What is a Dyson Sphere and should we build one?

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Ever wondered about the concept of megastructures? Specifically a Dyson Sphere? In this video we explore the concept, as well as touching on Dyson Swarms. Part of the artwork for this video is taken from Stellaris the grand strategy game by Paradox Interactive.
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  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan4 ай бұрын

    I expect the Blorg to build one to get charge powerful enough A.I. to answer the question: Where in the Universe can we find people that adore us?

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Oh that just made me sad.... Imagining the Matrioshka Brain refusing them entry.

  • @trolly4233

    @trolly4233

    4 ай бұрын

    the matrioshka brain would just take 2 million years to calculate the answer, and the answer would be "42" then would promptly explode

  • @xzardas541

    @xzardas541

    4 ай бұрын

    London, they would be indistinguishable from the locals.

  • @noblegame4189
    @noblegame41894 ай бұрын

    A Dyson swarm is originally what Freeman Dyson was referring to. The encased shell concept came from science fiction.

  • @kinexxona06
    @kinexxona064 ай бұрын

    Technically star’s energy is also finite until they don’t run out of hydrogen and the core reaches a state where iron starts to appear

  • @ecogreen123

    @ecogreen123

    4 ай бұрын

    it might be finite but it's functionally infinite, unless you would consider roughly 4 billion more years of roughly 1000x the power output of our entire civilization for a century to be small enough/short lived to call "finite" you may be thinking on bigger/longer scales then I'm thinking, by the time the suns power runs out we will theoretically come up with something better or longer lived.

  • @FoxBullet

    @FoxBullet

    4 ай бұрын

    Also, a star's lifespan could theoretically be extended artificially via lifting stellar material. And since the swarm is already there, why not make them multifunctional, or add a dozen thousand dedicated extraction platforms powered by the swarm?

  • @l-shadow1775
    @l-shadow17754 ай бұрын

    Geth: we shall build dyson sphere and have peace Quarian: shoot it down

  • @vi6ddarkking
    @vi6ddarkking4 ай бұрын

    Say now that you've opened this can of worms how about you do more of this for the other megastructures, including the ones from Gigastructural Engineering like the Starlifter.

  • @Hypercube2017

    @Hypercube2017

    4 ай бұрын

    I want a Quasi-Stellar Obliterator video... as well as a Faust video - those guys always keep nuking themselves by mid-game (though they do have the potential to _not_ die in psionic fire and become one of four interstellar empires with - I think - special tech).

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    I'll see what I can do :)

  • @NetMoverSitan
    @NetMoverSitanКүн бұрын

    Ah yes, there was one in Star Trek: The Next Generation, specifically in the episode "Relics".

  • @ScamallDorcha
    @ScamallDorcha4 ай бұрын

    To reach the moon, aim for the stars. I say that we make this the goal for humanity, to harvest the power of Sol and become a unified space-faring civilization.

  • @theflame5919

    @theflame5919

    4 ай бұрын

    No way. I don't want a unified civilization. Very few humans want or ever will want that. Having multiple civilizations is how we do it. Also, that's a terrible goal for humanity. The goal should be, to gradually improve our lives and infrastructure, not some lofty idea, what may or may not be even feasible.

  • @ScamallDorcha

    @ScamallDorcha

    4 ай бұрын

    @@theflame5919 If we are unified, it becomes easier to gradually improve our lives. These are good medium-term goals. The long-term goal would be to build the Dyson swarm to achieve near unlimited energy. If we are divided, a faction would sabotage the project so others can't use it. Your opinion is an emotional reaction to new things, quite childish and pathetic really.

  • @theflame5919

    @theflame5919

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ScamallDorcha no, it's realistic. U are the idealistic naive one. One world government, is just an open invitation to tyranny.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ScamallDorcha it also becomes easier to gradually decrease our lives, we see this time and time again when laws a slowly passed and before you notice theres no way to turn back, prime example is 1930s Germany. theres no perfect system the best solution is to have a few nations running in tandem with different political systems and allow the population to choose.

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    I likely speak for all Stellaris players here: Our world Leaders need to get a friggen Clue.... It is almost like people who live to nearly 100, serving in a Senate the whole time, make terrible decisions for the rest of us. That they seem fixated on the way it used to be, and the fact they will likely die soon anyway, to care about the newer problems facing us all. They are blind to the wonders that await us if we got off this world, because they won't live long enough so why should they care.... It is sad that we can only hope those in power die so suddenly, that they don't press the button and try to take us all out with them... 'for our own good.'

  • @wasntwas
    @wasntwas4 ай бұрын

    I kinda want a mod that replaced the dyson sphere with a swarm, it probably exists but i cant look right now...

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Would be pretty cool!!

  • @kyltredragmire4939

    @kyltredragmire4939

    27 күн бұрын

    good news from the future! The game is officially receiving. dyson swarm.

  • @MasterTheSwag
    @MasterTheSwag4 ай бұрын

    Not to nitpick or anything but.The miles to km conversion for the sun was off by a zero for the km. Should be 4,739,000 km or 2,700,000 miles.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Ahh my bad, must have missed it in the edit, sorry!!

  • @trolly4233
    @trolly42334 ай бұрын

    spheres are inefficient and if u think about it, barbaric. "yes lets encase a star in giant metal plates." A dyson swarm is cheaper and can get more out power out of the star without damaging the planets around the star

  • @hal0justcal865
    @hal0justcal8654 ай бұрын

    It's so sad generator words are better than Dyson spheres (unless you find ruined one and repair) megastructures in vanilla need a buff imo mining and gen words really get you everything mega structures do

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Seconded. If you have Giga-structures installed, just go Penrose.

  • @justgoodvibes1500

    @justgoodvibes1500

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree. A Dyson sphere is supposed to power and entire civilization, not a small part of it. And don’t even get me started on forge ring worlds…

  • @FloridaBoyOnYoutube

    @FloridaBoyOnYoutube

    4 ай бұрын

    How are generator worlds better than dyson spheres? Every game I played never had a generator world get me to 1k energy a month, unlike dyson spheres.

  • @hal0justcal865

    @hal0justcal865

    4 ай бұрын

    @@FloridaBoyOnKZread well for the honest gen world you make sure it has high gen cap + machine world. Bio reactors energy grid and all gens. Since machine pops have intrinsic 15% base for energy and edicts etc your base production mid game reaches around + 35-40% (?) a proper built gen world will produce around 700-900 energy on just a planet whereas an actual Dyson would have to be built. To get the same energy output around mid game via Dyson you're looking at a HUGE alloy cost and time sink. Time and alloys better spent building ships and alike. While technically you're right, 1k from Dyson is a cool big number but 1 gen world gets you around there for a marginal cost allowing you to conquer other empires etc. vassal said empires and get further energy that way too..

  • @justgoodvibes1500

    @justgoodvibes1500

    4 ай бұрын

    @@FloridaBoyOnKZread well, an individual generator world is worse in terms of output. What makes them better is the fact that you can make multiple of them. They are also more efficient resource wise and you can make them early / mid game. And the best part of gen worlds is you can use the excess building slots for science, unity, naval cap (through soldier jobs), etc. the only reason to build one is if you are playing tall and want a massive navy that all your generator worlds can’t support. In that case (or others like it) go ham.

  • @ecogreen123
    @ecogreen1234 ай бұрын

    yes, always, never confront the galaxy without one.

  • @1650th
    @1650th4 ай бұрын

    The hive will observe the humans fail in their quest

  • @kukuc96
    @kukuc964 ай бұрын

    A star is technically a finite resource. It will take billions of years for most stars, and it can be extended even more, to trillions of years if you engage in starlifting, but it will run out. So technically speaking, solar is not renewable.

  • @Aureonw

    @Aureonw

    4 ай бұрын

    If you take by that logic all sources of energy are finite even blackhole energy extraction, the thing is if a species manages to capture a star's power by the time they need more power they would have come with multiple ways to get more and more efficiently

  • @kukuc96

    @kukuc96

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Aureonw Yes, all sources of energy are finite. That's the point. That's why entropy exists.

  • @Catversionofcat
    @Catversionofcat4 ай бұрын

    Laughs in Birch World

  • @TheLastSoundNL
    @TheLastSoundNL4 ай бұрын

    You probably want more than just solar panels as they heat up. If possible why not have something like water or better behind it hooked up to a turbine too. Eventually you want a Dyson sphere to rotate with the Earth. Remember we have fission energy, but that still just a fancy way of boiling water.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    we to this day still use water "powered solar pannels" i have a few friends that use them to heat water instead of just a boiler

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    The real issue would be disbursing all that heat. Everything I can think of, all what you described here, eventually leads to a melt down of the whole system. It isn't possible to capture that much heat energy and simply consume it, at least not yet. For me, that issue is far more troublesome then figuring out where we will get all the resources to build the thing. How do we stop the nearly closed system from eventually melting? This is why I like swarms myself, easy to replace individual components. In fact, you have a 'swarm generator' at a set distance away from the star and just drop the components slowly into said star. Generate and transmit the energy out, and when the heat gets to much... the molten mess takes all the excess heat back into the star.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lostbutfreesoul if you put the effort into making it fully enclosed your probs already using the energy tbf. and at this point its probs not that hard to start storing energy into kugleblitzs.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lostbutfreesoul if you star lift gas from the star then trans mutate the hydrogen into material, it could probably give you enough material to build.

  • @skeefz8790
    @skeefz87904 ай бұрын

    My lord, im on the toilet. Love your content.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Happy pooping

  • @seanhilton765
    @seanhilton7654 ай бұрын

    While I agree the comments section that a Dyson swarm is probably the more feasible solution, what’s sticking in the mud in my head is how’re we gonna draw power from it? Some sort of microwave ionization of our upper atmosphere or something? I’m just guessing based on what you in Dyson Sphere Program here so please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong or way off the mark here.

  • @Will-mk5pj
    @Will-mk5pj3 ай бұрын

    The answer is yes, but not with our own sun. We don’t want to freeze our own solar system.

  • @mafuyuhoshimiya8219
    @mafuyuhoshimiya82194 ай бұрын

    Funny how in Stellaris you can with proper technology and time require only 2.298*10^25 Watts to defy gravity of a black hole XD

  • @TheContingency25x
    @TheContingency25x4 ай бұрын

    We should build Ringworlds instead. RINGWORLD SUPREMACY!

  • @Loreweavver
    @Loreweavver4 ай бұрын

    This is one of many reasons we should be focused on colonizing Venus before Mars.

  • @xzardas541
    @xzardas5414 ай бұрын

    Energy generation is easy, transfer and storage is the hard part.

  • @OccasusRaven
    @OccasusRaven4 ай бұрын

    Humanity should then build that Dyson Sphere to around different star not our sun. Because solar system where it is all planets would die.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    planets are a waste of mass.

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mryellow6918 Solar systems are a waste of mass! - Blokkats.

  • @galomir833
    @galomir8334 ай бұрын

    could you made a lore video on gray ?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    It's included in this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3aMt5ucZMLMdNY.html

  • @galomir833

    @galomir833

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing thx i did look at the vid but i did not see that it included the Lgate network thx your for the info :)

  • @GuTTs1975
    @GuTTs19754 ай бұрын

    this type of project can happen if all of humanity are at peace, sadly peace is not human nature!

  • @lakdav
    @lakdav4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I doubt we have enough physical material in our solar system for a full Dyson Sphere even if it was 1mm thick. A swarm is just a better idea overall. It also won't "close the eye of the cosmic wanderer" constellation of a species we never cared for on the other end of the galaxy.

  • @mryellow6918

    @mryellow6918

    4 ай бұрын

    also leave room for star lifing.

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    By the time you are really ready to go Dyson Sphere, you are ready to turn the star into an propulsion drive.

  • @Thunder_warrior
    @Thunder_warrior3 ай бұрын

    We eill never build it

  • @JKavanagh-tq8rp
    @JKavanagh-tq8rp4 ай бұрын

    I never thought the energy credits concept was a good one in game, you need power and its kind of reflected as energy credits but not in any really logical way - you don't need to build a power station anywhere in the game for example. Energy credits as a currency makes even less sense, how do you barter CO2 credits with alien empires? If they ever address this in a future DLC it'll be interesting. Incant really imagine any currency needing to exist at all really, sort of like how ES2 handles it by replacing money with rare space drugs. Makes more sense. Gold or energy credits as an interstellar currency just doesn't stand up. Just my thought.

  • @theinternetpolice2078

    @theinternetpolice2078

    4 ай бұрын

    I always reckoned energy was used as a currency because, no matter what, every empire needed it. An alien might not even know what currency is, but all empires know what energy is and actively use it. I imagine they're traded in compact batteries, rather than bills.

  • @alexanderrohaj4794
    @alexanderrohaj47944 ай бұрын

    Day 2. Asking Blokkat Diplomacy Path (Joining Blokkat)

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Give them time, there is clearly a lot going on there. My last playthrough (failed alas, tiny maps and harder Blokkat's do not mix... I should really have taken the hint) showed a lot of possible paths in the make. Not just a way to knock out the bulwark, but options to leave the system and more. I didn't get far enough in to see what corrupting one of them will do, I am hopeful that it would lead to espionage options. I really do like the idea of espionage against them as well. If I had to ask for anything: a way to slow down the charge time on the system eating devices. Tiny Galaxies are consumed far to quickly for those within to unlock any of the above options. Making it so the largest galaxy your computer can run is the best defense against these things and that seems too... dependent on meatspace... for my liking. I play marathon games, even a good rig chokes on end-game with medium sized galaxies.

  • @ditlev5154
    @ditlev51544 ай бұрын

    lets rename dyson sphere to star balls

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Eloquent as ever Ditlev aha!

  • @justsomeginger2032

    @justsomeginger2032

    4 ай бұрын

    Space balls

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR WHEN

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Forever!!!

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR WHAT

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Forever!

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR WHO

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    ME!

  • @ecogreen123

    @ecogreen123

    4 ай бұрын

    me aswell!

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR WHERE

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Forever!!!!!

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR HOW

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Forever!!!!

  • @Anom_Anom
    @Anom_Anom4 ай бұрын

    ROUGE SERVITOR WHY

  • @lostbutfreesoul

    @lostbutfreesoul

    4 ай бұрын

    Forever!!

  • @alpharius365
    @alpharius3654 ай бұрын

    So uh.... It seems obvious, but I'll say it anyway. The solar system is a pancake. So is our galaxy. Nothing "above" or "below" the sun need light so don't build a dumbass sphere. You build two plates top and bottom and call it a day. 😂😂

  • @adorablecockroach5131

    @adorablecockroach5131

    3 ай бұрын

    Stars are spheres and emit there energy omnidirectional. You would be missing and thus wasting the energy if you do not completely surround it. Also the solar system is tipped about 60 degrees compared to the plane of the milky way.

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