What is Atheism? (Atheism vs Agnosticism Explained)

Atheism vs agnosticism: what is the difference? There are no linguistic authorities, however I thought I'd offer my 2¢.
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  • @CosmicSkeptic
    @CosmicSkeptic7 жыл бұрын

    Do you call yourself an atheist or an agnostic? Or something else? Also, subscribe to Rationality Rules here: kzread.info/dron/qZMgLgGlYAWvSU8lZ9xiVg.html

  • @robbertmouthaan2725

    @robbertmouthaan2725

    7 жыл бұрын

    CosmicSkeptic atheïst, because I'ts more a lack of belief then it is a doubtful view at religion

  • @lilly4836

    @lilly4836

    7 жыл бұрын

    CosmicSkeptic I am very much an agnostic atheist

  • @Bruh-uf4et

    @Bruh-uf4et

    7 жыл бұрын

    Agnostic atheist, since I can't disprove god, but I can say that he probably doesn't exist.

  • @wizard1103

    @wizard1103

    7 жыл бұрын

    Atheist

  • @matthewlineham8373

    @matthewlineham8373

    7 жыл бұрын

    CosmicSkeptic agnostic antitheist

  • @warpo007
    @warpo0077 жыл бұрын

    We better crowdfund Alex a $20 whiteboard and markers!

  • @scambammer6102

    @scambammer6102

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is inconsistent to say "I don't know if there is a god" and "I don't believe there is a god." The second statement implies at least some degree of evidence toward disbelief. It is not a "neutral" position. The neutral position would be simply "I don't know" and leave it at that.

  • @JinnyFallon

    @JinnyFallon

    9 ай бұрын

    @@scambammer6102 You're trying to interpret "I don't believe there is a god" as something more than it actually is. If you don't believe, it means you don't believe. It means you simply do not possess a belief. It doesn't imply anything about disbelief, only about the belief. If you can agree that belief and knowledge are two different things, then the neutral position would be to say "I don't know, and I don't believe."

  • @scambammer6102

    @scambammer6102

    9 ай бұрын

    @@JinnyFallon "the neutral position would be to say "I don't know, and I don't believe" Correct. That is NOT a rejection of god and theism. But KZread atheists and their cult pretend that it is. They also get knowledge and belief wrong. Knowledge isn't a subset of belief. Both knowledge and belief exist on a spectrum, and often correlate, but not always.

  • @JinnyFallon

    @JinnyFallon

    9 ай бұрын

    @@scambammer6102 I guess you have a point. Like this guy in the video said, anti-theism is a subset of atheism. Idk who you’re watching but as an atheist, the people I watch are usually atheists who are not anti-theists.

  • @turvytophat7470
    @turvytophat74707 жыл бұрын

    I love that he made an actually graph, nerds are amazing

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    3 жыл бұрын

    that he actually made a graph*

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. ^_^

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    3 жыл бұрын

    And that makes you an idiot part is funny and true. XD Near Death Experiences are good, but the views are debatable. It's usually a ball of energy. It seems most people interpret a deity as a human-like figure.

  • @nevermind2.09

    @nevermind2.09

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked i believe that was the joke

  • @HolyKoolaid
    @HolyKoolaid7 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty spot on. I've been active in the atheist community for some time, and most atheists I encounter self-identify as agnostic atheists. I'm a gnostic atheist towards the Christian, Muslim, and Hindu gods because science disproves their holy books, but I'm an agnostic atheist if we're just talking about some impersonal deistic god out there somewhere.

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to say my position is precisely the same as yours, anti-theism only really works in the case of clearly defined organised religion.

  • @mattkk4120

    @mattkk4120

    7 жыл бұрын

    Holy Koolaid pretty much my position also

  • @Dr.Turkey

    @Dr.Turkey

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've always seen anti-theists as more people who fight the growing of religion because they (fairly, imo) think it has too many negative consequences like halting scientific progress

  • @Dr.Turkey

    @Dr.Turkey

    7 жыл бұрын

    Rather what I was trying to say I suppose is that anti-theists aren't necessarily gnostic, they just see problems with religion and are against it spreading unless it can be proven

  • @karlwilzen

    @karlwilzen

    7 жыл бұрын

    Holy Koolaid How can you be gnostic about the non - existence of a Christian god just because the bible is flawed? Imagine for a moment that you were a powerful being who intervened in the lives of less powerful beings. Would a flawed record made by these lesser beings be enough to conclude that you, the person who inspired them, don't exist. I don't think so. From my perspective agnostic atheism is the reasonable position to take, even in regards to specific gods.

  • @gary_buckley
    @gary_buckley6 жыл бұрын

    “Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe.” - Thomas Huxley

  • @TerryProthero

    @TerryProthero

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Gary Buckley Atheists often try to define what an agnostic is while ignoring the statements of the man who actually coined the term in the first place. Some terms have a history that needs to be taken into account. If you look at his statements further, he had an even bigger problem with atheists than theists. He definitely did not consider himself either one.

  • @sariahlace5944

    @sariahlace5944

    3 жыл бұрын

    💯💯💯👍👍👍👊👊👊

  • @hermitpal6002
    @hermitpal60027 жыл бұрын

    I think anti-theist and gnostic atheist is being mixed up here. anti-theists are people who are against organised religion, its not a statement of knowledge. 'I am an agnostic anti-theist atheist' is not a contradiction. 'I am an agnostic gnostic atheist' is a contradiction.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I was about to post the same thing. I consider anti-theism to mean: "one who *opposes* theism." Which says nothing of if you claim to *know* or *believe* god to be real/true. "gnostic atheist" or "strong atheist" should have been used instead. IMO

  • @XEZ616

    @XEZ616

    7 жыл бұрын

    Spot-on!

  • @jesscool1991

    @jesscool1991

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hermit Pal Absolutely. Too many mistakes. However, I feel, even that doesn't do justice. Gnostic Atheist would mean that the person KNOWS that there is no god. That completely depends on his definition. However, what will be the word for a person who BELIEVES that there is no god? I cannot find a word for it!

  • @hermitpal6002

    @hermitpal6002

    7 жыл бұрын

    that word really is just atheism most of the time. Words are just for communication purposes, it is something to communicate ideas to someone. If you don't believe in a God, your simply an atheist If you want to add that your not certain, your called an agnostic atheist. agnostic and gnostic are adjectives to describe a person's position of knowledge on his self-described religious of irreligious state.

  • @ADerpyReality

    @ADerpyReality

    7 жыл бұрын

    This is how the future go god go episodes of south park started. What they fought over? What should we call ourselves?

  • @astasvanebacchus8406
    @astasvanebacchus84067 жыл бұрын

    I have to say Cosmic, I truly find that you are the single best youtuber to dig into such concepts. Your reasonable, researched and unbelievably polite argumentation, sets a great example for all trying to tackle the whole "religion" debate. Especially since arguments on such, most often ends in the equivalent of one party covering their ears and screaming at the other, that they are wrong. Being raised as an atheist myself, and being raised in country where that wasn't frowned upon, left me only recently being exposed to people challenging my opinion. That made me realize that I could hardly fault religious people, for being religious, just because the were raised to be so, when the only concrete reason for not being so myself, was the exact same. Therefore I decided to seriously look in to the pro's and con's of each side. Though I did end up remaining an atheist, I came out of it, not only with a fair amount of arguments against the existence of God, to engage in intelligent debate with people who would disagree with me, but I also ended up discovering your channel, which has become a favorite of mine. Keep up the wonderful work, friend!

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you for the generous words. It means a lot!

  • @Phoenix-pb4sm

    @Phoenix-pb4sm

    7 жыл бұрын

    Asta Svane Bacchus Can't beat TAA though He's the Michael Jordan of YT atheism

  • @yeatnumber1Dmuncher

    @yeatnumber1Dmuncher

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CosmicSkeptic you answered comments back then?

  • @SaiyaraLBS

    @SaiyaraLBS

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@yeatnumber1Dmuncher I K R I'm getting jealous now xD

  • @nevermind2.09

    @nevermind2.09

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yeatnumber1Dmuncher lmao i wish he did that now 😢

  • @TheInselaffen
    @TheInselaffen7 жыл бұрын

    Get some rest Alex, you look tired.

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sleep is for the weak

  • @victordanielcatalan1808

    @victordanielcatalan1808

    7 жыл бұрын

    Organon TBNR; The Best Never Rest.

  • @kathryngeeslin9509

    @kathryngeeslin9509

    7 жыл бұрын

    CosmicSkeptic Say the young - exactly when they most need it. Guard your health. Please.

  • @budd2nd

    @budd2nd

    7 жыл бұрын

    He's just had his 18th Birthday. So, he should look like he's "enjoyed" himself.

  • @jnicholls21

    @jnicholls21

    7 жыл бұрын

    Alright, Jason Bourne...

  • @sociallibertarian7723
    @sociallibertarian77237 жыл бұрын

    agnostic - I dont know the answer in stuff thats not proven atheist - Dont believe in stuff thats not been proven its that simple

  • @0Regnier

    @0Regnier

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Bellataina I'm not sure you got the point of the video, or what Dustin was saying. You can be agnostic, but you're STILL either a theist or an atheist. Trying to pretend agnosticism is an entirely separate thing, on its own, that somehow exists between these two positions is silly.

  • @Mgoblagulkablong

    @Mgoblagulkablong

    7 жыл бұрын

    It has never been proven that santa claus does not exist, but no one says "i don't know"...

  • @Tim3shark

    @Tim3shark

    7 жыл бұрын

    "agnostic's are just atheists who are a tad bit more open-minded and accepting of those who are different. they also are not paranoid in thinking that literally everything in this planet is trying to make them 'convert to something'" - *Lol, wow. I guess you don't know how many atheist actively examine religions and beliefs trying to find any truth in them. Or how many of us really want there to be something out there but just can't believe without any evidence. Agnostics don't think that the knowledge can exist, but you call them more open minded? (this is the definition or agnostic, but not how it is used most often... I'm sort of being an ass in the last statement :P)*

  • @OfficiallyR3levant

    @OfficiallyR3levant

    7 жыл бұрын

    Most agnostics are atheists but just don't want to admit it because they don't understand that being atheist isn't a terrible thing.

  • @OfficiallyR3levant

    @OfficiallyR3levant

    7 жыл бұрын

    No it isn't. You can be both. Agnosticism/gnosticism deals with knowledge, theism/atheism deals with belief.

  • @carlottathefriendlyperson7710
    @carlottathefriendlyperson77107 жыл бұрын

    Amazing, well worded, honest and articulate. Quality video. I am impressed as always. Will definitely have a loot at Rationality Rules.

  • @alikhoobiary6595
    @alikhoobiary65957 жыл бұрын

    Your definition of Gnosticism is incorrect Alex. 3:40 It (The upper part of the y axis) doesn't mean "I know there is no god" it means "I have knowledge on whether god exists or not" Gnostic Theism means: "I have knowledge of God's existence and I believe in him."

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree I should have labeled the graph better. The Y axis wasn't supposed to represent "knowledge" vs "no knowledge" but rather "knowledge that there is no god" vs "no knowledge that there is no god".

  • @alikhoobiary6595

    @alikhoobiary6595

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's your channel (which I very much enjoy) but I would add an annotation and/or make some form of correction. Providing clear basic definitions for each of these four spaces both reduces infighting between people who identify as Agnostics and people who identify as Atheists and also clear out the perceptions about Atheism = satanism. It's as important as explaining theory v scientific theory. Especially for an educator which I sense you're striving to be.

  • @xipheonj

    @xipheonj

    7 жыл бұрын

    You still have it wrong then, or at least made the graph more confusing than every other version I've seen. The purpose of the knowledge axis is to represent gnostisism in general "I have knowledge of god's existence", not the specific claim "there is no god." It only becomes god or no god when it moves on the atheist or theist axis. As you got that graph from The Atheist Experience notice that they don't use your version of the vertical axis, they use gnosticism as you implied you were using in your setup. I think I see that you're trying to make the gnostic atheist quadrant simpler to understand but at the cost of not representing gnostic theists at all (for which there are many more than gnostic atheists).

  • @RobertTempleton64

    @RobertTempleton64

    7 жыл бұрын

    But again, the general terms 'gnostic' and 'agnostic' literally mean 'having knowledge' and 'without having knowledge'. God, in this context, is simply assumed. And we know how that goes.

  • @PascalRibaux

    @PascalRibaux

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree that with the general terms Belief+Gnostic should be a Gnostic Theist "I know that god exists and believe he does" and Belief+Agnostic would be an Agnostic Theist " I don't know that god exists but still believe he does".

  • @HebiSnake
    @HebiSnake7 жыл бұрын

    Glad you made this video. I've told people this so many times in debates that it gets tiring. Now I can just link this.

  • @Vvalox
    @Vvalox7 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you shouted out Rationality Rules, he makes fantastic videos and I myself am already a Patron of his. I'll let him know of this act of kindness :)

  • @Djfletch978
    @Djfletch9787 жыл бұрын

    "You know there is no god, and you believe in god. Frankly that makes you an idiot" I'm so using that one!

  • @elliot7205

    @elliot7205

    2 жыл бұрын

    How can you deny something that does not exist.

  • @elliot7205

    @elliot7205

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliast4939 you miss the point, in order to deny a unicorn you had to concieve of it in the first place. You cannot deny something that does not exist! Are you able to think of something that cannot be thought of?..

  • @elliot7205

    @elliot7205

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliast4939 that is not what I am saying, what i am talking about is beyond that. You see to conceive of ideas true or false is based on existing information as to establish a new idea science uses observation of things that exist proving the point one cannot think of something that does not exist therefore the creator exists based on existing information science can prove the existence of the creator based on current knowledge and observation the proviso being the scientific method would have to be reconsidered to fit everything that exists.

  • @SalamanderMagic
    @SalamanderMagic7 жыл бұрын

    I love the analogies you use. It really simplifies the explanation and makes things easy to understand. :)

  • @katem.9957
    @katem.99577 жыл бұрын

    your explanation on this was so much better and easier to understand than the other ones I've seen, now I can finally explain this to people I know better

  • @sullivan3503
    @sullivan35037 жыл бұрын

    Lol, I'm getting PragerU ads on this video.

  • @sarcastichearts
    @sarcastichearts7 жыл бұрын

    "...and frankly that just makes you an idiot" BRILLIANT

  • @korbendallas5318

    @korbendallas5318

    4 жыл бұрын

    A brilliant joke at best, and I don't think it that's good.

  • @karlmarxwasright
    @karlmarxwasright7 жыл бұрын

    This was so brilliant and refreshing. Thank you!

  • @manantank
    @manantank7 жыл бұрын

    Man, I'm a big fan of yours Your way of explaining is awesome Keep up the good work One suggestion : Could you make videos about misconceptions and stuff , that'd be great

  • @Dude-vr1gp
    @Dude-vr1gp7 жыл бұрын

    Rationality rules is a great channel. Good guy

  • @thanksfordoxingpeopleyoutube
    @thanksfordoxingpeopleyoutube7 жыл бұрын

    i thought anti theist meant you thought theism is actively bad for humanity, and with that definition you can still be agnostic. tbh i'm fed up with the confusing mix ups in the definitions of all these 'a' terms, and if it becomes a problem i just explain in more details what i think personally

  • @Freakinout14

    @Freakinout14

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yang's Right arm Same here! That's what I thought too! But again, like Alex said, we shouldn't get so caught up in definitions and labels instead actually making any kind of meaningful conversation on the topic.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Same. I thought anti-theism means you "oppose" theism. That says nothing about what you claim to know or believe.

  • @cosmicslice7267

    @cosmicslice7267

    7 жыл бұрын

    Anti-theists are generally those who don't believe in God and also wouldn't want one to exist in the first place. (Pretty much as defined by Hitch). Lawrence Krauss used to define himself that way but now calls himself an apatheist because as a scientist, he doesn't care if God exists or not as "God did it" doesn't answer any questions about the universe.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Leanne, the definition I've always heard is the same as what I get when I google it, which is as follows: *"Antitheism (sometimes anti-theism) is the opposition to theism. The term has had a range of applications. In secular contexts, it typically refers to direct opposition to organized religion or to the belief in any deity."* So, technically one could believe in god/s, even claim to know there is a god, yet still *oppose* theism.

  • @cosmicslice7267

    @cosmicslice7267

    7 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the Dictionary of Hitch. ;-)

  • @stardust-pw1qu
    @stardust-pw1qu7 жыл бұрын

    I love how the stack of books at the back has grown since the first videos. btw, great videos.

  • @ryanwesterfield8638
    @ryanwesterfield86387 жыл бұрын

    This was extremely well done. Good Job

  • @stephenwild6436
    @stephenwild64367 жыл бұрын

    Alex, I am a 60 year old highly intelligent man, and you are amazing. I see a very bright future for you. I grew up an Evangelical born again Christian who was always frustrated with the lack of evidence of God. I am also gay, and suffered immense pychological abuse from my church. I am now out and finally have my "label", an agnostic atheist. I call myself an atheist for a shorter label. As I deal with the pychological abuse I suffered, and the anger I feel, it amazes me my educated friends and family, especially my gay friends, believe in God still. I've posted some unpopular FB posts to that effect. But as much as I truly miss the emotional positive of my former beliefs and Christian community, there is no turning back for me, short of a visitation from a glowing angel. Keep up the good work. By the way, have you decided on a career yet? Biologist maybe?

  • @azuregriffin1116

    @azuregriffin1116

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cool story. I think the opinion of someone 4 times my age is some evidence that I'm not just some edgy, rebellious teen.

  • @datboi42

    @datboi42

    Жыл бұрын

    Believe in God, or believe in "a" God?

  • @CampingforCool41
    @CampingforCool417 жыл бұрын

    The simple explanation is that gnosticism/agnosticism deals with claims of knowledge, while theism/atheism deals with claims of belief. You can be a gnostic atheist (you claim to know there is not god) or an agnostic atheist (don't believe in god, but don't claim to know there isn't a god). You can also be an agnostic theist, or a gnostic theist.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Correct.

  • @baguettely

    @baguettely

    6 жыл бұрын

    CampingforCool41 a gnostic theist is someone who knows that there is no God but believes in Him anyway. Not the best position to have

  • @marekbana463
    @marekbana4637 жыл бұрын

    @cosmicsceptic I like you even more when i saw that Focusrite scarlett and marshall in the background :) good job man. keep it up.

  • @outcast3121
    @outcast31216 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, Alex!

  • @timgeurts
    @timgeurts7 жыл бұрын

    Ignoring your videos for days in my recommendations; I was like: ah fuck that just another super ego angry atheist nah I've seen enough. But you are actually really calm and logical. I like it. New subscriber (:

  • @jamo6079

    @jamo6079

    7 жыл бұрын

    I can relate to that. CultOfDusty or AmazingAtheist are neither respectful nor rational, in my view, and I loathe the fact that they represent the atheist community to some.

  • @sofiarodriguez6768

    @sofiarodriguez6768

    6 жыл бұрын

    I could not think of a good username RIGHT

  • @savagechicken4518

    @savagechicken4518

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamo6079 I guess I'm lucky I found the actually intelligent atheist, thank goodness for atheist like cosmicskeptic

  • @nicoarete8189
    @nicoarete81897 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex, love your videos. GNOSTIC ATHEIST I am a gnostic atheist when it comes to the gods I have heard described in tales of Christianity, Hinduism etc. AGNOSTIC I am an agnostic when it comes down to a creator, since I find it plausible that the world is a simulation. IGNOSTIC ATHEIST When talking to other people, I'd rather not assume what they believe from what I know of the religion they adhere to. I'd much rather take the stance of an ignostic atheist since ignosticism requires a coherent, non-controversial definition of god before arguing on its existence. Then once the definition is established, we can discuss the existence of such a thing. My experience of theological discussions When having been approached by people trying to convert me to a life of faith, I have asked them of a way to test if God exists and I've yet to get a definition or test suggested. This either led them to refer to the requirement of faith, explain away my suggestions for testing (such as prayer) or led them to question their own faith. I find it quite easy to convince people who actually believe in God, that no such thing exists, since there is often abundant things that speak against their many common beliefs. It is much harder to convince people who believe in the virtue of believing in God. Commonly phrased as "belief in belief". They know what observation to explain away before doing the test and might even convince themselves.

  • @kennethfrawley
    @kennethfrawley7 жыл бұрын

    'Exceeding;y well-produced graph,' best bit ever! Research and shtick, make you my fav on KZread. You, my young lad, are just what the world needs. Well done!

  • @diegosena891
    @diegosena8917 жыл бұрын

    hey Thanks for uploading a video in my birthday love the channel thanks for your hard work.

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Happy birthday Diego! Only a few days after my own. Have a good one.

  • @diegosena891

    @diegosena891

    7 жыл бұрын

    thanks you too

  • @renansoto9424
    @renansoto94247 жыл бұрын

    You're cool. Keep making videos.

  • @mushie4445
    @mushie44457 жыл бұрын

    i love u so much youre so eloquent god damn

  • @plantpowered269
    @plantpowered2693 жыл бұрын

    Love birds chirping after your videos! Beside it is a nice touch, it reminds me of the Doctor Who episode "Dream lord" (11th doctor) when they needed to wake up to another reality, and the birds' chirping was the sound of the transition, but then they wake up again and again, and they need to bet their lives on which reality is real. P.s. subscribed to the recommended channel.

  • @akiranightfury9319
    @akiranightfury93197 жыл бұрын

    Awesome topic, awesome explanation!

  • @TheRealVince99
    @TheRealVince997 жыл бұрын

    Antitheism is just being against theism, not knowing that there is no God

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @michaeldromes3948

    @michaeldromes3948

    7 жыл бұрын

    it can be both

  • @TheRealVince99

    @TheRealVince99

    7 жыл бұрын

    Michael Dromes No, it is a different thing. There are theists who believe in malevolent God's that they do not worship, who would be considered antitheists.

  • @michaeldromes3948

    @michaeldromes3948

    7 жыл бұрын

    *can*

  • @TheRealVince99

    @TheRealVince99

    7 жыл бұрын

    Michael Dromes No, they are terms with different definitions.

  • @atps
    @atps5 жыл бұрын

    Ah, the "idiot" category made me laugh so hard!

  • @AhmedAlMisri
    @AhmedAlMisri7 жыл бұрын

    Amazing channel Alex! Although I must admit I sometimes find it difficult focusing on your video due to trying to figure out the books on your desk! Have you considered making a video about your "reading" list?? Do you have a Goodreads account people can look up??

  • @ancantiladodecaminante623
    @ancantiladodecaminante6236 жыл бұрын

    Alex, you are one of the most knowledgeable and well-spoken people I have ever heard. It wouldn't surprise me if you became famous for all the right reasons...a world-renowned professor or author. I think the sky is the limit for you. Thank you sharing your knowledge and wisdom (well beyond your years I might add)

  • @rosalina9768
    @rosalina97684 жыл бұрын

    I've been struggling with suicidality since I was very young. Startlingly young. I would like some advice pertaining to finding/forging meaning in a postmodern world, and any tips on dealing with suicidal thoughts. Thanks, much love

  • @questionasker8791

    @questionasker8791

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Adams - Have you seen a psychologist? Given that you’ve struggled with this for a long time, there is a good chance you have, but I wanted to start there.

  • @rosalina9768

    @rosalina9768

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@questionasker8791 I have it, it does help alot. I guess I'm just curious to see some of these answers

  • @questionasker8791

    @questionasker8791

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rosalina9768 It's hard to really help you without knowing much about your current situation. This was initially why I suggested a psychologist. I find that I get satisfaction from things that I can control in life. Finding structure in my life. Completing projects, whether that is something that you do at work or at school, or things around the house. I am learning some new skills that I never imagined ever having, like finishing my basement. I enjoy learning new things. Don't set expectations that are too high, but just take incremental steps in life to make it more and more enjoyable.

  • @rosalina9768

    @rosalina9768

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@questionasker8791 right, the meaning of life is to give life meaning

  • @anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023
    @anarcho-boulangistllamaent20237 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Id call myself an agnostic because I dont necessarily 100% disbelieve in a supernatural being. Believing or not believing in things is always a kind of difficult matter, I just acknowledge that there isnt enough proof out there to back up the existence of a god.

  • @rossatron2050

    @rossatron2050

    8 ай бұрын

    It sounds like you're saying you're not convinced that a god exists, which would make you an atheist. No?

  • @crocdoc2
    @crocdoc27 жыл бұрын

    Nice job. So many people get this wrong and I get tired of explaining it. Now I'll just link to this video. :)

  • @Rave.-
    @Rave.-7 жыл бұрын

    xD I love the Quadrant 1 (upper right) on your graph. Couldn't stop laughing, immediately paused the video to comment. Also, subbed to your unfortunate new friend. I believe he may end up not regretting his mistake due to wonderful support such as yourself.

  • @arcadiagreen150
    @arcadiagreen1507 жыл бұрын

    graph made me laugh. because the top right hand corner makes up 70% of the United states lmao

  • @ashleyez2022
    @ashleyez20227 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you made a video on this because I see so many people get mistaken by the term 'agnostic'

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of people still will.

  • @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    3 жыл бұрын

    God/Christ Jesus does not listen to the unbelievers prayers. Because they do not love God first today forever. Even Christ Jesus told people there going to burn in hell forever and ever. Because they don't love God first today forever. God/Christ Jesus made the big bang that you atheists love so much. And God made evolution that you atheists love so much. You atheists love denying it. God has no love for those who die an atheist. God has no love for those who die loving porn more than God. You do not understand that God is a Jealous God. God hates atheists so much and every person that loves them self to much. That God made a hell because God hates them so much. And everyone who does not love God first today forever is going to be thrown into hell to burn for all of eternity. You say you want to burn in hell for all of eternity but on judgment day from God. You will be begging God and crying to God not to throw you into hell. But God will tell you it is to late. You choose to burn in hell for all of eternity. Mary is still dead waiting to go to heaven. Mary is still dead. There is no verse that says Mary instantly went to heaven. Those who do get to heaven on judgment day from God become saints for God. Not angels. Stupid jehovas witness. You make people burn in hell! for all of eternity! with you're fake! jehovas witness religion. You jehovas witness have a bad version book that is so fake. Read the original book. The original book. Says hell is forever. Says the fire in hell is never turned down. It says the atheists that did not love God first and those who did not love God first are all thrown into hell to burn for all of eternity. Because they did not love God first today forever. Most people burn in hell for all of eternity. You jews religion is false. Even God hates most jews and muslims. Because jews and muslims both false religion of being a good person makes you go to heaven. Only loving God first today forever makes you go to heaven. And not everyone loves God first today forever. Meaning God throws most people into hell to burn for all of eternity. With the demons to torment them in hell forever. There is no verse that says the orthodox who die instantly go to heaven. There is only one God. A God is not going to make gods. Dumb mormons. The koran says Adam is 90 feet tall. Your Koran is very fake. Muhammad is a pedophila the worst person ever. You Muslims kiss a stone your Islam religion is very fake. There is only one God and there are no gods beside him. Love God first today forever. God is the creator of the universe. Love God first today forever and you will be saved. Blessed is the one who has not seen and believes in God. And God throws atheists into hell to burn forever. Because they did not love God first. God allowed demons to be born. Demons are from the creation of God. And God makes the demons work in hell to torment and hurt you atheists forever and ever in hell. You atheists are going to grind and knash you're teeth in hell forever. After a thousand years of burning in hell. It is only the beginning. Everybody knows who God is on judgment day from God. The name of God is known. On judgment day from God. You will see that God has 1 hole in his left and right hand. And 1 hole in his right and left foot. Because God let himself be put on cross to show you that there is no greater love than him. Love God first and love Christ Jesus first today forever. Because Christ Jesus was God in the flesh with the holy spirit it's 3 in one. Love God first today forever so you don't burn in hell forever and ever. And Love God first today forever so you aren't tormented by demons in hell forever. But you will most likely burn in hell forever and ever. Because you don't love God/Christ Jesus first today forever. Making any deal with a demon makes you burn in hell forever and ever. God/Christ Jesus does not forgive this. It says this in revelation. There is more on why God does not forgive this. But if I told you it won't go good for you. God/Christ Jesus is going to throw you into hell to burn forever and ever. With the demons to torment you in hell forever. Because you did not love God/Christ Jesus first today forever.

  • @ashleyez2022

    @ashleyez2022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang fuck off

  • @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleyez2022 Helllllllllo

  • @AFKavya
    @AFKavya4 жыл бұрын

    Wow your way of explaining is just stupendous ... Thanku keep making vidoes ...

  • @hajiseerat000
    @hajiseerat000 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and lecture

  • @deBugReporter
    @deBugReporter7 жыл бұрын

    So the "Knowledge" stands for Knowing that you dont know? Dammit took me 2 minutes to figure that one...

  • @garirry
    @garirry7 жыл бұрын

    I consider myself a gnostic atheist. Simply because my knowledge of the world makes me strongly believe that a god (in the human sense, that is, a conscious being) of any kind is extremely unlikely, though I don't have the time to explain my position here. I still remain open for proof that god exists, but so far such proof doesn't exist.

  • @Blank46130

    @Blank46130

    7 жыл бұрын

    Garirry if you think that it is possible, even though the chance is super small, that makes you agnostic

  • @Phoenix-pb4sm

    @Phoenix-pb4sm

    7 жыл бұрын

    Garirry If you're open to the idea of a God you're not a Gnostic A Gnostic atheist KNOWS there is no god As in they are 100% certain 100% certainty leaves no room for debate

  • @garirry

    @garirry

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well then, I'll explain why. Just keep in mind that this doesn't claim that a god doesn't exist, this claims that God (in the traditional religious sense) doesn't exist. Let's start with a pretty obvious problem. So let's assume God made Earth. He carefully designs each and single alive and non-alive entity on this planet. Then he proceeds to make humans. Humans which have the capacity to destroy many parts of this carefully-designed planet. Why would he do that? But we haven't tackled the main problems. So all humans are born in sin. Those who die in sin go to Hell and those who don't go to Heaven. Why would God make these complex rules and what does sending people (who He created) into one of two locations (who I assume He made) for absolutely no purpose benefit Him? Then that leaves another problem. This also makes you ask why can humans do something God doesn't like if He made them? This also applies to people "denying" God (atheists and other religions). If God specifically makes people so that they worship him (for... some reason), then why would he 1. let "rebels" (scientists) go against him and "betray" him and 2. let other humans believe in another God completely? So now we got a lot of problems here, and I'm not even touching the science parts of this. Another issue arises when you consider why would God make Earth to begin with and who made God and how high in importance he is in the universe. We're really getting confused now just thinking about it. Another thing that is ridiculous is the whole Jesus thing. Let's start with the fact that he's apparently the son of God. So are Adam and Eve the children of God too or...? So apparently they were created from scratch but God had to have a child (who happens to be exactly like His creation) descend into Earth. But of course we have no idea why would He do that. Anyway, I can't think of anything else right now. While my arguments don't prove that these actions are impossible, it raises a LOT of questions regarding the legitimacy and logicality of the religion as a whole. And that's without mentioning ANY scientific ideas, so even if you, let's say, disagree with the theory of evolution, you can't use denial to argue my points. Unsurprisingly, most other major religions have similar problems as this. Islam and Judaism have similar problems as Christianity does, obviously as they have the same roots. The reason I claim to be gnostic is because looking at the world and how it's designed, the whole idea of a supreme being ruling everything just raises too many questions. While I agree to remain skeptical regarding the possibility of a god as a whole, I am strictly against the idea that the Christian (or Muslim, or the one in any major religion) God exists.

  • @j0hncon5tantine

    @j0hncon5tantine

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Garirry You are extremely wrong, not just likely.... GOD IS REAL AND CAN BE PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW!!! The biologically immortal organisms that lack senescence are already extremely great proof for God and his design but if you want more..... The 3 main forms of evidence that would be acceptable and legitimate in a court of law for the existence of God would be..... "Life after Death experience studies where people witness a creator God- " iands.org/resources/education/recommended-reading.html " " time.com/68381/life-beyond-death-the-science-of-the-afterlife-2/ ", .......... Multiple Studies on the effectiveness of prayer from multiple religions involving a creator God like in the book "The Divine Matrix by Gregg Braden" " www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_13?url=search-alias %3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=divine +matrix+gregg+braden&sprefix=divine+matrix%2Cstripbooks %2C195&crid=3BXKVNJABO9OK " along with other such studies proving a positive co-relation, ...... Positive co- relation to prayer in a peer reviewed study.......... jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/485161 ............ and scientific facts mentioned in the Bible before their human discovery by a divine influence, www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html ....... For example….. 1. The singing stars. Job 38:7 declares the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. It sounds like a bit of Bible poetry but not much more. After all, stars shine, not sing, right? Well, it turns out scientists have been able to convert patterns from start light into audio wavelengths, according to Discovery News. The “amount of hiss” in the audio reportedly allows scientists to measure the surface gravity on a star and gauge where it is in its stellar evolution. 2. Weight of the winds. In Job 28:25, we are told that God weighed out the wind. This one may be no more self-evident to us than it was to an ancient Israelite reader of this text. But, we know from modern science that air, since it does have mass, weighs something. You might be surprised to know how much though: an estimated one ton of air is weighing down on shoulders, according to this science site (which explains that we don’t feel it because the air is exerting its force in all directions). This is pretty basic stuff for modern scientists, but it’s quite a credit to the inerrancy of Scripture that the author of Job got it right so long ago (approximately in the second millennium BC). 3. A massive fountain of water deep beneath the Earth!!! Genesis 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." www.thesun.co.uk/news/2242110/scientists-discovered-water-from- biblical-great-flood-in-worlds-deepest-hole/ www.express.co.uk/news/weird/733026/Russia-science-Kola-borehole- Noah-floodwater-Bible-Genesis-theory-of-12 creation.com/oceans-of-water-deep-inside-the-earth "Scientists dig the world’s deepest hole - and find ‘water from NOAH’S FLOOD’ at the bottom The revelation also reportedly "disproves the myth" that the earth is made up of dry rocky layers" All these would stand the scrutiny of a judge and jury for the case of a creator Gods existence and the legitimacy of the Christian Faith!!! But I am feeling generous so I will give you two more great forms of evidence, how about this book where a forensic officer who is atheist studies and researches the Bible to see if it proves a historical Jesus and if he was murdered wrongfully? Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels www.amazon.com/Cold-Case-Christianity-Homicide-Detective- Investigates/dp/1434704696, afterward he became Christian!!! Also, why don't you just pray to God yourself and ask him if he is real? What more can I say??? Then you would have personal evidence and proof of Gods interaction yourself..... I mean, there is actually way way way more evidence for God than this but it either would go over your head or you would not understand it properly and you would question it, but this is really solid evidence and proof I have given you up above that would hold up in a court of law........... if you decide to RUN from it, at least admit to yourself that is what you are doing........ Do you believe your life, body, family and the ground you walk on are all a gift or something else? If you believe they are all something else then what do you think they all are then?

  • @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    @GODCHRISTmadeTheBigbang

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hellllllllo

  • @djynfxxbdhtbrn6854
    @djynfxxbdhtbrn68547 жыл бұрын

    is that a Marshall micro amp in the background? have you tried the Blackstar Fly 3?

  • @mrsshayful
    @mrsshayful7 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Great explanation and clarification. However, I think labels have made things in the world more complicated than it should be

  • @milk9189
    @milk91897 жыл бұрын

    I'm watching this and my aunt [who is very Christian] is about to come into the car. How edgy is that 😎😎

  • @yuzzi9190

    @yuzzi9190

    8 ай бұрын

    cringe

  • @jesscool1991
    @jesscool19917 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy! As soon as I saw the title of the video, I wanted to recommend it to a friend because I thought you would tell it well. But I have a bunch of things to point out. 1. "Disbelief" is the same as "lack of belief". I find absolutely no difference between the two. Disbelief in something doesn't mean you believe in the opposite. You can even check the definition. 2. I think using the word "anti-theist" for someone who believes that there is no god is bad and misleading. According to me, an anti-theist would be someone who is opposed to the belief in god or to organizations which promote it. I don't know if there is an exclusive word for someone who believes that there is no god. 3. In the X-Y axis thing, the first quadrant would be a gnostic theist. Lot of them out there. 4. Also, I feel that the Dell vs Mac analogy was not correct in this context,.

  • @guytheincognito4186

    @guytheincognito4186

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jesse Jordan Yes, your correct in what your saying. Also the word you're thinking of would be atheist as that is just a stance of unbelief/disbeliving, the Anti-theists are against religion as a whole. Fyi, I am an atheist because i don't believe in God, i am also anti-theist because religion itself is a Greedy manipulative and abhorrent "entity" meant to control people and their thoughts and what little good has been done in its name doesn't change it by a long shot.

  • @jesscool1991

    @jesscool1991

    7 жыл бұрын

    Guy The Incognito Of course. I am both as well. However, the word I am looking for should describe exclusively the people who believe that there is no god. They would definitely be included in the Atheist umbrella but it should be somewhat more specific. "Gnostic Atheist" also doesn't justify this category actually. Because, again, we are not talking about knowledge. We are only talking about a belief system.

  • @guytheincognito4186

    @guytheincognito4186

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jesse Jordan I see what you mean, originaly "atheist" was that specific word thou the invention of the other terms made it un-specific. atheism the word itself was invented by theists in order to paint our un-belief as some sort of belief system, it isn’t one. We simply don't believe, there never was a system to it. Atheism isn't an assurtion that God doesn't exist either(theist tend to think it is), it's just a lack of belief as previously mentioned. I'm just atheist, i see no need to add somekind of affix or something to it. And Sorry for coming off all repetitiv in my respons.

  • @jesscool1991

    @jesscool1991

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, your response was perfect. That is exactly what I feel as well.

  • @triplebackspace3623

    @triplebackspace3623

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jesse Jordan A person who makes the positive claim there is no god , would be a gnostic - I have knowledge / atheist -there is no god. Thus gnostic atheist.

  • @myster.ejones1306
    @myster.ejones13067 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex, do Globes (of Earth) for the Australian market have the south pole at the top? If not, why not? I'd value your opinion mate ☺ (I'm making a point of asking actual people, and avoiding search engines which I believe stunt interpersonal skills,)

  • @robkennedy5441
    @robkennedy54417 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Love posts that clarify agnostic atheistic without the usual attack on both.

  • @EpreTroll
    @EpreTroll7 жыл бұрын

    Spot on. Not the first time I've been told this. Most people have a way too Black-and-white view of atheism. Agnosticism is not a belief indeed. So many people out there that for some reason just can't grasp this.. Nice video

  • @cosmicskepticfangirl1356

    @cosmicskepticfangirl1356

    3 жыл бұрын

    EpreTroll Yuh, EpreTroll, I have seen your comments in Williacto, and SFF's videos... Glad to see you here

  • @AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV

    @AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV

    3 жыл бұрын

    ALL knowledge is belief. Knowledge is a subset of belief. Atheists and agnostics are both non-theists/non-believers/heathens/infidels etc. and that should be good enough for you people. *Point 1)* Common usage is NOT on your side. It's why there's still no "First Agnostic Church of Christ". Theists don't use your lacktheist-atheist terminology and neither do agnostics or deists. In fact, not even all atheists use your terminology. In common usage, there is a distinction between atheists and agnostics and that distinction is atheists believe there are no gods and agnostics have no opinion. Don't let your bubble fool you, you are in the minority. Don't be like the brainwashed Trump supporter that doesn't believe how unpopular their president was. FYI saying "a Trump supporter does not believe he was unpopular" is the same as saying "a Trump supporter believes he was not unpopular." More on that later. *Point 2)* Etymology is not on your side. Atheos + ism etymologically = "there's no god-ism" or a belief that there's no god. www.etymonline.com/word/atheist *Point 3)* English is not on your side. "I do NOT believe in God" actually in fact does mean "I believe there is NO God" just like "I do not believe the mail has arrived means the same as "I believe the mail has not arrived". This is not up for debate. www.englishforums.com/English/VerbsTransferredNegation/blnbzb/amp.htm *Point 4)* Usefulness is not on your side. You people are the only ones who give a crap about separating knowledge from belief. Nobody else cares about it anymore than they care for separating black people from humans. All knowledge is belief. Belief is an umbrella term, not a separate category. Additionally, why would I call myself an "agnostic-atheist" like Matt Dillahunty when he believes there's no god and I don't share his belief? Aaron Ra identifies as a "gnostic-atheist" but he also believes there's no god. The problem with this terminology should be VERY obvious. If you understand why it makes more sense to call apples apples and oranges oranges instead of calling them both apples then you understand the problem with calling people who believe there's no god the same thing as people who have no opinion on god. Especially when there are already multiple umbrella terms in place as previously demonstrated. Instead of trying to redefine agnosticism, you people should try to redefine deism away from theism in order to unify atheists, agnostics and deists against the common threat of standard theism. BTW, it's very stupid to speak against a malicious, omnipotent god unless you're certain he doesn't exist. Just saying. *Point 5)* BELIEVING there's no god is NOT the same thing as CLAIMING there's no god so you guys can stop lying to Christians about only lacking belief. *Point 6)* Even if one does claim there is no god, the burden of proof is on the POSITIVE claimant, NOT the NEGATIVE claimant. It is up to the theist to prove their god exists, not the negative claimant to prove their god does not exist. Please do not reply unless you actually acknowledge all of my arguments.

  • @Frogge.777
    @Frogge.7777 жыл бұрын

    Atheist Agnostic. Also I have the same map as you

  • @YourHomieJC

    @YourHomieJC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Harry yeah you even put it as your profile pic lol but why tho

  • @Frogge.777

    @Frogge.777

    7 жыл бұрын

    I meant the map on his wall, also I had nothing to put so why not, when I watch so much politics

  • @YourHomieJC

    @YourHomieJC

    7 жыл бұрын

    Harry i suppose

  • @steven6986
    @steven6986 Жыл бұрын

    Listening to that intro 6 years later was a trip into the past I wasn't expecting...

  • @jimhedges7616
    @jimhedges76167 жыл бұрын

    Hello mate, I've only recently found your videos and I've really enjoyed watching them. Any chance you could do a video debunking or talking about the 'electric universe theory'. It's really caught my eye as a new understandimg but I'm not sure as some vids contain obvious nutjobs thanks

  • @danielgrey3262
    @danielgrey32627 жыл бұрын

    would it theoretically be possible to be agnostic and religious?

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes. There are people who can't help that they *believe* in a god, yet acknowledge they do *not know* if the god really exists.

  • @noobslayeru

    @noobslayeru

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you can even be an atheist and religious

  • @hyruleanpaladin9212

    @hyruleanpaladin9212

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agnostic Theist.

  • @tacticalturtlez4906

    @tacticalturtlez4906

    6 жыл бұрын

    That was the section he labeled idiot

  • @PikUpYourPantsPatrol
    @PikUpYourPantsPatrol5 жыл бұрын

    Agnostic is defined as neither the belief or disbelief in a God. Atheism, the correct definition is the doctrine or belief that there is no God. If you are going to choose to define atheism as a lack of belief in God well then it's fair to define theism as "The lack of belief in a Godless universe" guess you're all theists, chao :)

  • @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    5 жыл бұрын

    You make no sense

  • @PikUpYourPantsPatrol

    @PikUpYourPantsPatrol

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@inactiveandsavedforarchive9312 No, you being too stupid to understand doesn't make it wrong. Here are how the terms are defined in philosophy plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/

  • @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PikUpYourPantsPatrol all i said was "you make no sense" so why'd you have to insult me? I didn't insult you. Your definitions don't make sense to me because of how you define things versus how they are defined by others and it's original definition. Are we going off of the definition we're supposed to interpret by you or the definition we're given by Google?

  • @PikUpYourPantsPatrol

    @PikUpYourPantsPatrol

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@inactiveandsavedforarchive9312 "Lack of belief" didn't exist until the 1970s, it's a rhetorical trick and most people don't define atheism as a lack of belief, only online atheists do, educate yourself

  • @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    @inactiveandsavedforarchive9312

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PikUpYourPantsPatrol part of me wants to challenge your stance, but since you acted like an ass the conversation isn't worth it. Advice is to not insult people just because they're confused by your point. Have a good day.

  • @Oscar-vv6dn
    @Oscar-vv6dn7 жыл бұрын

    The first video from you that I actually understood beforehand.

  • @PfEMP
    @PfEMP7 жыл бұрын

    Much needed clarification!

  • @technofreak39
    @technofreak397 жыл бұрын

    3:15 "Idiot" LMAO!! xD

  • @meschuggemil
    @meschuggemil7 жыл бұрын

    Pretty solid video but you made one small mistake at 2:00 - there is no need to believe in the existence of something you actually know of. If someone gave you a proof of god's existence, you wouldn't need to believe in his existence anymore - you would just know he exists.

  • @flyhigh1500

    @flyhigh1500

    7 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same, since you have the proof, it's no longer a belief but knowledge.

  • @LordOfLuck

    @LordOfLuck

    7 жыл бұрын

    Actually as i understand it, knowledge is a subset of belief. Id love to try and explain exactly how that works, but im not really eloquent enough to explain it in a in short easily explainable way. Instead i recommend trying to watch this video by the Atheist experience here /watch?v=_xYfdTNkmGE where it is explained in further detail.

  • @karlwilzen

    @karlwilzen

    7 жыл бұрын

    meschuggemil Yes, knowledge is indeed a specific type of belief. It is a belief where the confidence in a proposition approaches complete certainty, and where you have valid reasons for holding that belief that is consistent with a coherent world view.

  • @EpicWarrior131

    @EpicWarrior131

    7 жыл бұрын

    meschuggemil Knowing something still requires you to believe in it. I know therefor i believe. You see?

  • @christoph8616

    @christoph8616

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you are mixing up belief for faith.

  • @maxvogelaar1035
    @maxvogelaar10357 жыл бұрын

    Hey i was just wondering if you could show us some of the books that you have read (about science and religion and such) and recommend some that you have enjoyed reading?

  • @wulfenii64
    @wulfenii647 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info on your friend. I subscribed and gave you the credit.

  • @malirk
    @malirk7 жыл бұрын

    The Atheist Experience has recently taken a very strong stance against the words "dumb" and "idiot". They have stated that these words will most likely be viewed the same way as racial slurs years from now. What is your opinion on this issue? I ask because they are mass banning people who either don't obey their rules or question their rules. I was banned for questioning the rules on another forum than the forum the rules were for. I merely stated that they haven't followed their own rules and should remove their own videos if they're in violation. Thoughts?

  • @pauligrossinoz

    @pauligrossinoz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Brian Stevens - it all depends on context. In the context of a broadcast show like the Atheist Experience, using mild, polite language can be a conscious choice to assist in getting their message across. That makes sense to them and to me. But Hitler will forever be called dumb and an idiot, plus much worse. In the context of Hitler that makes sense. In fact, I sometimes refer to Hitler as an _evil cunt._ And anyone who thinks that is in any way akin to being racist is just dumb.

  • @malirk

    @malirk

    7 жыл бұрын

    The atheist experience is banning people on their facebook page if they say something like "That is a dumb idea". If you say that... you're banned... because saying "dumb" is ableist.

  • @xipheonj

    @xipheonj

    7 жыл бұрын

    They've been slipping more and more into the harmful traps of social justice over the years, it's sad really.

  • @Omega0850

    @Omega0850

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thoughts: April 1. PS: Bad one!

  • @malirk

    @malirk

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oh haha.... it's not April Fools though... Go to FreeThought Blogs and view their page it has been up for quite awhile.

  • @grayskull1521
    @grayskull15217 жыл бұрын

    You make some valid points but I don't think you're spot on with your assessment of anti-theism. I consider myself an anti-theist because I actively don't wish for it to be true. Example: Some atheists claim that they wish it to be true that there is a god, whereas I hope it's not true so I consider myself consider an anti-theist.

  • @grayskull1521

    @grayskull1521

    7 жыл бұрын

    I found this description on ThoughtCo and it describes what I mean pretty well. "Anti-theism requires more than either merely disbelieving in gods or even denying the existence of gods. Anti-theism requires a couple of specific and additional beliefs: first, that theism is harmful to the believer, harmful to society, harmful to politics, harmful, to culture, etc.; second, that theism can and should be countered in order to reduce the harm it causes. If a person believes these things, then they will likely be an anti-theist who works against theism by arguing that it be abandoned, promoting alternatives, or perhaps even supporting measures to suppress it."

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree that he misuses the term anti-theist. Given the definitions offered by a quick google, as well as the one you provide here, one could totally *believe* a particular god exists, yet be *completely opposed* to that god and its religion. That means that one could be an anti-theist theist. They would also be gnostic or agnostic on top of that, depending on if they think they *know* said god is real.

  • @grayskull1521

    @grayskull1521

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bastian Yeah, my whole thing is that I don't know but I assume a god doesn't exist. But further than that, I don't *want* it to exist. To me, that makes me anti-theist.

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed83112 жыл бұрын

    Yep, found that very enlightening! Had always understood agnostic as not knowing, but hadn't necessarily appreciated not only did that overlap with atheist, but that the ideal (correct?) word to describe what I had traditionally considered atheism, should in fact be antitheism. It's true, you do learn something every day!

  • @AT-gz4ej
    @AT-gz4ej7 жыл бұрын

    hey love your videos!!!

  • @lachlanmacarthur8992
    @lachlanmacarthur89927 жыл бұрын

    I think Aron Ra is an anti-theist.

  • @Vvalox

    @Vvalox

    7 жыл бұрын

    Only towards Gods that are attached to (using his terminology) a 'creation myth' story.

  • @skelskeleton

    @skelskeleton

    7 жыл бұрын

    He literally calls himself an anti theist.

  • @Vvalox

    @Vvalox

    7 жыл бұрын

    Towards Christianity perhaps, but I think the context he's using is that he dislikes the idea of a God and while he admits he doesn't know if a God exists, he argues that we should be glad if there is not one.

  • @21MAKE12

    @21MAKE12

    7 жыл бұрын

    Farrow so other "higher than man" beings would be possible?

  • @Vvalox

    @Vvalox

    7 жыл бұрын

    I did not say anything of the sort Maximilian Kempe.

  • @utahjag
    @utahjag7 жыл бұрын

    Atheism is not the belief there isn't a god, it is the lack of belief in a god. Atheism is not a belief, but the opposite, the lack of it.

  • @jamo6079

    @jamo6079

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dave Houser, but it concerns the question of belief, like agnosticism, the lack of knowledge, concerns knowledge.

  • @vallthose

    @vallthose

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not according to the Cambridge or Collins Dictionaries! You atheists really need to start doing your home work!

  • @keriezy
    @keriezy7 жыл бұрын

    That graph was on point!

  • @semiawesomatic6064
    @semiawesomatic60647 жыл бұрын

    you and aron ra are probably two of my favorite youtubers.

  • @von1145
    @von11457 жыл бұрын

    Neil deGrasse Tyson has this weird thing where he won't say he's an atheist.

  • @andibrema

    @andibrema

    5 жыл бұрын

    But he is lol

  • @RoadRunner217

    @RoadRunner217

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he's not doing a good job in that department. He basically concedes to the theists that try to put dirt on the atheistic label, by labeling them "angry" and "hateful" all the time, and although Mr. Tyson is, according to his words teaching and his position on religion and god, atheistic, he says he is agnostic, because people of belief will think that's only half bad and therefore not hate him as much. I wish he was more honest in that regard, because he knows what he believes in and he shouldn't be ashamed of that or try to appeal to the wrong people.

  • @americanliberal09

    @americanliberal09

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because he isn't.

  • @andibrema

    @andibrema

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@americanliberal09 He doesn't believe in god or gods. And anyone who fits that definition is an atheist.

  • @americanliberal09

    @americanliberal09

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andibrema He actually said that he doesn't have an opinion on the existence of god. He has stated many times that he was an agnostic, not atheist.

  • @AleksandarIvanov69
    @AleksandarIvanov697 жыл бұрын

    When someone says to you "Im an agnostic" then ask them "Do you believe in God" they will 100% say "No" tell them "You are an atheist" and walk away.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    Except that I've tried this and they almost always answer: "I don't know."

  • @michaeldromes3948

    @michaeldromes3948

    7 жыл бұрын

    if they say "I don't know" they're most likely atheist anyway, these "I'm not sure, don't know" only show how they lack the belief.

  • @LastBastian

    @LastBastian

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Michael, I agree. But good luck getting an "I'm only agnostic" person to understand or admit that.

  • @drewz116

    @drewz116

    7 жыл бұрын

    Then just guide them through to the logical conclusion of them claiming they don't know. If they don't know something exist or not then that's the same as them not believing. not knowing=no belief. If some one said they don't know whether or not Alaska exist, then they lack a belief that Alaska exist. And if they still to don't get it, then you may still want to walk away.

  • @Omega0850

    @Omega0850

    7 жыл бұрын

    So they are either answering the question, telling you that they don´t know what´s going on in their own head, (in which case they are just confused) or they just didn´t answer your question.

  • @lukelittlejohn_
    @lukelittlejohn_7 жыл бұрын

    Really well communicated. Only thing I would pick you up on is that an anti-theist can also be a term for a person who opposes organized religion, other than that, awesome video as usual :)

  • @InaneDragon
    @InaneDragon7 жыл бұрын

    But, when corrected for cost, does the MacBook Pro still outperform the Dell XPS? ... I'll be honest, I have no idea, because I stopped looking at apple products years ago. After my shite experience with a MacBook Pro & an iMac.

  • @CosmicSkeptic

    @CosmicSkeptic

    7 жыл бұрын

    Spec for spec, price for price, the Dell outshines the Mac by a long chalk. But OSX and Final Cut Pro keep me on the Apple side!

  • @InaneDragon

    @InaneDragon

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm... I'm an adobe fan boy at this point. Premiere, Audition, Photoshop, all the way. It's not very skeptical of me, but the products treat me well, even if they don't pay me for recommending them.

  • @reddundee4844
    @reddundee48447 жыл бұрын

    Calling yourself "agnostic" is just a way to be non-confrontational. It's glorified fence-sitting.

  • @nootdreamnoot1684

    @nootdreamnoot1684

    5 жыл бұрын

    No its accepting that we don't know for sure.

  • @marley7659

    @marley7659

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah have no way of knowing. I certainly don't want to be smote for believing in a false god either. I welcome some sort of tangible connection with a creator. None of us have had such an experience in current times to prove or disprove a god or gods existence. That should be fine. We don't know for sure.

  • @spacedoohicky
    @spacedoohicky7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the notice about Rationality Rules. I think I was subbed to him. Back to resub. I'm agnostic atheist by the way. Very very light on the agnostic.

  • @TinkerGrey
    @TinkerGrey7 жыл бұрын

    To further cloud the issues, there is also the concept of colloquial agnosticism vs. philosophical agnosticism. The former is a question of whether one has enough information to draw a conclusion or the degree to which one has certainty about some conclusion. The latter is the question as to whether it is even possible to know something on a a given topic In the arena of religion, we might refer to Arthur C. Clarke's quote: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Would could a god do to distinguish itself from a "sufficiently advanced" alien? As such, could one *ever* conclude that a being is a god -- as opposed to it being expedient to treat such a being as a god.

  • @andrewcenarrusa2826
    @andrewcenarrusa28263 жыл бұрын

    To believe something, is it not prerequisite that you don’t know for sure? If you know, how can you also believe? Am I misunderstanding the terms “know” and “believe”.

  • @themelancholia
    @themelancholia5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for clearing this stuff up for people that have been confused by others into misunderstanding these terms.

  • @-HOC-

    @-HOC-

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melancholia CS's definition of an anti theist as has been previously pointed out is slightly misrepresenting of an anti theist, an anti theist simply means opposed to or against, sure some anti theists will take the position of absolutely no god but id say its not a necessity & id say even a christian can have anti theist leanings towards other religions such as Islam etc or vice versa. ... Anytime anyone has an active disbelief in a god or a gods then they are an atheist. the level of certainty has little bearing on what an anti theist is in my opinion. ... its easy enough, the A in agnostic & atheism is a Greek prefix which simply means without or not & Anti means opposed to or against. ...

  • @themelancholia

    @themelancholia

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@-HOC- I knew that anti means against. You said that people who believe there is at least one god are atheists. I think that was a typo.

  • @-HOC-

    @-HOC-

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melancholia Yep sorry it was a typo, thanks for pointing it out.

  • @themelancholia

    @themelancholia

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@-HOC- What is the best method of suicide?

  • @-HOC-

    @-HOC-

    5 жыл бұрын

    Melancholia Dunno, i've never looked into it. ...

  • @larissamiller6801
    @larissamiller68017 жыл бұрын

    besides getting lost in you're beautifully formed sentences, everything you said made complete sense. you're a wonderful soeaker

  • @shawndory5193
    @shawndory51937 жыл бұрын

    I don't care how I am labeled but your discussion does make me think. That's why I enjoy your channel.

  • @janisawsome
    @janisawsome7 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I was wondering about your thoughts on veganism and moral choices. I thought that since you do great videos about logical ways to refute religious arguments, you could share your opinion about the morality behind the diets that people adopt today. Thanks.

  • @mrcall02
    @mrcall02Ай бұрын

    I am interested if you still hold to these definitions. I'd like you to make an updated version of this topic. It has been 7 years.

  • @toler1465
    @toler14656 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Rationality Rules is great, and they are up to 23k now!

  • @k.tavaq136
    @k.tavaq1367 жыл бұрын

    You are great brother... 👍

  • @elliottbeauchamp6765
    @elliottbeauchamp67656 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video on why you don't believe in free will? Or maybe you've already made one that I haven't been able to find. Either way I'm quite interested in your take on that. Love your content by the way. Very respectful and articulate. Good work

  • @DanielLee1
    @DanielLee13 жыл бұрын

    Quick point on this - and this may well go unanswered since it’s such an old video - sometimes, I might go between saying I don’t believe there is a god and saying that I actually believe there is no god. Either way, I don’t KNOW there is no god. Now, that obviously makes me agnostic on the position of the existence of a god, but I’m assuming that when I say “I believe there is no god”, I wouldn’t be an atheist either, because I’m not saying that DON’T believe, I’m saying I actually DO believe there ARE NO gods. Is it still atheism, because I reject the claim ‘there is a god’ or is it right to say I would be an agnostic antitheist? Because in your diagram, you pointed to agnostic antitheist was someone who “doesn’t know there is no god and for that reason, I don’t believe there is a god” but I didn’t hear you say anything regarding the belief that there is no god.

  • @corvax8644
    @corvax86447 жыл бұрын

    That's really odd when you type rationally rules' channel name into the search bar it doesn't show up but one of his videos do

  • @gonkuku
    @gonkuku7 жыл бұрын

    Glad I found your channel.

  • @keesdenheijer7283
    @keesdenheijer72837 жыл бұрын

    I'm totally confused now Alex. Should I go out now and buy a Macbook Pro?

  • @G33K01345

    @G33K01345

    7 жыл бұрын

    Do you like burning money, then sure, otherwise buy a more functional computer for much less.

  • @4g123ipodtouch1
    @4g123ipodtouch17 жыл бұрын

    Great Video :)

  • @GavinAlexander.
    @GavinAlexander.7 жыл бұрын

    What you did for Rationality Rules, is a class act. As of now, his sub number has doubled since you uploaded this video.

  • @ananimity7332
    @ananimity73327 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video :)

  • @RecklawTheAmazing
    @RecklawTheAmazing7 жыл бұрын

    Idk if this question is too personal, but where are you thinking about going to college? I'm an American and about your age (I'm 16), and I've been thinking a good amount about this lately. I'm fairly intelligent, and I got good scores on my standardized tests. Right now, I'd love to go to Edinburgh. I'd really like to experience the UK, especially Scotland, so why not do it while receiving a great education.