What is """Freedom""" Anyway?

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"Freedom" as a buzzword doesn't mean much of anything anymore. In fact, it is almost a very bad thing to have modern "freedom." Here I discuss the contrast between this superficial freedom or license with how people in the classical and Christian worlds defined freedom.
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  • @UltraRik
    @UltraRik3 жыл бұрын

    True freedom is when you read something you disagree with on the internet and you feel absolutely nothing

  • @haveyouseenchefplis932

    @haveyouseenchefplis932

    3 жыл бұрын

    The most based comment i've read so far.

  • @fluffywolf6300

    @fluffywolf6300

    3 жыл бұрын

    Based and greenpilled.

  • @bigjoseph1876

    @bigjoseph1876

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best thing I’ve ever read

  • @Basuko_Smoker

    @Basuko_Smoker

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fluffywolf6300 based matrix

  • @JTKroll12

    @JTKroll12

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel personally attacked and I'm triggered

  • @shaunpatrick8345
    @shaunpatrick83453 жыл бұрын

    I am not free to listen to the sermon because I have to pause every 10 seconds to read the memes.

  • @Gm-ce5kg

    @Gm-ce5kg

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly

  • @JodyBruchon
    @JodyBruchon3 жыл бұрын

    Freedom is not related to happiness or success. It enables the potential for those things, but it is up to the person to follow the direction that leads there.

  • @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diobrando7589 It's actually the opposite of the socialists. They are purely materialistic, Luke here is advocating that people stop falling to these materialistic impulses (which is what Christianity teaches)

  • @JodyBruchon

    @JodyBruchon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let's also remember that the only way to have happiness in freedom through control by another party is to be fortunate enough to have a good enough controller. Cuomo shoveled COVID-19 patients into nursing homes, killing thousands unnecessarily. Freedom from misery under a controller just shifts responsibility to someone you can't control instead of keeping it in your own hands where you can control it.

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pepe the frog *kisses the popes $650,000 ring while kneeling in his extravagant golden castle* all those mega pastors living in modesty really drive your point home!

  • @Epsilonsama

    @Epsilonsama

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diobrando7589 I know this philosophy very well. Luke's philosophy on Freedom was the one the Church had since ancient times. The Church separates true liberty from libertine. Liberty is the use of our Free Will to Freely worship God and try to live a life as sinless as possible while Libertine is too do w/e you want which includes forsaking God. The main reasoning here is that by partaking in vices without restrains you are walking away from God and God is the true source of Freedom therefore being a drug addict makes you less Free.

  • @moshow93

    @moshow93

    2 жыл бұрын

    OK. I don't want that. Put the wise men in charge and give me a floor.

  • @GeorgeFosberry
    @GeorgeFosberry3 жыл бұрын

    Need to watch this twice, second time with eyes closed.

  • @ezforsaken

    @ezforsaken

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did the same, the first time I listen while watching the images and reading the dialogues, and the second one I just focused on what he was saying

  • @josephdiaz2182

    @josephdiaz2182

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao fax

  • @liftwaffe3659
    @liftwaffe36593 жыл бұрын

    The virgin "Liberty" vs The chad "If I don't like something it should be illegal"

  • @matthewjameson8809

    @matthewjameson8809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @animalkiller6669

    @animalkiller6669

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not how it works

  • @pkREX24

    @pkREX24

    3 жыл бұрын

    this really only works until you realize the people ruling you don't have your best interests in mind see: hate speech laws.

  • @retard1990

    @retard1990

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unironically

  • @user-wn3bo9vo7f

    @user-wn3bo9vo7f

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly I don't like guns therefore they should be illegal

  • @whatsonyourclipboardrightn190
    @whatsonyourclipboardrightn1903 жыл бұрын

    Real freedom is when you do what I tell you to, trust me

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trust me bro, you’re too stupid to have authority over your consciousness. Hand the keys over to your loving government now, please. Chemicals bad ideologies good!

  • @0xnpctim

    @0xnpctim

    3 жыл бұрын

    Literally what I heard the entire video. He has a couple good points, but as a traditionalist he has romanticised the past and reasons weirdly because of it. This was cringy to listen to.

  • @wednesdaynightbusiness6296

    @wednesdaynightbusiness6296

    3 жыл бұрын

    You aren't free when you're subject to advertisements every waking second of your life. You aren't free because you bought a TV or some flat-pack furniture. Freedom means agency, and in liberal "free societies" people have no agency, what they like and where they shop is determined by advertisers and brand recognition, what they say determined by media, what they think determined by movies and the education system, liberal "free societies" remove agency from people and local communities and centralise power and decision making more than any form of authority on the planet, ever.

  • @valeryi3374

    @valeryi3374

    3 жыл бұрын

    😅 help

  • @apuaputaja8718

    @apuaputaja8718

    3 жыл бұрын

    t. didn't watch the video

  • @rexevan6714
    @rexevan67143 жыл бұрын

    We need Not-Related podcast back

  • @jeremydoerksen5988

    @jeremydoerksen5988

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very much!

  • @alurma

    @alurma

    3 жыл бұрын

    We need to consoom

  • @1337BigBadWolf

    @1337BigBadWolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Andai it's been a while since I've seen this meme. Based!

  • @gunvoidwalker3133

    @gunvoidwalker3133

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @vivdeeplearning2261

    @vivdeeplearning2261

    3 жыл бұрын

    The question is, are you really free when you need Not-Related?

  • @reinoob
    @reinoob3 жыл бұрын

    Freedom is the ability to choose your shackles and break free from them whenever you want. That requires a lot of mental and spiritual training. In a world controlled by duality, you can't free from a set of chains without adopting another one.

  • @lifebarier

    @lifebarier

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am putting that first sentence in my "quotes.txt"

  • @hapatraditionalist1478

    @hapatraditionalist1478

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alankjohn9263 90% of people can't be trusted. The vast majority of people in the world are simply fundamentally incapable of acting on their own beyond base instinct. They need guidance in order to do anything constructive.

  • @user-dv3lz1vx3g

    @user-dv3lz1vx3g

    3 жыл бұрын

    They may need guidance but that doesn't mean that you should impose your subjective guidance upon them, just like you shouldn't force "mentally unwell" people into medications, and the same reasons why you shouldn't impose vaccines upon people that don't want it. The government uses the literal same argument as you to do these things. You cannot coerce another person into being free, that's simply idiotic, if you have to coerce another person into freedom that means that it isn't really freedom.

  • @hapatraditionalist1478

    @hapatraditionalist1478

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-dv3lz1vx3g Guidance that follows the laws set forth by Heaven isn't subjective. Government power isn't inherently bad; it's a matter of who wields it. And you missed the point of the video if you think that "it's not real freedom." Real freedom is freedom from base desires and vice, not freedom from authority.

  • @user-dv3lz1vx3g

    @user-dv3lz1vx3g

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to disrespect religion, but you cannot consider the laws of the heaven objective as long as you have different interpretations of it. Luke's point is totally valid in a moral system but not an ethical one. A valid ethical system should be universal, omnilateral, peremptory and atemporal. Even if the "laws set forth by heaven" were objective to the eyes of God he hasn't given us a maxim by which you can derive logically derive all other laws, and considering all of that the current laws of heaven cannot be peremptory nor atemporal. In fact, by this definition of ethics the government cannot by definition be ethical, but that's besides the point. (edit: attempt at making my ramblings more concise)

  • @MasterSergius
    @MasterSergius3 жыл бұрын

    When you use Vim - you're not free anymore

  • @ms-fk6eb

    @ms-fk6eb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vim addiction is a real issue, you can start by using another program with vim keybindings to distance yourself from it but the hardest part is going back to touching your mouse and clicking things.

  • @jpeg.600x2

    @jpeg.600x2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ms-fk6eb bruh

  • @user-od3dw8uk1k
    @user-od3dw8uk1k3 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, these two meanings of the word "freedom" do not contradict each other. And I believe that liberation from temptation should not come from the government, but from the person himself.

  • @alternateperson6600

    @alternateperson6600

    3 жыл бұрын

    Missing the point of governmental restrictions; it has nothing to do with prevention. Have you forgotten humans are social animals? You downplay peer attachment as if one could easily forgo pervasive social reflections. If you live among a licentious crowd and they induce you to be just as licentious, you'll likely be just as licentious. Conscience (as opposed to the mind) is empirical and it seeks actualization in references; and part of the human experience is to accomodate social patterns and compare them to our own judgement. That's why the "live and let it be, bro!" approach never works.

  • @glokta1

    @glokta1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alternateperson6600 Finally someone who gets it.

  • @insidetrip101

    @insidetrip101

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alternateperson6600 Well said. Freedom is the ability to choose the good, it has nothing to do with having more than one possible "outcome."

  • @tetepoire1233
    @tetepoire12333 жыл бұрын

    Luke Smith morphs into a pastor by each passing upload

  • @0x007A
    @0x007A3 жыл бұрын

    If the past year has taught us anything, it is goverment is not a benevolent entity whose raison d'etre to provide us with the philosophical "good life" whether ethically, morally, or spiritually.

  • @insidetrip101

    @insidetrip101

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you, but I think this is actually a failing of us as citizens of our state. We are too detached and have let people push ourselves out of our duty to engage in politics. A monarchy/tyrant wouldn't solve this either because even in those types of governments the citizens have a duty to contribute to their society. Our problem is that our hyper individualism contains this idea of retreating from society and living completely on our own, where St. Benedict brought a community with him when he retreated from society.

  • @jpeg.600x2

    @jpeg.600x2

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeahyeahfrfr

  • @victorkreig6089

    @victorkreig6089

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was never meant to, was only supposed to be there to facilitate the capability to do so. You can blame Jefferson for all of this

  • @TruthTVNZ03

    @TruthTVNZ03

    Жыл бұрын

    That is true but what Luke Smith says is facts anyway. Both can be true, a government can suck but banning drugs or being anti drugs can be a good thing too

  • @sietsejohannes

    @sietsejohannes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TruthTVNZ03 The government sucks because it's full of petty tyrants with savior complexes like you. You think drugs are bad for people? Fine. Don't do them. Simple.

  • @TheEzemikedirnt
    @TheEzemikedirnt3 жыл бұрын

    4:19 What you say resonates a lot with what happened to me, I asked God to help me put masturbation and porn behind me, I repented of my sins and accepted Jesus as my savior. It was good for a few days and I fell back again. When I finished, something in my mind said "I am a slave" that thought came to me, I don't know if it was mine, I like to believe that it was the holy spirit because just then I realized that this was ruling my life as if I had no control over my own body. I haven't done it for a long time, I don't even have the need, I thank God. Freedom is submission to God

  • @Twtgod

    @Twtgod

    Жыл бұрын

    How are you doing now man?

  • @citizenofreality2751
    @citizenofreality27513 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Even though I don't agree with your definition of freedom, this film was still a valuable lesson that gave me motivation to get over my temptations. It's mind-blowing how every one of your off-topic films has taught me something very important.

  • @gabrielreal2172
    @gabrielreal21723 жыл бұрын

    The laws of a state are no more external to yourself than the animal-like impulses of the body. You can only be free if your actions are derived from within yourself, from your internal self-reflective being, instead of an external cause such as the state or the impulses.

  • @gabrielreal2172

    @gabrielreal2172

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Account-ez9px External to yourself. Pay attention to the definitions.

  • @svijetlanradov8235
    @svijetlanradov82353 жыл бұрын

    In many slavic languages the word for freedom is a derived from proto-slavic *svodboda. *svo (self) + *boda (aware or awake)

  • @lox7182

    @lox7182

    2 ай бұрын

    I didn't know that, that's actually pretty cool

  • @OccuredJakub12

    @OccuredJakub12

    2 ай бұрын

    In polish we have "wolność and "swoboda" and I always felt that wolność is more of the American meaning of freedom from opressive systems, while swoboda means more the ability to choose what you want to do, a lack of worry about limited choices

  • @A_Box
    @A_Box3 жыл бұрын

    Luke, you need to do this more often. People need to have some reminder that they are not alone. Just like Coke, they keep advertising because they know that people forget all too soon.

  • @j777111able

    @j777111able

    3 жыл бұрын

    I won’t forget WokeCola or WokeWars. #”Get woke, go broke”

  • @jonathanbuck2564
    @jonathanbuck25643 жыл бұрын

    Scenario 2 is more free but I would prefer to live in a country where scenario 1 is possible.

  • @Quasindro

    @Quasindro

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are weak. But I'm weak, too.

  • @jorionedwards

    @jorionedwards

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Quasindro I sense some projection here.

  • @Quasindro

    @Quasindro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jorionedwards NOOOOO YOU CAN'T ANALYZE MY MESSAGE TO COME UP WITH SENSIBLE CONCLUSIONS

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure, if you change the definition of freedom to “success in society.” Which are completely different concepts of course, even though this video is trying to convince us otherwise.

  • @JFrameMan
    @JFrameMan3 жыл бұрын

    was waiting for this video since you hinted at it on stream.

  • @Demutori
    @Demutori3 жыл бұрын

    they are both non-free actually. just different conditions.

  • @technophobian2962

    @technophobian2962

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me, freedom would be having the right to take drugs, but also having the support available to help me if I get addicted to them. That way if I want to I can take drugs, and if I end up dependent on them someone can help me break free.

  • @namenameson9065

    @namenameson9065

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@technophobian2962 What about their freedom? If your addiction is dependent on them, then you are robbing them of their freedom. You think like a socialist, and this is why Socialism is slavery. Free people don't want to babysit junkies. We'd rather ostracize them and let them fend for themselves, and execute them for resorting to theft to feed their sinful habits.

  • @technophobian2962

    @technophobian2962

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@namenameson9065 it's their choice to go down that career path. If they decide to do that, then of course they have to do their job. They aren't legally obligated to do it and they could change their career if they wanted to.

  • @TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt

    @TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@technophobian2962 freedom is the balance of having authority over your decisions and having responsibility for your actions, you cannot invoke freedom to smoke crack and jump on government welfare to dodge the consequences

  • @Sp0nge5

    @Sp0nge5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheGovernmentputcrackinmyblunt You can just price the welfare into the drugs. Then of course the problem becomes that black market dope is cheaper. That's where the iron fist comes into place (not by outlawing substances altogether).

  • @sanjacobs6261
    @sanjacobs62613 жыл бұрын

    Real ones already consOOMed this cOOntent earlier in their terminal RSS reader

  • @5HT2A292
    @5HT2A2923 жыл бұрын

    Imagine thinking that making something illegal stops people from having impulses.

  • @5HT2A292

    @5HT2A292

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@balmy659 Making drugs like weed illegal has never stopped anyone from doing them. If people have these impulses, they will do it, regardless of it being legal or not. The only difference is that people get put in jail longer than child molesters when weed is illegal. How does putting someone in jail give them freedom by any definition of the word?

  • @tylerkropp4380

    @tylerkropp4380

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@5HT2A292 If the government wants to increase something, they subsidize it. If the government wants to decrease something, it bans it. The fact that people do drugs when it is banned does not mean it shouldn't be banned. I don't want it banned, but the reasoning used here (and used by many fellow libertarians) is just plain wrong. You need to show that the costs of a proposed solution outweigh its benefits, not that it is an imperfect solution.

  • @splishysploshy7840

    @splishysploshy7840

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Making stuff illegal doesn't help anyone. If anything, it increases the rates of crime and violence that come along with the trading of illegal goods. An example of this is the solution that Portugal found for their drug problem. The government legalised drugs - this had several positive effects. The government was now able to help those addicted to drugs and support them in their lives, leading to a large decrease of people addicted to hard drugs. Violent crime also decreased by 50% because drugs were being sold legally and drug gangs lost business.

  • @pikajew3578

    @pikajew3578

    3 жыл бұрын

    >making something illegal stops people from having implulses Literally nobody says this.

  • @josephdiaz2182

    @josephdiaz2182

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@5HT2A292 I found the pot smoker

  • @megaoyi1Wins
    @megaoyi1Wins3 жыл бұрын

    I love this reflection, thank you so much for sharing it

  • @TorrAlstad
    @TorrAlstad3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the thought provoking talk. Interesting to think about. I think freedom comes in more than one dimension. The one you're talking about I'd call spiritual freedom (moral vs immoral living). The other one is what I'll come objective freedom. The freedom to navigate the physical world as you see fit regardless of what government or popular opinion is. It's freedom to choose for yourself and accept the outcomes of your choices. With those two dimensions, you can get a continuum of social configurations. You can be moral and governed, immoral and governed, moral and not governed, or immoral and not governed.

  • @TruthTVNZ03

    @TruthTVNZ03

    Жыл бұрын

    I completely agree with you. You gotta be free both ways.

  • @mongooseman3744
    @mongooseman37443 жыл бұрын

    Love you Luke

  • @ayumu_osaka

    @ayumu_osaka

    3 жыл бұрын

    uhoh you forgot to say nohomo...

  • @SiisKolkytEuroo

    @SiisKolkytEuroo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Simp

  • @wesleyrm

    @wesleyrm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watched Evangelion during lockdown, damn, its basically various teenagers with middle-age crises. And I managed to ignore the christian references, the Kakure Kurishitan had no fault, they tried to spread faith lol

  • @cyb3rklev872
    @cyb3rklev872 Жыл бұрын

    Number 1 has more negative liberty, negative liberty is freedom from interference by others, number 2 has more positive liberty, the possession of the power and resources to act in the context of the structural limitations of the broader society.

  • @SageManeja
    @SageManeja3 жыл бұрын

    in a society where drugs are illegal there are still drug addicts, do you really need a nanny state telling you whats good for you and whats not? maybe they should ban alcohol and cars too in case we get hurt

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Burn all those books with unsafe ideas while we’re at it

  • @lucascesar029

    @lucascesar029

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a society where killing is illegal there are still murderers, so let's legalize killing? oh wait, pro choice people are already at it

  • @umairsyed3845
    @umairsyed38452 жыл бұрын

    If you are not slave anyting then you are a slave to your desire

  • @motozappa225
    @motozappa2253 жыл бұрын

    I can find myself quite on the same page for most of the points of the video and the major take is basically this: to not let yourself be susceptible to vices or inate impulses that naturally reside in our very animal nature, with the difference that in this age is so much easy to excercize some of them ,mostly destructive and others unaccessible (as in many urbanite realities, healty comradery and human interaction) The final take tho is kinda silly as it implies that all people are gullible babies that can't control impulses, with no control of themselves and we need so desperately daddy or mommy government to tell us what to do or not. It's like "I'm restricting your rights ,freedom and possibly dignity but y'know, it's for your safety! Now go in the pod and eat crickets". This exaple is is kinda hand picked and memey but you get the point. This could lead on the long run to bad governement or societal practices and furthermore if you restrict something, there's always people that seek that same thing, could be deemed "immoral" or "bad" by someone else, and often talking about things that aren't a danger to the collective Develop discipline yourselves, most often than not you action will inspire others, leading to change

  • @alternateperson6600

    @alternateperson6600

    3 жыл бұрын

    >The final take tho is kinda silly as it implies that all people are gullible babies that can't control impulses And the adroit, discerning adults are mostly all jacking to and hypnotized by n0rp. Sort of undermines your critic against governmental supervision, champ.

  • @sentjojo

    @sentjojo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Luke is implying a theocracy rather than any of the systems of government common in modern western society

  • @alternateperson6600

    @alternateperson6600

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@akn3207 ok, maybe I wasn't completely fair with my evaluation. They also squander hours upon hours on neetclix and vidya.

  • @Cbd_7ohm

    @Cbd_7ohm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sentjojo Well theocracy is bullshit.

  • @savantshuia
    @savantshuia2 жыл бұрын

    Man I came here because I wanted to learn more about Linux and terminal stuff but you have ended up opening my mind about so many things, even just "What is """Freedom""" Anyway? " and "Resisting Temptation..." videos made me realize I was being a hypocrite when I say I want to stop pr0n but I can't, its like I wanted to stop it but at the same time I wanted to suck the last ounces of pleasure I felt after cooming no matter how hollow of a shell I felt like. I am not religious and am in fact an atheist but I completely agree with everything you say in this video.

  • @oxydreamer
    @oxydreamer3 жыл бұрын

    Why stop at chemicals? Ideas are dangerous too. To maximize freedom, the government needs to start censoring all speech that deviates from the Safe and Clean list of pre-approved ideas.

  • @TheGiantMidget
    @TheGiantMidget Жыл бұрын

    Everyone looks for freedom in the external world but the only freedom that really matters is freedom from yourself

  • @officialanhi315
    @officialanhi3153 жыл бұрын

    a friend sent me the how to resist temptation video last week and i stopped everything thank you so much luke greeting from germany

  • @simian1380
    @simian13803 жыл бұрын

    Yeah sure from a moral standpoint i can agree with you but from a legislative perspective it's anachronic because we know today that just because you make something illegal doesn't translate to the reduced usage of the substance or the practice of x thing, the opposite happens actually due to reactance and makes things worse in general because if something is illegal even if an individual asks for help, they can't due to the fact that they risk criminal charges if they open up about it to a professional.

  • @spagettech
    @spagettech3 жыл бұрын

    I read something similar on your website and I'm glad you did a full video on it.

  • @trailblazingfive
    @trailblazingfive3 жыл бұрын

    Yay, no I don't have to read - restart the podcast and start posting real CONTENT like GNU carpentry or how to increase chicken egg yields using vi

  • @aRaskyl
    @aRaskyl3 жыл бұрын

    These are my favorite type of your videos, this is great.

  • @Ricardoromero4444
    @Ricardoromero44443 жыл бұрын

    I cannot be said to be choosing my shackles if the government puts them on me. Neither of the starting examples are truly free.

  • @lostzephyr2191

    @lostzephyr2191

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it not possible that the idea of "freedom" is a completely incoherent spook? To clarify my position, I don't support the theocracy that Luke Smith seems to advocate.

  • @Ricardoromero4444

    @Ricardoromero4444

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lostzephyr2191 Freedom, as all things are, is an abstraction. It's only as real as we agree on it's meaning. I believe a good definition for freedom is the ability to choose one's own course of action. Whatever freedom luke smith is talking about definitely isn't the same as mine.

  • @MartinsTalbergs
    @MartinsTalbergs3 жыл бұрын

    Discipline is freedom! 👍

  • @MartinsTalbergs

    @MartinsTalbergs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@firstnamegklsodascb4277 no, Cole Robinson is

  • @herrkrake8106
    @herrkrake81062 жыл бұрын

    Since you were borned there is no freedom. Also thank you very much, Luke, for this video. It totally correlate with my own thoughts, but I couldn't get things together. Love you! So much appreciate that! Great work!

  • @primorock8141
    @primorock81413 жыл бұрын

    This video is so true! And that part about people seeing themselves as extensions of the things they consume, I've seen it so many times in school when I would give any criticisms people would get all hurt as though I'm personally attacking them. Even adults act the same way smh what has this world come to?

  • @whirled_peas

    @whirled_peas

    2 жыл бұрын

    You ask what it's come to? Consumerism, that's all. It'll pass, but it'll be painful.

  • @ItachiUchiha-ns1il
    @ItachiUchiha-ns1il3 жыл бұрын

    I began watching this disagreeing with what you were saying, but slowly began to agree with you more and more. Well done.

  • @ezforsaken

    @ezforsaken

    3 жыл бұрын

    You entered the Genjutsu, o maybe he took you out of another genjutsu? :O

  • @HeloIV
    @HeloIV3 жыл бұрын

    Was missing this kind of content from you. The problem I see is that until the population sees and understands that being a slave to impulses is a bad thing they will keep on rejecting norms that prevent such subjugation. Maybe the first generations will remember but in time people will forget why certain norms exist and will deem them oppressive and antiquated. Then they will need to fall low enough as to be reminded of why (which is the step we have been for quite some time)

  • @altEFG

    @altEFG

    3 жыл бұрын

    He had this exact thing as a text post on his website for at least a month.

  • @zvezdan956

    @zvezdan956

    3 жыл бұрын

    thats why we need trad families that marry at 14 and have their own land and dont go to public school. theres nothing more natural.

  • @SkepticRaider

    @SkepticRaider

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, people have to figure out this stuff themselves... I don't think that governments should control everything we do. But I do think that society shouldn't encourage consumerism, vices, etc.

  • @altEFG

    @altEFG

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SkepticRaider The problem is, people rarely figure out stuff like this on their own. Like it or not, we are designed to be social, and our behavior and way of thinking is influenced by outside stimuli. We make fun of coomer consumers, but consider this - in absence of meaningful community, what are they left to be exposed to? If course, to media, and social media sites, because it takes mental effort to isolate yourself from this stuff and go read a book or something, and it's not even evident that doing so has benefits. So, people like Luke are important, because there has to be someone to at least introduce those ideas. Luke does it in a fun way that appeals to someone who is willing to consider those ideas, and I think it does more good that Luke realizes.

  • @GirlyNCute

    @GirlyNCute

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@altEFG its funny, people like Luke preach Christianity, but the WHOLE basis of Christianity is free will, to a true Christian whatever happens in this world just be a traveling matter and a test for them to pass on to the after life with a "good behavior" record, for this evangelicals to want to impose their mortality on to other who arent or dont believe the same as they do, no matter how detrimental it would be for "society" since it would be basically against the teachings of Christianity, you dont like what America is go live in a muslim country see how happy you are with a forced religion upon you

  • @G18395
    @G183953 жыл бұрын

    As much as ability for the government to govern in that matter increases, as much such ability would be missised. The hottest current examples are the laws about banning and backdooring encryption, but this works in a similar manner in the majority of cases.

  • @chelonianegghead274

    @chelonianegghead274

    3 жыл бұрын

    OK coomer

  • @G18395

    @G18395

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chelonianegghead274 OK slave.

  • @chelonianegghead274

    @chelonianegghead274

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@G18395 no u

  • @G18395

    @G18395

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chelonianegghead274 damn kindergarden. Please don't be so unconstructive

  • @chelonianegghead274

    @chelonianegghead274

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@G18395 ur face is unconstructive

  • @porky1118
    @porky11183 жыл бұрын

    I don't think, the real bad thing is following your temptations, but not having better alternatives. If you don't have hobbies, friends and other kinds positive relationships, a job you like, goals you want to reach, or a habit of doing physical exercise, preferably most of them, it's much harder not to follow any temptations.

  • @alternateperson6600

    @alternateperson6600

    3 жыл бұрын

    Learn how to be bored. You don't need divertion all the time.

  • @honkhonk8009

    @honkhonk8009

    Жыл бұрын

    Very true. I think freedom should only be hailed if you are responsible enough to actually pursue those hobbies and life accomplishments. Cus your average retard just usesw their freedom to be complete fucking degenerates. Maybe its good tho cus the more fucked up these people are, the better chances we have at exploiting that. I love jeff bezos cus he does a great job at exploiting these fucking retards. Same with Disneys CEO.

  • @genuinemagic777
    @genuinemagic7773 жыл бұрын

    A lot of good insights . Thank you Brother 😁

  • @ElliotWilks_
    @ElliotWilks_3 жыл бұрын

    Luke, please could you do a video showing how your could use something like matrix to connect all of your social media messages into one terminal based application. It sucks having to keep switching between all of my social media account to check messages and I don't like how bloated they look.

  • @vilhelmmuller1588
    @vilhelmmuller15883 жыл бұрын

    Alcohol is legal in my contry. Some people become alcoholics. That does not mean it should be illegal.

  • @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    3 жыл бұрын

    What if most people become alcoholics and start voting by their impulses? Under democracy people controlled by their impulses don't vote rationally

  • @vilhelmmuller1588

    @vilhelmmuller1588

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@science_is_fake_and_gay2710 Yeah, it would be bad if most people became alcoholics...? And?

  • @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    @science_is_fake_and_gay2710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vilhelmmuller1588 Well if they vote by their impulses they could for example vote for a law that every citizen should pay for the alcohol of others? You wouldn't like that wouldn't you?

  • @vilhelmmuller1588

    @vilhelmmuller1588

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@science_is_fake_and_gay2710 Nope. And I wouldn't like if they voted for a law that required me to pay for their resturant bills either. Or their new car, or their haircut ... Etc etc. What is your argument, Lol.

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pepe the frog ?

  • @bijanshadnia3620
    @bijanshadnia36203 жыл бұрын

    Hey I just saw your thinkpad T420 review and now I see you make sweet philosophical videos. Subscribed.

  • @user-xl7us4lt3t
    @user-xl7us4lt3t10 ай бұрын

    Спасибо за видео! Согласен с большей частью изложенных мыслей. Забавно получается, мы тысячи лет оптимизировали процессы, упрощали собственные жизни, создавали более простую версию натуральной природы естественного обитания, не предполагающей подвержение опасности наших организмов, и теперь мы отказываемся от удобств которые сами придумали, в пользу более натуральных (и зачастую менее удобных) процессов. Я согласен с 99% утверждений из видео, за исключением высказывания про музыку (не стал бы относить её к вредным привычкам - это источник вдохновения).

  • @user-vq6pk2do6d

    @user-vq6pk2do6d

    9 ай бұрын

    Скорее здесь имелось в виду, что люди характеризуют сами себя как набор ярлыков, врождённых или приобретённых под влиянием социума поверхностных потребностей (к примеру, "Я уникален, так как люблю слушать Тейлор Свифт и квашенную капусту"). При этом навыки и способности, жизненный опыт и мышление часто игнорируются.

  • @TudorIrimescu
    @TudorIrimescu2 жыл бұрын

    Man you're such a breath of fresh air. Thanks for existing.

  • @Chris-zg8eq
    @Chris-zg8eq3 жыл бұрын

    Halfway in and I subscribed, it usually takes me a few videos to do so. Good job. Came here from mental outlaw

  • @NadeUp
    @NadeUp2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video , nice. Best one on this channel , so far.

  • @protogionlastname6003
    @protogionlastname6003Ай бұрын

    The "I use windows because I value my time" starterpack in the end made me crackle

  • @leanhnguyet71
    @leanhnguyet713 жыл бұрын

    True freedom is to bring good to every individual in a society that should be self controlled by efforts of everyone , not just by the government or any other forces to keep the community in the good shape , in order as it's supposed to be ...

  • @makervideo1656
    @makervideo16563 жыл бұрын

    As a chinese, our party all said "we are doing this/ban u to doing this is for your benefit" what do u think about? I think what u said is good, is very good, but it should be a personal practice but not a way to rule people.

  • @n0q161
    @n0q1613 жыл бұрын

    Luke, i really want to thank you for making all of these videos and for being you.

  • @instagib783
    @instagib7833 жыл бұрын

    What if I rationally decide to Return to Monke?

  • @YouTubeTryingToBeTwiter31581
    @YouTubeTryingToBeTwiter31581 Жыл бұрын

    Freedom is the ability to choose your master. One that willingly follows someone/something is not a slave but a servant. If your master is bad for you and you can not leave him/her/is/they/them/xor/nand than you are not free. In other words I believe there is true freedom that is combination of both classical and modern ideas of freedom. A different translation per se. I believe that being a willing servant to "God"/"Set of moral values" is what real freedom is about. A servant not a slave.

  • @HontoNeet
    @HontoNeet3 жыл бұрын

    I’m a textbook, stereotypical libertarian, with a bone to pick with quite literally every conceivable institution of authority that isn’t directly God Himself (and for good reason too), but I do quite appreciate you going into this topic, and I ESPECIALLY like the point about sin being more arbitrary than moral laws; I’ve never really thought about it that way before. I don’t believe in empowering fallible rulers or angry mobs to forcibly interfere in peoples’ lives unless it’s an issue of consent/property rights, but people DO need to be taught that the morally relativistic, libertine definition of “freedom” is a lie and a conspiracy against their minds and souls, that true freedom is found only in Christ. I believe informed consent makes a person’s behavior their own business and not society’s, but it doesn’t necessarily make things “victimless”.

  • @AF-mv8hq

    @AF-mv8hq

    3 жыл бұрын

    self aware libertarian

  • @Manderson1926
    @Manderson19263 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, Luke.

  • @mattduin7144
    @mattduin71442 жыл бұрын

    What is the church at 9:52? It is absolutely stunning This is the first video I've come across by you, Luke and it's probably the best argument for why freedom from sin is true freedom. Thankyou

  • @MrEdrftgyuji
    @MrEdrftgyuji3 жыл бұрын

    Freedom means you have the right to do what you like without intervention from the government. That does not mean that you are free from responsibility. Actually, the opposite, as you are now the only one responsible for your actions - not the government. Obviously there has to be some limits on this - the 'right' to murder is outweighed by other people's right to live, etc. The druggie is actually less free as he is protected by the government to some extent from the repercussions of his actions. Chances are he is on benefits, and receives perks from the taxpayer that are not given to productive citizens.

  • @JesseNeckred
    @JesseNeckred3 жыл бұрын

    Absolute fascist rhetoric.

  • @liftwaffe3659

    @liftwaffe3659

    3 жыл бұрын

    good

  • @JesseNeckred

    @JesseNeckred

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@liftwaffe3659 If you enjoy governmental control.

  • @nomore9004

    @nomore9004

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is the same idea that was enforced by the Catholic Church and European government's during medieval times so it doesn't matter if it's fascist or not.

  • @spectralisation
    @spectralisation7 ай бұрын

    For me Freedom is a concept completely identical with, and basically a synonim of, Responsibility. My range of freedom (autonomous decision-making) exactly corresponds with my range of responsibilities (for what I do with my time, where I live, where I work, what I eat, etc.). Whenever I forfeit, forget or abandon some responsibility, I lose freedom of decision or action in that area. The naive myth of freedom being something separate from, or even the opposite of responsibility, is exactly the wrong concept. Now, what you are saying about socially enforced inpulse control, does make some sense; but it can also work completely counter-productively, since each time a decision is made by someone else and not yourself, you lose some opportunity or ability to make that same decision by your own volition, leading not to more, but to less impulse control over time, and a lot of suppressed and unprocessed sub-conscious matter. It could very well be, that the two men you showed in the beginning would be in the same exact situation given the same circumstances - but that makes them both equally unfree; both of them HAVEN'T taken the responsibility to process their own toxic impulses. However, the druggie there DOES HAVE an opportunity to overcome his addiction, by taking responsibility for his life, and were he to take it upon himself to do it (even if he's not completely succesful in the end), he would by definition become more free in this respect than the other man, whose prudent lifestyle was chosen and imposed upon him by society, and chances are, he's unconsciously finding other ways to act upon his bad impulses (maybe he's getting frustrated and doesn't put his best effort into his work; maybe he's acting passive-aggressively with his family; stuff like that happens all the time with people who are emotionally repressed).

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras4915 ай бұрын

    That was informative! Thanks!

  • @rubendominguez9875
    @rubendominguez98753 жыл бұрын

    Very good Luke. I only add the idea that the first interested in freedom is oneself, before governments, before their rules. Yes that rules are important, but the starting point has to be the person.

  • @woodenlock2215
    @woodenlock22152 жыл бұрын

    Y'all remember when in Back to the Future 2 when Biff got rich and took over the town and told everyone to "do whatever you want"? A good example of why law exists.

  • @iamjaiguy
    @iamjaiguy3 жыл бұрын

    So would a better definition for freedom rather be "self governing" as you are free from other third party influences, vices, governments, etc?

  • @insidetrip101

    @insidetrip101

    3 жыл бұрын

    The definition of freedom is the ability to choose the Good.

  • @lostzephyr2191

    @lostzephyr2191

    3 жыл бұрын

    His definition of freedom is "Having the ability to choose anything other than what I (god) consider good stripped away from you." If freedom exists at all, that's not freedom.

  • @gast-vn5xy
    @gast-vn5xy2 жыл бұрын

    For me, choosing the second man is a no brainer.

  • @MrSplonger
    @MrSplonger3 жыл бұрын

    Change the question! Who is more free? Person number one who is not addicted to drugs but lives in a society which allows for that sort of thing, or person number two who is not addicted to drugs and lives in a society which would scold him for drug use? Being coerced into doing the right thing makes you less free than thinking about life and then using that thought to do the right thing.

  • @MrSplonger

    @MrSplonger

    3 жыл бұрын

    A good government way want to 'inform' or 'guide' people to be more mindful, but straight up locking people in jail for doing things that are bad for them or leave them with less self-control really does not make them more free.

  • @chrislantern9272
    @chrislantern92723 жыл бұрын

    listening to this rolling a joint lol

  • @Youuuuuu
    @Youuuuuu3 жыл бұрын

    Read this on your website a bit ago, very nice

  • @jayst
    @jayst3 жыл бұрын

    There is absolutely nothing free about being a drug addict. Drug addiction is the most tight and painful shackle anyone can wear.

  • @Usertrappedindatabase
    @Usertrappedindatabase3 жыл бұрын

    I've already read this on your site but thank you for the memes. Omnes aequo animo parent ubi digni imperant - All men cheerfully obey where worthy men rule. (Syrus)

  • @TheTrojan665
    @TheTrojan6653 жыл бұрын

    Based and Christ-pilled

  • @shallex5744

    @shallex5744

    3 жыл бұрын

    the most based thing is for someone to admit that they have 0 knowledge about anything beyond the tangible world. to profess otherwise is foolish

  • @epicwin2513

    @epicwin2513

    3 жыл бұрын

    careful, people will voice their opinions like they actually matter

  • @momonla5718
    @momonla57183 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Luke, Keep up the great work

  • @5dot2dot0dot5dot
    @5dot2dot0dot5dot3 жыл бұрын

    The individual who's actions are determined more by the weight of their impulses and addictions, rather than their own decisions, is the slave. So to is the individual who's actions are determined more by the pressures of their society and the force of law rather than by their own decisions. The free one acts neither by coercion nor force, but by having access to reason and knowledge to conclude for themselves what is right. If you haven't read it already, I recommend Wilhelm Von Humboldt's "Sphere and Duties of Govt."

  • @JBroughton2

    @JBroughton2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most people aren’t rationale free thinkers, but products of the cathedral and the elites above them. Most don’t make rational planned out decisions, as shown with things like drug addiction, crime, and obesity. Would government force fix these things in 2021? Not necessarily, I don’t think so, just look at the drug war. A gradual subversion/infiltration of the higher power structures, and a revitalization of spirituality and heritage would greatly help, but these things would take a long time. The libertarian approach of legalizing everything, would be a disaster, look no further than California or Colorado. Addiction rates would skyrocket, it would destroy the already rotten fabric of Western society. Drug addiction and suicide rates have greatly increased in the last half century.

  • @duartefh88
    @duartefh883 жыл бұрын

    My boy, telling me to stop smoking, something I want to do for a few months now

  • @ekksoku

    @ekksoku

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stop smoking

  • @zac2384

    @zac2384

    3 жыл бұрын

    What he said ^

  • @kastoraspol

    @kastoraspol

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah started smoking a few months ago,just don't do it man,you ll be wasting your money and even by hedonistic standards you won't enjoy it after a while

  • @theyeking7023

    @theyeking7023

    3 жыл бұрын

    A cigar won't get you addicted if you really want to start. Nicotine addiction is overblown.

  • @wylad

    @wylad

    3 жыл бұрын

    read Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking

  • @JoeHeine
    @JoeHeine2 жыл бұрын

    He’s not free, he’s just a different type of slave

  • @davidc2173
    @davidc21733 жыл бұрын

    i thought about freedom as the representation of the individual in his group's common interests. otherwise it's no different than slavery since the product of his existence loses value in the long term

  • @Iridesca
    @Iridesca2 жыл бұрын

    Nobody wants to be addicted to drugs. Giving in to vices that harm you will never make you happy, and is not in your interests

  • @ElliotWilks_
    @ElliotWilks_3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on gomuks the matrix client, It would be good to be able to have all instant messaging messages in one place on the terminal?

  • @Hector-nx4js
    @Hector-nx4js3 жыл бұрын

    real chads are those who have read this on his blog before it went on youtube

  • @marcs9451

    @marcs9451

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've cringed then, and I cringe now.

  • @red_Sun24
    @red_Sun242 жыл бұрын

    this argument is essentially the ideology of anti-gun activism...

  • @aemilianusmartinus5472
    @aemilianusmartinus54723 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Luke. I much needed this.

  • @jacquesbonhomme8198
    @jacquesbonhomme8198 Жыл бұрын

    Man is too wicked to be free - Joseph De Maistre

  • @07thunderhawk
    @07thunderhawk3 жыл бұрын

    God bless you! I just found your channel and it is nothing more than spectacular. This world is so messed up and it's easy to get distracted from the only thing that matters, the Cross.

  • @joelabarge7903
    @joelabarge79033 жыл бұрын

    This is great, thank you

  • @iyadahmed3773
    @iyadahmed37733 жыл бұрын

    You talked about important issues very elegantly

  • @marciomaiajr
    @marciomaiajr3 жыл бұрын

    Probably Luke's best video to date.

  • @Joey29776
    @Joey297763 жыл бұрын

    The ideals conveyed here are seriously at odds with your whole "I dont want to gov spying on me" thing.

  • @MrEdrftgyuji

    @MrEdrftgyuji

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or the "Everything I want to do is illegal" video.

  • @GagyiLaszlo
    @GagyiLaszlo2 жыл бұрын

    The most free person is the one who can enjoy the drugs responsibly. Someone who's neither addicted to it, nor barred from it.

  • @saymehname
    @saymehname3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this

  • @herbslife-miscusi
    @herbslife-miscusi3 жыл бұрын

    I was very surprised to see a quote from Ignatius Brianchaninov. Greetings from the Orthodox! :) BTW I love your posts about stuff like that and Unix stuff. I even set up my computer environment based on LARBS. So thank you a lot!

  • @user-cm5eg6vv1v

    @user-cm5eg6vv1v

    2 жыл бұрын

    Да, есть такое

  • @weggygaygay9940
    @weggygaygay99403 жыл бұрын

    mr smith I think u’d enjoy the acid horizon poscast they focus on french pomos and it’s pretty cool

  • @ivan_says_hi
    @ivan_says_hi2 жыл бұрын

    Man I came to this channel because I wanted to learn about Linux but now I am reconsidering how much control my vices have over my life. Like even working from home or studying I would work for maybe an hour or 2 then I have to play a match of csgo. I tell myself it's healthy to take a break, the change of pace has a net positive effect on my productivity etc. But in reality I feel like I am in a constant negotiation with a vice I have no real control over. Like I promise to myself that if I can get through another day of work I can finally do what I wanted to do the whole time (play cs), when I finally hear that stupid main menu music just this utter calm washes over me, like I know for the next hour or two everything will be okay. Is this what an addict feels when they use? Am I an addict? Can I get CSP and screen drawing tablets to work on Linux even if they only have windows drivers available? The fact that I need my drawing tablet for school is the only thing keeping me from fuckin uninstalling windows for good. God I hate counter strike so much.

  • @schukaproallied9834
    @schukaproallied98343 жыл бұрын

    I love this kind of videos. And the memes alwasy make me laugh

  • @hedgeearthridge6807
    @hedgeearthridge68073 жыл бұрын

    It's an old conflict of "Freedom FROM" vs "Freedom TO". Freedom FROM drugs and freedom TO do drugs, are both freedoms. Freedom FROM (in a healthy form) is based on self-government. You choose what you want to be a servant/slave to, whether good or bad. Freedom TO has most to do with civil government. The Biblical stance on this is that of Theonomy. The government should be purely judicial, and the only civil laws should be the ones God gave. There are no victimless crimes in God's civil law. Someone else's health, freedom (TO/FROM), or economic value must be harmed. Theft (and destruction of property), assault, rape, manstealing (kidnapping, hostage taking, human trafficking, imprisonment, etc), and murder are the things God set to be punishable by civil law. You have the civil freedom TO be a womanizer or prostitute or be addicted to things, or anything else. But that's between you and God, and you are a slave to Sin in that case, lacking freedom FROM as part of the punishment for sin. If you harm yourself with your sin, well you're getting what you deserve and you're being punished. If you hurt OTHERS with your sin, that's different. In the cases of assault and theft, you pay back the economic damage you caused, times 2 or 4 or whatever the Judge decides. In the case of rape, manstealing, and especially murder, you will be executed by the community. (Think: nobody has an issue with killing people to stop rape, kidnapping, and murder. We all know that those are capital crimes). This FROM/TO concept is heavily twisted today though. You have people trying to outlaw "hate speech" because they think people have a freedom FROM getting their feelings hurt. According to the Bible, yes it is a sin to mistreat people, but that's not a crime. Again that's between you and God and you will be responsible for it in the Final Judgement. You also have people trying to illegalize possession of weapons and drugs. God never forbade that. (Actually he forbade Executive governments (which are a pagan invention) from stockpiling weapons ("horses and chariots), but that gets ignored) And illegalizing immigration/emigration. God has some pretty stern things to say in the Bible about those who mistreat the foreigner, sojourner, and stranger. God's policy is to welcome all immigrants; let them come learn to be Christians and learn the blessings of being a Christian nation. (Exodus 22:21 and 23:9, Leviticus 19:33-34, Zechariah 7:9-10, Matthew 25, Hebrews 13:2, etc) God also promises curses on those nations and peoples that mistreat and forbid immigrants. Again, the freedom TO migrate is not restricted by God, rather encouraged. The freedom FROM having to be nice to immigrants and live with them, does not exist to God. Seeking such is pagan. (The Stranger, the Orphan, and the Widow are protected people to God. Those who mistreat them will be punished extra-severely (Deut 27:19)

  • @kenny-kvibe
    @kenny-kvibe3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your definition of freedom, it is aike the choice from strength to be your pure self. Good philosophy you have there, we must go deeper!

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Freedom: the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Apparently you think your “pure self” can only be actualized once you give authority over your consciousness to the government.

  • @kenny-kvibe

    @kenny-kvibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oxydreamer How is that what I've written apparent like so? I disagree, the authority will always try to have control over you, making you less "pure self", so no external authority here, just yours + the strength to break loose of those forced restraints that those authorities do imply. Freedom is not a power nor a right, it is a state of being.

  • @oxydreamer

    @oxydreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kenny Your speech confuses me. Do you think a governing body telling you what you can or cannot consume is an example of freedom? Because that is what Luke is saying and I cannot tell if you agree with that or not...

  • @kenny-kvibe

    @kenny-kvibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oxydreamer listen @ 4:33 - 5:03

  • @kenny-kvibe

    @kenny-kvibe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you misplaced something of what I've written with something you thought.

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