Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 00:28 - Red Herring Definition and History 02:14 - Technique 1: The Whodunit 03:38 - Technique 2: Unreliable narrator 06:20 - Technique 3: Emotional Effect 08:23 - Technique 4: Historical Subversion 09:26 - Technique 5: Casting and Marketing 10:56 - Takeaways and Wrap Up

@Saikumar-ov5gy

2 жыл бұрын

Wow , thanks for taking my advice to give spoiler alert for movies which you are going to explain in a video. It's a good habbit to implementing the subscribers advice. All the best.

@MelbourneArchviz

2 жыл бұрын

you should have a list at the beginning of the movie of where you spoil movies. I wanted to watch the orient express.

@male6561

2 жыл бұрын

Any more examples of technique 3? :)

@poorvavashistha8627

Жыл бұрын

😂

@OlafReuh

Жыл бұрын

How about the red herring in this video, where you announce spoilers for some movies and in fact these movies are not the ones that are spoiled...

The casting and marketing red herring is what The Suicide Squad did.

@austinhamedih1025

2 жыл бұрын

Got em

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@MMerajHossain

2 жыл бұрын

ya immediatly what came to my mind :P

@ALFirebird

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@superpowerpictures

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed!!

I would just like to mention the double red herring in hot fuzz. The store manager was immediately set up as evil and the movie was dropping the biggest hints, like ominous smiling, creepiness etc that he is the bad guy, so much so that it made me (and probably everyone else) think that he is obviously just a red herring. Turns out he is actually evil and he tricked us all. I tried to outsmart the movie but it outsmarted my outsmartedness

@joshcrackedboooi2392

Жыл бұрын

a similar thing is constantly done in the chainsaw man comic. it fucking shows red flags and makes you forget those things happening and then they come back but worse and then everyone is surprised.

@johnjim6793

Жыл бұрын

This is true. It only works, however, because the store manager is indeed guilty as we were initially lead to believe, but then also in a very different way than we thought.

@kaltziferYT

Жыл бұрын

Hot Fuzz is great (trilogy fan's noise intensifies) !

@lolikumadesbear1999

Жыл бұрын

A similar plot was in "The 'Burbs" with Tom Hanks. We are to believe the neighbors are scary. But then it turns out that all the suspicious behavior and accussations were false...until then in yet another twist we find out they were not false, the neighbors are indeed creepy killer and the characters suspicion was right all along

@CptCh4os

Жыл бұрын

@@johnjim6793 Yeah that. I thought it was so obvious that it was him there was no way it actually was him cause nobody would write that obvious a murderer and portray it as a mystery. I aslo thought it is impossible that it is not him with ALL the hints we've been given. And in the perfect reveal it both was and wasn't him in a way I never would have expected. Brilliant red herring

Fun fact: We weren't the only ones to be fooled by The Usual Suspects red herring. The director told each one of the cast in the lineup that they were Keyser Soze, and they didn't find out until he premiere that they weren't.

@nintendude794

Жыл бұрын

I hope this is true

@mitchellwooldridge5118

Жыл бұрын

But they all die... except for Keyser Soze. How does that work?

@kamarulariffin3093

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchellwooldridge5118 maybe they thought that they're going to be dead because they're Keyser soze

@chriswoolum8955

Жыл бұрын

fun fact: they're never fun

@crackthecan3970

Жыл бұрын

Its so obviously tbh

Promising Young Woman pulled off a flawless casting red herring by casting likable comedians like Bo Burnham and Max Greenfield as all the "nice guy" men. And the only good man was Alfred Molina, who we all know as a villain.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, also that we thought that everybody was going to get away with murder

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Great call!

@sofiasurreal.

2 жыл бұрын

Really demonstrated how important casting is.

@Nexils

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the movie I thought about when I saw that part of the video.

@tinkergnomad

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say this. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

I sometimes feel like the film industry knows really good about how a good film is done, but they decide not to.

@samaraisnt

Жыл бұрын

Artists care about good films. The film industry does not care AT ALL about making good films. They're an "industry" it's in the name, they only care about making $$$. That's why casting and misdirection is done...bad action films abound. They know people will pay for crap if it's got a hero in it.

My favorite red herring example was in a series of unfortunate events, in which there was an auction which had an item that the protagonists had hoped could lead them to their kidnapped friends, but in fact those friends were incased in another object in the auction which was a large statue of a literal red herring

The production quality of these videos is excellent, and I have learned so much about the craft of film from the very good explanations within, and in addition whoever runs the KZread account is very active in replying to comments, even on older videos! Truly one of the best marketing choices for any product I've ever seen, absolutely top marks.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Got to stay in touch with our viewers ;)

@etadventure1601

2 жыл бұрын

I want to like your comment, but it's at 69. I hope this is enough 👍

@phakes6195

Жыл бұрын

@@etadventure1601looks like the number has been eclipsed and a like is in order.

@etadventure1601

Жыл бұрын

@@phakes6195 lol thanks for making me aware

@phakes6195

Жыл бұрын

@@etadventure1601 Yw 😊

Omgosh I never realised 22 Jump Street was spoofing the concept and making it super obvious. I feel like a big ol' idiot!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

haha no worries

"Casting misdirection," worked well in Promising Young Woman also. I was very surprised by elements of the film, and the deliberate casting choices drove the point home more than expected.

I thought this was a video explaining what a red herring was... Then it turned out to be an ad for Studio Binder's software. Well played. Well played. I'm sold.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

👀

@TheJacklikesvideos

2 жыл бұрын

Teaching by example. Nice meta interpretation 👽

You're the real MVP for the exhaustive spoiler alert right at the beginning. I'm gonna revisit my watchlist, get back to this video in a few weeks, and subscribe in the meantime

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Glad it was useful to you :)

@nintendude794

Жыл бұрын

Ever come back?

@Crudecoronet

Жыл бұрын

@@nintendude794 He never did :(

I love that the 22 Jumpstreet one is a double pun "the Plainview Red Herrings" 🤣

9:26: Oh, man, those first notes of Red Right Hands gave me chills.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Us too :)

I appreciated when this concept was applied in "The Suicide Squad" where we were lead to believe Michael Rooker and Pete Davidson were crucial characters initially

@goodsaint_001

2 жыл бұрын

It is mostly well known that he could not survive since we couldn't see him anywhere else in the trailer.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

The red herring was that everyone thought it was going to suck like the first one

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

That counts!

@zil1832

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 well dc trying the same movie for the second time. They couldnt afford it to be a sucker.

@zora4187

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 was the second one good?

The film poster completely different from the film's theme is also a red herring.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's part of the marketing!

@bennyton2560

2 жыл бұрын

Deadpool recall immediately

@coolloner85

Жыл бұрын

Malignant hahah

"Four little Soldier boys going out to sea; A red herring swallowed one and then there were three." It was the first "red herring" in my life.

Leonardo dicaprios role in scorseses departed(Spoiler) is also one of my favorites. I can exactly remember how utterly shocked I was when he, after being one of the main protagonists for the majority of the movie, stepped out of that elevator and just gets shot in the head in the most unceremonious way possible at the moment where everyone expected him to come out as the hero of the story the most. I still remember how I just couldn't believe it while watching departed for the first time, I actually expected him to survive a headshot, that's how much I couldn't believe that they just killed him like that.

@tothebatman

Жыл бұрын

I watched this movie with my mom and when we finished watching it we couldn’t stop talking about it for like a week

@MrFlyingfoxzero

Жыл бұрын

Check out Infernal Affairs. The Departed is a remake of it.

@SuperCosty2010

Жыл бұрын

It's a remake of an asian movie. With Tony Leung in DiCaprio role. It's like expect Sean Bean to survive 😂

The concept of “the mystery box”, as used by J.J. Abrams in his films, is a big example of the “Casting and Marketing” Red Herring. The marketing focuses so much about this and that big mystery that, by sheer memetic mutation, the snowball grows and grows and everybody thinks every single little oddity is a huge clue. This kind of red herring also has a huge, and that is HUGE, flaw (a flaw that is becoming more problematic nowadays with how quickly it can spread, thanks to the Internet) and that is if people loathe the payoff of the red herring, they will raise HELL over it, and that same memetic quality will become the doom of the filmmaker - to put it succinctly, “once bitten, twice shy.” Doubly so if you try to make it your “signature style”, like Abrams has. It is not so much a flaw of the film, but really, a flaw of marketing and humans in general.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Goes back to how the technique is used for it to be effective

@ethanmauser4861

2 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of how he cast Mark Hamill in TFW and did nothing with him.

@fujoshirants9609

Жыл бұрын

That is a lesson Shyamalan should have learned. Don't over do the twist. And don't insult your audience's intelligence. I figured out the village before the ending.

@chrisriley625

Жыл бұрын

JJ wanted to cast and market lost around micheal Keaton and kill him of T the end of the pilot but the studio didn’t want to cast a high profile actor that wouldn’t be the actual star

02:12 - Spoiler-Alert movie list. Check these before anything else.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Yup!

Wander over Yonder has an episode with a good red herring where Wander follows a supposed hero trying to save a princess, but it turns out the hero is just a simp who gets rejected and the princess doesn’t even need saving

@AB-sw4kb

Жыл бұрын

literally me

@cardboardtoaster2169

Жыл бұрын

Similar story in smiling friends actually with a dwarf and a princess

What an excellent video! I'll be coming back to this often.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

It'll be here!

500 Days of Summer almost has an anti- red herring, announcing exactly what the film really is. By the time you get to the climax of the movie, you are abruptly reminded by the movie that it told you what it was. They do such a good job of hooking you in the middle that youstill don't see it coming.

Memento had the single greatest red herring in cinematic history. Trinity from the Matrix was the villain in Memento, and Cypher from the Matrix turned out actually be a good guy. It was such brilliant casting because you came in watching Memento, you immediately had the bias of their intentions.

@kennetheaton1728

Жыл бұрын

Arguably all three main characters are villains and use Leonard's memory issues to implement their plans. Teddy leads Leonard to at least two murders. Natalie does something similar, though only after Leonard kills her boyfriend. Leonard for his part does it in order to be able to ignore his culpability in various crimes, thus allowing the cycle to continue. . . . Now, where was I?

@SuperCosty2010

Жыл бұрын

1. maybe it's kind of casting red herring, but raither unintentionally, 2. Natalie is no villain, 3. Teddy is pretty fuckin' far from innocent Sometimes there are so many red herrings or the story is so messed up (as in aforementioned Memento) that the thing just doesn't work as classical red herring. In Memento the watcher is some kind of misled in almost every small episode

@ExMachina70

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperCosty2010 Hey MAN! What did Teddy ever do to you!!!!

6:20 Yes! Someone agrees that this was the intention! So many people have given me crap for saying that it was purposefully ambiguous whether that was Miller or Ryan in the cemetery in the opening scene.

@SuperCosty2010

Жыл бұрын

The close up of the old man's face and the immediate cut to Miller's face in the beginning leave no place for a doubt. I've forgotten if Ryan was on Omaha beach at all, or if it's told about in the movie. Furthermore, if he wasn't, what we have here is some foul play on Spielberg's side.

I think the Hereditary trailer was also a pretty good red herring. We are led to believe that the daughter will be the main antagonist, so what happens half way through is all the more shocking.

Spoiler for Fight Club: Fight Club literally has an unreliable narrator named "Narrator".

@alexsummers9140

2 жыл бұрын

The BEST MOVIE that has a wonderful 'red herring'; thanks for mentioning it.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct 💯

@sasshole8121

2 жыл бұрын

The biggest red herring of Fight Club is that Tyler Durden always existed and the narrator slowly begins to invade his life. The movie misleads us into believing the opposite is happening.

@vonakenyon7981

Жыл бұрын

Great example. Herrings don't get much redder.

I am loving this channel!!! It's been a joy over the past week watching more videos. In this one, I especially love that you included *The Others* which is a movie I adored and yet never hear much commentary on. Thank you for that!!!

Very educative and applicable to many creative fields. Good job 👍🏾

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

🙏❤

I’m surprised no one mentioned the red herring in Uncut Gems. Like that one got me good

@izzy4el

2 жыл бұрын

As silly as a movie as it was, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels got me the same way.

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

ah yeah at the end, yeah, that one was good

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great example too!

@guidoguido2245

2 жыл бұрын

What was it?

@LuisSierra42

2 жыл бұрын

@@guidoguido2245 he won the bet and the end but got shot nonetheless

Love this episode. You guys are an EPIC help in my culinary filmmaking journey. Thanks a Million. Great Episode! Aloha🤙🏾

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Happy filming!

Not a single Clue reference? Not one? I'm dying here 😂

@nopewmopan

2 жыл бұрын

"Please, there are ladies present."

you guys are amazing... I always prefer about your chanel whenever I talk about movies with others. keep rocking!!!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

We appreciate the promotion!

The film Bodies Bodies Bodies does this as well (spoilers!). It turns out the initial “murder” - which led to all the other murders and the idea that there was a murder - was an accident. The guy killed himself accidentally with a machete while trying to open a bottle. Everyone assumed it was a murder, and then again because of miscommunication/ lack of communication, another person is assumed to be the murderer and is also killed. It’s a really interesting film!

This an extremely well made and informative video. They should use ones like this in schools instead of a 360p video where the narrator talks faster than you can write down a word.

Thank you Studio Binder for another amazing insightful video. Imma tell my kids this is the best film school

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

You're all accepted!

I'm a recent sub because, well, I've only just discovered you in the last few weeks and I was impressed from the start. Excellent explanations! I've learned more about certain features of writing as well as filming, in some cases better than I did during the creative writing courses for my degree! Though I have an alternative origin to the red herring meaning (I know it's not your explanation). It was actually use by hunt saboteurs back in the early 1800s. Used as a way to take the hounds away from the scent of the fox because it smelled stronger - and in my experience, most dogs _love_ fish! The biggest surprise when I learned it was that hunt sabotage started as early as it did. I can't say that this story _is_ the real one, but it comes from a book about such sayings which has "Red Herrings" in the title!

Besides character's beliefs&needs,his wants and philosophical conflicts with other characters in the story structure....Red herring is something which can not only change audience's expectations but can also surprise them at every moment of the film

I have a question , the people who go to college and became filmmakers learn this there? i'm getting unvaluable information trough KZread? i mean my mind is about to explode i'm learning so much with this channel

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

We've heard of teachers using our videos in their classes, make of that what you will 🤷‍♀️

Please keep making more videos, as someone who's interested in filmmaking I'm learning so much

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

More videos is the goal!

I need to start taking notes and quizzing myself on this stuff, this is amazing.

"Predator" changed its entire genre about a third of the way through the film. From traditional action to sci-fi thriller/revenge movie. Totally unexpected, totally awesome.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Genre shifts are awesome when done correctly 👌

@koffing2073

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudioBinder like ''from dusk till dawn''

@storiesreadaloud5635

Жыл бұрын

It would have if not for the opening shot. We see the Predator's ship coming into Earth. Which is a nice hook, so we're waiting for its appearance throughout the opening mission. Without that, the film would have had a different effect, perhaps better? I wonder if they tested audiences with and without that shot

I love your work. Gives meaning to my life.

Just found this channel I'm totally addicted right off the bat

Hmmm. This helped me integrate a twist in my screenplay better. I love this channel man

Your videos are excellent. KNIVES OUT really did just strike me a writing exercise more than a movie.

I am so glad yt recommended me this

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

We are too ❤

Great episode as usual What a fantastic content ❤️

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to entertain!

😍 Yes.. Awaited one !

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

We are back!

Very good content. Thank u studio binder.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Only the best content for you guys

This is so great i feel relieved, thank you so much.

One of the best channels on KZread, thank you

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Excellent content as always!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

🙏👍

Yet another brilliant video Thank you and well done

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

The expectation of a red herring being the red herring is very Edgar Wright. Like, is it just me or is murder on the orient express awfully similar to hot fuzz in terms of everyone being complicit? I can't tell if I'm drawing false platitudes someone help 😂.

@hayleybleho

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah true, it's basically the same thing! There's probably other films where everyone is complicit too but I can't think of any right now haha

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Fair comparison

@Anindyatejo

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps Edgar Wright was a big fan of the novel "Murder on the Orient Express" by Dame Agatha Christie that was released almost a century ago, and wanted to apply those plots to his movie Hot Fuzz. I'm not complaining. I am a fan of Agatha Christie and Hot Fuzz....

@vonakenyon7981

Жыл бұрын

Nothing against Hot Fuzz as I loved it but I really don't think it has anything to do with the director. Agatha Christie is the queen of red herrings. Her books are filled with them. If you haven't seen the original 70's movie of Orient Express it is so much better.

Awesome as always!!!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Studiobinder back at it again with quality content👌🏽 Edit: I love the spoiler alert before you went into the analysis👌🏽

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@men_del12

2 жыл бұрын

Well most people hates spoilers so it's understandable. Me on the other hand likes alot of spoils as a way to love the full film more.

@playtunes2533

2 жыл бұрын

if only there was an alert for the spoilers in the comment section

I Love this channel. Quality content always.

@RohitPatil-fv4rb

2 жыл бұрын

I've got a question though. Could the character of wife in SHUTTER ISLAND be considered a red herring? If not, which is the red herring in that movie, if there is?

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Brilliant video. As always! Thank you for your work and greetings from Azerbaijan

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings from California!

Amazing video!! I never knew the history of the term

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

We're here to educate and entertain :)

These videos are super fun and informative. It would be cool if there was a quick film exercise to do after each video to help learn and use the skill. But either way these videos are amazing!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! We've done that before for several videos; always figuring out what's the best move for each piece of content

Oh I remember The Usual Suspects, I wasn’t prepared for that ending. Really enjoyed that movie

I always enjoy these immensely! The term 'red herring; is older than stated, though, harking back to that indefatigable neologism'er Thomas Nashe at the time of Shakespeare.

Amazing as always 👍

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Love these kinds of videos.

Y'all really all have the best info

Never heard of this trick before. Thanks man

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Great technique to play with :)

@vonakenyon7981

Жыл бұрын

The list of films in this video would be a good place to start if you want to learn more about red herrings and movies as well.

Greatest red herring in the entire video: *Playing Red Right Hand in the background without showing Peaky Blinders.*

Thanks uploader it's self explanatory

Ive never seen saving private ryan before but that scene gave me shivers

7:46 DAMN, i have never watched this movie, but that moment hit HARD.

My favourite was the one form Joker. When watching the movie their relationship was so radically different from the tone of the movie that it didn't feel real but when it was revealed it still hit hard. Perfect.

when "others" scene came.. goosebumps all over my body

Well, the morons Dan and Dave made a red herring out of the entire White Walkers in GoT. Totally betraying the theme of the story. GRRM would have been punching the air.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@misterbobby8913

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure you phrased that correctly, George is still alive.

@TheEtherny

2 жыл бұрын

I know DnD were responsible, but if GRRM had cared so much he would've continued his freaking books, it's been years after the shows end and the next book is still not here. The show should've been done only after Martin finished cause so much fame has distracted him and this is no one's fault, it's just a bunch of people making big mistakes

@2adamast

2 жыл бұрын

GRRM introducing characters and then killing them with fervor: starts in chapter one, then two, didn't look past that.

@misterbobby8913

2 жыл бұрын

@@2adamast I respect that. I also wouldn't like that. Never got into it. I don't like it when they prioritize subverting the narrative over all.

My favorite book series, The Grimnoir Chronicles, has something that all the characters believed. It's not shown to be false until late in the third book of the trilogy. The characters believed it and so did I.

Great video!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

🙏

i am a big fan of this channel thank you so mush for this concept

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Die Hard Trilogy had one of the best red herring set ups in film history.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Honestly the best red herring is what Attack on Titan does: Place additonal information that is not untrue, and is captivating on its own, to distract from the fact that there is more crucial information, often in the same frame. It makes the story deep and complex while still mysterious, without lying to the audience - a keen eyed viewer can pick up on everything.

Great channel!

Thanks. Learned alot

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

That's the goal!

@BookofShafiq

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudioBinder keep up the good work...

The shower scene in Psycho blew my mind the first time I watched it! I was just a teenager at the time and I was freaking out like “YOU CANT JUST KILL OFF THE MAIN CHARACTER HALFWAY THROUGH THE MOVIE??!!?!?”

1:11 Okay, I will say, that was good. It's basically studiobinder saying what it is they are going to explain and audience is saying they don't know and it arouses their curiosity to know what they are explaining. Great editing!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

It's all in the details 👌💖

@avanishdutta2658

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudioBinder Devil's always in the details too, but the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was making the world believe that his entire existence was an illusion.

Thanks for sharing with us ❤️❤️❤️

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@mahesh3059

2 жыл бұрын

@@StudioBinder lots of love❤️❤️❤️

Thanks you, I had a lot of valuable thoughts on magic tricks thanks to this video! ❤

I love the way StudioBinder states a film term

Thank you for this.

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Quality Content..Thanks

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Interesting stuff!

Incredible & Thanks :)

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

This know the third definition of red herring that I've heard. This one seems most plausible, but the other ones are good too, and now I feel like research all the different variants.

This is very timely for me

Good topic to teach and discuss on

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

It is a great technique to learn 👍

Great anslysis!

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps!

Do you guys have a video on what makes a great camp movie? It seems to me a lot of critics don’t grasp campiness and can’t seem to identify it. Also some movies go for camp and isn’t over the top enough so they tend to miss the mark. IMO

Superb video

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

My 2 favorites are The Usual Suspects and more recently Predestination.

10:30 That was brilliant, a great improvement from the book

Here we go 🔥 Road to 1 million

@StudioBinder

2 жыл бұрын

On our way!

Wait, was that red herring origin story...a red herring?? 😆 DELIGHTFUL! You have a new subscription from me. 👌🏾