Would definitely like to see more videos like this!

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott! -Tristan

Longer video or a series about the hubs in history would be very nice

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Teemu

@james5150

Жыл бұрын

@@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels I agree, the history of hub standards would be interesting! I'd also be keen to hear your thoughts on whether you see any existing standards falling out of favour in the next 5-10 years (e.g. 12x100 and 12x142 TA on road bikes)

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

Жыл бұрын

@@james5150 Great question! I think you'll see 100x12 and 142x12 as "road only" and I think you'll see Road Boost taking over for all CX / gravel / and even 'endurance road' bikes. I'd LOVE to do a background on the hub 'standards' video...let me see if I can convince the team :-) -Tristan

Thanks for the video. This idea lost me at 12mm front. MTB boost hubs are the same weight as road hubs. Extralite Hyperboost 3 set is 225g.

hub standards video would be great

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

2 жыл бұрын

weirdo ;-) -Tristan

Nice and clear as always Tristan :-). LOLling BIG TIME here at companies claiming that 12mm axles are more aero...snarf!

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan ! Let me know when you want to do a colab :-) -Tristan

Good stuff, your videos and general approach to stuff is refreshingly straightforward and honest. We need more of that in the bike trade! I’m a wheelbuilder in a small shop with a loyal following. And this is the first I have heard of road boost! It was only a matter of time I guess and unlike some standards this one does make sense. Especially as gravel bikes are becoming more “rad” (90s’ MTB anyone…? Sorry did I just type that out loud!)

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary - glad you like the vids and that we can help educate -Tristan

Yes, list the several types of hubs

Great video!

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad it helped

i get why this happens, but my 2013 rosd bike doesn't feel that sifferebt from a 2023 bike. weight is the same. wheels are better but not enough to really feel it. brakes and shifting surprisingly are the same (had sram hrd), frame was pretty good and geo hasn't changed. i don't have a box in the frame i guess, or integrated cable routing (beeh ;). i find the difference on mtb is enormous in comparison, on road bike i find it hard to justify an upgrade even 10y later for road

What about bb width and Q factor? I find all this tech cool and all, but boost usually implies a wider bb as well. Care to elaborate?

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

Жыл бұрын

You're spot-on Patrick. Road Boost will also require a wider chainline, and usually a wider Q-Factor (the distance between the two pedals) -Tristan

Every new “standard “ just makes it harder for us who can only afford the used market

remember when we had 20mm front axles on mtbs, then shimano and fox teamed up to make 15mm axles... something about weight reduction, but in reality it was to get center lock else the tool to install would be too big. in reality mtbs should have stuck with 20mm, and road should go to 15mm... but it will be 12mm because bike industry needs to sell

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

10 күн бұрын

its a mess now as we've got two 110x20mm "standards" - the old one you're talking about plus the new "Boost" version of that :-( -Tristan

@wenisman

10 күн бұрын

@@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels I totally know. I have a set of Chris king ISO Gen 1 hubs, 100*20mm that I simply can't convert to any usable standard without major expense... So much so it's cheaper to just buy new hubs

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

10 күн бұрын

That might not be true....the outside diameter of the endcaps is a critical dimension for Boost hubs / forks so that the endcaps nestles into the fork. The 20x110mm Boost calls for a 25mm outside diameter. Measure your hub - it's likely 25mm. If so all you need is a 5mm Boost rotor spacer (we sell these, I can give you a link) and your 110x20mm non-Boost hub (note, it's 110mm, not 100) will work on a modern Boost fork -Tristan

@wenisman

10 күн бұрын

@@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels I've been trying to find the Chris king axle but it's extremely hard to find. But since it's 100mm I took 4mm off each end of the axle and had some end caps made made from a cad I produced. So it's converted to a bike packing wheel now at 100*12. But it wasn't easy

Don't see the need for "road" bikes to go to 148 boost, not with measly 40mm being the widest tyres they run, 142 would be fine. To MTBs, the ultimate standard for them has been around for well over a decade in the form of 150x12, 142 "boost" should never have happened, it was just end caps on 135mm hubs with slots in the drop outs to make installing easier, as to 148 boost, that should maybe have been where the industry went instead of 142, but still 150x12 already existed, but you can't sell more shit if you don't put out "new" shit.

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

8 ай бұрын

Many gravel bikes are really blurring the line into mountain bike territory so I can see the wider Boost spacing being good here. Most ebike motors are only being made in 148mm chainline which is another reason we're seeing Road Boost. I couldn't agree more about 150mm though...make that endcap change to 157mm so the axle locates in the frame and we could have had the advantages of stiffer wheels and better tyre clearance for 2 decades, however unfortunately the industry and it's consumers (that's you and I) don't tend to like big changes and prefer incremental movement. -Tristan

@hardtruth603

8 ай бұрын

Tristan, on their 150/157 thing, that is only if you've got your typical, slow to move/embrace/innovate brand frame. Banshee were doing 150x12 when they introduced their first FS 29er trail bike, the Prime in 2012. Most brilliant thing about their drop outs is at one point they supported every axle standard basically, 135/142/148 and 150/7. I run a 150x12 rear on my short travel Phantom that I've had since 2014.

@WheelworksHandcraftedWheels

8 ай бұрын

@@hardtruth603 those modular dropouts were great!