get scared and then they will hunt it.

It's not Bigfoot

😂kity cat!!😂😂😂

Aliens? Lol.

Sometimes jaguars born in black color whit black tags

Black puma 😮

Jaguarundi is what I think it is.

How many people looked up melanistic today? ;)

No question It's a squatch.

Rare but still around

He did NOT say its NOT a Jaguar, correct your story

Wow 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Jaguars live in arizona

If you take a picture of this video and freeze it and manipulate like the contrast and stuff. This thing whatever it is does have spots on it. You just can't see him cause i'm really dark against the dark fur, but it's definitely something spotted