"The biggest argument against democracy is letting people vote for a fictional peace deal." - Winston Churchill, 2023

@Godzilla00X

7 ай бұрын

Stalin after the peace conference "I've said it before and I'll say it again comrades, democracy doesn't work"

@Sana_a04

7 ай бұрын

"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried" - Churchill before watching this video

@righthandstep5

7 ай бұрын

​@@Godzilla00XLove homer simpson

@minestar2247

7 ай бұрын

@@Godzilla00X wasn't Stalin a defender of democracy and personal freedom? He did say once that he can hardly imagine a starving person being free

@WhenAllTheWarmthLeavesUs

7 ай бұрын

@@minestar2247 xd u gotta be kidding bro

I love how the division of Rome from Italy is predicated on the same concept of Prussia being dismantled from Germany because of 'Prussian militarism'

@letthereberock8637

7 ай бұрын

While Prussia comes back

@emib6599

7 ай бұрын

I need an alternative scenario where Italy 🇮🇹 carry all the major european war with the objective of restoring the Roman Empire, but it's somehow extremely competent and efficient.

@henninglaksholm3297

7 ай бұрын

@@emib6599 like a what if everything went right for modern italy?

@emib6599

7 ай бұрын

@@henninglaksholm3297 Nope 🙅🏻 because modern Italy had some very inferior ideas 💡 of local maritime egemony in the Mediterranean at maximum and the Roman empire was joke propaganda for ignorant masses. I mean the late 1800 Italy that was formed only for few decades and it still had political movement that really wanted the whole Roman Empire back not as a propaganda symbol but as real territorial unification of Europe, North Africa and Middle East under one government.

@SRAMLiraium

7 ай бұрын

​​@@emib6599LOSE OF ROMAN EMPİRE 1453m

This is gonna go so awful, and I'm all here for it.

@ColinWilliams-ml9bx

7 ай бұрын

We are the worst diplomats the world has ever seen

@loganicfilms1388

7 ай бұрын

@@ColinWilliams-ml9bx 100%. I tried to be fair and this is horrible. I think I did vote for Mongolia tho. Anyway do the World War One vote.

@Paulonmp

7 ай бұрын

What u guys vote for on Alsace??

@SketchG

7 ай бұрын

Why hello there old sport

@dogomog125

7 ай бұрын

Jack?

> USSR wins war. > USSR looses territory. Your tactics confuse and frighten me, sir.

@Anarcho-Stupidity

4 ай бұрын

Just like in the congress

@mursulesku

2 ай бұрын

Its ok, it just shows how people dont know nor understand so much, but they think they do, and its all make pretend anyway, lets have fun :D

I love the fact that overtime Possible History has just embraced the fact the viewers are going to fuck everything up and is having to play yes man for them anyway with thinly veiled criticism of their decisions

@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

7 ай бұрын

I voted for western victory in everything. Would there be an option I would order an Allied invasion of the USSR and its balkanization also.

@user-zn7nd5ti6w

7 ай бұрын

​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714least biased viewer's opinion

@minestar2247

7 ай бұрын

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 are you serious? The soviet union was a bastion of communism, democracy and personal freedom, also, that would have been impossible because of it's strengh

@MayoOverlord

7 ай бұрын

@@minestar2247 Ah yes famous democraticly elected leader Stalin and the democratic staples of the Gulag and NKVD.

@minestar2247

7 ай бұрын

@@MayoOverlord Yes, Stalin was kinda like Roosevelt's first term. But the people did have a right of vote for local representatives, even if it was 1 party, they needed 50% at least of the people to vote for them, even the hospitalised and imprisoned. The us has the highest prison population in the world, even higher than the gulags, even in percentages

Clearly the answer to an unstable Yugoslavia wasn't a strongman (Tito), it was to make it even larger. That's sure to make it more stable! Particularly since the USSR would be so content with this map, they certainly wouldn't do anything to destabilise it...

@supergowiak4369

7 ай бұрын

They should also add western Slavs to Yugoslavia. That wiuld surely work out well

@CivilWarMan

7 ай бұрын

The viewers' solution to the Balkan powder keg is apparently trying to stuff the keg so full of powder that there isn't enough oxygen to support a flame that would set it off.

@plasmakitten4261

7 ай бұрын

I think people voted for beeg Yugoslavia solely on the assumption that Tito would still be leading it. Given what happened OTL, I have full confidence that he could have held all of it together until his death, so no real harm done compared to OTL as I don't think the addition of Bulgaria would make the Yugoslav collapse much worse because they would probably just leave. And in the meantime, the people of Bulgaria get to enjoy the benefits of Tito's superior version of communism.

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, if anyone could make this Frankenstein abomination last for most of the Cold War then it'd probably be Tito.

@Ower8x

7 ай бұрын

@@plasmakitten4261also with the addition of the Bulgars the Serbs will no longer be so mono Dominant .... which may have consequences down the line .... maybe even preventing the dissolution for longer

Congrats on making China the sole future Superpower of Asia by Balkanizing India, Congrats Guys

@genovayork2468

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, India is not a nation state, unlike China.

@KevekGaming

7 ай бұрын

Real great guys, this won't be awdul in 80 years from now.

@Samuil-iq6eb

7 ай бұрын

India is not a nation state.

@genovayork2468

7 ай бұрын

India is not a nation.

@Samuil-iq6eb

7 ай бұрын

India has many nations inside.

POV: MacArthur wrote the peace deal

This was a much less cursed map than I was expecting. Honestly shocked Russia didn’t get carved up more than Germany.

@TheManinBlack9054

7 ай бұрын

Wins the war, loses territory in the victory treaty.

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

Best scenario for WW2 would've been an alliance of Poland, Germany, Britain, France and perhaps others against the Soviet Union. This could've been possible if a more moderate leader came to power in Germany in the 1930s instead of A.H. or if A.H. was removed from power before 1939. Germany could still get most of the territory it had by the end of 1938 without having really bad relations with Britain and France. Germany could have given guarantees to defend Eastern European countries against Soviet aggression. An alliance between Germany, Britain and France was possible before the German occupation of Czechia in March 1939. In case of a Soviet attack in this scenario the Soviets wouldn't have any allies or the Lend - Lease and would've been defeated by the European anti-Soviet coalition.

@jfacum24

7 ай бұрын

​@@hendriktonisson2915what are you talking about, do you even know what sides fought in ww2? the germans were the baddies, not the soviets!

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

@@jfacum24 I'm talking about an alternate scenario. Read my comment again.

@kingofhearts3185

7 ай бұрын

@@jfacum24 He said if there was a more moderate leader, NOT AH, or if he was removed before 1939. Actually read the comment.

Seems like these viewers are experts at making peace deals that last all of five minutes. Also, they really, really despise Russia.

@HeadsetHatGuy

7 ай бұрын

now they're going to feel the wrath of the soviets

@wires-sl7gs

7 ай бұрын

Given current events, it's not surprising.

@kevinboros7427

7 ай бұрын

@@wires-sl7gs Yes, it's also extremely predictable and boring.

@wires-sl7gs

7 ай бұрын

@@kevinboros7427 Agreed

@rarescevei8268

7 ай бұрын

​@@kevinboros7427It is also immature

This will be so humiliating for Russia, waiting for another video where WW3 starts over this

@alphabetaomega265

7 ай бұрын

Hope we’ll be able to vote for the peace treaty of that WW3

@kxmapper

7 ай бұрын

@@alphabetaomega265 we can create an infinite series then

@sprintfoxy1240

7 ай бұрын

@@hendriktonisson2915 No

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

@@sprintfoxy1240 Any explanations?

@sprintfoxy1240

7 ай бұрын

@@hendriktonisson2915 Do i really need too ? Isn't it obvious that letting nazi Germany have great influence like that (they will have control over baltics,Ukraine,Belarus,Moscow and even Poland), creating a massive bloody war and expanding nazi ideology through Europe will doom the world ?

A very wise man once said: "Letting the internet decide on ANYTHING, is like giving a machine gun to a chimp." And I think that's beautiful.

@Wendeta-hq2cp

7 ай бұрын

We're talking about entertainment, so of course it is!

@minestar2247

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, or even better, giving a tank to a band of chimps

@bunniifangz

7 ай бұрын

Slippin Jimmy i can handle just fine but Slippin Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun-

@orangerthings8234

7 ай бұрын

it works sometimes, but most of the time it backfires heavily

@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508

6 ай бұрын

I will do it and you can't stop me

Seeing the French-Piedmontese house of Savoy ruling over Southern Italy and Sardinia is already much of a border gore to me (I know that in our timeline they were the ones who voted for the monarchy to stay, but still)

@MrTohawk

7 ай бұрын

you could bring back the heir of the house Bourbon-Two Sicilies who ruled that kingdom exact of two sicilies before.

@Samuil-iq6eb

7 ай бұрын

​@@MrTohawkTwo Siciles didn't have Sardinia.

@vincenzosorrentino5300

7 ай бұрын

​@@MrTohawkthis. I am from Southern Italy and some people I know still are 'NeoBourbonists' and believe they were extremely cool unlike stupid Savoy.

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

Meh, it's not like the fallen Romanovs didn't have German origins. Having foreign relations is kind of a thing for monarchical houses.

Damn it's a good job all them Soviet troops stationed throughout Eastern Europe just left and went home, glad there was no instability at all

@alexeyamosov664

7 ай бұрын

I totally see them just accepting this after having their country absolutely devastated and losing 27 million people. Also I just love that Reddit wants to punish Russia for invading Ukraine so badly that they don’t give Ukraine its territories back from Poland.

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

Ukraine got caught between the rock (anti-Russian sentiment) and the hard place (pro-Polish sentiment).

> Fights War of Extermination. > _Loses land and influence._ Great job, viewers. I'm sure this diplomacy would last.

@Gordonjamesheneryproductions

7 ай бұрын

Well they did also start the war with Germany so

@eduardopupucon

7 ай бұрын

and all because of political decisions they made 90 years in the future

@baneofbanes

3 ай бұрын

@@Gordonjamesheneryproductionsand they were still one of the big three who were victors in the war. I don’t like Stalin or the Soviets but good fucking luck with taking territory from them in a peace treaty where they’re among the victors.

@voided_sun

2 ай бұрын

@@Gordonjamesheneryproductions I thought that Germany and the Soviets had a non-aggression pact where they carved up Poland, until Germany invaded the Soviets?

@50pka

2 ай бұрын

​@@voided_sunAll of Europe had non-aggression pacts with Germany. With the division of Poland, everything is generally clear: without it, Germany would have been even stronger, even more people would have been killed in concentration camps and USSR would have had a more difficult time in the war. It was simply a necessary step.

Im shocked the redditors let the soviets have anything.

@plasmakitten4261

7 ай бұрын

I mean I think PH viewers are actually quite rational about the consequences of their actions except in certain specific cases. They weren't trying to screw over the Soviets, they just really like Poland.

@mappingshaman5280

7 ай бұрын

@plasmakitten4261 yeah but I didn't expect the soviets to get anything, I thought it was going to be monarchy and democracy up the wazoo and no soviet expansion in the east, even south sakhalin. Every single one of these polls is basically "Russia bad, Germany good" except this one.

@plasmakitten4261

7 ай бұрын

@@mappingshaman5280 Not really, they're all "Poland good, anything that could possibly obstacle Poland bad", and Russia has been an unfortunate casualty of the pro-Poland crusade in both this and the Congress of Vienna videos.

the Soviets would prefer nuclear war to this peace deal.

@KevekGaming

7 ай бұрын

No way in hell thd Soviets accept this.

@wires-sl7gs

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, would of been more acceptable if Russa kept the Baltic and got Poland and Czechoslovakia as puppets.

@patrickstar5136

7 ай бұрын

well they didn't have nukes back then so it wouldn't be much of a war

@matthiuskoenig3378

7 ай бұрын

I mean neither did the allies, they had 3 nukes in the war, 2 were used in Japan. That leaves 1 for the Soviets assuming the plane doesn't get shot down. They had the material and facilties to build 15 more by the end of 1945. But they are still delivered by regular bombers which can be shot down by the still viable soviet airforce. So there is going to be a conventional war, with nukes at the end *if* the allies win air superioty AND do so before the war ends.

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

Best scenario for WW2 would've been an alliance of Poland, Germany, Britain, France and perhaps others against the Soviet Union. This could've been possible if a more moderate leader came to power in Germany in the 1930s instead of A.H. or if A.H. was removed from power before 1939. Germany could still get most of the territory it had by the end of 1938 without having really bad relations with Britain and France. Germany could have given guarantees to defend Eastern European countries against Soviet aggression. Before the German occupation of Czechia in March 1939 an alliance between Germany, Britain and France against the Soviets was a real possibility. In case of a Soviet attack in this scenario the Soviets wouldn't have any allies or the Lend - Lease and would've been defeated by the European anti-Soviet coalition.

Ironically the only thing not balkanized was the balkans

@Posidon09

2 ай бұрын

Omg😂

@jack727dave5

Ай бұрын

Wait, why would the balkans get indiaized?

I wish you included more of the voting results like with the other videos. That is so fun for me to see just how close or not close the results were!

@communisticus191

7 ай бұрын

Also helps to see if some of the votes were taken under the assumption that other votes would succeed. Especially for the ruling government, since thats one of the biggest factors in determining how happy every major power is (Just as an example, if the baltics, poland, and the southern german confederation including the czechs went communist, the Soviets would be much more favorable to the deal). You can kinda tell it probably happened a decent bit, removing Franco because hes a totalitarian but then reinstating totalitarians in Poland is an interesting play Idk if those specific votes were actually close, but its interesting to see how far we were from a deal that actually could have worked.

I have a feeling this Cold War might not be so cold

@BrandonBDN

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but the Soviets immediately lose

@PleasantParkandStarySuburbs

15 күн бұрын

Hot war

Cursed western victory. I'm sure everything will go well, especially if you make a timeline from this!

@HeadsetHatGuy

7 ай бұрын

why do i hear siren

@ComradeObtain5n

7 ай бұрын

@@HeadsetHatGuy Soviet invasion of Europe speedrun any%

@matthiuskoenig3378

7 ай бұрын

Soviets will 100% cause a war over this if this is before the nukes are dropped, possibly even after the nukes were dropped as the Soviets know the limited number of nukes are mostly used on japan. Or the soviet refuse to leave their occupated areas and the allies start operation unthinkable. Eitherway I see ww2 continuing between Soviets and allies in 1945/46, like little to no gap.

@rarescevei8268

7 ай бұрын

​@@matthiuskoenig3378And what's worse, the USA has to wait to procure more nukes as the 3 it had were used.

@jsw973

7 ай бұрын

Is that a red alert I hear in the distance?

Just gonna leave it here but i would be very much interested in seeing a "What if Everything went perfect for Bavaria" beginning in 555

@denizmergen418

7 ай бұрын

Germany has a cooler capital

@dement_tf2maybe

7 ай бұрын

@@denizmergen418 lmao

@ratisbonawau

7 ай бұрын

@@denizmergen418 Exactly 😭

@concept5631

7 ай бұрын

Virgin "What If Everything Went Perfect For Germany" Chad "What If Everything Went Perfect For Bavaria" *_Thad "What If Everything Went Perfect For Saxony"_*

@Blue_SaaS

7 ай бұрын

@@concept5631 What if everything went perfect for Ulm

Honestly, if the Soviets had a few more puppets, it seems actually like a good deal. And maybe a little different Asia.

The funny part with Schleswig-Holstein is that denmark didnt want it back.

@Iason29

3 ай бұрын

Unless there was some kind of population exchange, otherwise they decided that the German majority there would always cause problems.

@voided_sun

2 ай бұрын

It seemed like many smaller nations were hesitant, because taking land would inevitably lead to more disputes and conflict in the future.

His tone in some places reminds me of the Fallout New Vegas Yes Man when you destroy the securitron army at the fort instead of taking control of them like a sane person. "Wow, you really restored Poland as an anti-communist dictatorship!... Great! No problem!"

"We achieved violence in our time" -The viewers probably

bismark is rolling in his grave over that peace deal

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

No change from our timeline then.

When I read the option for dividing up India, I had assumed that it would be along the lines of the Princely States. I didn't expect a total ethnic balkanization.

I wonder what would happen after that. I want to see the alternate timeline, especially the continuation of the series about the viewer map of Africa.

@servantmapper8893

7 ай бұрын

Absolute Chad commenting like this before the video is even released.

@baronnolanvonstraya5743

7 ай бұрын

@@servantmapper8893he's getting in here first for those fake internet points

@servantmapper8893

7 ай бұрын

💀@@baronnolanvonstraya5743

@KFP_Prophet

7 ай бұрын

Soviets would be salty, Northern Italy would probably become an example of a "successful" socialist state & probably close trade partners with Yugoslavia, atleast compared to Southern Italy, German politics would probably be dominated by the reunification question for decades, RoC may beat PRoC, but either one would probably invade unstable mongolia and manchuria to get their land back, Cold War would probably be further factionalised as socialist states following the Italian model diverge from Stalinist Russia, India might unify under some of the stronger states or there might be a lot of war. Same with SEA. Japan probably does a bit better than our timeline.

Soviets: I took on 80% of the wermacht and lost a quarter of my population Allies: Yes and we'll never forget your sacrifice! Soviets: So do i get some land as compensation Allies: LOL no

@ruas4721

7 ай бұрын

Germans: Could you please nuke us, would be better than to go back to feudal HRE.

russia and china, the countries that suffered the most under WW2 and were crucial in securing an allied victory, are surely gonna be incredibly happy with LOSING land in the peace conference lmao

@EliteWood1337

7 ай бұрын

fr in every single vote people are just screwing up Russia because of current events and it's really predictable and dumb.

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

That Manchurian Qing state is a humongous slap in the face too. Way more so than American Taiwan. It basically legitimizes Imperial Japan's illegal seizure of Manchuria and vindicates its puppet emperor Puyi, the deposed last Emperor of China, for collaborating with the Japanese. Honestly, this one might be an even worse decision than letting Poland keep both the east lands and interwar dictatorship. Embracing an artificial Japanese collaborationist "nation" in the postwar world will *absolutely* go over well at the peace negotiations.

if you do The Cold War, you should have it be titled "How my Followers caused the World to End"

This would probably have been the least awful peace deal yet if not for our collective obsession with Poland. Letting Stalin puppet Poland would have probably made him more or less OK with this outcome, as while he has lost Baltic Sea access compared to OTL, he has gained massive dominance over the Black Sea and at least somewhat non-hostile regimes in large parts of the Mediterranean. He also got Sakhalin, which is all he could really want in the East, and the expansion of states which could easily fall into the Soviet sphere into Chinese territory.

@jefflistman4178

7 ай бұрын

Puppeted Poland basically guarantees the Baltic states fall back in to the Soviet orbit, so Stalin would certainly be happy enough with that. The borders the viewers drew, on the other hand, ensures that Soviet troops never withdraw from the frontlines. Puppet states by another name, I suppose.

@KiraiKatsuji

7 ай бұрын

BUT POLAND NEEDS TO BE STRONK!!!

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

And the underdeveloped eastern regions populated by Ukrainians /Belarusians are not necessary for Poland to be "stronk". All those do is paint a bright red Soviet target on Poland's back.

@KiraiKatsuji

7 ай бұрын

@@gengarzilla1685 Listen bigger equates stonker no matter that the cultural tears cause more problem than their worth

@plasmakitten4261

7 ай бұрын

@@KiraiKatsuji This is just going to get them invaded by the Soviets all over again. You can't make Poland stronk with changes at this point in the timeline, it's too late for that. Try the WW1 poll if you want a stronk Poland.

Unfortunately i missed the voting for this, which is sad because it's quite interesting. An idea i'd have going forward is to have fictional viewer voted peace deals from an alternate victory perspective. Like said the viewers voting on a WW1 Central Power victory peace deal, or a WW2 Axis Victory peace deal. While technically not a peace deal, it would also be cool to vote on the possible collapse of the Warsaw Pact/NATO at the end of the cold war. Really enjoying these vids. Keep it up dude!

@Kanabai1871

7 ай бұрын

Voting on peace deals from an alternate perspective seems like a really great idea

@lronhayden

7 ай бұрын

Look at the description, there’s one you can join rn

@Donlot_

7 ай бұрын

@@lronhayden Will do! Thanks!

We did it chat, we saved what's left of the world order!

@rarescevei8268

7 ай бұрын

I hope there'll be a world left.

@gameingboy9541

7 ай бұрын

End the world

Missed opportunity to let the Netherlands keep indonesia and then annex Malaya and the Phillippines as well (yes this was seriously an outcome possible by the poll).

@Bacony_Cakes

7 ай бұрын

i tried to get us a hilariously funny border in northern japan (give japan the small islands and the russian island but give russia hokkiado)

@gameingboy9541

7 ай бұрын

​@@Bacony_Cakessame

@Bacony_Cakes

7 ай бұрын

@@gameingboy9541 i also tried for hilariously pathetic prussia (there are only two prussian states, one is memel, and the other one is seperated from memel by huge poland)

@VonGinger

7 ай бұрын

@@Bacony_Cakes I Gave Britain Eritrea and Somalia, but let italy keep ethiopia

Honestly I don't think we did too badly with this one, with the exception of the Soviets being rather unhappy, which may lead to more conflict in the future

@wires-sl7gs

7 ай бұрын

And that they balkanized India, meaning China will likely be the sole future Superpower of Asia sooner or later and will be able to divide and conquer India Diplomatically, and the same with Indonesia. But yeah, aside from that and being stupid about the Soviets, not too bad. Would of been more interesting if Poland and Czechoslovakia were Soviet Puppets, as well as the Baltic annexed by the Soviets, but oh well.

@Andrej-tt1yi

7 ай бұрын

No this is absolutly terrible. Italy and germany are carved up. Soviet discontend starts ww3 and possibly a nuclear war. India is balkanized making sure that china is the sole superpower in asia , indochina is probably breaking up with a civil war. mongolian chinese and manchu conflict are bound to happen.

@matthiuskoenig3378

7 ай бұрын

It's 100% going to lead to conflict, I predict 1945/46

@rarescevei8268

7 ай бұрын

This is a horrible peace that will lead to instability in Asia, leave China as the dominant asian power, and will lead to irreparable damage from the 3rd world war.

@aslakskamsaraasen9407

7 ай бұрын

also remember the us has nukes the ussr don't atlest not yet so stalins hands are tied

Me: "Surely after the last two scenarios, people have learned their lesson and became sensible." Me: Sees the thumbnail....

As a german, having Germany, dissolved once again pains me, after hundreds of years we are finally united and 70 years later everything is gone again. Tho realistically after 70 years of unification the people would probably want to reform Germany.

@michaeljancuch4204

7 ай бұрын

As an Austrian, getting to puppet german states is the best timeline

@emsproviero

7 ай бұрын

as a bavarian independence is the best timeline

@edelweiss7928

7 ай бұрын

@@michaeljancuch4204 nah, Hitler brought you the best timeline in 1938 already 😎

@edelweiss7928

7 ай бұрын

@@emsproviero 🤓

@Kioley123

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, but here's the age old question, under the Austrian habsburgs or the prussians (again).

Where’s the continuation? It’s not out yet

@MrToymaster1

7 ай бұрын

Maybe they meant the 21st

@lronhayden

7 ай бұрын

@@MrToymaster1 that makes sense

@wikiacount8697

7 ай бұрын

@@lronhayden he said this saturday in the video maybe he postponed it

RIP the kids that would then have to name all nations, flags, regimes and capitals of those new nations. Very nice video, really enjoyed voting in the votes ☺

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

Assuming these nations last up to 2023 (and that's a huge ask), we'd have had 78 years to get used to this.

Holy moly Italian and German nationalism is gonna have a fieldday after this peacedeal.

Woah your editing skills have improved a lot dude, congrats

Can you have us vote for the peace treaty of WW3, which will inevitably happen immediately in this scenario? Thanks

I love these videos were you ask you’re viewers to choose the borders of Europe and we see how they play out.

Did he mean NEXT Saturday?

@wikiacount8697

7 ай бұрын

he said this saturday in the video maybe he postponed it

Possible History: Ok, viewers, let's vote on redrawing the borders of the Axis powers after WWII in order to ensure peace. Viewers: (vote to unilaterally invade Spain)

@sprintfoxy1240

7 ай бұрын

rare viewer W

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

"We did it, Patrick! We saved Spain!"

Considering all the post viewer map predictions where very good so far and that ww1 is one of my favourite historical periods, i definitelly did the survey. Though do be warned, I tried to make the scenario as dificult and incomprehensible as posible (And even so im sure it will make for great content, love your vids by the way)

@ActualGoatUnicorn

7 ай бұрын

I also went for that, just complete border gore and shattered states

@shinycosmic2043

7 ай бұрын

same, independence for all😈

@irmaosmatos4026

7 ай бұрын

I went for the crazy stuff

@IceFlower22

7 ай бұрын

omg same. chaos mode engaged >:)

i just tried to make yugoslavia as absolutely gigantic as possible.

@plasmakitten4261

7 ай бұрын

HAIL MARSHAL TITO GREATEST LEADER IN THE WORLD

if this really happened, history lesson would get A LOT harder, but i think more people would study.

I feel like I should hate the viewers. But at the same time this was funny, so I forgive everyone, including myself.

"Peace in our time" - You, probably

This the first one i’ve taken part in _Let’s see how much chaos we have unleashed…_

the war to end all wars they said. now we start to understand why the world wars are a franchise.

I love these types of videos from you. Keep at 'em!

very good as always, may i suggest for the next one (or at least the one after next, as i see the poll is already out) you use a voting system other than plurality

its gonna be fun to see the soviets go on a rampage in eastern europe during the cold war video

For some reason I love the delivery of the lines at 5:23 .

The best way to settle the borders after WW2 would be to: 1) Give all of Africa, the Balkans, and all the territories of the late Ottoman empire to Italy; 2) Give all of central, northern and eastern Europe, along with the entirety of Russia, to Germany; 3) Give all of Asia (except Russia) to Japan; 4) Unify Ireland; 5) Give the entire anerican continent, both north and south to Spain; 6) Transform Britain, Australia and New Zealand into parking lots. This in my opinion would have ensured peace, prosperity an justice to the world.

As an Indonesian myself I personally hated how the viewers chose the fate of my beloved home country

@cpt.john_price

7 ай бұрын

Indonesian balkanization is one thing, but that greater malaysia tho 😭

@oliverreinisch704

7 ай бұрын

On behalf of everyone who voted to balkanize Indonesia. My bad bro

@BrandonBDN

7 ай бұрын

At least you got independence

@starlightbutthealt8991

7 ай бұрын

I honestly do not forsee the Borneo states surviving for very long, Malaysia will most likely annex them.

@sifangwuhai

7 ай бұрын

hiduplah melayu raya😊

I love the fact that every option I choose became reality

@dougfowler1368

7 ай бұрын

I came pretty close, too. Only problem would be occupation zones, but maybe Stalin gets to play with Prussia.

@pouletvert8707

7 ай бұрын

You have absolutely no taste

@cod_portuga3980

7 ай бұрын

@@pouletvert8707 Why is that?

@lronhayden

7 ай бұрын

@@pouletvert8707🤓🤓🤓

@Xcrindelle

7 ай бұрын

​@@lronhaydencringe

most realistic HOI4 peace deal

Guys would it be funny if we balkanized the map as much as possible

Bro where next video

Lesson Learned,Possible History Viewers Hate Russia Even If The Russians Had Good Intentions

Yugoslav wars are gonna be fun in this timeline.

Amazing can't wait for more!

Surely the conflict between Poles and Soviets would be inevitable with such borders, but I doubt it will end in WW3. Stalin would pressure for extra consetion but if he will see collective disapproval from the West I think Moscow will take step back to not provoke another war - IRL that was the case with Iran and Turkey. Main question is, will the Cold War even happen? The Red meanece is less present, Europe isn't divided in half and Soviet Union have less geopolitical advantages to successfuly pressure their ideology on others

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

...yet. The fate of China is still up in the air and I bet Stalin will want a pro-Soviet government to win it just to spite the west.

That division of Istria made no sense. You gave the majority italian areas to Yugoslavia and the majority slovene areas to italy. I think you, Possible history, got it wrong in the drawing of the map, because you say "southern part will remain in italy" but instead do the opposite to the map.

Greece is such a satisfying shape

Will you repeat this with history youtubers? I loved your Congress of Vienna, might as well do a Potsdam too.

I really wanted to give all of the region of Prussia to Poland but that wasn't an option.

i am so glad to have been one of the people at this peace conference

I love how this completely guarantees a ww3

@Onelifegaming096

7 ай бұрын

West is definetly wining

@sprintfoxy1240

7 ай бұрын

@@Onelifegaming096 Wouldn't be so sure

@hiplsnols4394

7 ай бұрын

@@sprintfoxy1240i would

@sprintfoxy1240

7 ай бұрын

@@hiplsnols4394 i wouldn't

@Azerrr

7 ай бұрын

​@@Onelifegaming096Boom-boom, and no winners

One video concept I think you could explore is an "alternate end" peace deal. Like maybe one where Napolean wins instead of loses, Central Powers win ww1 etc. Could be funny.

Hey i have a question. What happened to the Alternate History Guild youtube channel? Love your vids btw ❤

As a Pole, I see this as a neutral ending.

The communists can’t win the civil war if they don’t have Manchuria so the fate of Taiwan is moot. Also does Finland get their northern territories back?

20 million Soviets died for Hungary and Romania.

Aaand this is why the internet doesn't get to make foreign policy decisions for governments

Not even 10 seconds in, and I already know we've started WW3, I'll report back when I finish watching. Dear god I was right

Here before the premiere, judging by the thumbnail, my predictions about a greater Prussian kaiserreich were absolutely right Edit: My predictions were absolutely right

@ericanthonyty3729

7 ай бұрын

I'm here before the premiere too!

@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500

7 ай бұрын

@@ericanthonyty3729 no

@KFP_Prophet

7 ай бұрын

Mr Socialistrepublicofvietnam, congratulations on your pan-indochina state.

Where do I find these polls??? I've not seen anything in my feed!

The big problem with India was the lack of polling options. There are many intermediate steps between a two state solution and full Balkanization. Anyone who wanted an independent Punjab or Sikkim or Kashmir or Bengal or Tamil Nadu or Dravidia would have no choice but to vote for full Balkanization.

I'm surprised the final map is literally 80% of what i voted

Crazy how the viewers peace deal is better for Germany than the real one

@avus-kw2f213

7 ай бұрын

What did you expect

this was great to vote for. i just voted for the most chaotic souloutions where comusism is everything

Divides the Raj along ethnolinguistic lines. Creates Burma with modern borders. XD

@EliteWood1337

7 ай бұрын

Yes, because the Burmese government will definetly respect and tolerate all ethnicties, religions, and languages within their borders, and not commit genocide!! 🥰

@gengarzilla1685

7 ай бұрын

Balkan Raj on one end and United Indochina on the other is just pure insanity.

Truly one of the peace conferences of all time...

still better than post ww2 hoi4 peace deals

@hiplsnols4394

7 ай бұрын

less communism and a decent amount if balance in the world

Can you make future polls more colourblind freindly? It was really confusing to fill out.

I find it particularly fascinating the monarchies return and with them the Hohenzollern dynasty. For a few years until they boot him out, King Micheal of Romania is also still of that Dynasty, maybe in this timeline he can exile in Germany instead of Switzerland, maybe the monarchy in Romania even stays or comes back? It was actually incredibly popular at the time and after the fall of communism, so much so that the post Romanian Revolution leaders barred Micheal from coming back out of fear everyone would want him back.

The Russophobia is soo real in the west

Por lo más sagrado, nunca dejes que tus seguidores vuelvan a elegir las fronteras del mundo

3:05 "Until now, we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes. Now we shall say, the heroes fight like Greeks." (This was an awesome video, but we aren't cry babies.

Im glad Czechoslovakia isnt communist this timeline

@Honza58

7 ай бұрын

True... even though I tried to vote for larger Czechoslovakia with Silesia included (even though I sacrificied Slovakia to the communists...)

@GreenTheori

7 ай бұрын

@@Honza58 ...

@GreenTheori

7 ай бұрын

@@Honza58 you seriously replaced slovakia with silesia

@oliverreinisch704

7 ай бұрын

@@Honza58 Trying to replace Czechoslovakia with Czechosilesia is cursed and based af

@Honza58

7 ай бұрын

I would name it... Lands of the Bohemian Crown. I mean... sure it's cursed... but is it really worse than what happened in the video? :D

We the people of the youtube comment section truly are the best diplomats and peacekeepers of all time

"Bulgaria will lose a little bit of their south, but they will get a little bit of land in the north! Oh and i forgot, bulgaria doesnt exist"

You should do viewer decided alternate history peace deals as well

I like most of the partition of Europe but I’ll give their claimed land on Poland to the soviets and give them influence in the country, I’ll also let the soviets get the baltic states but with some “extra autonomy” and I’ll make Finland neutral but the USSR gets their calmed there creating a Karelian SSR I’ll balcanize the raj but leave Indonesia get independence, and give independence to Laos Cambodia and Vietnam. I’ll make Malaysia get independence and I’ll give them the Malay people lands at Sumatra. I’ll give the Philippines independence too and I will make Australia give some more autonomy to Papua New Guinea I’ll make Corea an independent Pro US state and I’ll give Sakhalin and Manchuria to Russia creating Manchu SSR. I’ll make a NEUTRAL Japan and I’ll give Taiwan to Democratic China Poland gets Silesia and the Czechs get that part of the Sudetenland, Danemark gets Schwelvig(Sorry for my spelling) and the Dutch get East Frisia, Luxembourg get their claims and Alsace and Lorraine are given to France. I’ll divide Germany in 4: In Baden-Wüttemberg, Bavaria and Austria and the Sudetenland I’ll create the Danube Confederation, I’ll split the rest of Germany as it happened in reality but I’ll make a UN demilitarized zone in Berlin