What If We Had 1939 Borders In The Modern World
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Explore an intriguing alternate history scenario in our latest video: 'What If We Had 1939 Borders In The Modern World.' Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey through time, imagining a world where the borders of 1939 remained intact into the present day. Witness how this altered global map reshapes political dynamics, international relations, and the balance of power. From shifting alliances to the emergence of new geopolitical challenges, we'll delve into the implications of maintaining historical borders in a contemporary context. This 'What If' exploration offers fresh insights into the ways historical events continue to influence our world today. Don't miss this captivating perspective on a parallel reality. Like, comment, and subscribe for more 'What If' scenarios and explorations of how history shapes our present and future.
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Could you just imagine Japan holding that specific territory without officially annexing it and not trying to gain any more territory for 85 years?
@mappingshaman5280
10 ай бұрын
Turkish occupation of Syria moment
@ratisbonawau
10 ай бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280Goes for Northern Cyprus aswell
@silvialanfredi7388
10 ай бұрын
Yes but they are not so fare back in time
@Omega-mr1jg
10 ай бұрын
@@ratisbonawauthey literally have an official government there so no
@mappingshaman5280
10 ай бұрын
@warinhari5050 well northern Cyprus is a puppet state to be fair whereas the Turkish occupation zone in Syria is just a military occupation by turkish troops with neither Turkish expansion, withdrawal or annexation within sight currently.
"Hey? Are you OK? Everyone is spamming "First!" Don't worry. I will protect you. Just enjoy the video."
@The_Otto_Von_Bismarck
10 ай бұрын
I love how people spam first as if they're going to get a medal
@oracle372
10 ай бұрын
Nobody spammed first
@DinoRicky
10 ай бұрын
Thxs bro
@DragonTheOneDZA
10 ай бұрын
F... First?
@Noteclipsor
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely trueè
Petition for a 1942 and a 1950 version
@awesomepotatoes540
10 ай бұрын
Yes
@lukacvitanovic1206
10 ай бұрын
Yess
@fullpotentialanakin1529
10 ай бұрын
He announced that he would do 1942 but he didn't say anything about 1950
@ammazer1229
10 ай бұрын
1950 would be pretty much the same except the Soviet Union (and some soon to be independent colonies)
@Thatguywithaspoon2
10 ай бұрын
Yes
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13:54 "italy is staying in 8th place which i think is unique." Germany being in 4th place: *am i a joke to you?*
@schellwalabyen4656
10 ай бұрын
Noticed that too, lol.
This scenario would also mean Finland reversing the territorial losses of the end of the Winter War (1940), the end of the Continuation War (1944) and the final Paris peace treaty (1947), regaining the borders of the peace of Tartu (1920), but only gaining small amounts of new population and GDP. I guess that's... Acceptable? For Finland, I mean. But for the Russians? Not a big loss, but a slap to the face anyway. Politico-militarily, however, the effects would actually have a major impact: the islands in the Gulf of Finland would thus become NATO territory, and Russia would lose its Alakurtti airbase in the North as well as the port of Petsamo (which would allow Finland to conduct trade and post naval units to the Arctic waters near Murmansk).
@marysartr
10 ай бұрын
And Russia would gain like, the baltics and Ukraine and Central Asia
@J069FIX
10 ай бұрын
@@marysartr I meant in this case to simply focus on the borders between Finland and Russia. But the Baltic states could still remain, depending on what month of 1939 we pick for this scenario. For most of the year, they were still free and independent.
@marysartr
10 ай бұрын
@@J069FIX they were annexed in 1940 so my bad on that
@mariasirona1622
10 ай бұрын
Although the russian people in the area see Finland in a fairly positive light, i doubt they would be loyal, so this could be a disaster for Finland
I like how brazil stays relevant even with the British,French Empire back and the Soviets lol
@microwave856
10 ай бұрын
It's because of how many big countries (India, South Korea, etc) get fucked over boosting brazil up
@brasilballs
10 ай бұрын
my inner patriot tells me to be proud of it but we all know it's just because a third of the countries in the lists got wiped out in the process
@ssjjshawn
Ай бұрын
@@brasilballs>Brazil makes the list Via murders of other Somehow that fitting
I would love to see simmilar video for 1760's, with Germany split, Poland Lithuania still there, Britain owning US etc.
I loved the last video of the pre-WWI borders so much! Thanks for making another video like that!
Great video! It's great to know whenever Im bored, I'll always have your amazing history content, good work!
What would happen if the borders that EmperorTigerstar had made would apply to the modern world?
@wolfwarrior9451
9 ай бұрын
What video are you referencing?
@DEEJAY440
3 ай бұрын
His viewers decide ww1 peace treaties video i believe?
Thank you so much for these videos Possible History they are the best videos ever! Teaching me so much Historic knowledge.
Our favorite Alternative history channel has uploaded again
This might be my favorite video you’ve ever made.
I know it s a silly idea bit for me would be funny a video like"what if the world had the borders of Risk"
@GeoToon
10 ай бұрын
That would be great lol, but risk sometimes skips islands (there is no Philippines) and the map isn’t accurate and some places are increased, squished together, but It would be great.
Wonderful and great video! I really enjoyed it, keep up the great work. I always admire your research and art.
What if we had 1821 to 1822 borders in the modern era?
@gamingroo762
10 ай бұрын
Wot
@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod
10 ай бұрын
Cursed
@Drakulus
10 ай бұрын
Most of Africa would be empty lol
@Videoguy-xw8ct
10 ай бұрын
@@Drakulusmaybe thats to point
@minestar2247
10 ай бұрын
Morocco and algeria would be less angry at france and at each other
The 1942 version would really show how well the Axis did compared to how outgunned and outnumbered they were.
@HiroProtag
9 ай бұрын
Surprise attacking all their neighbors really gave them a head start…
@kennedytheretard975
9 ай бұрын
@@HiroProtagfighting 3 superpowers and reaching the level they did is still very good though.
@arielest6749
9 ай бұрын
from 1942 it was basically down hill for the axis
@indiafirst3676
9 ай бұрын
He made the video today
@phase0400
9 ай бұрын
@@HiroProtag Poland knew an invasion was coming, they had months to prepare (although ill count it). After the Polish defeat, British and French troops just sat around doing nothing. If we had attacked Germany whilst they were finishing off Poland, it would have been an easy victory. Allied preparations were built in Norway, before the invasion, the same for the French. The only time where there was a true surprise attack was the Soviet Union.
can you make a video about the different peace deals and the border changes during the Napoleonic wars?
Nice video as always my dude :D
I love possible history keep posting
What if the Russians never helped the austrians with the Hungarian Rebellion
@themessiath0728
9 ай бұрын
Really good one!
Amazing video as always man! Idea for your war series: one for austria from a margraviate to the empire!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤ Leave hearth man!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Amazing! Could you do 1960 borders next?
fun and interesting vid to watch love ur content
I'd be super interested to see one during the early modern era, during the height of colonialism, divided Germany and Italy/a Holy Roman Empire, and if you pick the right date, a divided or British United States. I think either right before the American Revolution, Civil War, or Napoleonic Wars would be the best dates for this
@nafe516
10 ай бұрын
Also yeah 1942 borders could be fun
After watching so many overseas creators, I am happy to have a creator from my same timezome which makes conten I like.
Okay, seriously, HOW DO YOU MEASURE THIS. I have so many alternate worlds and maps and I’d honestly love to be able to know how their population, GDP, economy, military, etc. all changes Edit: I find it honestly really fascinating how consistent Italy is in both population and GDP
Great vid! One note about the British Empire's GDP; while it is "only" 15.1 trillion, its important to note how economies in places like India and Bangladesh are booming in our timeline, and imo with increased help from the mainland and other colonies, that economic growth is going to be even more rapid in this timeline. So while the GDP would be at 15.1 trillion "now", it would be the fastest growing economy since China's economic miracle a few decades ago, maybe even moreso than that, and would likely overtake the US economy in 15 or 20 years.
What if the Italian king was offered the Throne of Spain instead of being offered to the Germans
@concept5631
10 ай бұрын
I wanna learn more about this. What time period was it?
@haven1110
10 ай бұрын
@@concept5631I think they may be referring to when the Hohenzollerns were offered the Spanish Throne in the very late 1800’s, just before the Franco-Prussian war.
@concept5631
10 ай бұрын
@@haven1110 Wasn't the monarch German?
@obiwankenobi7251
10 ай бұрын
He was offered the throne. In 1870 after the Hohenzollern prince refused the throne following the pressure from the king of Prussia Wilhelm I at the time, the Spanish offered the throne to prince Amadeo the Duke of Aosta. He accepted and became the king of Spain. Re reigned from 1870 to 1873. He abdicated the throne in 1873 because of political infighting and instability. He famously said that Spain was a country that couldn't be governed. After his abdication, Spain became a republic for a year ( the first republic 1873-1874, not to be confused with the more famous second republic 1932-1936). After that they invited the Bourbons back on the throne.
@concept5631
10 ай бұрын
@@obiwankenobi7251 Imagine being such a mess your monarch just gives up.
I know this was six+ months ago, but i would love a part two done by my favorite alt history KZreadr!!!
13:53 Italy: im happy with what i have
hey possible history can you tell me what you are using in 11:30. btw great video
I like how Brazil didn't change a single thing, yet appeared on 4 of those 6 lists
6:11 I never realized how similar Belgium looks to post WW2 Yugoslavia, I csn never look at her the same way from now on
Hey man,with what app do you make this maps
It would be interesting to see a video like this for 100 CE, the approximate greatest extent of the Roman Empire. Although I suppose most of the world wasn’t divided in to states at that point.
Hey man! Huge fan from colombia here! Heres an idea for you: What kf everything went perfect for colombia and Simón bolivar managed to unite the former spanish colonies into a super power with gran colombia at its head? 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴
@Z2N3
10 ай бұрын
Great idea! he should do this.
@OddlyStrange117
10 ай бұрын
This is an cool idea actually
@DinoRicky
10 ай бұрын
Good idea
@elianes5505
10 ай бұрын
I've been wanting him to make a "what if spanish america united" for a while, so I support this!!!
A 1942 and a Cold War version of this video would be cool
I love this type of video, the ____ borders today. You should do more of it.
This will be another great video probably 😁
Great through video! which I'm interested in that 1942 video and what if we reverted to the height of communism/Cold War borders?
Would be interesting to see a 1772/1775 version
I read this as "What if we had 1,939 borders"
Nice video! Now try it with napoleonic map! It will be fun lol.
As an Indonesian, the thing that happened to us if 1939 goes back is probably we'll have more loanwords into Malay language here than already has, and the city planning will become more "European" like we used to had in 1950's. Anyway, I made a list of Indonesian word borrowed from Dutch word translated into English: [English] [Indonesian] - Office Kantor - Railroad Rel kereta/Sepur - Aunty Tante - Towel Handuk - Room Kamar And more.
@vp.rossen
7 ай бұрын
do you guys still make spices or nah
@haikalmiftah2529
7 ай бұрын
@@vp.rossen Indeed, mostly for local cuisine, since it needs lot of spices to be made.
The GDP figures are a couple of years outdated. Buts still an awesome video.
Goa & Timor seems to have been forgotten with Portugal.
How do you get your maps please?
I would really enjoy the same video but for 1800 or the start of the napoleonic or french revolutionary wars
Summed up RealLifeLores most interesting videos in less than 20 minutes, I’m impressed.
@priyansh_12391
3 ай бұрын
which one? the british empire video?
Crazy that Brazil managed to make the cut AGAIN
Love this statistics!
Jeez Cody how many KZread channels do you have?
I think its quite a fascinating video. it just shows how much growth has happened in Africa.
You could do this but backwards, so ww1/ww2 with modern day borders and either modern day stats or ww1/ww2 stats.
I feel like the reunited British Empire would be frankly terrifying if led properly. The vast amount of people and resources, if developed and not exploited could be insane.
@Crimsrn
8 ай бұрын
You spelled brilliant wrong
Three Macaus would match the combined output of Angola, Mozambique, Sao Tome and Principe... Wild
@GeoToon
10 ай бұрын
Cabo Verde too
Hey I have a recoomended scenario tho I dont know if you will see it or do it: what if the industrial revolution started in Russia? or perphaps even China? consider one of the 2 nations
GDP per capita would be appreciated. Also, when you use GDP figures comparing the different time periods, are these adjusted for inflation at all? It is not clear, although I assume not.
@GoingForth
6 ай бұрын
Spending time researching all of those numbers you mentioned is hard, man. You'll kill the guy 😂
@whitehawk4099
6 ай бұрын
@@GoingForth Well, there are already GDP and population numbers, so it would require a single division for each country in question. Inflation adjustment is more difficult, of course, as currency has changed a great deal since 1939.
As a citizen of the wildcard nation, I would just like to make a slight correction about the maps at the end: we joined the war in 1942 because Germany kept sinking our ships in the Atlantic, not just to join the UN. We did however only fight in mainland Europe during the invasion of Italy, before then we were just involved in naval skirmishes.
Hi, could you post your sources for the 1939 GDP please?
that's really cool and weird at the same time can you try 1800 Borders you can use AI to predict it
Wow it's hard to imagine all the changes in the map of the Americas between 1939 and now. (Sarcasm.)
Idk if it's just me but for me, binkov's battlegrounds, monsieur z and possible history sound exactly the same.
We need a 270 AD version
cool video now do one with 1200 BC borders
It would be intresting to see this scenario taking borders 1 year before french Revolution
13:28 - that's really sad from the time perspective. Poland was 10th economy in the world, but firstly German invasion destroyed the country, then Soviet occupation in 1945-1990 stop it's economy from growing up. Even now Poland isn't even in top 20. And still Germans will argue that they does not owe Poland any reparations.
What if everything went perfect for Greece
@pelinalwhitestrake3367
10 ай бұрын
Alexander would live for longer and even conquer India. After his death his Empire wouldn't break up and his descendants would conquer Rome and Carthage, fully dominating the ancient world (except China).
You should make a What if everything went perfect for the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth
Maybe it would have been better had we made the Imperial Federation and keep Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa under the Crown.
@mappingshaman5280
10 ай бұрын
If we made the imperial federation pretty soon (and by that I mean immediately) it would be the indian empire, with the Indian population easily overpowering every other population in the empire through numbers alone. If migration and voting rights were allowed to india, it would be like South Africa today with one ethnic group dominating everything and only electing their parties.
@Strettger
10 ай бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 Why would we want to invite non Dominions into the Federation?
@mappingshaman5280
10 ай бұрын
@Strettger well personally I wouldn't but there would be many whom would advocate to do so because "not doing so is waycist" or "I want to have more of the map."
@Strettger
10 ай бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280 Well it's hardly racist, the Imperial Federation was to expand the UK to incorporate the Dominions and that being the ruling body of the Empire.
@TheSwedishHistorian
10 ай бұрын
@@mappingshaman5280india is too big too be in a union with any country
Heres an alternate history aspect that never gets talked about. What of the Ottomans remained neutral in WW1, for example the ships they ordered and pay for by the British get delivered, would the Sultan be less inclined to join the Central Powers?
Ok now this is epic
Time Traveller: moves chair The timeline:
Belgium: i need some colonies to have a some paper in this history Brazil with not changes: 💪
seems kind of funky to make a scenario where there are countries actively at war. like what would happen between japan and china? all of a sudden the chinese army becomes 30x the size of the japanese? and equipment rains down from the heavens??!
Italy is just lazy to move to other spots on the list, too much work
Egypt was not really colonised by UK in WW2. It had its independence but with a British influence on the region.
The goat has posted 💪
What if Beer Hall Putsch was successful? I can't figure out how ww2 would start
The issue with 20th century maps is USA still has so much weight due to their massive weapons industry and soft power than at no point do you have a real contender, they'd still decide everything. You should try something like 1815 (the end of the napoleonic conflicts), or 1803 (right before them). So at least you have a smaller USA, Or 1559 (the end of the italian wars), if you want a REALLY small USA and a Spain that hasn't yet eaten most of america. Or hell you could try to get further back before the fall of the aztecs so you have no USA and small spain still. (since BEEG SPAIN is likely to be the factor that makes maps boring on that period... then again sheer instability is bound to make them useless as world police. Or hell you could just give the viceroyalties independence for the sake of having fun.)
10:10 you accidentally used the 1939 Italy map for the left image (istria shouldn't be included)
2:30 What about southern Dobruja?
the music in the background is too good i cant listen to what hes actually saying
I think the U.S. gdp would have changed more if you included the Panama Canal Zone
nice
the only reason i would like this is that greater romania becomes a thing again
you forgot giving southern dobruja to Romania, as at this Romania would still hold it for another year
Can you do 1848 borders in modern world
What about ww2's and Europe's most important nation? Slovakia. This is honestly so sad to see the quality of your videos go😢
@kyran243
10 ай бұрын
What are you going on about? He is doing a great job and the videos are getting better and better.
@GeoToon
10 ай бұрын
What are you taking about. Slovakia was a German puppet and wouldn’t change that much, the quality of these videos are great. Unless you’re being satire.
@terzaera2512
10 ай бұрын
@@GeoToonthere's no way they're being serious lol
@hiplsnols4394
10 ай бұрын
how can people not get ur joking?
12:28 Damn italy didnt move. Too lazy or too unlucky?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🧐
I think at 3:55 you meant for it to say billion not million
That would be sick
Japan would be able to relase anime episodes more often than per a week wow
What about the panama canal?
10:31 does modern Italy look strange to you?
What if everything went perfect for Imperial Austria next!
1).What if Iran wasn't islamic cause it never fell to the Arab invasions ? Iran could have remained zoroastrian. India and central asia would have remained free of islam too .What would the ramifications be ? 2). What if the world of 'The Peshawar Lancers ' by S.M Stirling was real ? 3). What if north India became completely or majority islamic by 1900 or earlier and india was partitioned bw an islamic north india and hindu south India ? Pls make a video on any of these if you are interested
0.1 seconds later: Complete chaos.